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A79520 An answer to a book which Samuel Eaton put up to the Parliament: which he saith he is a teacher of the Church of Christ, heretofore meeting at Ducken-field, now at Stockport in Cheshire; and he cals the title of his book Quakers confuted. Moses who was a judg quaked and trembled, David a king in Israel quaked and trembled, and Solomon who was a king trembled, and Daniel a servant of the most high God trembled, ... And these heard the voice of God, and thou that writest, thou mayest say thou hast confuted all them; for he that is against them, is against us, and he that is against us, is against them, for the same power is witnessed; but thou Eaton, who saith thou art a teacher of the church at Duckenfield, who saith thou hast heard the voice of the living God, and that such a voice as this, as comes immediately from God, you have not heard, ... And Isaiah saith, hear the word of the Lord all ye that tremble at his word; and this is the man that I do regard, saith the Lord, that is of a contrite heart, and trembleth at my word; but such Eaton and his church doth not regard, but custs out friends of the Lord from them, whom the world calls Quakers. Camm, John, 1604?-1656. 1654 (1654) Wing C389; Thomason E735_9; ESTC R206969 38,921 53

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Scripture Quer. 18. Whether you do not bewitch the people and draw them from the Spirit of God within you to observe those things which God never commanded to tell the people of a Sacrament and following your outward teaching who stands praying in the Synagogues and art called of men Master which Christ did forbid Mat. 23. And have the chiefest places in the Assemblies Whether these be not Antichrists which act contrary to the Commands of Christ yea or no. Ans In thy Answer to this Query thou sayest They strike at Pastors and Elders Reply Here thou art a lyar for the Query doth not mention Pastors or Elders Obj. And why dost thou say they speak of the Synagogues in a derisive way and that the title of Masters and assuming the chiefest places in the Assemblies to be ambition Reply And this thou seeks to clear and justifie which Christ cried wo against and shews thy self to be in the state of the Scribes and Pharisees as you may read Mat. 23. Let the letter judge thee if thou wilt own the Scripture And doth not Christ cry wo against them that are called of men Master and have the chiefest place in the Assemblies stand praying in the Synagogues H●re ●hou shews thy self to be an opposer of Christs words who would justifie the worlds practise which he cryed wo against and so thou art a friend to the world and an enemy to Christ Obj. And thou sayest concerning the Sacrament ther is no Ordinance a foot amongst us which we call by that name though there might be a defence for it Reply Here thou shews thy self where thou was b●fore in making a defence for that which is not which ●here is no Scripture for And what hast thou to do to talk of O●dinances the Blood of Christ and the Seals and the Faith and the Covenant of God who denyes his voyce and all who are taught of God hear his voyce and who are sealed are sealed with the Spirit but thou denyes the immediate inspiration and here thou clearest thy self from the Seals from the Covenant who saith men must be taught for all who are brought into the Covenant are taught of God and hear his voyce and need no man teach them which you deny Oh Lucifer like who talks of these things and cannot witness any of them but ar● justifying Synagogues standing p●aying there which the Pharisees did O thou Fox thou are found out in all thy holes we who witness the B●ood of Christ the Covenant the Seals and the Supper of the Lord deny all these things which you and the Pharisees held up which Christ cried wo against and here thou art reckoned and found amongst those despisers of the grace of God which never heard ●●s voyce as thou sayest amongst the greatest sinners whichever blasphemed Christ though they pro●ess●d him in words ●o dost thou the world may justifi● th●●e but that Christ which the Scripture speaks of if you w●ll own the Scriptures do●h condemn thee who holds up and pleads for these things which he cries wo against Obj. Secondly And for thy justification of outward teaching thou sayest it is the power of God to salvation Reply Here I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to be a lyar and knows not what thou speaks is the power of God outward and salvation which is a Mystery and here thou hast shut thy self out from the Mystery and art in thy will and a Minister made by the will of man which is outward Paul who was a Minister of the Spirit which was not outward made by the will of God here thou hast shut thy self from the Minister of the Spirit which ministers to the Spirit in prison and art a Minister of the Letter made by the will of man and holden up by man and thou wrests many Scriptures for to justifie the outward teaching as Mat. 4.13 14. Acts 26.16 17 18. and many other Scriptures and so pu●s no difference betwixt the Ministers of the world which is outward and Christs Ministers and the Apostles which is immediate and inward by the Spirit and shews thou art not yet come to repentance to discern the right hand from the left He that hath ears to hear let him hear what the Spirit saith and that 's not outward And what hast thou to do to talk of the Apostles preaching Let the Apostles preaching alone for they denyed the Pharisees teaching I command thee in the presence of the Lord. Obj. And thou sayst the Apostle saith He rejoyced though some preach Christ from an envious spirit Reply Here thou adds to the Apostles words all people read Psal 1.18 though the Apostle did say then Some preach Christ of envy some of strife some of contention yet that was a time when few did believe that that was the Christ so his Name was spread abroad he rejoyced in it but when his Name was spread abroad and covetous men and proud men as thou art and heady men and men that followed pleasures had got the form but had not the power which led silly women captive always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth which thou shews thy self to be one of them and the Apostle exhorts from such to turn away 2 Tim. 3.1 And what hast thou to do to talk of Christ and his Disciples and Moses these had the immediate inspiration which thou denyes who hast gotten the outward form and words of Christ and the Disciples as the Pharisees had gotten the form of Moses and the Prophets and there thou art j●dged withall who hath the Eternal Spirit the life of them that gave forth the Scriptures Obj. Whereof thou art giving sences of the end of the world Reply Silence sence and consequence for that proceeds from the world in thy heart for there it is set for thou confesses thou dost not know the voyce of God who art lost in thy sences nor never shall in that nature who denyes immediate in●piration and so denyes the life of the Scripture and shuts thy self out For Christ is the same yesterday to day and for ever And his teachers are the same with the same Spirit and all thy whole intent is as to keep people from the voyce of G●d and immediate inspiration and to keep the Letter and to make Ministers with it which is outward as thou calls it Obj. And whereas thou sayest Christ ascend●d on high and hath given gifts unto men Reply These words will condemn thee are these gifts outward thou art talking of an outward these words Pastors and Teachers are the Saints words and ours we own th●m but we deny thee and all thy filthy stuff of consequences and sences of the Saints conditions Obj. And whereas thou sayest Till the Saints come to the state of perfection Reply And again thou denyes it and saith None can attain to it in this world and here the Scripture will judge thee to be a lyar which thou sayest is thy