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this_o benefit_n of_o combination_n with_o other_o church_n in_o classical_a government_n yet_o do_v we_o acknowledge_v that_o notwithstanding_o this_o want_n such_o a_o church_n may_v still_o subsist_v &_o be_v repute_v a_o true_a church_n and_o yet_o so_o that_o we_o hold_v every_o church_n bind_v to_o seek_v this_o dependency_n &_o union_n with_o other_o church_n as_o god_n shall_v give_v opportunity_n &_o mean_n and_o can_v without_o sin_n neglect_v the_o same_o to_o this_o place_n belong_v the_o answer_n unto_o two_o of_o those_o question_n which_o mr_n can_v 33._o can_v church_n plea._n p._n 33._o propound_v upon_o another_o occasion_n i._o can._n whither_o it_o be_v jure_fw-la divino_fw-la that_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n of_o many_o church_n be_v necessary_o bind_v to_o determine_v by_o joint_a authority_n the_o case_n of_o many_o particular_a congregation_n or_o whither_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n arbitrary_a &_o leave_v unto_o every_o man_n liberty_n answ._n that_o the_o combination_n of_o church_n in_o class_n &_o synod_n for_o judge_v &_o determine_v the_o case_n of_o many_o particular_a church_n by_o joint_a authority_n be_v a_o divine_a ordinance_n and_o appoint_a jure_fw-la divino_fw-la be_v that_o which_o i_o maintain_v &_o labour_n to_o prove_v in_o this_o dispute_n &_o in_o the_o follow_a argument_n as_o it_o be_v not_o a_o thing_n arbitrary_a and_o leave_v unto_o every_o man_n liberty_n whether_o he_o shall_v join_v himself_o as_o a_o member_n unto_o a_o particular_a church_n if_o he_o have_v mean_n and_o opportunity_n to_o do_v it_o so_o it_o be_v not_o a_o thing_n arbitrary_a nor_o leave_v in_o the_o liberty_n of_o particular_a church_n whether_o they_o shall_v combine_v themselves_o into_o class_n &_o synod_n for_o their_o spiritual_a government_n if_o they_o have_v opportunity_n all_o that_o neglect_n to_o do_v it_o sin_n against_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n &_o walk_v not_o as_o become_v the_o member_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n rom._n 12.5_o 1._o cor._n 12.25_o eph._n 4.16_o i._o can._n whither_o all_o such_o case_n and_o controversy_n as_o be_v decide_v by_o many_o minister_n combine_v into_o class_n &_o synod_n must_v so_o stand_v as_o that_o particular_a congregation_n may_v not_o if_o they_o think_v fit_a reject_v the_o same_o and_o practice_v otherwise_o then_o have_v be_v there_o determine_v by_o joint_a authority_n answ._n man_n be_v bind_v to_o stand_v unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o class_n &_o synod_n so_o far_o as_o their_o determination_n be_v find_v agreeable_a unto_o the_o word_n &_o no_o further_o act._n 4.19_o but_o if_o any_o particular_a church_n reject_v their_o sentence_n &_o determination_n be_v consonant_n unto_o the_o scripture_n than_o that_o church_n commit_v double_a sin_n once_o for_o transgress_v against_o the_o write_a word_n of_o god_n and_o again_o for_o despise_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n and_o contemn_v the_o joint_a authority_n of_o such_o as_o be_v meet_v together_o in_o his_o name_n particular_a church_n be_v so_o to_o respect_n and_o stand_v unto_o the_o determination_n of_o classical_a or_o provincial_n synod_n even_o as_o particular_a man_n and_o member_n of_o a_o church_n be_v bind_v to_o stand_v unto_o the_o sentence_n of_o that_o church_n where_o they_o be_v member_n viz._n according_a to_o the_o truth_n and_o will_n of_o god_n and_o not_o otherwise_o chap._n ii_o the_o first_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o word_n of_o the_o law_n deut._n 17_o 8-12_a the_o first_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n deliver_v by_o moses_n of_o old_a unto_o israel_n where_o the_o people_n of_o god_n in_o particular_a congregation_n be_v teach_v to_o bring_v their_o hard_a &_o difficult_a controversy_n as_o well_o ecclesiastical_a as_o civil_a unto_o a_o superior_a judicatory_a unto_o the_o priest_n the_o levite_n or_o unto_o the_o judge_n in_o those_o day_n according_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o cause_n for_o the_o decide_n thereof_o deut._n 17_o 8-12_a this_o order_n be_v also_o reestablish_v in_o the_o day_n of_o jehoshaphat_n who_o place_v and_o settle_v in_o jerusalem_n a_o ecclesiastical_a synedrion_fw-mi or_o senate_n for_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o lord_n over_o which_o amariah_n be_v precedent_n &_o these_o be_v to_o receive_v the_o complaint_n and_o to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o their_o brethren_n that_o come_v up_o unto_o they_o from_o other_o city_n &_o place_n of_o their_o habitation_n even_o as_o there_o be_v also_o a_o civil_a synedrion_fw-mi for_o the_o affair_n of_o the_o king_n over_o which_o zebadiah_n be_v precedent_n 2._o chron._n 19_o 8-11_a this_o form_n of_o government_n be_v commend_v unto_o we_o of_o david_n as_o the_o praise_n of_o jerusalem_n when_o he_o point_v out_o distinct_o these_o two_o kind_n of_o senate_n 122._o senate_n see_v jun._n annot._n on_o psal_n 122._o ecclesiastical_a and_o civil_a throne_n of_o judgement_n and_o throne_n of_o the_o house_n of_o david_n whereunto_o the_o tribe_n even_o the_o tribe_n of_o the_o lord_n do_v go_v up_o psa_fw-la 122.4.5_o as_o paul_n once_o rejoice_v in_o the_o spirit_n to_o see_v the_o order_n of_o the_o colossian_n col._n 2.5_o so_o david_n consider_v the_o beauty_n of_o this_o order_n declare_v the_o same_o to_o be_v one_o special_a cause_n of_o his_o spiritual_a gladness_n &_o joy_n in_o the_o lord_n witness_v in_o that_o psalm_n hereby_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o assembly_n &_o synagogue_n of_o israel_n be_v not_o independent_a but_o stand_v under_o a_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o they_o have_v no_o single_a uncompounded_a policy_n all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v not_o limit_v unto_o particular_a congregation_n now_o let_v we_o see_v what_o our_o opposite_n say_v to_o this_o i._o can._n 44._o can._n church_n plea._n p._n 43_o 44._o he_o seek_v to_o strengthen_v the_o authority_n of_o class_n &_o synod_n by_o the_o jewish_a polity_n &_o government_n now_o the_o papist_n to_o establish_v the_o sea_n of_o rome_n use_v the_o same_o argument_n and_o the_o truth_n be_v if_z mr_n paget_n intend_v to_o dispute_v this_o way_n they_o will_v carry_v it_o quite_o away_o from_o he_o but_o i_o think_v he_o will_v hereafter_o be_v more_o considerate_a and_o speak_v no_o further_o of_o that_o manner_n and_o form_n of_o church_n government_n see_v he_o know_v the_o most_o learned_a on_o our_o side_n do_v condemn_v the_o papist_n for_o it_o viz._n 4._o viz._n animadv_n contr_n 1._o l._n 3._o c._n 4._o junius_n 2._o junius_n inst_z l._n 4._o c_o 6._o sect_n 2._o calvin_n 614._o calvin_n ag._n whitg_n l._n 2._o p._n 614._o cartwright_n 1._o cartwright_n contr._n 4._o qu._n 1._o d._n whitaker_n &_o other_o answ._n mr_n ainsworth_n before_o he_o speak_v much_o in_o like_a manner_n to_o this_o purpose_n he_o say_v 15.16_o say_v animadv_n p._n 15.16_o it_o be_v a_o main_a pillar_n of_o popery_n to_o proportion_v the_o church_n now_o in_o the_o outward_a polity_n to_o israel_n the_o rhemist_n will_v have_v 23.2_o have_v rhem._n annot_fw-mi on_o mat._n 23.2_o the_o see_v of_o rome_n in_o the_o new_a law_n to_o be_v answerable_a to_o the_o chair_n of_o moses_n cardinal_n bellarmine_n 1_o bellarmine_n de_fw-fr rom._n pout_v l._n 4._o c._n 1_o make_v his_o first_o argument_n for_o the_o pope_n judge_v of_o controversy_n from_o the_o priest_n &_o judge_n that_o be_v appoint_v in_o the_o law_n deut._n 17._o etc._n etc._n and_o there_o also_o he_o allege_v three_o of_o the_o same_o witness_n against_o argue_v from_o the_o jewish_a policy_n which_o here_o mr_n can_n cit_v again_o mr_n davenp_n plead_v to_o the_o same_o effect_n say_v 254._o say_v apol._n repl_n p._n 254._o the_o text_n which_o bellarmine_n allege_v for_o the_o power_n of_o council_n in_o make_v law_n be_v the_o same_o which_o the_o answerer_n sometime_o harp_v upon_o in_o this_o case_n but_o junius_n clear_o show_v that_o they_o
that_o the_o law_n be_v change_v and_o old_a thing_n pass_v away_o do_v thereupon_o plead_v that_o the_o civil_a power_n of_o the_o magistrate_n and_o the_o use_n of_o the_o sword_n be_v not_o to_o be_v exercise_v by_o christian_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n under_o the_o new_a testament_n ii_o as_o for_o those_o place_n dan._n 9.24_o 26._o luk._n 19.41_o 44._o where_o the_o destruction_n of_o the_o city_n and_o sanctuary_n be_v foretell_v they_o do_v not_o prove_v the_o abolition_n of_o that_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n of_o synod_n which_o we_o maintain_v because_o this_o part_n of_o moses_n polity_n and_o this_o liberty_n of_o appeal_n from_o one_o judicatory_a to_o another_o may_v have_v continue_v even_o among_o the_o jew_n themselves_o though_o both_o city_n and_o sanctuary_n be_v destroy_v and_o much_o more_o may_v still_o be_v retain_v among_o christian_n that_o be_v not_o tie_v unto_o the_o leviticall_a priesthood_n nor_o unto_o any_o other_o legal_a ceremony_n so_o the_o inquisition_n for_o murder_n be_v a_o ordinance_n of_o moses_n polity_n deut._n 21_o 1-9_a though_o divers_a ceremony_n be_v in_o moses_n time_n annex_v there_o unto_o this_o hinder_v not_o but_o that_o those_o ceremony_n be_v abolish_v the_o judicial_a law_n itself_o for_o inquisition_n after_o murder_n be_v of_o common_a equity_n ought_v still_o to_o continue_v among_o we_o again_o it_o be_v further_a to_o be_v observe_v how_o some_o of_o our_o opposite_n labour_v to_o find_v a_o difference_n between_o moses_n polity_n and_o christ_n rule_n have_v describe_v unto_o we_o such_o a_o rule_n of_o proceed_v in_o moses_n time_n as_o be_v not_o to_o be_v acknowledge_v mr_n smith_n as_o be_v note_v 42._o note_v pag._n 42._o before_o make_v this_o to_o be_v the_o order_n of_o proceed_v in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o law_n 1._o reproof_n of_o sin_n levit._n 19.17_o 2._o a_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o cleanse_n of_o the_o party_n reprove_v leu._n 4.23_o 3._o death_n inflict_v by_o the_o magistrate_n upon_o the_o party_n reprove_v if_o he_o wilful_o refuse_v to_o hearken_v etc._n etc._n numb_a 15.30_o 31._o deut._n 17.12_o mr_n ainsworth_n agree_v with_o he_o in_o this_o point_n &_o say_v 440._o say_v h._n ain_n commun_n of_o s._n c._n 22._o p._n 440._o god_n command_v this_o duty_n in_o his_o law_n plain_o to_o rebuke_v our_o neighbour_n leu._n 19.17_o that_o so_o upon_o warning_n and_o sight_n of_o his_o sin_n he_o may_v bring_v his_o sacrifice_n &_o reconcile_v himself_o unto_o the_o lord_n who_o he_o have_v offend_v levit._fw-la 4_o 23-28_a which_o if_o he_o regard_v not_o but_o shall_v do_v aught_o with_o a_o high_a hand_n he_o then_o be_v say_v to_o blaspheme_v the_o lord_n and_o must_v be_v cut_v off_o from_o among_o his_o people_n numb_a 15.30_o 31._o because_o he_o despise_v the_o word_n of_o the_o lord_n etc._n etc._n again_o he_o write_v 121._o write_v animadv_n p._n 120._o 121._o that_o private_a man_n forgive_v not_o sin_n in_o israel_n so_o absolute_o 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so_o the_o word_n be_v conditional_a and_o not_o imperative_fw-it there_o be_v no_o absolute_a commandment_n to_o bring_v a_o sacrifice_n but_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n in_o that_o place_n be_v that_o if_o they_o will_v bring_v a_o sacrifice_n for_o their_o sin_n than_o they_o must_v do_v it_o in_o such_o manner_n as_o be_v there_o prescribe_v and_o there_o be_v a_o double_a reason_n for_o this_o translation_n i._o the_o particle_n vau_n be_v 44._o be_v vau_fw-fr omnium_fw-la aliarum_fw-la conjunctionum_fw-la significationem_fw-la assumere_fw-la potest_fw-la etc._n etc._n aliquando_fw-la conditionem_fw-la includit_fw-la cevall_n &_o bertr_n in_o galeed_n p._n 44._o often_o and_o very_o convenient_o expound_v conditional_o by_o if_o or_o and_o if_o as_o numb_a 5.13_o 14._o &_o 12.14_o deut._n 24.1_o 3._o exod._n 4.23_o so_o the_o principal_a interpreter_n do_v sundry_a time_n translate_v the_o same_o the_o chaldee_n paraphra_v both_o onkelos_n and_o jonathan_n as_o also_o the_o 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so_o that_o the_o 120_o person_n meet_v together_o at_o this_o time_n act._n 1.15_o can_v be_v say_v to_o have_v be_v a_o distinct_a particular_a church_n of_o person_n dwell_v in_o jerusalem_n but_o a_o occasional_a assembly_n or_o synod_n upon_o such_o ground_n as_o the_o story_n of_o the_o scripture_n do_v manifest_a ii_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o business_n itself_o here_o perform_v viz._n the_o election_n of_o a_o apostle_n it_o be_v such_o a_o work_n as_o do_v not_o appertain_v unto_o any_o one_o particular_a church_n but_o all_o church_n have_v interest_n therein_o see_v the_o care_n of_o all_o the_o church_n be_v commit_v unto_o the_o apostle_n 2._o cor._n 11.28_o all_o church_n be_v alike_o bind_v to_o beware_v of_o false_a apostle_n that_o can_v transform_v themselves_o into_o the_o apostle_n of_o christ_n 2._o cor._n 11.13_o it_o have_v be_v a_o presumption_n in_o any_o one_o church_n and_o a_o wrong_n unto_o all_o the_o rest_n if_o without_o their_o consent_n one_o alone_o 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record_v act._n 15._o be_v a_o sufficient_a warrant_n wherein_o the_o use_n and_o authority_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n be_v commend_v unto_o we_o and_o this_o not_o only_o for_o counsel_n and_o admonition_n but_o also_o for_o the_o judgement_n of_o cause_n and_o for_o the_o exercise_n of_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n as_o that_o which_o go_v before_o the_o synod_n namely_o the_o great_a dissension_n about_o a_o dangerous_a error_n with_o seek_v of_o redress_n by_o a_o solemn_a deputation_n of_o messenger_n from_o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n act._n 15.1_o 2._o do_v call_v for_o help_v in_o the_o most_o effectual_a manner_n so_o the_o thing_n do_v in_o the_o synod_n be_v a_o evidence_n of_o the_o authority_n which_o they_o use_v therein_o both_o by_o a_o definitive_a sentence_n which_o they_o pronounce_v concern_v that_o controversy_n which_o be_v bring_v unto_o they_o vers_n 28_o 29._o and_o by_o a_o authentic_a ambassage_n of_o choose_a man_n send_v from_o that_o assembly_n of_o apostle_n elder_n and_o brethren_n both_o to_o carry_v the_o epistle_n that_o be_v write_v and_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n to_o declare_v the_o same_o thing_n vers_fw-la 22_o 23_o 25_o 27._o that_o also_o which_o be_v note_v to_o have_v be_v do_v after_o the_o synod_n in_o the_o publication_n of_o the_o act_n thereof_o do_v also_o bear_v witness_n touch_v the_o authority_n of_o those_o act_n in_o that_o they_o be_v call_v the_o decree_n ordain_v of_o the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n etc._n etc._n act._n 16.4_o the_o fruit_n also_o which_o by_o the_o blessing_n of_o god_n follow_v hereupon_o in_o be_v a_o mean_n of_o great_a consolation_n and_o establishment_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o faith_n act._n 15.31_o &_o 16.5_o be_v to_o be_v consider_v as_o a_o argument_n whereby_o the_o h._n ghost_n do_v further_a commend_v unto_o we_o the_o authority_n of_o such_o synod_n in_o the_o right_a government_n of_o the_o church_n upon_o this_o example_n do_v general_o all_o judicious_a 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that_o which_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n teach_v they_o ordain_v that_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n and_o certain_a other_o of_o they_o shall_v go_v up_o to_o jerusalem_n to_o the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n about_o that_o question_n act._n 15.2_o and_o so_o by_o their_o common_a agreement_n &_o decree_n the_o controversy_n be_v end_v the_o truth_n of_o faith_n keep_v and_o peace_n maintain_v in_o the_o church_n after_o which_o example_n the_o etc._n the_o euseb_n hist_o eccl._n l._n 5._o c._n 14._o &_o 21._o &_o 22._o lib._n 7._o c._n 26._o &_o 28._o cypr._n epist_n 6._o &_o 14_o &_o 31._o &_o 53._o &_o 72._o &_o 75._o council_n ancyr_n gangr_n antioch_n laodic_n etc._n etc._n bishop_n that_o succeed_v they_o make_v the_o like_a assembly_n on_o the_o like_a occasion_n and_o by_o common_a conference_n take_v order_n for_o such_o matter_n both_o of_o doctrine_n and_o discipline_n
allege_v for_o the_o warrant_n of_o this_o combination_n of_o church_n in_o synod_n for_o their_o mutual_a help_n they_o be_v all_o of_o they_o such_o as_o do_v equal_o yea_o and_o primary_o concern_v the_o communion_n and_o society_n of_o several_a person_n and_o member_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n where_o it_o be_v confess_v by_o our_o opposite_n that_o there_o be_v jurisdiction_n as_o well_o as_o counsel_v if_o these_o place_n will_v have_v remove_v jurisdiction_n from_o synod_n and_o condemn_v the_o subjection_n of_o church_n unto_o a_o synod_n then_o will_v they_o also_o have_v do_v the_o like_a for_o particular_a church_n and_o have_v condemn_v the_o subjection_n of_o member_n thereunto_o see_v they_o do_v not_o the_o one_o therefore_o not_o the_o other_o also_o ii_o in_o prosecute_v his_o 2_o argument_n 330.331_o argument_n p._n 330.331_o take_v from_o the_o form_n of_o combination_n which_o be_v consociation_n consist_v in_o a_o mutual_a obligation_n he_o confirm_v it_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o d._n whitaker_n allege_v that_o calvine_n say_v well_o that_o by_o brotherly_a charity_n 448._o cont._n 4._o qu._n 4._o p._n 448._o not_o by_o naked_a authority_n but_o by_o letter_n and_o admonition_n and_o other_o such_o mean_n heretic_n be_v depose_v in_o the_o time_n of_o cyprian_a deposition_n of_o heretic_n be_v a_o act_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o synod_n and_o again_o allege_v mat._n 18._o as_o the_o fountain_n of_o this_o combination_n he_o say_v many_o church_n be_v combine_v after_o the_o same_o manner_n that_o the_o prime_a church_n grow_v together_o into_o one_o body_n in_o their_o member_n and_o therefore_o it_o must_v be_v confess_v that_o as_o mat._n 18._o be_v a_o ground_n of_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n in_o particular_a church_n so_o be_v it_o also_o for_o synod_n iii_o mr_n parker_n for_o confirmation_n of_o his_o 3_o argument_n 331.332_o argument_n p._n 331.332_o take_v from_o the_o matter_n of_o this_o combination_n which_o be_v 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synod_n iv_o in_o the_o explication_n of_o his_o 4_o argument_n 333._o argument_n p._n 332_o 333._o take_v from_o the_o object_n which_o be_v a_o common_a matter_n concern_v all_o or_o many_o church_n he_o allege_v a_o distinction_n 5._o distinction_n conf._n with_o hart._n c._n 8._o d._n 5._o maintain_v by_o d._n rainolds_n betwixt_o question_n of_o the_o church_n require_v knowledge_n only_o and_o cause_n of_o the_o church_n require_v jurisdiction_n also_o for_o the_o judge_n of_o they_o question_n of_o the_o church_n be_v send_v unto_o they_o that_o have_v no_o jurisdiction_n over_o those_o that_o propound_v they_o but_o the_o cause_n of_o the_o church_n not_o so_o they_o in_o africa_n be_v 22._o be_v council_n carthag_n graec._n c._n 2d_o &_o milevita_fw-la c._n 22._o forbid_v to_o appeal_v unto_o they_o beyond_o sea_n viz_o for_o the_o decision_n of_o their_o personal_a cause_n which_o yet_o be_v to_o be_v judge_v by_o the_o synod_n in_o africa_n whereby_o it_o be_v acknowledge_v 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bridle_n order_n man_n but_o in_o the_o place_n allege_v i_o find_v no_o such_o testimony_n as_o be_v mention_v and_o therefore_o the_o three_o first_o answer_n make_v before_o unto_o the_o testimony_n from_o ambrose_n may_v also_o serve_v for_o nazianzen_n and_o further_o that_o gregory_n nazianzen_n do_v not_o limit_v all_o ecclesiastical_a power_n and_o jurisdiction_n unto_o a_o particular_a congregation_n only_o it_o may_v appear_v if_o we_o observe_v i._n how_o 17._o how_o soc._n hist_o ecc._n l._n 4._o c._n 21._o sozom._n hist_o ecc._n l._n 6._o c._n 17._o he_o himself_o be_v make_v bishop_n of_o constantinople_n by_o the_o suffrage_n of_o many_o bishop_n meet_v together_o which_o be_v a_o further_a degree_n of_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n then_o that_o which_o be_v exercise_v in_o the_o class_n or_o synod_n of_o these_o country_n ii_o how_o he_o plead_v clidon_n plead_v nazian_n epist_n 1._o ad_fw-la clidon_n from_o a_o synodall_n law_n touch_v the_o receyve_v of_o those_o that_o be_v fall_v iii_o how_o he_o allow_v the_o order_n of_o convocate_a and_o assemble_v neighbour_n bishop_n about_o the_o create_v of_o a_o new_a bishop_n affirm_v this_o to_o be_v caesarien_n be_v epi._n 30._o ad_fw-la caesarien_n right_a and_o according_a to_o the_o ecclesiastical_a law_n iv_o how_o he_o in_o his_o counsel_n and_o exhortation_n unto_o the_o synod_n at_o constantinope_n 8._o constantinope_n theod._n hist_o eccl._n l._n 5._o c._n 8._o asscribe_v unto_o they_o authority_n and_o power_n for_o his_o own_o dimission_n and_o translation_n for_o the_o set_n of_o another_o unblameable_a bishop_n in_o his_o place_n and_o thereby_o withal_o for_o the_o deposition_n and_o abdication_n of_o maximus_n which_o be_v according_o perform_v that_o which_o may_v with_o more_o colour_n be_v object_v out_o of_o nazianzen_n against_o the_o use_n of_o synod_n and_o which_o be_v also_o allege_a both_o by_o mr_n can_n and_o by_o mr_n davenp_n though_o not_o direct_o against_o the_o 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before_o grosser_n fault_n be_v more_o common_a with_o he_o ii_o as_o for_o the_o testimony_n of_o nazianzen_n the_o answer_n of_o d._n whitaker_n may_v give_v sufficient_a satisfaction_n who_o say_v 15._o say_v de_fw-fr conc_fw-fr qu._n 1._o c._n 3._o p._n 13.14_o 15._o it_o may_v seem_v strange_a that_o nazianzen_n deny_v he_o have_v see_v a_o good_a issue_n of_o any_o synod_n for_o in_o those_o two_o synod_n viz._n of_o nice_a and_o constantinople_n which_o have_v be_v mention_v before_o truth_n get_v the_o victory_n and_o heresy_n be_v put_v down_o and_o though_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o arianisme_n be_v increase_v and_o grow_v strong_a and_o trouble_v the_o church_n after_o the_o synod_n of_o nice_a more_o than_o before_o yet_o that_o be_v not_o to_o be_v impute_v to_o the_o synod_n but_o to_o the_o contention_n and_o ambition_n of_o man_n for_o as_o our_o corrupt_a nature_n do_v more_o vehement_o resist_v the_o know_a law_n of_o god_n and_o rush_v headlong_o unto_o sin_n so_o falsehood_n oppose_v itself_o more_o bold_o unto_o the_o truth_n then_o explain_v and_o open_o defend_v whereupon_o after_o that_o synod_n which_o none_o excel_v great_a incommodity_n do_v arise_v from_o the_o wickedness_n of_o man_n etc._n etc._n when_o nazianz._n see_v so_o wicked_a disposition_n of_o man_n he_o be_v whole_o turn_v from_o counsel_n although_o without_o doubt_n he_o disallow_v not_o the_o thing_n itself_o but_o the_o wicked_a endeavour_n of_o man_n now_o if_o any_o will_v reason_v after_o this_o manner_n the_o issue_n of_o synod_n be_v not_o good_a or_o more_o evil_n follow_v thence_o therefore_o synod_n be_v to_o be_v avoid_v that_o man_n shall_v dispute_v deceitful_o from_o a_o wrong_a cause_n from_o accident_n and_o from_o the_o fallacy_n of_o consequent_a but_o nazianzen_n be_v to_o be_v pardon_v because_o he_o live_v in_o the_o worst_a and_o most_o turbulent_a time_n of_o the_o church_n when_o by_o mean_n of_o valens_n the_o emperor_n that_o degenerate_v from_o the_o catholic_n faith_n heretic_n do_v more_o prevail_v etc._n etc._n again_o he_o oppose_v augustine_n unto_o nazianzene_n and_o say_v it_o be_v most_o true_a which_o augustine_n say_v epist_n 118._o that_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v most_o wholesome_a which_o certain_o he_o will_v not_o have_v say_v if_o he_o have_v be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n with_o nazianzen_n and_o further_o he_o oppose_v unto_o the_o speech_n of_o nazianz._n the_o testimony_n of_o christ_n say_v christ_n himself_o pronounce_v and_o promise_v matt._n 18.20_o where_o two_o or_o three_o be_v assemble_v together_o in_o his_o name_n there_o he_o will_v be_v in_o the_o midst_n of_o they_o in_o which_o word_n he_o signifi_v that_o the_o assembly_n and_o synod_n of_o godly_a and_o religious_a man_n undertake_v and_o appoint_v for_o godly_a cause_n be_v not_o displease_v unto_o he_o iii_o the_o testimony_n of_o nazianzen_n be_v as_o much_o against_o the_o opinion_n of_o mr_n can_n and_o mr_n dau._n as_o against_o that_o which_o we_o hold_v touch_v class_n and_o synod_n for_o see_v they_o allow_v such_o meeting_n for_o counsel_n and_o admonition_n though_o not_o for_o exercise_v of_o any_o jurisdiction_n and_o see_v the_o testimony_n of_o nazian_n do_v extend_v itself_o to_o all_o kind_n of_o assembly_n of_o bishop_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d whether_o for_o counsel_n or_o censure_n without_o exception_n of_o one_o sort_n more_o than_o another_o therefore_o he_o no_o more_o condemn_v our_o synod_n than_o those_o which_o my_o opposite_n allow_v augustine_n his_o next_o witness_n be_v in_o like_a manner_n pervert_v as_o the_o former_a though_o he_o in_o the_o place_n 17._o place_n dedoct_n chr._n l._n 1._o c._n 17._o object_v do_v write_v that_o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n yet_o do_v he_o not_o thereby_o exclude_v synod_n gather_v together_o in_o the_o name_n of_o
man_n of_o sin_n with_o these_o testimony_n of_o ancient_a father_n mr_n can_n allege_v for_o his_o opinion_n that_o some_o counsel_n have_v grant_v so_o much_o and_o christian_a emperor_n by_o their_o law_n confirm_v it_o two_o of_o these_o viz._n the_o council_n of_o nice_a &_o constantinople_n he_o allege_v at_o large_a and_o specifyes_n no_o canon_n which_o he_o intend_v for_o this_o purpose_n and_o as_o for_o the_o 3_o council_n of_o carthage_n whereat_o augustine_n be_v present_a i_o have_v show_v 223._o show_v pa._n 223._o before_o that_o it_o make_v direct_o for_o we_o that_o 22_o canon_n which_o he_o allege_v viz._n 868._o viz._n magdeb._n cent._n 4._o c._n 9_o col_fw-fr 868._o that_o no_o clerk_n be_v or_o dain_v without_o examination_n by_o bishop_n and_o testimony_n of_o the_o people_n impeach_v not_o the_o authority_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n but_o confirm_v the_o order_n establish_v by_o they_o and_o that_o christian_a emperor_n have_v by_o their_o law_n confirm_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n it_o be_v plain_a and_o undeniable_a the_o 2_o the_o sulp._n se._n five_o s._n hist_o l._n 2_o council_n of_o nice_a that_o condemn_a arius_n be_v authorise_v by_o constantine_n the_o great_a the_o 162._o the_o sulp._n s._n hist_o conâ—in_n ex_fw-la sleyd_n p._n 162._o council_n of_o constantinople_n that_o condemn_v macedonius_n be_v authorise_v by_o the_o emperor_n theodosius_n the_o elder_a the_o 164._o the_o p._n 164._o council_n of_o ephesus_n that_o condemn_v nestorius_n be_v authorise_v by_o theodosius_n the_o young_a the_o 170._o the_o p._n 170._o council_n of_o chalcedon_n that_o condemn_v eutyches_n be_v authorise_v by_o the_o emperor_n martianus_n and_o as_o it_o be_v in_o these_o first_o general_n counsel_n so_o may_v it_o be_v observe_v in_o many_o other_o instead_o of_o the_o rest_n let_v the_o just_a the_o codex_fw-la canon_n ecc._n uniu._n edit_n christ_n just_a book_n of_o canon_n suffice_v confirm_v by_o justinian_n the_o emperor_n there_o be_v contain_v in_o that_o book_n many_o canon_n which_o ordain_v that_o the_o cause_n of_o particular_a church_n shall_v be_v 85._o be_v can._n 5_o 80_o 83_o 85._o judge_v by_o synod_n and_o so_o decide_v by_o another_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o at_o the_o end_n of_o these_o canon_n there_o be_v add_v the_o sanction_n or_o decree_n of_o justinian_n 131._o justinian_n novella_n consti_fw-la just_a imper._n 131._o by_o which_o he_o do_v not_o only_o allow_v they_o and_o give_v force_n of_o law_n unto_o they_o but_o with_o a_o excessive_a &_o far_o great_a honour_n than_o be_v due_a unto_o they_o will_v have_v the_o four_o ecumenical_a counsel_n to_o be_v receive_v even_o as_o the_o holy_a scripture_n now_o though_o he_o offend_v great_o in_o this_o his_o esteem_n of_o they_o yet_o this_o may_v serve_v to_o show_v what_o little_a reason_n mr_n can_n have_v to_o allege_v the_o decree_n of_o counsel_n for_o his_o opinion_n sect_n vii_o touch_v the_o testimony_n of_o reform_a church_n from_o ancient_a time_n they_o come_v back_o to_o the_o late_a time_n of_o reformation_n and_o say_v 91._o say_v ch._n pl._n p._n 91._o touch_v reform_a church_n if_o we_o may_v take_v the_o confession_n of_o their_o faith_n for_o testimony_n then_o sure_o we_o have_v their_o consent_n also_o with_o we_o the_o church_n consent_v with_o they_o as_o they_o vain_o imagine_v be_v these_o according_a to_o their_o order_n in_o allege_v of_o they_o the_o bohemian_a church_n church_n under_o the_o palsgrave_n the_o helvetian_a church_n the_o french_a church_n church_n of_o the_o auspurge_n confession_n of_o the_o low-countries_n of_o nasovia_n but_o the_o truth_n be_v both_o these_o and_o other_o reform_a church_n do_v condemn_v my_o oppisite_n in_o allow_v of_o synod_n to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o particular_a congregation_n the_o confession_n of_o the_o bohemian_a church_n say_v they_o have_v these_o word_n 14._o word_n harm_n conf._n c._n 14._o the_o key_n that_o be_v ecclesiastical_a government_n be_v give_v in_o trust_n and_o grant_v to_o the_o pastor_n and_o to_o each_o several_a ecclesiastical_a society_n that_o be_v ordinary_a congregation_n whether_o they_o be_v small_a or_o great_a i_o answer_v i._n this_o testimony_n be_v clip_v by_o mr_n can_n who_o leave_v out_o the_o word_n of_o order_n which_o show_v their_o opinion_n touch_v the_o original_n and_o derivation_n of_o this_o power_n the_o word_n of_o this_o bohemian_a confession_n be_v that_o the_o key_n of_o the_o lord_n or_o this_o administration_n and_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v grant_v and_o deliver_v first_o unto_o the_o governor_n and_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n and_o then_o unto_o every_o christian_a congregation_n etc._n etc._n therein_o they_o do_v not_o consent_v with_o mr_n can_n but_o with_o the_o opinion_n of_o mr_n baines_n note_v 115._o note_v p._n 114_o 115._o before_o and_o they_o do_v there_o also_o apply_v these_o word_n unto_o absolution_n give_v by_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o church_n as_o they_o call_v he_o to_o this_o end_n they_o allege_v those_o place_n joh._n 20.23_o &_o luk._n 10.16_o their_o meaning_n be_v declare_v more_o full_o before_o where_o they_o 1612._o they_o harmo_n confess_v art_n 5._o de_fw-la poenit._fw-la p._n 241._o edit_n 1612._o teach_v that_o the_o penitent_a be_v to_o come_v unto_o the_o priest_n and_o to_o confess_v their_o sin_n unto_o god_n before_o he_o etc._n etc._n and_o to_o desire_v absolution_n of_o he_o by_o the_o key_n of_o the_o church_n that_o they_o may_v obtain_v remission_n of_o sin_n by_o such_o a_o ministry_n so_o institute_v of_o christ._n this_o order_n seem_v to_o agree_v with_o that_o form_n of_o absolution_n describe_v and_o appoint_v in_o the_o english_a book_n of_o common_a prayer_n at_o the_o visitation_n of_o the_o sick_a 11._o it_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o picard_n so_o call_v in_o bohemia_n and_o moravia_n in_o the_o 219._o the_o p._n 219._o preface_n to_o the_o forementioned_a confession_n of_o their_o faith_n that_o their_o father_n have_v appeal_v unto_o a_o synod_n etc._n etc._n where_o if_o any_o thing_n shall_v be_v find_v dissonant_n from_o the_o scripture_n they_o be_v willing_a from_o the_o heart_n and_o love_o to_o be_v subject_a and_o obedient_a to_o the_o censure_n and_o appointment_n of_o the_o synod_n in_o all_o thing_n this_o show_v their_o dissent_n from_o mr_n can_n and_o his_o people_n iii_o the_o combination_n of_o the_o christian_a and_o orthodox_n church_n in_o bohemia_n and_o moravia_n call_v by_o themselves_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o brethren_n in_o bohemia_n do_v give_v a_o clear_a testimony_n unto_o the_o truth_n touch_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n for_o the_o government_n of_o particular_a church_n and_o judgement_n of_o their_o cause_n by_o a_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o as_o appear_v in_o the_o book_n of_o their_o discipline_n where_o they_o 38._o they_o ratio_fw-la discip_n ordinisq_fw-la ecc._n in_o unitate_fw-la frat_fw-la bohem._n c._n 2._o p._n 33.34_o &_o 38._o profess_v that_o for_o weighty_a cause_n in_o provide_v for_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o whole_a unity_n or_o some_o diocese_n therein_o they_o use_v to_o hold_v synod_n either_o general_n or_o particular_a etc._n etc._n they_o allege_v these_o 5_o end_n to_o confirm_v brotherly_a love_n and_o concord_n to_o strengthen_v they_o in_o the_o work_n of_o the_o lord_n to_o preserve_v the_o vigour_n of_o discipline_n to_o exclude_v scandalous_a person_n out_o of_o the_o number_n of_o their_o minister_n etc._n etc._n to_o ordain_v minister_n etc._n etc._n and_o for_o the_o 41._o the_o ib._n p._n 41._o examination_n of_o minister_n before_o they_o be_v confirm_v the_o exercise_n of_o this_o authority_n be_v also_o declare_v in_o their_o etc._n their_o ib._n cap._n 6._o p._n 87_o 88_o etc._n etc._n visitation_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v in_o 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31._o article_n of_o the_o belgic_a confession_n which_o be_v point_a at_o have_v nothing_o that_o serve_v their_o turn_n against_o i_o neither_o do_v they_o show_v what_o clause_n therein_o they_o intend_v for_o their_o purpose_n and_o what_o seem_v most_o to_o accord_n with_o their_o former_a allegation_n i_o have_v answer_v before_o but_o for_o the_o synod_n of_o these_o country_n whereas_o mr_n c._n say_v 91.92_o say_v ch._n pl._n p._n 91.92_o what_o those_o synod_n be_v of_o who_o mr_n paget_n speak_v in_o pag._n 66._o who_o decree_v that_o particular_a congregation_n shall_v not_o practice_v among_o themselves_o all_o god_n ordinance_n i_o do_v not_o yet_o know_v but_o this_o i_o know_v that_o no_o reform_a church_n have_v make_v this_o a_o article_n of_o their_o faith_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v certain_a if_o such_o a_o thing_n be_v it_o be_v only_o the_o invention_n of_o some_o particular_a man_n it_o be_v here_o to_o be_v observe_v 1._o that_o mr_n can_n falsify_v my_o 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