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A50248 A defence of the answer and arguments of the synod met at Boston in the year 1662 concerning the subject of Baptism and consociation of churches against the reply made thereto, by the Reverend Mr. John Davenport, pastor of the church at New-Haven, in his treatise entituled Another essay for investigation of the truth &c. : together with an answer to the apologetical preface set before that essay, by some of the elders who were members of the Synod above-mentioned. Mather, Richard, 1596-1669. 1664 (1664) Wing M1271; ESTC W19818 155,430 150

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propos._n except_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o their_o parent_n be_v not_o in_o church-order_n for_o the_o synod_n think_v that_o as_o they_o be_v admit_v into_o church-membership_a in_o their_o minority_n so_o they_o still_o continue_v therein_o and_o the_o contrary_n we_o have_v not_o yet_o see_v prove_v as_o for_o the_o shechemite_n etc._n etc._n circumcision_n may_v be_v profane_v when_o administer_v to_o they_o and_o yet_o baptism_n not_o so_o when_o administer_v to_o the_o child_n in_o question_n for_o if_o the_o former_a be_v not_o in_o the_o church_n yet_o these_o be_v and_o whereas_o the_o former_a be_v vile_a and_o vicious_a in_o their_o life_n these_o other_o be_v far_o from_o any_o such_o thing_n and_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o comparison_n between_o the_o former_a and_o these_o speak_v of_o but_o a_o vast_a difference_n and_o we_o may_v add_v further_o that_o as_o there_o be_v difference_n between_o those_o shechemite_n and_o the_o rest_n and_o the_o person_n 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himself_o or_o upon_o his_o infant_n to_o use_v it_o be_v not_o so_o qualify_v visible_o be_v it_o not_o a_o treacherous_a usurp_a of_o the_o great_a seal_n of_o the_o king_n of_o heaven_n and_o earth_n ans._n neither_o do_v this_o make_v against_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o child_n in_o question_n forasmuch_o as_o their_o parent_n and_o they_o be_v under_o the_o promise_n of_o god_n i_o will_v be_v a_o god_n to_o thou_o and_o to_o thy_o seed_n in_o their_o generation_n and_o the_o parent_n be_v qualify_v as_o in_o the_o five_o proposition_n can_v be_v deny_v to_o have_v faith_n visible_o as_o be_v show_v by_o the_o synod_n in_o their_o argument_n for_o confirm_v that_o proposition_n and_o in_o this_o defence_n former_o sure_o it_o be_v these_o parent_n may_v as_o well_o be_v think_v to_o have_v faith_n visible_o as_o the_o son_n of_o jacob_n aforementioned_a and_o as_o many_o in_o the_o church_n at_o corinth_n of_o who_o it_o be_v say_v that_o they_o be_v culpable_a for_o carnal_a 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synod_n for_o confirm_v this_o six_o proposition_n against_o what_o the_o reverend_a author_n in_o his_o answer_n thereto_o say_v in_o his_o digression_n and_o turn_v back_o to_o the_o proposition_n forego_v the_o three_o reason_n of_o the_o synod_n for_o this_o six_o proposition_n be_v because_o god_n accept_v that_o as_o do_v in_o his_o service_n to_o which_o there_o be_v a_o manifest_a desire_n and_o endeavour_v albeit_o the_o act_n of_o it_o be_v hinder_v as_o in_o david_n to_o build_v the_o temple_n 1_o king_n 8._o in_o abraham_n to_o sacrifice_v his_o son_n heb._n 11.17_o and_o in_o that_o of_o alm_n 2_o cor._n 8.12_o as_o in_o such_o as_o be_v say_v to_o be_v martyr_n in_o voto_fw-la and_o baptise_a in_fw-la voto_fw-la because_o there_o be_v no_o want_n of_o desire_n that_o way_n though_o their_o desire_n be_v not_o actual_o accomplish_v to_o which_o the_o answer_n of_o the_o reverend_a author_n be_v that_o this_o may_v hold_v in_o private_a service_n so_o that_o there_o god_n 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parent_n do_v if_o any_o one_o object_n that_o this_o legal_a uncleanness_n be_v but_o a_o accidental_a and_o ceremonial_a thing_n and_o do_v not_o import_v the_o want_n of_o any_o moral_a or_o essential_a fitness_n for_o the_o passover_n let_v he_o consider_v that_o as_o the_o discipline_n than_o be_v most_o ceremonial_a 41._o and_o hence_o legal_a purity_n be_v then_o a_o essential_a qualification_n unto_o a_o regular_a fitness_n for_o the_o passover_n and_o other_o holy_a thing_n and_o the_o want_n of_o it_o a_o real_a bar_n so_o those_o ceremony_n point_v unto_o moral_a and_o spiritual_a thing_n to_o be_v attend_v by_o we_o now_o their_o legal_a cleansing_n wash_n etc._n etc._n do_v import_n and_o signify_v a_o special_a exercise_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n which_o therefore_o we_o may_v well_o require_v in_o those_o who_o we_o admit_v unto_o full_a communion_n in_o the_o holy_a thing_n of_o
the_o gospel_n yet_o the_o present_a defect_n hereof_o do_v not_o put_v the_o parent_n out_o of_o the_o church_n nor_o exclude_v his_o child_n from_o membership_n or_o from_o the_o initiatory_a seal_n of_o it_o no_o more_o then_o alike_a defect_n do_v then_o we_o may_v also_o mind_v the_o case_n of_o one_o that_o have_v be_v in_o full_a communion_n but_o fall_v into_o offence_n be_v under_o public_a admonition_n for_o it_o be_v not_o he_o in_o a_o state_n of_o unfitness_n take_v it_o for_o want_v of_o actual_a fit_a qualification_n for_o the_o lord_n supper_n yet_o this_o will_v not_o debar_v his_o child_n from_o baptism_n because_o he_o be_v not_o yet_o cut_v off_o from_o membership_n neither_o do_v his_o have_v once_o be_v in_o full_a communion_n alter_v the_o case_n or_o render_v he_o more_o in_fw-la a_o state_n of_o fitness_n then_o the_o parent_n in_o question_n be_v for_o the_o one_o be_v a_o member_n as_o well_o and_o as_o true_o as_o the_o other_o and_o to_o be_v decline_v 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to_o depend_v upon_o the_o parent_n actual_a fitness_n for_o or_o admission_n to_o the_o lord_n supper_n circumcision_n what_o fitness_n for_o the_o lord_n supper_n have_v those_o that_o be_v baptize_v by_o john_n baptist_n and_o by_o christ_n disciple_n at_o his_o appointment_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o public_a ministry_n what_o fitness_n have_v the_o jailor_n when_o himself_o and_o all_o his_o be_v baptize_v after_o a_o hour_n instinction_n wherein_o probable_o he_o have_v not_o so_o much_o as_o hear_v any_o thing_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n the_o teach_n of_o which_o follow_v after_o discipling_n and_o baptise_v as_o be_v hint_v by_o that_o order_n in_o matth._n 28.19_o 20_o and_o by_o the_o ancient_a practice_n of_o not_o teach_v the_o catechumeni_fw-la any_o thing_n about_o the_o lord_n supper_n till_o after_o they_o be_v baptize_v as_o be_v witness_v by_o hanmer_n of_o confirmation_n pag._n 13_o 14._o albaspinans_n apud_fw-la baxter_n of_o confirmation_n pag._n 132._o we_o constant_o read_v in_o the_o story_n of_o the_o act_n that_o person_n be_v baptise_a immediate_o upon_o their_o first_o entrance_n into_o membership_n but_o we_o never_o read_v that_o they_o do_v immediate_o upon_o their_o first_o membership_n receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n which_o strong_o argue_v that_o membership_n and_o baptism_n the_o seal_n thereof_o be_v separable_a even_o in_o the_o adult_n from_o full_a communion_n and_o that_o a_o man_n may_v have_v his_o child_n baptize_v as_o the_o jailor_n and_o other_o have_v and_o yet_o not_o present_o come_v but_o need_n further_a instruction_n and_o preparation_n before_o he_o come_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n so_o far_o be_v baptism_n from_o be_v inseparable_a from_o immediate_a admission_n to_o the_o lord_n supper_n that_o we_o read_v of_o no_o one_o no_o not_o of_o the_o adult_n in_o all_o the_o new_a testament_n tha●_n be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n immediate_o upon_o his_o baptism_n from_o the_o first_o baptism_n of_o 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admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o of_o this_o also_o we_o must_v say_v that_o we_o find_v not_o any_o thing_n that_o prove_v it_o but_o much_o to_o the_o contrary_n and_o though_o we_o have_v not_o meet_v with_o any_o that_o have_v purposely_o handle_v this_o point_n touch_v the_o different_a extent_n of_o these_o two_o sacrament_n yet_o we_o find_v enough_o to_o show_v we_o that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o all_o especial_o in_o the_o best_a age_n and_o the_o choice_a light_n therein_o both_o ancient_a and_o modern_a have_v concur_v and_o meet_v in_o this_o principle_n as_o a_o grant_v and_o undoubted_a truth_n that_o baptism_n be_v of_o large_a extent_n than_o the_o lord_n supper_n so_o as_o that_o many_o that_o be_v within_o the_o visible_a church_n may_v have_v baptism_n for_o themselves_o or_o at_o least_o for_o their_o child_n who_o yet_o ought_v not_o present_o to_o partake_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n or_o who_o do_v at_o present_a want_n actual_a fitness_n for_o 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