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A93670 Questions propounded for resolution of unlearned Protestants in matter of religion, to the doctours of the prelaticall pretended reformed church of England. Spencer, John, 1601-1671. 1657 (1657) Wing S4957; ESTC R230353 15,605 57

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and_o therefore_o must_v necessary_o be_v hold_v to_o include_v a_o fundamental_a error_n so_o impossible_a and_o implicatorie_a a_o thing_n it_o be_v for_o they_o to_o err_v in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o not_o to_o err_v fundamental_o for_o either_o that_o err_a council_n must_v define_v some_o positive_a error_n or_o that_o which_o god_n never_o reveal_v to_o be_v reveal_v from_o god_n or_o that_o some_o true_a revelation_n of_o god_n be_v a_o error_n both_o which_o contain_v no_o less_o malice_n than_o this_o to_o make_v god_n a_o liar_n quest_n 21._o see_v s._n paul_n ephes._n 4._o v._n 14._o affirm_v that_o our_o saviour_n have_v appoint_v pastor_n and_o teacher_n till_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n as_o a_o mean_n to_o preserve_v christian_a people_n from_o be_v carry_v about_o with_o every_o wind_n of_o doctrine_n these_o word_n every_o wind_n of_o doctrine_n can_v be_v understand_v disjunctive_o for_o then_o if_o those_o pastor_n preserve_v they_o from_o be_v seduce_v in_o one_o only_a point_n of_o christian_n doctrine_n it_o will_v not_o be_v true_a that_o they_o preserve_v they_o from_o be_v carry_v about_o with_o every_o wind_n of_o doctrine_n but_o they_o must_v be_v understand_v conjunctive_o that_o be_v that_o they_o preserve_v they_o from_o be_v carry_v away_o with_o any_o wind_n of_o doctrine_n whatsoever_o which_o shall_v chance_v to_o be_v buzz_v into_o their_o ear_n by_o false_a teacher_n now_o see_v such_o wind_n of_o erroneous_a doctrine_n be_v raise_v as_o well_o in_o point_n which_o protestant_n account_v not_o fundamental_a as_o in_o fundamentals_n the_o meaning_n of_o the_o apostle_n must_v be_v that_o by_o mean_n of_o those_o pastor_n christian_n be_v preserve_v from_o follow_v any_o error_n in_o faith_n whither_o it_o be_v fundamental_a or_o not_o fundamental_a and_o consequent_o that_o they_o can_v ass●redly_o direct_v they_o to_o eschew_v all_o error_n in_o faith_n which_o they_o can_v not_o do_v if_o they_o themselves_o be_v subject_a to_o teach_v they_o
any_o error_n or_o seduce_v they_o by_o any_o w●nd_v of_o doctrine_n whatsoever_o see_v also_o that_o s._n paul_n in_o the_o same_o place_n ephesian_n the_o 4._o v._n 10._o tell_v we_o that_o the_o say_a pastor_n be_v to_o consummate_v the_o saint_n and_o to_o build_v up_o the_o mystical_a body_n of_o christ_n i_o demand_v whither_o the_o apostle_n by_o these_o word_n make_v not_o those_o pastor_n able_a to_o secure_v christian_a people_n from_o error_n not_o only_o in_o the_o foundation_n as_o protestant_n term_v it_o but_o in_o superstructure_n also_o for_o otherwise_o they_o will_v have_v be_v institute_v by_o our_o saviour_n only_o to_o found_v his_o mystical_a body_n the_o church_n but_o not_o to_o build_v it_o up_o and_o to_o ground_n or_o initiate_v the_o saint_n but_o not_o to_o consummate_v they_o quest_n 22._o if_o it_o shall_v be_v answer_v that_o these_o and_o such_o like_a promise_n or_o institution_n of_o christ_n be_v only_o conditional_a that_o be_v true_o intend_v on_o his_o part_n but_o yet_o may_v be_v frustrate_v by_o the_o malice_n of_o such_o as_o corrrespond_v not_o to_o his_o intention_n and_o therefore_o though_o he_o intend_v that_o these_o pastor_n shall_v perform_v the_o say_a office_n in_o the_o church_n yet_o that_o it_o involve_v this_o condition_n if_o they_o be_v not_o want_v on_o their_o part_n but_o by_o their_o fail_v the_o institution_n of_o christ_n be_v make_v frustrate_a and_o of_o no_o effect_n i_o answer_v to_o this_o profane_a and_o unchristian_a objection_n first_o that_o if_o christ_n promise_n and_o institution_n be_v thus_o inefficacious_a and_o conditional_a that_o notwithstanding_o all_o the_o promise_n that_o christ_n have_v make_v for_o the_o preservation_n of_o his_o church_n yet_o by_o the_o malice_n of_o christian_n or_o other_o the_o whole_a christian_a church_n may_v utter_o fail_v and_o come_v to_o nothing_o second_o that_o it_o may_v err_v even_o in_o fundamental_a point_n contrary_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o protestant_n and_o so_o become_v a_o synagogue_n of_o satan_n three_o that_o the_o ancient_a promise_n of_o the_o come_n of_o the_o messiah_n of_o the_o redemption_n of_o mankind_n of_o the_o save_n of_o some_o at_o the_o last_o judgement_n etc._n etc._n have_v no_o absolute_a certainty_n in_o they_o and_o so_o by_o the_o malice_n of_o man_n may_v have_v be_v or_o may_v be_v frustrate_v four_o that_o by_o this_o there_o be_v no_o certain_a credit_n to_o be_v give_v to_o any_o promise_n or_o institution_n of_o god_n or_o christ_n in_o the_o whole_a old_a or_o new_a testament_n for_o a_o thousand_o different_a condition_n may_v be_v invent_v which_o not_o be_v perform_v or_o put_v the_o prediction_n fail_v thus_o one_o may_v say_v upon_o the_o like_a ground_n that_o as_o the_o promise_n of_o benefit_n or_o blessing_n may_v be_v hinder_v by_o the_o malice_n and_o demerit_n of_o wicked_a person_n so_o the_o threat_n and_o thunder_n of_o punishment_n upon_o sinner_n may_v be_v hinder_v by_o the_o virtue_n and_o good_a work_n of_o saint_n and_o because_o we_o have_v no_o rule_n to_o know_v what_o proportion_n of_o goodness_n or_o malice_n be_v sufficient_a to_o frustrate_v such_o prediction_n we_o remain_v whole_o uncertain_a whither_o they_o shall_v be_v absolute_o verify_v or_o no_o unless_o therefore_o this_o principle_n be_v settle_v that_o all_o divine_a institution_n and_o prediction_n be_v to_o be_v hold_v absolute_a and_o never_o to_o be_v frustrate_v whensoever_o it_o be_v not_o evident_o apparent_a that_o they_o be_v conditional_a and_o may_v be_v hinder_v there_o can_v be_v no_o certainty_n that_o any_o institution_n or_o prediction_n in_o the_o whole_a scripture_n shall_v be_v absolute_o fullfil_v see_v therefore_o it_o be_v not_o evident_a that_o this_o institution_n ephesian_n the_o 4._o etc._n etc._n and_o other_o of_o the_o same_o nature_n concerning_o the_o church_n be_v conditional_a they_o be_v to_o be_v suppose_v to_o be_v absolute_a and_o not_o to_o be_v frustrate_v by_o any_o malice_n of_o man_n whatsoever_o five_o no_o protestant_n who_o hold_v the_o whole_a visible_a church_n can_v perish_v nor_o all_o her_o pastor_n prove_v wilful_a seducer_n can_v apply_v this_o answer_n to_o the_o text_n now_o cite_v viz._n ephesian_n 4._o etc._n etc._n for_o if_o it_o be_v hinder_v by_o the_o malice_n of_o the_o say_a pastor_n they_o must_v with_o joint_a consent_n malicious_o and_o witting_o teach_v false_a doctrine_n to_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v to_o teach_v fundamental_a error_n and_o to_o fall_v of_o from_o christ_n if_o this_o solution_n may_v pass_v for_o current_n who_o can_v be_v certain_o assure_v that_o there_o be_v any_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n visible_a or_o invisible_a existent_a now_o in_o the_o world_n for_o all_o the_o promise_n concerning_o the_o continuance_n of_o it_o to_o the_o world_n end_n may_v be_v as_o well_o say_v to_o be_v as_o well_o conditional_a and_o frustrable_a by_o the_o malice_n of_o man_n as_o this_o ephesian_n the_o 4._o etc._n etc._n and_o who_o know_v that_o the_o say_a malice_n be_v not_o already_o grow_v to_o that_o height_n that_o it_o have_v deserve_v that_o god_n shall_v take_v his_o true_a church_n quite_o out_o of_o the_o world_n and_o so_o that_o there_o be_v now_o no_o true_a church_n at_o all_o existent_a in_o the_o whole_a world_n quest_n 23._o whither_o it_o be_v not_o evident_a that_o unlearned_a protestant_n who_o can_v determine_v difference_n in_o religion_n either_o by_o force_n of_o argument_n or_o place_n of_o scripture_n but_o must_v whole_o depend_v in_o the_o choice_n of_o their_o faith_n upon_o the_o authority_n and_o credit_n of_o christian_a teacher_n be_v not_o oblige_v in_o conscience_n to_o prefer_v that_o authority_n and_o credibility_n of_o doctor_n before_o all_o other_o which_o all_o circumstance_n considere_v be_v absolute_o and_o unquestionable_o the_o great_a authority_n quest_n 24._o whither_o that_o authority_n of_o doctor_n where_o those_o of_o one_o side_n be_v equal_a at_o least_o if_o not_o exceed_v they_o of_o the_o contrary_a party_n in_o learning_n wisdom_n zeal_n sincerity_n virtue_n sanctity_n and_o all_o other_o quality_n and_o perfection_n which_o confer_v to_o the_o accomplishment_n of_o complete_a authority_n in_o a_o christian_a teacher_n and_o with_o this_o equality_n incomparable_o exceed_v the_o doctor_n of_o the_o other_o party_n in_o number_n be_v not_o in_o all_o prudence_n to_o be_v judge_v absolute_o and_o unquestionable_o the_o great_a authority_n quest_n 25._o whither_o this_o equality_n at_o least_o in_o all_o the_o say_a perfection_n be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o roman_a doctor_n compare_v with_o those_o of_o protestant_n quest_n 26._o whither_o with_o this_o forementioned_a equalize_v the_o protestant_a doctor_n those_o of_o the_o roman_a church_n the_o many_o year_n of_o their_o continuance_n and_o universal_a extent_n of_o their_o religion_n consider_v exceed_v not_o incomparable_o in_o number_n those_o of_o the_o protestant_a profession_n quest_n 27._o whither_o this_o equality_n in_o perfection_n and_o incomparable_a excess_n in_o number_n consider_v all_o unlearned_a protestant_n be_v not_o oblige_v both_o in_o prudence_n and_o conscience_n to_o prefer_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o roman_a doctor_n before_o that_o of_o protestant_n and_o consequent_o to_o follow_v the_o roman_a and_o desert_v the_o protestant_a doctrine_n quest_n 28._o whither_o upon_o the_o foresay_a consideration_n the_o authority_n of_o the_o protestant_a doctor_n in_o all_o thing_n wherein_o they_o contradict_v the_o roman_a be_v not_o contemptibile_fw-la and_o unable_a to_o sway_v the_o judgement_n of_o any_o prudent_a christian_n to_o frame_v any_o moral_a esteem_n of_o it_o for_o though_o in_o matter_n wherein_o they_o be_v either_o second_v or_o not_o contradict_v by_o a_o authority_n incomparable_o great_a than_o their_o own_o they_o may_v deserve_o be_v 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question_n propound_v for_o resolution_n of_o unlearned_a protestant_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n to_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o prelatical_a pretend_a reform_a church_n of_o england_n print_v at_o paris_n 1657._o question_n propound_v for_o resolution_n of_o unlearned_a protestant_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n to_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o prelatical_a pretend_a reform_a church_n of_o england_n 1._o quest_n whither_o every_o christian_n be_v not_o oblige_v to_o choose_v the_o safe_a way_n all_o thing_n consider_v to_o salvation_n 2._o quest_n whither_o that_o way_n wherein_o both_o party_n acknowledge_v that_o unlearned_a man_n may_v have_v possibility_n of_o salvation_n 1_o 280._o though_o one_o of_o they_o say_v it_o be_v with_o difficulty_n and_o danger_n if_o they_o look_v not_o well_o to_o the_o foundation_n be_v not_o prudent_o to_o be_v judge_v more_o safe_a for_o the_o unlearned_a then_o that_o which_o be_v esteem_v safe_a by_o one_o only_a party_n and_o that_o 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of_o their_o salvation_n so_o long_o as_o they_o remain_v protestant_n and_o refuse_v to_o be_v of_o the_o roman_a church_n 5._o quest_n whither_o a_o person_n who_o be_v in_o quiet_a possession_n of_o any_o good_n title_n right_n or_o dignity_n etc._n etc._n retain_v not_o the_o right_a to_o all_o such_o good_n and_o be_v wrongful_o deprive_v of_o they_o so_o long_o as_o he_o neither_o confess_v that_o he_o have_v no_o right_a to_o they_o nor_o be_v condemn_v by_o the_o clear_a sentence_n of_o any_o lawful_a and_o competent_a judge_n of_o sufficient_a authority_n to_o define_v against_o he_o but_o still_o maintaine●_z his_o cause_n against_o his_o adversary_n and_o give_v at_o least_o probable_a answer_n to_o all_o that_o he_o allege_v against_o he_o and_o plead_v to_o be_v restore_v to_o his_o ancient_a possession_n take_v from_o he_o by_o force_n and_o violence_n and_o whither_o he_o who_o thus_o violent_o take_v the_o possession_n from_o he_o be_v not_o oblige_v in_o conscience_n to_o restore_v it_o to_o he_o again_o and_o whither_o he_o proceed_v not_o unjust_o so_o long_o as_o he_o retain_v it_o from_o he_o 6._o quest_n whither_o this_o have_v not_o be_v within_o the_o last_o hundred_o and_o fifty_o year_n and_o still_o be_v the_o proceed_n of_o protestant_n against_o the_o roman_a church_n violent_o exclude_v her_o bishop_n pastor_n and_o people_n from_o the_o quiet_a possession_n of_o many_o hundred_o year_n continuance_n of_o their_o doctrine_n dignity_n title_n government_n benefice_n church_n possession_n and_o still_o retain_v they_o and_o refuse_v to_o restore_v they_o those_o of_o the_o roman_a church_n still_o claim_v their_o right_n and_o never_o have_v be_v condemn_v by_o any_o competent_a and_o lawful_a judge_n nor_o acknowledge_v themselves_o convince_v to_o have_v obtain_v that_o possession_n wrongful_o 7._o quest_n whither_o the_o quiet_a possession_n of_o many_o age_n both_o of_o the_o eastern_a and_o western_a church_n in_o their_o unanimous_a consent_n of_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n in_o most_o point_n of_o controversy_n betwixt_o they_o and_o protestant_n be_v not_o a_o sufficient_a proof_n to_o justify_v the_o say_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n till_o it_o be_v convince_v clear_o evident_o and_o undeniable_o by_o reason_n or_o authority_n or_o lawful_o condemn_v of_o error_n so_o that_o it_o belong_v to_o protestant_n who_o be_v the_o aggressour_n to_o convince_v their_o adversary_n of_o error_n and_o not_o to_o those_o of_o the_o roman_a or_o grecian_a church_n to_o prove_v their_o tenant_n by_o any_o other_o argument_n then_o that_o of_o their_o quiet_n ancient_a and_o universal_a possession_n though_o catholic_n be_v upon_o the_o affirmative_a and_o protestant_n upon_o the_o negative_a as_o he_o who_o quiet_o possess_v the_o name_n title_n arm_n and_o land_n of_o such_o or_o such_o a_o family_n have_v sufficient_o prove_v that_o he_o have_v right_a to_o they_o and_o that_o they_o be_v true_o he_o till_o he_o either_o confess_v that_o the_o contrary_a be_v sufficient_o prove_v or_o that_o it_o be_v lawful_o determine_v against_o he_o 8._o quest_n whither_o it_o be_v not_o a_o most_o insolent_a madness_n as_o st._n augustin_n term_n it_o or_o a_o insufferable_a height_n of_o pride_n for_o any_o christian_n whatsoever_o to_o call_v in_o question_n much_o more_o to_o censure_v and_o condemn_v as_o erroneous_a that_o which_o all_o the_o visible_a church_n in_o the_o world_n teach_v and_o practise_v and_o a_o manifest_a foolery_n to_o follow_v any_o teacher_n and_o give_v ear_n and_o belief_n to_o they_o who_o contradict_v the_o universal_a practice_n and_o doctrine_n of_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n 9_o quest_n whither_o the_o first_o be_v not_o do_v by_o the_o first_o author_n of_o protestant_a religion_n and_o the_o second_o do_v and_o still_o continue_v by_o their_o follower_n or_o if_o the_o first_o author_n of_o protestant_a religion_n receive_v those_o point_n of_o their_o doctrine_n from_o any_o visible_a church_n in_o the_o whole_a world_n which_o exist_v immediate_o before_o their_o relinquish_a the_o roman_a doctrine_n let_v that_o church_n be_v produce_v and_o name_v 10._o quest_n see_v protestant_n affirm_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v infect_v with_o error_n in_o faith_n which_o they_o pretend_v to_o have_v purge_v in_o their_o reformation_n i_o demand_v that_o it_o be_v evidence_v when_o any_o of_o these_o pretend_a error_n begin_v to_o be_v public_o teach_v and_o practise_v out_o of_o some_o approve_a author_n of_o any_o age_n who_o affirm_v that_o the_o public_a profession_n of_o the_o say_a error_n begin_v in_o or_o about_o their_o time_n for_o see_v they_o be_v public_o practise_v through_o all_o christendom_n if_o that_o public_a practice_n have_v ever_o begin_v in_o any_o age_n since_o the_o apostle_n it_o must_v have_v be_v take_v notice_n of_o whereby_o their_o instance_n of_o consumption_n in_o the_o lung_n of_o a_o beard_n grow_v white_a etc._n etc._n be_v show_v to_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n because_o they_o be_v either_o whole_o secret_a or_o insensible_a and_o no_o way_n public_a and_o notorious_a as_o these_o be_v and_o see_v faith_n by_o s._n paul_n ephes._n 4._o v._n 1._o 2._o be_v say_v to_o be_v one_o and_o reckon_v up_o with_o the_o unity_n of_o god_n and_o christ_n and_o so_o must_v be_v perfect_o one_o how_o protestant_n and_o those_o of_o the_o roman_a church_n can_v proper_o be_v say_v to_o have_v one_o faith_n when_o the_o the_o one_o believe_v what_o the_o other_o disbelieve_v and_o as_o opinion_n contradict_v one_o another_o can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v one_o opinion_n how_o can_v faith_n contradict_v one_o another_o be_v say_v to_o be_v one_o faith_n neither_o be_v it_o enough_o to_o say_v that_o they_o be_v one_o in_o that_o wherein_o they_o agree_v for_o so_o they_o will_v be_v one_o only_o in_o part_n or_o partial_o and_o not_o absolute_o and_o entire_o and_o as_o the_o least_o difference_n destroy_v the_o perfect_a unity_n of_o god_n and_o christ_n so_o will_v it_o do_v that_o of_o faith_n and_o though_o my_o opinion_n agree_v with_o that_o of_o another_o in_o many_o thing_n but_o disagree_v in_o many_o other_o from_o his_o we_o can_v never_o be_v say_v absolute_o as_o it_o must_v be_v in_o faith_n to_o be_v of_o the_o same_o or_o one_o opinion_n quest_n 11._o whither_o it_o be_v not_o a_o great_a argument_n to_o induce_v any_o rational_a indifferent_a man_n to_o judge_v that_o the_o protestant_a author_n be_v put_v to_o great_a strait_o and_o to_o desperate_a acknowledgement_n when_o be_v ashamed_a of_o the_o first_o refuge_n of_o their_o beginner_n in_o fly_v for_o the_o defence_n of_o their_o succession_n to_o a_o invisible_a church_n and_o no_o less_o of_o the_o second_o in_o allege_v for_o their_o predecessor_n and_o continuance_n of_o the_o visibility_n of_o their_o church_n berengarius_fw-la the_o waldenses_n albigenses_n wicleffe_v hussite_n and_o other_o public_o condemn_v
say_v that_o protestant_n may_v be_v save_v live_v and_o die_v wilful_o in_o their_o religion_n they_o deserve_v no_o credit_n at_o all_o for_o the_o quite_o contrary_a be_v most_o constant_o defend_v by_o the_o incomparable_o strong_a authority_n of_o the_o roman_a doctor_n and_o the_o like_a be_v to_o be_v affirm_v in_o all_o the_o point_n of_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o two_o religion_n so_o that_o a_o protestant_n be_v not_o to_o consider_v the_o ability_n and_o authority_n of_o his_o doctor_n absolute_o or_o in_o matter_n out_o of_o controversy_n but_o as_o contradict_v a_o authority_n ●comparably_o exceed_v they_o in_o which_o contradiction_n they_o deserve_v neither_o credit_n nor_o esteem_n quest_n 29._o i_o demand_v further_o that_o if_o the_o authority_n of_o all_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o protestant_n be_v so_o inconsiderable_a in_o comparison_n with_o that_o of_o the_o roman_a doctor_n how_o much_o less_o will_v be_v the_o authority_n of_o any_o one_o sect_n or_o party_n of_o they_o and_o then_o how_o minute_n and_o scarce_o perceptible_a will_v be_v the_o authority_n of_o a_o lawd_n a_o hammond_n a_o chillingworth_n a_o fern_n a_o bramhall_n a_o tailor_n etc._n etc._n which_o now_o obtain_v so_o powerful_a a_o ascendant_n upon_o the_o heart_n of_o our_o modern_a lay_a protestant_n see_v they_o be_v in_o a_o manner_n nothing_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o roman_a doctor_n quest_n 30._o all_o this_o be_v demand_v suppose_v that_o the_o roman_a doctor_n be_v only_o equal_a to_o those_o of_o protestant_n in_o all_o the_o forename_a quality_n conduce_v to_o the_o perfect_a authority_n of_o a_o master_n in_o christianity_n but_o now_o i_o demand_v whether_o those_o who_o have_v authority_n of_o teach_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n general_o speak_v in_o so_o much_o as_o can_v be_v prudent_o deduce_v by_o experience_n from_o they_o be_v not_o much_o excel_v the_o protestant_a ministry_n in_o all_o the_o say_a quality_n what_o counsel_n have_v they_o worth_a the_o mention_n in_o comparison_n with_o the_o general_a counsel_n consent_v with_o the_o present_a roman_a church_n even_o according_a to_o their_o own_o confession_n as_o the_o second_o of_o nice_a the_o great_a council_n of_o lateran_n the_o council_n of_o constance_n florence_n and_o trent_n wherein_o such_o multitude_n of_o learned_a man_n and_o holy_a patriarch_n metropolitan_n archbishop_n bishop_n doctor_n prelate_n both_o of_o the_o eastern_a and_o western_a church_n unanimous_o confirm_v the_o roman_a and_o condemn_v the_o protestant_a doctrine_n what_o proof_n of_o learning_n have_v the_o protestant_a ministry_n comparable_a to_o those_o of_o the_o roman_a doctor_n whereof_o many_o have_v write_v one_o no_o small_a number_n two_o other_o three_o and_o four_o other_o six_o eight_o ten_o twelve_o and_o some_o twenty_o and_o four_o and_o twenty_o great_a tome_n in_o folio_n and_o those_o replenish_v in_o the_o general_a repute_n of_o christendom_n even_o among_o protestant_n also_o with_o profound_a and_o high_a learning_n who_o among_o their_o ministry_n have_v they_o who_o have_v obtain_v the_o universal_a esteem_n of_o sanctity_n as_o have_v our_o gregory_n beda_n thomas_n bonaventure_n antonine_n dominic_n and_o diverse_a other_o where_o find_v they_o among_o they_o that_o zeal_n to_o pass_v into_o the_o heart_n of_o so_o many_o barbarous_a and_o heathen_a nation_n to_o plant_v the_o gospel_n even_o with_o the_o undergo_n of_o unheard-of_a torment_n and_o suffer_v most_o cruel_a martyrdom_n as_o many_o of_o the_o roman_a clergy_n have_v do_v within_o these_o late_a year_n let_v they_o name_v but_o one_o sole_a minister_n who_o have_v suffer_v martyrdom_n for_o preach_v christian_a faith_n to_o the_o pagan_n what_o mean_n have_v the_o protestant_a ministry_n with_o their_o wife_n good_n and_o family_n to_o apply_v themselves_o to_o study_v and_o devotion_n comparable_a to_o our_o single_a clergy_n and_o retire_v religious_a where_o be_v that_o unanimous_a consent_n in_o all_o point_n of_o faith_n see_v they_o be_v perpetual_o jar_v not_o only_o one_o with_o another_o but_o the_o same_o minister_n dissent_v notorious_o now_o from_o what_o they_o teach_v twenty_o year_n ago_o among_o they_o compare_v to_o the_o constancy_n and_o agreement_n of_o our_o doctor_n what_o miracle_n have_v any_o of_o their_o ministry_n ever_o do_v in_o confirmation_n either_o of_o their_o doctrine_n against_o the_o roman_a church_n or_o of_o the_o christian_a faith_n against_o heathen_n as_o unless_o all_o human_a faith_n be_v infringe_v many_o of_o we_o have_v do_v both_o against_o they_o and_o heathen_n i_o can_v instance_n in_o many_o more_o particular_n but_o these_o may_v suffice_v for_o these_o short_a demand_n whence_o appear_v evident_o that_o whosoever_o profess_v to_o be_v lead_v by_o the_o sole_a authority_n of_o christian_a doctor_n and_o pastor_n must_v either_o deserve_v the_o esteem_n i_o say_v not_o only_o of_o a_o unchristian_a but_o even_o of_o a_o imprudent_a man_n if_o he_o adhere_v to_o so_o undeserving_a and_o contemptible_a a_o authority_n as_o be_v that_o of_o the_o protestant_a ministry_n in_o comparison_n of_o the_o roman_a doctor_n who_o so_o incomparable_o outstrip_v they_o not_o only_o in_o multitude_n but_o in_o all_o the_o motive_n and_o perfection_n which_o give_v credit_n to_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o christian_a teacher_n quest_n 31._o whether_o hence_o be_v not_o evident_o discover_v not_o only_o the_o insufferable_a pride_n of_o luther_n and_o the_o other_o original_a beginner_n of_o any_o sect_n in_o protestancy_n in_o prefer_v their_o sole_a authority_n before_o that_o of_o the_o prelate_n and_o doctor_n of_o all_o the_o visible_a church_n in_o christendom_n existent_a when_o they_o begin_v first_o to_o preach_v their_o doctrine_n but_o the_o extreme_a madness_n of_o all_o the_o ignorant_a laity_n who_o follow_v they_o upon_o their_o sole_a authority_n and_o prefer_v one_o single_a person_n upon_o his_o bare_a word_n without_o any_o extraordinary_a sign_n or_o manifest_a proof_n from_o heaven_n attest_v his_o authority_n before_o all_o the_o doctor_n prelate_n counsel_n church_n within_o the_o precinct_n of_o christendom_n both_o of_o that_o present_a time_n and_o for_o nine_o hundred_o year_n before_o and_o if_o those_o be_v infest_v with_o so_o deep_a a_o frenzy_n how_o can_v any_o man_n be_v judge_v deserve_o discreet_a and_o prudent_a who_o approve_v of_o their_o proceed_n in_o this_o particular_a and_o side_n with_o they_o at_o least_o in_o some_o article_n or_o other_o in_o the_o opposition_n of_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n as_o all_o protestant_n do_v even_o to_o this_o day_n quest_n 32._o hence_o i_o far_o demand_v that_o see_v on_o one_o side_n the_o true_a christian_a religion_n have_v the_o divine_a wisdom_n for_o its_o author_n can_v admit_v of_o any_o thing_n imprudent_a as_o proper_o belong_v to_o it_o in_o the_o choice_n of_o it_o and_o on_o the_o other_o that_o the_o protestant_a religion_n or_o any_o sect_n whatsoever_o spring_v from_o it_o or_o existent_a in_o it_o can_v be_v prudent_o choose_v by_o any_o unlearned_a person_n who_o be_v sufficient_o inform_v of_o the_o nullity_n of_o that_o authority_n which_o propound_v it_o compare_v with_o the_o authority_n propound_v the_o roman_a religion_n whether_o i_o say_v those_o particular_n consider_v the_o protestant_a religion_n in_o any_o sect_n of_o it_o whatsoever_o can_v be_v esteem_v the_o true_a christian_a religion_n quest_n 33._o hence_o i_o press_v far_o whether_o the_o prove_v that_o protestant_a religion_n can_v be_v prudent_o choose_v or_o retain_v by_o any_o unlearned_a person_n who_o be_v sufficient_o inform_v of_o the_o eminent_a authority_n propound_v the_o roman_a religion_n be_v not_o a_o sufficient_a argument_n to_o they_o that_o no_o sect_n among_o they_o in_o any_o point_n wherein_o it_o differ_v from_o the_o roman_a have_v either_o any_o solid_a ground_n in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n or_o true_a relation_n to_o god_n holy_a spirit_n or_o coherence_n with_o true_a reason_n see_v a_o religion_n which_o can_v by_o they_o be_v choose_v prudent_o can_v possible_o proceed_v from_o any_o of_o these_o three_o whatsoever_o fair_a show_n protestant_n each_o respective_o to_o his_o several_a sect_n make_v vain_o of_o they_o quest_n 34._o and_o upon_o this_o i_o demand_v yet_o far_o whether_o the_o roman_a doctor_n have_v any_o obligation_n to_o urge_v any_o other_o argument_n than_o this_o either_o from_o scripture_n father_n or_o reason_n against_o protestant_n till_o they_o have_v clear_v their_o religion_n from_o the_o impeachment_n of_o imprudence_n commit_v by_o their_o follower_n in_o the_o election_n of_o it_o or_o persist_v in_o it_o as_o be_v afore_o declare_v quest_n 35._o on_o the_o contrary_a side_n i_o demand_v whether_o the_o roman_a doctor_n have_v any_o obligation_n in_o rigour_n of_o dispute_n to_o use_v any_o other_o argument_n for_o persuade_v unlearned_a person_n to_o