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p._n 2._o strict_a loquendo_fw-la non_fw-la 〈◊〉_d meritum_fw-la condigni_fw-la inter_fw-la nos_fw-la &_o deum_fw-la if_o a_o man_n will_v speak_v proper_o and_o strict_o there_o be_v no_o merit_n of_o condignity_n between_o god_n and_o us._n baltassar_n navaret_fw-la sup_v 1._o par_fw-fr thom._n q._n 21._o be_v 1._o ca._n 28._o pa._n 603._o god_n be_v say_v to_o be_v a_o debtor_n to_o man_n by_o a_o certain_a hyperbole_n genebrard_n sup_v psal._n 19_o v_o 13._o opera_fw-la sunt_fw-la long_o infra_fw-la retributiones_fw-la good_a work_n be_v far_o inferior_a to_o the_o reward_n and_o whereas_o some_o pontifician_n say_v same_o that_o god_n be_v unjust_a if_o he_o do_v not_o condign_o reward_v good_a work_n durand_n etc._n affirm_v that_o this_o speech_n be_v blasphemous_a they_o be_v miserable_o divide_v and_o distract_v about_o their_o doctrine_n of_o merit_n of_o condignity_n like_o the_o builder_n of_o the_o tower_n of_o babel_n first_o some_o of_o they_o simple_o and_o absolute_o 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