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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A93576	The hidden things of Esau brought to light, and reproved in an answer to a book intituled A true relation of a dispute between Francis Fulwood, minister of West Alvington, in the county of Devon, and Thomas Salthouse, as it is said, of the county of Westmerland, before the congregation of them called Quakers, in the house of Henry Pollexpher Esquire, in the said parish of West. Published in the truth's defence, and sent abroad in the world, to pursue the unknown authors imperfect relation. By a follower of the Lamb in the war against the Beast and false prophet, known to the world by the name of Thomas Salthouse.	Salthouse, Thomas, 1630-1691.	1657 (1657)	Wing S473; Thomason E912_4; ESTC R204852	26,539	40

Here is no mention made of water in this command and besides they to whom it was given were first sent forth to teach as it is written Go teach all Nations and they abode in the doctrine of Christ and went forth as sheep among Wolves and into whatsoever City Town or Village they entred they were to inquire who was worthy and not what they might expect for a livelihood for themselves their Wives and their Children And some were sent forth not to baptize but to preach the Gospel and these were sent first to teach and preach repentance and they were to repent before they were to be baptized So that it plainly manifests That those who baptize Infan●s before they teach them or before they have repented are transgressors of this command of Christ And I also question where ever Frances Fulwood was sent either to preach or baptize for Christs Ministers were not so beggerly as to take hire for their preaching twice every Lords day or to contend or wrangle for a competent maintenance in lieu of preaching or for Tithes calling them Christs wages This manifests another spirit then was in the true Prophets Apostles and Ministers of Christ who called all to come freely without money and without price and gave freely as they had freely received But as there were false Prophets in Israel even so there are also false Prophets in England whose hearts are exercised with covercous practises and who have forsaken the right way in these last days and perilous times and many have followed their pernicious ways by reason of whom the way of truth is evil spoken of And these men in the ears of deluded people are crying up the Church and Ordinances Baptism Sacrament Preaching Praying and Singing even as the Jews did of old the Temple of the Lord the Temple of the Lord when they themselves were even destroyed for want of knowledge But the Lord hath raised up a light in the hearts of Ten thousands of his Saints whereby they are comprehended judged and condemned and turned away from them that have gotten the words without the life the form but not the power the shadow and not the substance the sign but not the seal There was indeed a time of ignorance a day that was neither clear nor dark in the which we were led aside by these dumb Idol-shepherds till God commanded the light to shine out of darkness and shined into our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glorious Gospel Church and Ordinances in the face of Jesus Christ of whom we had heard and on whom we had believed And being justified by faith we have peace with God Heb. 11.6 and without faith its impossible to please God Fulw. Faith you say is required in Baptism and that renders Infants capable thereof for though Faith be required this doth not render Infants uncapable of Baptism for children were capable of Circumcision and yet Circumcision was a sign and seal of the Righteousness of Faith Answ Their Circumcision made with hands was a sign Rom. 4. but not a seal for what saith the Scripture Abraham believed God and it was counted to him for righteousness not when he was in Circumcision but when he was in uncircumcision and he received the sign of Circumcision a seal of the righteousness of faith which he had when he was uncircumcised The Circumcision of the heart is the seal Ezek. 20.12 10. and the Circumcision with hands was the sign of that seal as the Sabbath was given to Israel for a sign of that Everlasting Sabbath which is prepared for the people of God But now neither Circumcision nor uncircumcision availeth any thing but a new Creature neither doth the figure of Water-baptism nor Sprinkling of Infants which is no figure seal nor sign avail any thing 1 Pet 3.21 but the keeping of the Commandments of God for when the Gentiles that have not the Law do by nature the things contained in the Law these having not the Law are a Law unto themselves Rom. 2. shewing the effect of the Law written in their hearts c. Therefore if the uncircumsion keep the righteousness of the Law shall not his uncircumcision be counted for Circumcision for that is not Circumcision which is outward Phil. 3.3 but that of the heart in the Spirit and not in the Letter for they onely are the Circumcision that worship God in the Spirit and have no confidence in the flesh and they only know the true Baptism that are come to the answer of a good conscience towards God by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead who are buried with him in Baptism Eph. 4.30 and quickned together with him and sealed up by the Spirit of promise until the day of redemption And if this be all the proof can be alleaged for the baptising of Infants by the Teachers of the World and their upholders the Author of this Book their Foundation is on the Sand for neither can they prove that Christ commanded to baptize Infants with water nor that it came in the room of circumcision or that it is either Sign or Seal of the Righteousness of Faith unless we should believe what they conceive or imagine for a truth which few will do that have their sences exercised by reason of use to discern between truth and error the power of godliness and the form and have had experience of the deceit of such as now are gone forth into the world Matth. 15.9 who teach for doctrine the traditions of men Something also was spoken about singing Davids Conditions in Rime and Meeter which I then opposed and denied the practise of as they were by these Poets or Fidlers Sternhold Hopkins and others Translated into English Meeter with apt Notes to be sung in the Church and Chappels so called before their Morning and Evening Prayers and Formal Preaching which while the people are singing they uncover their heads as if the Scriptures were more holy and honorable since these men perverted them by putting them into Meeter then they were before as they were spoken forth by him who was a holy man after Gods own heart inspired by the Holy Ghost But all your Songs will the Lord God of Sabbath suddenly turn into weeping and howling mourning and bitter lamentation Although for a season these men of the World whose portion is in this life may make merry over the witness and put far away the evil day who lie upon their Beds of Ivory and stretch themselves on the Couches that eat the Lambs out of the flock and the Calves out of the midst of the stall that chant to the sound of the Viol and invent to themselves instruments of Musick like David who sings lyes in the Name of the Lord calling him to witness that they are not puft in minde when they are so proud heady high-minded and scornful that without disdain they can scarcely one look upon another

being made subject to the higher power for Conscience sake And if thou smite me on the one Cheek I must rather turn the other then smite thee again And if any of those within the compass of thy quarter who are witnesses of the unchangable Priesthood out of Conscience refuse to pay thee Tithes thou hast this shelter to flie unto to wit the Law of the Land to sue them for their own Corn or Hay on which thou never bestowedst any labor But Friend look thou first unto the Royal Law and see if this be as thou wouldst be done by If thou profess thy self to be a Minister of God let the Law of God be thy rule and take counsel of him alone and let his Word be thy light and here thou wilt come to see thy pleading for Tithes to be onely for thy own carnal ends and not for the glory of God And if any one deny to pay Tithes out of coveteousness self-ends or a desire to save the Earth I am against that principle both in thee and them For the Earth is the Lords and the fulness thereof And if any man have this worlds goods and see his Brother have need and shut up his compassion against him how dwells the love of God in that man But that thou hast as much right to Tithes as the Gentleman thou makest mention of hath to his estate it lies upon thee to prove by Scripture Col. 2.14 for that Law is changed and the hand writing of Ordinances blotted out by which the Levitical Priesthood had right to their Tithes who had no inheritance in the Land of Canaan But thou canst not prove that the Evidences by which the Gentleman thou speakest of holds his estate is disannulled or made void And they who received Tithes Deut. 14.29 had also a commandment to pay Tithes And if thou plead for their order then the strangers the widows and fatherless have as much reason to plead for and right to receive Tithes as thou or any of thy Brethren hath And if thou plead for Melchisedecs order then if thou meet any coming from the slaughter of their enemies after they have conquered if thou have a blessing for them thou maist take the Tenth of the spoils if they be free to give it thee but if thou deny the figures and own and confess Jesus Christ to be come in the flesh and thy self to be one of his Ministers thou needst neither plead for Tithes nor take thought what to eat or drink or what to put on Matth. 6. For after these things do the Heathen seek who know not God Fulw. The Text saith he paid Tithes and if it be granted me That Tithes be lawful to be paid in the time of the Gospel I desire no more Answ The Text doth not say that Tithes was paid in the time of the Gospel not to any of the Ministers of the Gospel and if thou confess thy self to be one I demand of thee to what end thou desiredst it so earnestly If thou didst but take Christs counsel to seek first the Kingdom of God and its righteousness all other things would be added unto thee for God hath ordained that they that preach the Gospel should live of the Gospel and be content with food and rayment and the hand writing of Ordinances for taking Tithes is blotted out and the Commandment going before disannulled so that it cannot be granted to be lawful for Christs Ministers to take Tithes But what needest thou be afraid if thou be one of his If God took care for Oxen in the time of the Law and for the Levitical Priests who had no inheritance in the promised Land Matth. 6. Doth he not also take care for his children in these days seeing his mercy endures for ever O thou of little Faith is not thy life more then meat and thy body more then rayment If thou were but a Minister of Christ and didst watch onely for the soul the dispute about these carnal things would be soon at an end but by the children of light both your Call Ministry Maintenance and Ordinances are seen which stands onely in outside things and carnal washings are seen and judged What Scripture have you for sprinkling of Infants and so call it Baptism or an Ordinance of God Fulw. I never saw an Infant onely sprinkled Answ Whether it be dipping or sprinkling prove your Baptism of Infants by Scripture to be a lawful command of Christ or an Ordinance of God else I charge you to be usurpers of Authority Many are unsatisfied about this Ordiannce as you call it therefore it lieth upon you to make full proof of your Ministry and practise and wherein your manner of Baptising Infants differs in the ground of it from the Prelates Bishops and Papists whose doctrine and practise you pretend to deny And when your deeds is brought to the light to be proved then it will appear whether you or we have denied the Popish Tenants practise and principles Fulw. This is but to delude the people you know you deny all Baptism with water and that you are as much against the Anabaptists as against us Answ This is a false accusation for I with thousands more in this Nation whose union and fellowship is in the light do own and witness the Baptism which the Scripture speaks of which is by one Spirit into one Body 1 Cor. 12.13 but all Beggerly Elements Bodily Exercises Carnal Ordinances and Outside Services Imitations Likenesses and Shadows of Heavenly things we count as dung and dross in comparison of the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus the Substance and End of all Figures Types and Shadows in whom we are circumcised with the Circumcision made without hands in putting off the Body of the sins of the flesh buried with him in Baptism and raised together with him through the Faith of the operation of God who hath raised him from the dead and we are compleat in him who is the head of all principalities and powers Col. 2. who hath made a shew of them openly triumphing over them and so being dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world we are no more subject to its Ordinances knowing that they perish with the using and do not make the Comers thereunto perfect although they have a shew of wisdom and a will-worship in a voluntary humility by which the people are deluded and if the Anabaptists as thou callest them have an other Baptism then this we are not subject unto it And whereas thou chargest me with deluding the people its false and more then thou canst prove But I shall pass by it having learned of him who when he was reviled reviled not again And if thou hast any Scripture for the baptising Infants with water shew it for the peoples satisfaction Fulw. We are commanded to baptize all Nations but Infants are a great part of all Nations Therefore we are commanded to baptize Infants Answ