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A76078 The Church of England a true church: proved in a disputation held by John Bastwick Doctor in Physick, against Mr. Walter Montague in the Tower. Published by authority. Bastwick, John, 1593-1654. 1645 (1645) Wing B1058; Thomason E297_18; ESTC R200205 156,945 174

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THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND A true Church PROVED In a Disputation held by JOHN BASTWICK Doctor in Physick AGAINST Mr. WALTER MONTAGUE in the TOWER Buy the truth and sell it not also wisdom instruction and understanding Prov. 23. v. 23. Where there is no vision the people perish but he that keepeth the Law happy is he Prov. 29. v. 16. Published by Authority LONDON Printed for A. Crooke and I. Rothwell and are to be sold at their shops in Pauls Church-yard 1645. To the Reader Christian Reader IF thou desire to know the occasion of the ensuing discourse betweene mee and Master Montague of whom I may say this although he be an enemy that hee is both generosus doctus adversarius thou shalt not onely be fully satisfied of the necessity of the publishing of it but mayst also finde the true Church by the essentiall and undeceivable notes of the same the which wheresoever they appeare doe abundantly prove and delucidate it to be a true Church Now when they are to be found in the Church of England as in all the reformed Churches it may truely be concluded of them all that they are true Churches from the which there is no just ground and cause of separation As for the Church of England I may ever affirme this as I have in the following Treatise evinced that since the Apostles times the Gospell and the saving truths thereof have never been more purely preached and more chearfully received imbraced and believed and the Sacraments more duely administred and the Name of God more truly invocated and called upon then now in the Church of England that all those that live in it owe their conversion to the Ministery of the same so that with all good reason wee may infer that that Church that teacheth the knowledge of the onely true God and whom hee hath sent Jesus Christ John 17. and is able to build them up in their most holy faith is a true Church and where salvation may be found And therefore not onely those of the Church of Rome that do calumniate her and all the reformed Churches for hereticall are in a great errour and blame-worthy but more especially those that had the worke of regeneration wrought in their hearts by her ministery and owe their conversion to her and yet doe asperse her with odious tearmes absolutely denying her to be a true Church all such I say are likewise to be reproved and have for this their temerity a great deale to answer for before God and all good men for by these their expressions they doe not onely proclaime their owne unthankefulnesse unto Almighty God but their undutifulnesse and ingratitude unto their mother and their uncharitablenesse towards their brethren whom they account of as a company of Insidels denying communion with them in holy things though every way as good and as holy as themselves by all which their proceedings they doe not onely cast filth in all their faces and expose themselves to the ludibree of the world and bring an odium upon the whole Church but are a cause of division and schisme in the seamlesse garment of Christ and give a great scandall to the enemies of the Gospell and to all such as love the truth in sincerity without faction contrary to the Apostles rule who exhorts all Christians to take heed that they give no offence to the Jew nor to the Gentile nor to the Church of God But that all men may see I charge none falsly nor wrong them not in any thing I shall here recite some expressions of their principall leaders and teachers for to enumerate them all would be an endlesse worke as I had them from their owne mouthes in the presence of others and as I finde them in their printed bookes By word of mouth they say That the Church of England is an arrant Whore and Strumpet and that she that was once a Whore can never be presented unto Christ as a chaste Spouse then the which what could be more contumeliosly disgracefully and untruly spoken especially when it is uttered by such as had the worke of grace and conversion wrought in their hearts by the ministery of the Church if they have any grace or were ever truely converted though now they have disobediently deserted and forsaken her In print thus they declare themselves concerning the Church of England and all believers and their fellow brethren in it That the Church of England is a true whorish mother and that they that are of her are base begotten and bastardly children and that she neither is nor never was truely married joyned or united unto Jesus Christ in that espousall band which his true Churches are and ought to be but is one of Antichrists Nationall whorish Churches and Cities spoken of Revel 16.19 c. That the Church of England is false and Antichristian and as shee is a false and Antichristian Church shee can never make true Officers and Ministers of Jesus Christ and absolutely deny that conversion and confirmation and building up in the waies of God are wrought by the Ministery of the Church of England for how say they can they build them up in that which they themselves are ignorant of and enemies unto For as Jannes and Jambres with stood Moses so doe these men also resist the truth being men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth c. This is their Dialect and further they assert That as they have taken paines by the Word of God and demonstrable arguments grounded thereupon to prove the Church of England Antichristian so they promise to all the world that they will in the strength of the Lord of Hosts for ever seperate from Cuurch Ministery and worship of England and all and every one of them as Antichristian and false And conclude that all the Ministers of the Church of England are not true Ministers of Christ but false and Antichristian Ministers and that our Religion neither is the true Religion nor that it leads men the true way to salvation and they affirme that they groundedly and absolutely deny that either the Church of England is or ever was a true Church And from many such premises as these they exhort all good people that are in the bosome of the Church of England as they love their owne inward peace and spirituall joy to withdraw their spirituall obedience and subjection from her Others of them esteem no better of their brethren then of Insidels Vnbelievers and Heathens and proclaime them in their writings published by authority to be men who deny disclaime and preach against Christs Kingly government over his Churches men unconverted or at least converted but in part wanting the maine thing to wit Christs Kingly Office men visibly out of the Covenant of grace who have not so much as an outward profession of faith who deny Christ to be their King to whose persons and infants the very Sacraments and Seales of grace with all Church-communion may and
God nor bring forth any acceptable fruit Joh. the 15. vers 5. Without me saith Christ yee can do nothing For the wisdome of the flesh saith the Apostle or the minding of the flesh Rom. 8. vers 6. is enmity against God for it is not subiect unto the Law of God neither indeede can be The Apostle says not only that the wisdome of the flesh is not subject unto the Law of God but that it cannot be And in the first of the Cor. chap. the second the Apostle saith the naturall man receives not the things of the Spirit of God for they are foolishnesse to him neither can hee know them because they are spiritually discerned Now if the unregenerate man in his sensuall and naturall condition cannot know and so much as discerne the things of the Spirit the things of God how much lesse can he do the things that God commands Therefore before Regeneration hee is dead in sinnes and trespasses following the desires of the flesh and of the mind and is by nature the child of wrath Ephes 2. vers 1.2.3 and this is the condition of all men before Regeneration Now if they be dead in sinnes and trespasses and follow the lusts of the flesh there is no life in them to that which is good before they be raised from the grave of sin which will never be before they forsake their own wayes and their own thoughts and deny themselves This is a knowne truth ratified by the Apostle Heb. 11. vers 6. and confirmed by the Testimony of all orthodox Writers that without faith it is impossible to please God Now all men in their naturall condition are without faith they are without Christ being Aliens from the Common-Wealth of Israel and strangers from the Covenant of promise having no hope and without God in the World Ephes 2. vers 12. and therefore in a sad deplorable and desperate condition so long as they continue and abide in their corrupt nature and are not sanctifyed by grace for without faith they cannot please God or do any good workes for whatsoever is not of faith is sinne Rom. 14. vers 23. And this is the naturall condition of all mankind before the Law and under the Law and under the Gospell as by all these and innumerable more witnesses might be evinced And therefore all naturall men must deny themselves and renounce all if they will be Christs Disciples Yea the very regenerate must learne this Lesson of selfe-deniall and renounce all their owne merits and all their owne workes or they cannot be Christs Disciples The Saints of old knew that Lesson very well and therefore they never boasted of their own righteousnesse or of their own merits or good works that was Pharisaicall who trusted in themselves that they were righteous and despised others as Christ speakes of them Luke the 17. vers 9. 11.12 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himselfe God I thanke thee that I am not as other men are Extortioners Vniust Adulterers or even as this Publican I fast twice in the weeke and give Tithes of all that I possesse They were also frequent in Almes-deeds so that if workes either of the ceremoniall judiciall and morall Law could have justifyed any or brought them to Heaven the Pharisees might as well by their merits have challenged Heaven as any justiciaries in this Age who come far short of their righteousnesse And yet our Saviour Christ saith of them Mat. the 5. vers 20. Except your righteousnesse exceede the righteousnesse of the Scribes and Pharisees yee shall in no case enter into the Kingdome of Heaven I say therefore the Saints and Servants of God in all ages were so farre from presuming of their own merits or challenging of Heaven by their good workes that wee finde them all by their own testimonies and witnesse disclayming them and powring out their prayers and supplications for pardon of sin and removall of judgements deserved by them and all of them condemning and accusing themselves for sinfull men even after I say their regeneration And if any by their good workes or by their owne merits might have challenged favour from God or acceptance from him then Moses or Job or Noah or Samuel or Daniel or Abraham or David or some of all the glorious and holy Prophets or some of the blessed Apostles might have done it better than any Justiciary of this age concerning many of the which God himselfe giveth an honorable testimony and yet we finde the whole Scripture full of their complaints that they have made against themselves for their iniquities transgressions and sinnes and ever desiring pardon and craving mercy for themselves and for their people and never vanting of their owne merits But let us take notice what God speakes of some of them and how honourably Jer. 15. vers 1. Thus saith the Lord though Moses and Samuel stood before me yet my mind could not be towards this people cast them out of my sight And in Ezekiel the 14. vers 20. Though Noah Daniel and Job were in it as I live saith the Lord God they shall deliver neither sonne nor daughter they shall deliver but their owne soules by their righteousnesse These were men all of them in high favour with God who giveth them here a glorious testimony as in many other places in holy Scripture of righteousnesse as in Numb the 12. and Heb. the 3. he commends Moses for his faithfulnesse in his house and of Job hee saith Job 1. vers 8. Hast thou considered my servant Job that there is none like him in the Earth a perfect and an upright man one that feareth God and escheweth evill and Ezekiel the 28 vers 3. he commends Daniel for his wisdom and in the first of the Kings the 13. vers 14. of David he saith that hee was a man according to his own heart And yet if we looke upon all these men we shall finde them confessing and bewayling their owne sinnes and the sinnes of the people and never presuming of their owne righteousnesse nor vanting of their owne merits but ever denying themselves as in the 90 Psal vers 8. Moses there sayes thou hast set our iniquities before thee our secret sinnes in the sight of thy Countnance and vers 13. returne O Lord how long Here we finde confession of sinne and deprecation of judgement even in Moses Daniel also confesseth his sinnes and the sinnes of the people and deprecates Gods judgements Daniel the 9. vers 20. and David in the 19 Psal ver 13. saith Who can understand his errors Cleanse me from my secret sinnes So that it is evident that besides the sinnes the Saints know of themselves there are many they take no notice of and therefore ought with David ever to make this prayer Cleanse me from my secret sinnes so that there can never be matter of merit where there are secret sinnes And Job 9. ver 20. If I justifie my selfe saith he my owne mouth shall
more instances Mr. Montague might be produced where Christ the King of his Church commandeth and the Pope prohibits and where Christ prohibits and forbids and the Pope commands the contrary and where the Church of Rome in all things obeyes the Pope and disobeyes Christ by all which it may now easily appeare whether of the two Churches the Church of England or the Church of Rome is more orthodox in their doctrine and whether of them gives most honour to Christ But let me intreat you Master Montague ingenuously to answer me whether that Church that doth all that her Lord and King commandeth her and declineth all hee forbids her and gives her King all that due reverence and dignity that belongeth unto him doth not honour Christ more than that Church that regardeth neither his commands nor prohibitions but neglecteth them both and trampleth all his Lawes under her contaminated feet I am most confident Mr. Montague that upon your mature deliberation you will grant unto the Church of England that preeminency that she is more obedient to Christ her King and more honours his Kingly Office than the Church of Rome and that Christ is King unto the Church of Rome in word onely but in workes and deeds they neither regard either what he commands or what he forbids But now I come to the Priestly Office of Christ concerning which Mr. Montague I shall desire you seriously to weigh and examine the faith and beliefe of each Church concerning that and which of them believeth most orthodoxly and honoureth Christs Priestly Office most whether the Church of Rome or the Church of England Upon triall I believe it will appeare in this point also that the Church of Rome maketh the Priesthood of Christ a matter of nothing howsoever in words they acknowledge it The Church of England believeth that Christ Jesus was appointed and sealed by God himselfe to be the alone and onely mediator between God and man and that he onely has compleated and in all things fulfilled the whole Law of God and satisfied his justice and wrath by paying the ransome due for our transgressions when he offered himselfe a sacrifice propitiatory upon the crosse for our sins She believeth also that Christ alone doth now make request for us with God in whose Name all the faithful with confidence and boldnesse have continually accesse unto the Throne of grace with full assurance to be heard She believeth likewise that Christ alone is Mediator both of redemption and intercession and that we are not to put up our petitions and supplications either to Saints or Angels as being a thing derogatory to the dignity and glory of our Mediator the Lord Jesus Christ and a meere robbing him of his due honour She believeth in like manner that Christ is the onely Priest of the new Testament and that there are no other reall Priests on earth appointed by God to offer up Christ daily to God the Father a propitiatory Sacrifice for the living and for the dead and that it is blasphemy against the eternall Priesthood of Christ so to affirme She believeth also that the Sacrifice of Christ being of an infinite vertue and efficacy is to be applied to all believers by such meanes onely as God himselfe hath appointed as by the vertue and power of the holy Ghost and faith by the preaching of the Gospell and the right administration of the holy Sacraments and Prayer and that this Sacrifice offered upon the crosse was most perfect and absolute and ought not to be reiterated and renewed by any man upon the earth and that the reiteration of it is both derogatory to the al-sufficiency of the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ and pernicious to the soules of men and indeed a meere blasphemy She believeth further that we being cloathed with the righteousnesse of Jesus Christ our high Priest and Mediator and appearing before God in it that we are freed by vertue of that both from the guilt and punishment of all our sinnes and are accounted righteous before God She believeth also that the blood of Jesus Christ and that onely purgeth us from all our sinnes and that there is no other Purgatory by which the soules of men are purified and cleansed from their impurities and pollutions and that there is no man living that can either by doing or suffering satisfie the justice of God much lesse merit or doe workes of supererogation and that the preachers of the Gospell have onely power delegative ministeriall and conditionall to forgive sinnes as Ambassadours and not as absolute Judges and that this Office is peculiar to God and Christ alone as our high Priest and Mediator of the everlasting covenant And this is the faith of the Church of England concerning Christs Priestly Office The beliefe of the Church of Rome is this that Christ is the Mediator of satisfaction and redemption but they assigne the other part of his mediation and intercession to Saints and Angels and the prime place of that imployment they give unto the blessed Virgin who they call the Queen of Heaven and the doore of Paradise and they put up their prayers and requests to her and other Saints and Angels hoping to be heard which is nothing else but to allow Christ a momentany or temporary and partiall mediation and to give unto the Saints and Angels that everlasting and never dying intercession then the which there cannot be a greater contumely and indignity offered to the eternall Priest our Mediator Jesus Christ it taking away so great a portion of honour from him and to speake in plaine English it is an unsufferable blasphemy The Church of Rome appointeth other Priests also after the order of Melchisedech to offer up Christ himselfe daily as they say to God the father a propitiatory Sacrifice for the living and the dead which is nothing else but blasphemously to insimulate and accuse Christs Sacrifice of imperfection The Church of Rome also asserteth and believeth that the righteousnesse of Christ our Mediator is not imputed unto us and affirmes that by Christs merits and passion we are onely freed from the guilt of our sinnes but not from the punishment of them that we our selves must satisfie the punishment She believeth also that we are able in this life if we will our selves not onely to satisfie the justice of God and keepe the Law but also to merit and doe workes of supererogation She farther believeth that if any man depart out of this life before he hath fully satisfied God for his sinnes that then he is to remaine in a place called Purgatory there to be tormented and purged from all his pollutions and defilements that there is no entrance into Heaven or redemption out of that place without an especiall indulgence from the Pope or innumerable Prayers and Masses for their soules before they by torment are cleansed from the remainder of all their sins She believeth also that life eternall is of debt due unto us as wages