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A43724 A continuation of The dialogue between a Christian and a Quaker wherein the truth of those things objected against them in the first part, are fully confirm'd : together with a further account of their perilous and pernitious errors concerning the person of Christ, His satisfaction, justification, sanctification, the ministry, and immediate motions are in this second part, cleerly and plainly represented out of the writings of some of their principal, and most approved leaders / published for the common information of such as either really are, or may be, in danger of being insnared and intangled by them by Thomas Hicks. Hicks, Thomas, 17th cent. 1673 (1673) Wing H1919; ESTC R21822 53,818 100

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that_o righteousness_n be_v which_o be_v reckon_v or_o account_v to_o we_o for_o our_o justification_n quak._n be_v thou_o of_o they_o that_o imagine_v a_o justification_n without_o sanctification_n who_o because_o the_o scripture_n faith_n god_n justify_v the_o ungodly_a through_o faith_n they_o therefore_o conclude_v themselves_o justify_v in_o their_o ungodliness_n by_o a_o fancy_n which_o they_o call_v faith_n naylors_n love_n to_o the_o lose_a 50_o 51._o i_o far_o tell_v thou_o that_o justification_n by_o a_o impute_a righteousness_n be_v both_o irrational_a irreligious_a ridiculous_a and_o dangerous_a pen._n sand._n fo._n p._n 30_o 31._o chr._n i_o know_v of_o none_o that_o hold_v justification_n of_o person_n in_o their_o ungodliness_n this_o therefore_o be_v a_o wicked_a slander_n and_o not_o at_o all_o to_o the_o question_n we_o plead_v not_o for_o a_o righteousness_n impute_v to_o overthrow_v a_o righteousness_n inherent_a or_o the_o exercise_n of_o christian_a virtue_n it_o be_v you_o will_v separate_v and_o divide_v they_o not_o we_o the_o question_n intend_v this_o whether_o the_o person_n justify_v be_v not_o at_o that_o instant_n before_o he_o be_v justify_v guilty_a in_o himself_o quak._n justification_n go_v not_o before_o but_o be_v consequential_a to_o the_o mortify_n of_o lust_n and_o the_o sanctification_n of_o the_o soul_n again_o impute_v or_o impute_v signify_v no_o more_o in_o scripture_n but_o to_o express_v man_n real_o and_o personal_o to_o be_v what_o be_v impute_v to_o they_o pen._n sand._n fo._n p._n 27_o 29_o 30._o chr._n do_v not_o this_o import_n that_o a_o man_n must_v be_v formal_o just_a before_o he_o be_v justify_v for_o nothing_o be_v impute_v or_o reckon_v to_o we_o according_a to_o your_o reason_n but_o what_o be_v inherent_a in_o we_o i_o will_v ask_v you_o whether_o remission_n of_o sin_n be_v not_o one_o part_n of_o justification_n quak._n i_o suppose_v it_o may_v chr._n can_v one_o be_v forgive_v that_o be_v not_o 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