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A52720 The Catholick letter to the seeker, or, A reply to the Protestant answer shewing that Catholicks have express Scriptures, for believing the real presence, and that Protestants have none at all, for denying it. N. N. 1688 (1688) Wing N32; ESTC R9655 25,181 42

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