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A90063 Irenicum; or, An essay towards a brotherly peace & union, between those of the congregational and presbyterian way; shewing out of the most learned and renowned divines of the congregational way, that their positions concerning 1. Church matters and members. 2. Church constitution and form. 3. Church state. 4. Church officers and ordination. 5. Church government and censures. 6. Church combinations and synods. 7. Communion with and separation from churches. are sufficient for the establishing a firme and lasting peace between them and the Presbyterians ... In pursuance of the good design begun at the Savoy, where it was agreed, and declared, that such reforming churches as consist of persons sound in the faith, and of conversation becoming the Gospel, ought not to refuse the communion of each other ... Drawn up and published by Discipulus de Tempore Junior. Newcomen, Matthew, 1610?-1669.; D. T. 1659 (1659) Wing N910; Thomason E978_1; ESTC R202985 58,516 89

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line 38. Quest 8. But is not mens consent to and acceptance of the covenant necessary to the bringing them into covenant Answ Gods appointment makes a covenant whether the creature assent to the agreement or no. Mr. Cotton of infant baptisme pag. 64. line 35. Quest 9. But yet men must have faith before they can be in covenant must they not Answ The children of the faithful are not first converted and so come under the Covenant but first under the Covenant and so come to be converted Mr. Cotton of Infant Bapt. page 29. line 7. God did establish his Covenant with Isaac Gen. 17.21 yet it doth not appear that Isaac had any faith then much lesse was it visible Idem page 33. line penultima The Apostle expounds the Covenant as given not only to them who are converted and so brought on to believe but to them who yet want faith and conversion Acts 3.25 26. Mr. Cotton of Infant Bapt. page 34. line 16. Quest 10. But is not the admitting of such who have no true faith nor saving grace to be Church-Members and to have right to the Covenant is it not a dishonour to God and Jesus Christ Doth it not make Christ the head of an heterogeneal body and to have members unsutable to himself a living head and dead members surely Christ will admit of no such members Will any man admit of dead branches to be set in his Vineyard Answ 1. It is true the Church which is the mystical body of Christ ought to be sutable to Christ her head and so she is many times but not alwayes every Member yea very seldome every Member if at any time Mr. Cotton of Infant Bapt. page 102. line 36. It is utterly untrue to say that Christ admits not of any dead Plants to be set in his Vineyard or that he takes not to himself a compounded body of living and dead Members or that the Church of God is not a mixed company c. Ibid. line 14. 2. Though no man will admit of dead Plants to be set in his Vineyard or grafted in his stock yet many Plants that are grafted and set may prove dead Men indeed will not admit dead Plants to be grafted or set because they know not what to do with them when they are dead But if dead Plants after they are grafted would grow either to be fruitful or if not fruitful good fire-wood it would be no bad husbandry to set and graft dead Plants And so it is here God thinks it no bad husbandry in him to admit dead Plants to be set and grow in his Vineyard and if they grow fruitful well if not to tolerate them there till they grow up to fulfill their iniquity as he did the Jews Matth. 23.32 because he knows then how to illustrate the glory of his justice in casting them into the fire of hell John 15.6 Matth. 3.10 Idem page 101. line 31. 3. Dead persons if in Covenant are alive to God Luke 20.77 38. And though a twig cannot receive life from the stock unlesse it bring life with it before it be engraffed yet Christ can give life to dead branches that are put to him as well as the dead Corps of Elisha could give life to the dead man cast into his grave 2 Kings 13.21 Idem page 150. line 13 c. Quest 11. But will Christ being spiritual endure a natural wife Answ To say he will not were to charge Christ himself with folly and with indignity offered to himself that he being spiritual should take so many thousand Infants into Covenant with him who for the most part are natural for one that is born of the Spirit there are twenty born of the flesh Mr. Cotton of Infant Bapt. page 160. line 14. Besides though Christ by taking a company to be a Church unto himself doth enter into a Marriage-Covenant with them yet not into Marriage-Covenant with each Member at first Ibid. line 20. Quest 12. May any man be admitted a Member of the Church but upon profession of his faith Answ Profession of faith and repentance is required from Converts of grown years whether Jews or Pagans Mr. Cotton of Infant Bapt. page 154. line 12. But as for those that are born within the Church and have been baptized in their infancy Baptisme is a Sacrament sealing unto them as other spiritual benefits so their initiation into Church-membership Mr. Cotton Holinesse of Church Members page 96. line 27. Quest 13. But seeing some are to be admitted upon profession of faith and you said before that a man may be a Church Member and in Covenant that hath but a temporary or historical faith if you put such a man upon the profession of his faith do you not cause him to dissemble and lye and play the hypocrite Answ True or false profession may be attended either in respect of the doctrine of faith professe● or in respect of the grace of faith professing it if the profession of the doctrine of faith be true though the grace of fa●th in the profe ●or of it be uncertain Or it may be hypocritical and false yet we dare not deny the nature and power of a Church to such As the Church judgeth not of hidden crimes so neither doth the faithful Judge of the Churches by their hidden hypocrisie but by their open scandals in doctrine or life God would have his people live without anxious perplexity as in marriage 1 Cor. 7.32 so in every society It were an inextricable perplexity to suspend the essence and validity of Churches and Church Administrations upon the hidden sincerity of Churches and Church-Officers or Members Mr. Cottons way of the Churches cleared part 2. page 40. line 20. Doctor Ames makes it most probable that there is no particular Church wherein the profession of the true faith doth take place but there are some found that are true believers in the same place Ibid. page 91. line 2. Quest 14. But is it not a dangerous thing to account wicked men and hypocrites Church Members and in Covenant Doth it not harden them in their sinnes and make them promise themselves life in the way they are in and keep them from returning from their evil wayes Answ We do not promise life to any by the Covenant unlesse they be Elect and because though they be Elect yet that is unknown to them and till they repent and believe we tell them they cannot partake in the saving benefits of the Covenant till they be regenerate and quickned by the Spirit as Christ told Nicodemus Mr. Cotton of Infant Bapt. page 33. line 25. Quest 15. But God approves and receives none but believers Heb. 11.6 Without faith k is impossible to please God and how can the Church approve or receive any whom God doth not approve and receive Answ 1. That text Heb. 11.6 shews that no man can be accepted of God without faith but not that God cannot receive any into outward fellowship of the Covenant without
of the Church at the Lords Table Mr. Cotton of infant baptism pag. 134. line 12. And this he speaks of as the perfection of the New Hierusalem Hitherto of Church-state now to draw some brief positions and inferences from these particulars 1. The faithful Congregations of England are true Churches of Christ See chap. 3. answer to the first question Therefore not to be departed from nor their communion to be desipised 2. Where Word and Sacraments are duly administred there is a faithful Congregation a true Church See Chap. 3. quest 2. answer the first Therefore such a Congregation may challenge from every member of it what ever duty is owing to any Church of Christ 3. The essence of a true Church is preserved though there be found in it some hypocries and some notoriously scandalous both in judgement and practice See chapter 3. quest 2. answ 4. 4. Though all the members of a particular Church should make but an ignorant hypocritical verbal profession of Christ and faith in him yet there remains not onely the name but the nature of a Church so far that the actions thereof are not null See chap. 3. quest 2. answ 5. Therefore quere whether there be any Congregation in England so ignorant or scandalous as not to be capable of the name and nature of a Church according to this position 5. Promises made to the visible Church are made to it for the sake of the elect that are therein See chap. 3. answ 11. quest 3. 6. God allows none tote cast out of his Church but for obstinacy and heinous crimes against the light of nature See chap. 3. answer to question 4. 7. Such as were baptized in their infancy as they are not to be received to full communion till they make profession of faith and repentance so neither are they to be rejected but suffered to enjoy many priviledges in the Church as Church-watch c. for their healing and amendment chap. 3. quest 5. Therefore the more injurious they who cast off some hundreds of baptized ones in their congregtions and surfer neither them nor their children to enjoy any more Church-privileges than meer Turkes or Heathens CHAP. IV. Of Church-officers and their Ordination Question 1. WHat need is there of Officers in the Church of Christ Answ Though Officers be not necessary to the simple being of Churches when they be called Platforme of Discipline from N. E. yet ordinarily to their calling they are and to their well-being and therefore the Lord Jesus out of his tender compassion hath appointed and ordained officers which he would not have done if they had not been useful and needful for the Church Platform of discipline from New England chap. 6. sect 2. Quest 2. What officers then hath Christ appointed and ordained in the Church Answ These officers were either extraordinary or ordinary extraordinary as Apostles Prophets and Evangelists or ordinary as Elders and Deacons Platform of discipline chap. 6. sect 3. Quest 3. How many sorts of Elders hath Christ appointed in his Church Answ Of Elders who are also in Scripture called Bishops there are two sorts Platforme of Discipline from N. E. some attend chiefly to the Ministry of the Word as the Pastors and Teachers others attend especially unto rule who are therefore called ruling-Elders Platform of discipline Chap. 6. sect 4. Quest 4. Have the Pastor and Teacher a like power in the Ministry of the Word Answ They are alike charged with the preaching of the Word Platforme of Discipline from N. E. and the application thereof and either of them to administer the seals of the covenant unto the dispensation whereof they are alike called as also to execute the censures being a kind of application of the Word Platform of discipline chap. 6. sect 5. Quest 5. Is there any such thing as an outward call necessary to the constituting of a Pastor or Teacher Mr. Hooker Answ 1. It is a standing and a staple rule No man taketh this honour to himself Mr. Hooker but he that is called is Aaron Heb. 5.9 Mr. Hookers Surney of discipline part 2. pag. 42. line 33. 2. Without this call none can warrantably do any act that belongs to any officer Ibid. pag. 45. line 28. 3. Without this whatever is done in that behalf is void and of none effect Ibid. line 30. Quest 6. May none then preach the Word and administer the Sacraments in the Church but the Pastor or Teachers Mr. Cotton Answ We are far from allowing that sacrilegious usurpation of the Ministers office which we hear of to our grief to be practised in some places that private Christians ordinarily take upon them to preach the Gospel publickly and to minister the Sacraments Mr. Cotton of the Keys pag. 6. line 33. It is a frenzy of the Anabaptists that begins to labour with the loathsomnesse of it self that any Christian gifted who can teach or minister a word of instruction to win a Disciple after him that he in a corner may baptize him also whom he hath won to his opinion But as Paul said of Jannes and Jambres their madnesse is made appear to all who are not willing to shut their eyes against the Sunne when it shines in its beauty For if the Lord Christ in his infinite wisdome and Kingly care conceived it necessary for the honour of the place and the execution of the work of the Deacon to appoint choice men and solemn ordination to authorize them to the work that they being called and fitted to the work might be accepted therein of the people and blessed of him who did appoint them to the employment In reason what greater need is there that persons who are peculiarly gifted and furnished with grace and abitity should be called to this work of preaching and dispensing these holy mysteries a service above all other of greatest weight and worth Adde hereunto that the Apostle as by a flaming Sword doth stop the way to all pretenders and therefore layes in this prohibition No man taketh this honour to himself but he that is called of God as Aaron he must have a special call from God who must dare to meddle with a service which is of such peculiar eminence in the house of God yea the Lord himself doth appropriate this and that to some persons whom he puts in place He gave some to be Pastors and Teachers Ephes 4.11 Are all Apostles are all Governours are all Teachers 1 Cor. 12.29 This would bring confusion and so destruction to the whole Mr. Hookers Survey of Discipline part 3. pag. 9. line 8 c. and part 2. page 42. line 23. Object 1. But doth not the Apostle 1 Cor. 14.31 say you may all prophesie one by one that all may learn and all may be comforted Answ 1. That place in the Corniths doth not speak of ordinary private members Mr. Cotton but of men furnished with extraordinary gifts the Members of the Church of Corinth as
IRENICVM OR AN ESSAY Towards a Brotherly PEACE VNION Between those of the Congregational And Presbyterian Way Shewing out of the most Learned and Renowned Divines of the Congregational Way that their Positions Concerning 1. Church Matters and Members 2. Church Constitution and Form 3. Church State 4. Church Officers and Ordination 5. Church Government and Censures 6. Church Combinations and Synods 7. Communion with and Separation from Churches Are sufficient for the establishing a firme and lasting Peace between them and the Presbyterians Drawn up and published by Discipulus De Tempore Junior In pursuance of the good design begun at the Savoy where it was agreed and declared That such Reforming Churches as consist of Persons sound in the Faith and of Conversation becoming the Gospel ought not to refuse the communion of each other so far as may consist With their own principles respectively though they walk not in all things according to the same Rules of Church Order Canon 29. London Printed for Nathanael Webb and William-Grantham at the black Bear in Pauls Church-yard near the little North-door 1659. THE Preface BUt who would write Irenicums seeing they who attempt it reap usually no other fruit then he who running in between two men that are a fighting with an honest intent to part them and make them friends brings both their fists about his own ears or turns both their swords into his own bosome and maketh them both his enemies at least the prevailing party and he that thinks he hath the better of the cause will take it exceedingly ill as the Lutherans do Pareus his Irenicum which some of them call 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and the Scotch non Conformists the Irenicum of their Country man Forbes The consideration of this made the Collector of these Papers though often sollicited with thoughts of that he hath now attempted to lay them by till being a little awakened first with the report of some thing towards an accommodation of dissenting parties endeavoured and as they say effected in Cumberland and Westmerland and in other Counties and with an expectation of some thing that was agreed by the Congregational way in their meeting at the Savoy that might conduce to that end he judged it now seasonable to present these Papers to publike view that he might suum conferre symbolum If this may procure a right understanding and composing of the differences between brethren the Collector hath his desire and reward if it fail and miss that end yet he hopes his reward is with the Lord having this testimony in his own conscience that in singleness of heart he hath managed this cause not knowingly or willingly falsifyng and wresting the words of those reverend men whom he cites from which crime if his own protestation be not enough to clear him thou shalt by and by Reader have the deposition of two sufficient witnesses If thou wilt not believe them neither get the Books and trust thine own eyes If any say these authors elsewhere express themselves otherwise all that I answer is that my design and work was not to reconcile them to themselves but if I could to their Presbyterian Brethren which how far it is done read but read with understanding and without prejudice and then judge Thine in the Lord D. T. The Attestation WE have examined all the several Quotations here alledged by the Books out of which they were taken and finde them to be punctually and syllabically true and that there is no falsification nor violation of them and this we being persons no wayes interested in the controversies between the Presbyterian and Congregational Brethren nor engaged to either Party Testifie under our hands L. K. R. N. To the Judicious Reader AMongst the manifold divisions both in Church and State whereby England hath been and still is damnified and endangered the doleful differences betwixt Presbyterians and Independants are not the least nor least lamented by gracious hearts as in other respects so because the loud noise thereof both from the Pulpit and the Press doth cause their adversaries sinfully to rejoyce 2 Sam. 1.20 In this regard the Popish the prophane and Prelatical party do encourage their hopes that the good work of Covenanted Church-Reformation in England Scotland and Ireland will ere long wither and come to nothing True it is that as neither kingdom nor house so no other society divided against it self can stand Mark 3.24 25. for division maketh way for dissipation Gen. 49.7 Upon this account in pursuance of that Machivilian Maxim Divide impera the Jesuited Papist and the self-seeking Statist do vigorously endeavor to maintain and encrease our divisions in matters of Religion at this day errors and contentions which are like tares hindring the growth of grace amongst Christians Mat. 13.23 are sowed by the Divel their implacable enemy And it is an expression of great displeasure from the Lord when the evil spirit is sent or suffered so far to prevail upon them which should be one in mutual amity that they in passion deal treacherously one with another Judg. 9.23 As it cannot be denyed but that animosities causing sad separations may be found amongst good men For the contention between Paul and Barnabas was so sharpe that they departed asunder one from the other so experience amongst our selves confirmeth Act. 15.39 what Solomon long since asserted A brother offended is harder to win than a strong City and their contentions are like the bars of a Palace In the late Assembly of Divines called together by Authority of Parliament many hours yea days were run up in serious debates that the Presbyterians and their dissenting brethren might be reconciled in matters of Church discipline And since that time many books have been publish't by godly Ministers of both perswasions to drive on that good design but the end intended hath not hitherto been accomplisht Now the good hand of the Almighty the God of Peace hath stirred up the heart of a faithful and able Minister of the Gospel whose name would adde authority to this work though he see cause to conceal it in a new way to attempt a brotherly agreement His design is to stitch up our rents and to heal our breaches by discovering the concessions and positions of the chief Patrons of the Congregational way that in reference to Church constitution of members and officers and in reference to Church administrations by Classes and Synods there is not so great opposition betwixt the Presbyterians and them as the Independent Brethren here amongst us do pretend and publish And let the indifferent Reader who is not byassed with prejudice and partiality judge whether there be not much ingenuity with meeknesse of wisdom and solidity of judgement in the Narrative and inferences herein tendred without any unbrotherly reflections or bitter exasperations The whole Treatise both in regard of the matter and manner of managing it speaketh the Author to be a man of
Peace That this his undertaking might be the more successeful he produceth and improveth the judgement of those Divines onely whose parts and piety have rendred them eminent who also have published to the world their apprehensions in this Controversie viz. Mr. Cotton Mr. Hooker Mr. Norton Mr. Shepherd together with the Platform of Church-Government in N. Engl. which was attested by all the Elders convened in a National Assembly there and because the names of Mr. Cotton and Mr. Hooker are superlatively famous in the Churches of Christ therefore their judgement is most frequently insisted upon During their abode in old England they were of one mind heart and way with the good old Non conformists who were real Presbyterians so far as the Brethren of their most intimate acquaintance did conceive and it is strongly believed that they would not have left their native Country for conscience sake in case they might have been freed from the unsupportable yoak of Episcopal subscription and conformity whereof this may be a probable evidence that very few if any Non-conformists of special note who stayed in England ever turned Independents As for the most if not all of our English Independents they did at once step over the heads of Non-conformists from conformity unto Independency or as reverend Mr. Ball was wont with dislike to express it they did at one jump leap out of the Surplice and Church Assemblies also Our brethren of the Savoy Assembly are too lavish in nominating some worthy men as favorites of their cause for no other reason yet appearing but because they were known Non-conformists Dr. Reynolds by appearing at the Hampton-court conference discovered himself a friend unto Non-conformity but he was ever opposite to them who made a Schism in or from the Church of England Dr. Chadderton also a known Non-conformist did dislike separation from the Church of England Dr. Whittaker and Mr. Perkins also were of his judgement And it would be no hard task to undertake the nomination of many Non-conformists who publikely in print have witnessed their hearty dislike of all wayes of separation from the Congregations in England notwithstanding the sinful mixtures in them vid. Mr. Cartwright Mr. Travers Mr. Hildersam Master Dorrel Master Bradshaw Master * Vide Mr. Balls answer to Mr. Cans book intituled Necessity of Separation from Non-conformists groun●s Ball and Mr. Rathband Mr. Hildersam did much grieve when he understood that the Brethren in New England did depart from the Presbyterian Government and he said This mischief had been prevented if my counsel at Mr. Higginsons going over had been taken which was that brethren driven thither by Episcopal persecution should agree upon the Church Government before they depart from hence And it is well known that many Presbyterian non-conformists did by a letter sent unto New England bewaile their departing in practice as they heard from the way of Church government which they owned here As heretofore Mr. Parker Mr. Knew-stubs Mr. Udall Mr. Sherwood Mr. Fen Mr. Egerton Mr. Balmford Mr. Baines Mr. Foord and the many scores suspended in Q. Eliz. and K. James's reign so of later times Mr. Dod Mr. Cleaver Mr. Wight Mr. Bourne Mr. Pierson as also Mr. Hinde Mr. Nicolds Mr. Langley whom Bishop Morton mentioneth in his Defence of Ceremonies as Non-conformists Were Presbyterians and utterly against even Semi-separation Unto these might be added Mr. John Paget Mr. Pot Ministers of the Reformed English Church at Amsterdam and Mr. Hering with Mr. Thomas Paget their Successors The godly Ministers of Scotland are generally Non-conformists but the world knoweth that they are Antagonists to Independency And is it not probable that if Mr. Cotton and Mr. Hooker had stayed in their Native Countrey they would not have been at such a distance from Church-fellowship with their Presbyterian Brethren as old England Independents are For doubtless their conscientious tendernesse would have wrought them to practices answerable unto their judgement held forth in this book These two Worthies all their life long were studious and laborious in the Work of the Ministry they were Patterns of Humility Meeknesse Love self-denial and all pious practices in their Families Relations and whole Conversation By them Gods Ordinances publickly Administred were highly prized constantly frequented and the Sabbath strictly observed as holy to the Lord. They neither covetously nor vain-gloriously sought great things in the world by ingrossing places of Honor command and profit for themselvs The life of faith and the power of godlinesse shined most gloriously in them all their dayes and how few in old England who boast of these Worthies as their Predecessors in wayes of Independency do merit such a character of commendation let them determin who are best acquainted with their conversation in their several stations and capacities And when this book hath been seriously perused let the Judicious Reader give sentence whether in their Church-administrations they be not so unlike unto them that they must either disclaim their Patronage or change their present practices It is a high commendation given of learned Mr. Calvine that in his Institutions Commentaries and other works he doth sibi constare always agree with himself whereas many others especially such who are much versed in Polemical debates do often cross shins with themselves through inconsiderateness or forgetfulness This is not spoken to cast reproach upon any good man but to give an Item unto all wisely to weigh what they Puhlish and what they Practice The Peace-makers are blessed but those that sowe discord amongst brethren are an abomination to the Lord. M●● 5.9 Prov. 6.19 The wisdom which is from above is first pure then peaceable gentle easie to be intreated Therefore follow peace and holinesse L●● 3.17 Love the truth and peace Consider what is said Heb. 12.14 ●ath 8.19 and what may be suggested in this ensuing Treatise and the Lord give a right understanding in all things An Advertisement to the READER LEt the Reader take notice that these words in the second line of the fourth page Nations holy by Covenant therefore Churches and these words in the fifteenth line of the same page and according to this sense may we not say Saint Saul Saint Demas Saint Judas and that a Church made up of such as these is a Church of Saints Both these sentences should have been put in the margent being not the words of the Reverend Author there cited but Observations which the Collector conceived he might justly make upon his words IRENICVM OR AN ESSAY Towards a Brotherly PEACE and UNION CHAP. I. Of the matter of a Church under the New Testament and who are fit to be Church-members Question I. WHat is the matter of a Church now in the New Testament Answ The Church of the Old Testament consisted of no other matter than of such as professed the faith of the God of Israel and of their seed and the Church of the New Testament consisteth of the like Mr.
Cotton of Infant Baptism page 132. line 11 12. Quest 2. Who then may be admitted or accounted members of the Church in the New Testament and who not Answ The ignorant persons that are grosly ignorant of the first principles and foundations of Religion are not to be received members into the Church or if born in the Church yet so continuing in their ignorance to their ripe age are not to be confirmed members That is they are not to be admitted to the seal of the Lords Supper and so are not to be admitted to other rights of a Church-member as election of officers admission of members censure of offenders c. Mr. Cotton Holiness of Church-members pag. 19. line 32. 2. Atheists Witches Papists and all Hereticks who either deny the faith or profess a false faith against the foundation of Christian Religion they are not to be received members into the Church without reformation and repentance Pag. 20. l. 4. 3. Notorious persons scandalous for any gross crime as Idolatry Adultery Fornication Drunkenness Oppression Perjury Profaneness Lying are not to be received into the Church or not continued in it Ibi. pag. 20. line 11. Quest 3. Yea but if a man be not tru●ly converted and regenerate is not that enough to make him uncapable of Church-membership though he b● neither grosly ignorant nor notoriously scandalous Answ Irregeneration alone doth not keep any from Church fellowship Mr. Cotton unless it be accompanied with such fruits as are openly scandalous and do convincingly manifest unregeneration as gross ignorance palpable hypocrisie or such like spiritual wickednesses Mr. Cotton Holiness of Church-members p. 92. line 35. And therefore though it be comfortable and desireable in the admission of members into the Church when the whole Church and all the members thereof are satisfied in the sincerity of the regeneration of such who are to be received especially in the first planting or gathering of Churches yet neither in judgement nor in practice do we suspend their admission till we be convinced in our consciences of the certain and unfallible signes of their regeneration Mr. Cotton holinesse of Church members p. 2. line ult And as for that the Members should at several times in several companies repair to those that are to be admitted to examine the time and manner of their conversion I am afraid it is a presumed kind of liberty which wants precept and example for any thing that ever appeared to me in the Scripture Mr. Hooker Survey of Discipline part 3. page 5. Object 1. But is it not said John 3.3 5. except a man be born again of water and of the Holy Ghost he cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven therefore he cannot be admitted into the Church for that is the kingdom of heaven except he be regenerate Answ By the kingdom of heaven there is meant not the Church of God but the state of glory Mr. Cotton of Infant Baptism pag. 139. line 2. Object 2. But it is spoken of the new Hierusalem Rev. 21.27 which is the Gospel-Church that no unclean thing shall enter thereinto therefore no unregenerate person ought to be admitted into the Church Answ That text is a part of the description of the pure Church of the Jews after their last conversion called the new Hierusalem by the condition of such Proselites as from among the Nations shall enter into fellowship with them they shall not be prophane persons corrupters and defilers of others nor makers of images which are abominations and lyes and that the description agreeth to infants though unregenerate as well as to others Mr. Cotton of Infant bapt p. 133. l. 24. Quest 4. But is there not more required to Church-membership then that a man be neither ignorant nor scandalous Is there not positive holinesse required why else are the members of the Churches in the New Testament so frequently called Saints Answ Saints by external calling as distinct from Saints by internal calling are the true matter of the visible Church Mr. Hookers Survey of discipline part 1. pag. 21. line 28. Quest 5. Who then are Saints by external calling Answ There are three sorts of holiness one by imputation from Christ a second by regeneration from the spirit a third by separation to God and his worship and to participation of the Ordinances through the Covenant many enjoy this last holiness though they do not enjoy the two former Mr. Cotton of infant baptisme p. 125. line 1. And they may be holy by covenant who are not yet holy by the spirit of regeneration Ibid. pag. 67. line 30. and they w ho believe with temporary or historical faith onely may be holy by covenant Ibid. line 28. And the covenant of grace is holy because it gives right to holy priviledges and denominates them holy whether persons families or Nations nations holy by covenant therefore Churches those whom God calls to such covenant with himself Mr. Cotton of infant bapt for it separates them from other people and sets them apart to the Lord and his holy worship as it is Deut. 7.6 7 8. Ibid. pag. 111. line 11. Quest 6. But can any be said to be in or belong unto the covenant of grace but those that are in the state of grace Answ There is a twofold state of grace one adherent which some not unfitly call federal grace sanctifying to the purifying of the flesh Heb 9.13 the other inherent sanctifying the inward man And of this there are two sorts one whereby persons in covenant are sanctifyed by common graces which makes them serviceable and useful in their callings as Judas Demas and such like hypocrites and according to this fence may we not say Saint Saul Saint Demas Saint Judas and that the Church made up of such as these is a Church of Saints The other whereby persons in covenant are sanctified unto union and communion with Christ Mr. Cotton of infant baptisme p. 43. l. 16. Now though all that are in the Church be not sanctified and in the state of grace in this last and strictest fence yet in the two former they may Quest 7. But seeing faith is the condition of the covenant are not all who believe not excluded from the covenant and must they not first come to faith before they can come to the Covenant Answ 1. There is no place proves all are excluded from the outward dispensation of the Covenant but Believers onely Mr. Cotton of infant baptism p. 58. l. 12. If the covenant were onely to them that believe then the faith whereby we believe is not given to any by the covenant Ibid. p. 62. l. 3. If the Church consists onely of real Saints then real sanctifying grace is never given to any in the Churchy but alwayes in the world 2. It is not first faith and then to the covenant but first the covenant and then faith written and wrought in the heart by the spirit to fulfill the covenant Mr. Cotton f infant baptisme page 54.
faith Mr. Cotton of Infant Baptisme page 57. line 31. 2. God may approve a man to be admitted into the Covenant whose person he approves not Mr. Cotton Infant Bapt. page 66. line 39. 3. For it is one thing for the Word of God to approve men to be in Covenant another thing to approve them in the Covenant God he did never approve Saul nor Jehu in their Kingdome yet he approved both should be admitted to their Kingdome Mr. Cotton of Infant Bapt. page 68. line 19. Object But is it not said John 4. that God seeketh such to worship him as worship him in Spirit and truth therefore none but such may be admitted to the Ordinances of God And is it not said Acts 2.47 the Lord added to the Church daily such as should be saved or saved men as some translate it therefore none but such as are in the state of grace and salvation should be added to the Church Answ It is said God seeketh such to worship him as worship him in Spirit and in truth but it is not said God findeth such in every Church Mr. Cotton of Infant Baptisme page 103. line 35. Much lesse none but such 2. It is said Acts 2. The Lord added to the Church daily such as should be saved but it is not said he added none other Were not Ananias and Sapphyra added to the Church and Simon Magus also who yet for ought appears were none of them saved Mr. Cotton of Infant Bapt. page 67. line 35. Object But as none invisibly before God are by him approved at all to have right to any priviledges of grace but only as he looketh upon them in his Sonne No more are there any before man visibly to be approved of so as to have right to the same but as they appear to be in Christ by some effect of faith declaring the same Answ If you mean by grace saving grace it is true none have right to any priviledge of saving grace Mr. Cotton but as God looks at them in his Son either by faith or by election unto faith if you mean by grace the outward dispensation of the covenant of grace and of the seal thereof it is true none have right to any priviledge of the covenant or the seal of it but as they are in Christ either by faith or by election unto faith or by the fellowship with the Church whereof Christ is the head in which respect all the members of the Church and their seed are in Christ as branches in the vine or olive and may be cut off for want of faith to make them fruitful in him Mr. Cotton of infant bapt p. 55. l. 28 c. 2. But when you say none have right to the covenant or the external priviledges thereof but as they appear to be in Christ by some effect of faith declaring the same that you cannot make good from Scripture-light Mr. Cotton of infant bapt p. 56. l. 1 c. Hitherto of Church matter and Church-members Now out of this that hath been spoken I draw these plain positions with some inferences 1. The Church of the old Testament and new do not differ one from another in the qualification of their matter and members See the answer to the first question Therefore the Church of the old Testament consisted of visible Saints as well as the Church of the new 2. Sole want of grace doth not make a man uncapable of Church-membership unless ignorance and scandal do accompany it See the answer to the second and third question Therefore no man may be denyed membership because it doth not appear to the Church in the best judgement of charity and discretion thar he hath true saving grace 3. The members of the visible Church are Saints in respect of outward calling not inward inherent grace See answer to the four th question 4. The holiness from which the members of the visible Church are denominated Saints is not by imputation or regeneration but by separation to God and his worship See answ to quest 5. According to which Saul and Judas and Demas may be denominated Saints See answ to quest 6. Therefore all assemblies of people thus set apart to the worship of God are Churches of Saints and one Church may not say unto another stand apart from me for I am holyer then thou 5. The covenant of grace separates men and women from other people sets them apart to the Lord and his holy worship gives them right to holy priviledges denominates them holy or Saints See the answer to the fifth question Therefore the covenant of grace and not any other constitutes the Church and gives Church membership 6. Neither faith nor consent to the covenant is necessary to the bringing of men outwardly into covenant See the answer to quest 7 8. Therefore an explicite consent is not required to the constituting of a Church 7. The covenant of grace is applied to men not onely because they have faith and are converted but that they may have faith and be converted See answer to question 7. and 9. Therefore by a like reason men are to be admitted members of the Church not onely because they have faith and are converted but that they may have faith and be converted for the Church and the covenant are commensurate 8. Though Christ be a living head yet he counts it no dishonor to him to admit of dead members in his Church which is his mystical body as knowing how to glorifie himself in or by dead members See answer to quest 10. And though Christ be spiritual yet he doth not despise to take into covenant with himself those that are but natural See the answer to the 11. quest Therefore they arrogate to themselves to be wiser and holyer then Christ himself who despise and depart from Church assemblies and communion because of the mixture of those which are not spiritual and have nor the life of grace 9. Christ though he be married to the Church is not presently married to every member of the Church See answer to question 11. 10. Profession of faith in order to admission unto Church-membership is onely required of those that from Judaism and Paganism are converted unto Christ and not from such as being born in the Church are admitted in their infancy for their baptism seals to them their initiation into Church-membership See answer to question 12. Therefore it is an injury done to any that have been baptized in their infancy to deny them admission into the Church unlesse they make a profession of their faith and that before the whole Church 11. It is not the grace of faith but the doctrine of faith the profession whereof is required in Church-members See answer to question 13. Therefore it is irregular to put people upon the relation of the time and manner of their conversion 12. It were an inextricable perplexity to suspend the essence and validity of Churches and Church administrations upon the hidden sincerity of
Churches Church Officers or members See answer to question 13. Therefore they make desperate snares for their consciences and the consciences of others that say none may be Officers or members of a Church but such as are really converted ones 13. God approved Saul and Jehu to be admitted to their kingdom though he did not approve their persons or way of administring their kingdom See the answer to question 15. So by a parity of reason we may conclude that God approves some men to be admitted officers or members of the Church whose persons and wayes he doth not approve 14. It cannot be made good by Scripture-light that none have right to the covenant and external priviledges thereof but as they appear to be in Christ by some effect of faith declaring the same See answer to the last question Therefore to reject any for want of evidence of faith is not warrantable by the word CHAP. II. Of the Form and constitutions of a Church Question 1. WHether had the Church of England ever a true constitution Answ To say that the Church of England never had any true constitution Mr. Cotton is a rash and a false speech rash for can you say it or do you know it because you were then born or because the number of your dayes is great as God questioneth with Job in another case Iob 38.21 Or have you found such a matter by reading of ancient records and stories If you dare credit them as doubtless they are more worthy of credit that lived near those times and had the view of antient records then some of your later books who speak either out of partiality to Rome as the Jesuites or out of prejudice against the state of the Church of England some rigid Separatists do But those antient records will tell you that England received the faith of Christ by Ioseph of Arimathea and Simon Zelotes and others of those primitive Apostolick Saints who doubtless planted Churches not after the pattern of Antichrist but after the manner of the Apostles Mr. Cotton of infant Baptism pag. 186. line 3. Therefore to say the Church of England never had a true constitution is not onely rash but fals● for the Churches of England were rightly gathered and planted at the first Mr. Cottons way of the Church pag. 111. line 26. Quest 2. But have n●t the Churches of England been wofully corrupted since by Antichristian usurpations and innovations Answ 1. Yes yet that did not cast them into a worse estate than the ten tribes in Israel under Ieroboam and his successors especially under Ahab and I●sabel Mr. Cotton and the time succeeding them when yet God owned them for his Church and their circumcision was not a nullity Mr. Cotton of Infant Bapt. pag. 187. line 9. 2. For the Church now in being most of their members had their admission into the Church sealed in Baptism For many children are born in the Church to whom the pastor is by office a Pastor and whose conversion he is bound to attend and intend Mr. Cotton of holinesse of Church-members pag. 51. line 21. And their baptism seals to them their initiation into Church-membership Ibi. pag. 96. line 31. Quest 3. But they who are now Church-members were baptized upon the account of the baptism of their forefathers and they that is their forefathers were bap ized under Antichrist and so their baptism was a stone lying in Antichrists foundation and how can this give right of admission into the Church of Christ Answ The baptism of believers and of their seed is no more a stone lying in Antichrists foundation then is the doctrine of the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost Mr. Cotton three persons in one God into which we and our children are baptized That and other Gospel-ordinances they were in Rome but as the vessels of the temple were in Babylon reserved for the use of the Church after their return Mr. Cotton of Infant baptism pag. 163. line 28. Quest 4. But to the true and right constitution of a Church entring into covenant is necessary is it not Answ 1 That was done in King Edward and Queen Elizabeths days Mr. Cotton and whereas they say our Church is but a Parliament constitution that doth not weaken but establish our Church Mr. Cotton on the 1 Epist of Iohn 2 chap. 19 vers page 157. line 43 44 amp c. 2. The substance of the Church constituting covenant is ke●t where there is a real agreement and consent of a company of faithful persons to meet constantly together in one Congregation for the publike worship of God and their mutual edification which agreement and consent they do express by their constant practice of coming together for the publike worship of God and Religious subjection to the Ordinances of God Their Platform of Church discipline agreed upon by the Elders and messengers of the Churches in New England chap. 4. sect 4. 3. The people in the Parishes of England where there is a Minister put upon them by the Patron or Bishop they constantly hold them to the fellowship of the people of such a place attend all the Ordinances there used and the dispensation of the Minister so imposed upon them submit thereunto perform all services that may give countenance and encouragement to his person in the work of his Ministry By such actions and a fixed attendance upon all such services they declare that consent and covenant by their practice which others do hold forth by publike profession Mr. Hooker Survey of discipline part 1. pag. 47. line 36. Quest 5. What then is the work that is now to do in the Churches of England Answ The work which is now to do in the Churches of England is not to make Churches where there were none Mr. Cotton but to reduce them to their first primitive institution Mr. Cotton way of the Churches pag. 151. line ult Hitherto of the constitution and form of a Church Now out of this I shall also draw some few plain positions with some inferences 1. To say that the Church of England never had a true constitution is a rash and false speech See chapter 2. answer to the first question 2. The Antichristian usurpations and innovations that have overgrown the Church of England have not nullified the first constitution of it See chapter 2. answer to question 2. 3. The baptism administred and received in the Church of England is no more Antichristian then the doctrine of the Trinity See chapter 2. answer to question the third Therefore they are condemned who refuse to be present in our assemblies when baptisme is administred 4. Not onely baptisme but other Gospel-Ordinances were reserved in Rome for the use of the Church in after times as the vessels of the temple in Babylon See chap. 2. answer to quest 3. Thence quere why not ordination reserved there for the Churches use as well as baptism and yet no more Antichristian then baptism 5. The
engaging of the people to reformation by Edward the sixth and Queen Elizabeth had the vertue of a covenant to constitute the Church See Chapter second answer to question the fourth Therefore much more the late solemn league and covenant 6. Peoples ordinary and fixed attending together upon one Ministery and joyning ordinarily together in the duties of publike worship hath the nature and vertue of a Church covenant See chap. 2. answ to quest 4. And therefore they who most urge the necessity of a covenant cannot condemn our Parochial assemblies as no Churches for want of such a covenant 7. The work now to do in England is not to make Churches where none are but to reduce them to their primitive institution See chap. 2. answ to quest 5. Therefore they who have troubled themselves and the Church so much with constituting and gathering new Churches have troubled themselves and others with a work they have nothing to do withall and so have cause to fear that the Lord Christ will say unto them another day Who hath required this at your hands CHAP. III. Of Church State Question 1. WHat think you of the Assemblies and Congregations of England Answ The faithful Congregations in England are true Churches of Christ Mr. Hooker Survey of discipline preface a 3. Mr. Hooker Quest 2. But what is meant by faithful congregations Answ 1. There is the nature of a true visible Church where the word of God is purely preached Mr. Cotton the Sacraments duely administred with discipline also according to the word of God But then the Sacrament must not be administred to undue persons such as are the ignorant and scandalous nor the ignorant and scandalous must not be admitted into the Church if discipline be rightly administred yea though all these do not concur joyntly yet the essence of a true Church may be found though defective for integrity Mr. Cotton Holinesse of church-members pag. 10. line 17. 2. For where there hath been a Church that hath yeelded professed subjection to the Gospel of Christ then in case a settled Ministry be continued there God still continues a true visible Church there Mr. Cotton holiness of Church-members pag. 5. line 12. And the essence of a true visible Church is preserved though there be found in it some hypocrites and some notoriously scandalous both in judgement and practice Mr. Cotton holiness of Church-members p. 19. l. 1. 3. Neither doth the hypocrisie of sundry members of the Church and the toleration of some open scandals presently take away the nature of the Church Mr. Cotton holiness of Church-members pag. 2. line 8. 4. For the members of the Church though orderly constituted may in time grow corrupt which though they ought not to be tolerated in the Church yet their continuance therein through the defect of the execution of discipline and Church-censures doth not immediately dissolve the being of the Church as appears in the Church of Israel and in the Churches of Galatia Corinth Pergamus and Thyatira Platform of discipline from New England chap. 3. sect 3. 5. Yea if all the members of the Church should make but an hypocritical ignorant and verbal profession of Christ and faith in him yet I will not deny but such a society may have the name of a Church and thus far the nature of it that the actions thereof are not null Mr. Cotton holiness of Church-members p. 62. l. 33. Quest 3. But there are many precious promises made to and many glorious things spoke of the Church of Christ and can they be truely applied to such a Church as this Answ Look what promises are made to the invisible Church Mr. Cotton they are for their sakes offered to all the members of the visible whereof the lively are the chief Mr. Cotton of infant baptisme p. 6. l. 9. 2. It is one thing to prophesie of the transcendent glorious happiness of an exact pure Church in some age of it another to command and foretell the perpetual continuance of it in such a degree of purity Mr. Cotton of infant bapt p. 134. l. 20. Quest 4. But were it not better therefore to gather the Saints those that are really gracious and holy into bodies by themselves separate from the rest that are corrupt members Answ This were upon the point to cast them upon supposal that these corrupt members be such as receive her membership in their infancy out of the Church Mr. Cotton and the Lord hath allowed but two causes for the casting off any person out of the Church first obstinacy persisted in after the admonition fo● an offence first private Mat. 18.17 Secondly breaking ou● into some heinous crime against the light of nature 1 Cor. 5.11 Mr. Cotton holiness of Church-members p. 56. l. 21. Quest But if such members as these are be not to be cast out nor withdrawn from what is to be done Answ Such as are born of Christian parents and baptized in their infancy into the fellowship of the Church Mr. Cotton are initiated members of the same Church though destitute of spiritual grace untill they justly deprive themselves of the priviledge of that fellowship for even of such is the Kingdom of God Mark 10.14 Mr. Cotton holiness of Church-members pag. 1. line 16. 2. Such members of the Church as were born in the same and received their membership in their infancy by vertue of the covenant of their parents when growing to years of discretion they desire to be made partakers of the Sacrament of the Lords Supper unto which because holy things are not to be given to the unworthy therefore it is requisite that these as well as others should come to their tryal and examination and manifest their faith and repentance by an open profession thereof before they be received to the Lords Supper or otherwise not to be admitted thereto Platform of discipline from New England chap. 12. sect 7. 3. Yet these Church members that were so born or received in their child-hood before they are capable of being made partakers of full communion have many priviledges which others not Church-members have not they are in covenant with God have the seal thereof upon them to wit baptisme and so if not regenerate are in a more hopeful way of attaining regenerating grace and all the spiritual blessings both of the covenant and seal they are also under Church-watch and so consequently subject to the reprehensions admonitions and censures thereof for their healing and amendment as need shall require Platform of discipline chap. 12. sect 7. Infants though born in the Church yet if when they grow up to years they shall degeenrate into a prophane or scandalous course they shall not be tolerated to abide in the Church yea if they shall not take hold of the covenant of their fathers but content themselves in an ignorant civil worldly course of life they shall not be allowed to enter into the holy communion with the sincere members
right to a Sacrament because he hath an interest in the Covenant of the Gospel Mr. Hooker of which it is a seal but he must come to it in a right order of Christ that is the party must be a Member of a visible Congregation because the seals can there only be rightly and orderly administred I say it is sufficient the party be a member of a visible Congregation not this or that particular Mr. Hookers Survey of Discipline part 2. pag. 65. l. 26. Yet it is requisite that such members of a particular Church as were baptized and received their membership in their infancy should come to their tryal and examination and manifest their faith and repentance by an open profession thereof before they come to the Lords Supper or else not be admitted thereunto Platforme of Discipline from New England chap. 12 sect 7. Quest 15. How is this tryal and examination to be made Answ In case any through excessive fear or other infirmity Platforme of Discipline be unable to make the relation of their spiritual estate in publick it is sufficient that the Elders having received private satisfaction make relation thereof in publick before the Church they testifying their assent thereunto this being the way that tendeth most to edification Platforme of Discipline chap. 12. sect 4. And this is necessary for some and warrantable for all women it is most without exception to receive all women after the same manner Mr. Hookers Survey of Discipline part 3. pag. 6. line 37. Quest. 16. But may those that are members of one Church partake of the Sacraments in another Answ The members of one Church occasionally coming to another Platforme of Discipline we willingly admit them to partake with us at the Lords Table it being the seal of our communion not only with Christ nor only with the members of our own Church but with all the Churches of the Saints Platform of Discipline chap. 15. sect 4. Quest 17. But this priviledge is restrained only to members of gathered Churches is it not Answ The members that come commended from the faithful Congregations in England to ours here Mr. Hooker so that it doth appear to the judgment of the Church whence they come that they are by them approved and not scandalous they ought to be received into Church communion with us as members of other Churches in New Engl. in like cases so commended and approved Hookers Survey Preface A. 3. Quest 18. Are the administrations of men outwardly called to the work of the Ministry valid though the persons themselves be destitute of inward sanctity and saving grace Answ Who ever in a regular way hath received this outward call Mr. Hooker is a compleat and true officer and may act any part of his office though not inwardly graced and fitted worthily for such a place and work by God The Scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses Chaire had this outward call to that office therefore they must be heard by Gods own charge though they were most unworthy men had neither sufficiency of parts to do the work of the place nor yet sincerity of heart and life to endeavour much lesse to discharge the weight of the services which should be done by them being blinde guides painted sepulchres grossely hypocritical and scandalously vile in their general course corrupting the Law by their false and unlearned glosses and perverting the simple by their lewd carriages polluting all Gods Ordinances by their corrupt handling and administration thereof Mr. Hookers Survey of Discipline part 2. pag. 45. line 34. Quest 19. Is the office of the ruling Elder distinct from the Pastour and Teacher Answ The ruling Elders office is distinct from the office of the Pastour and Teacher Platforme of Discipline Platform of Discipline from N. E. chap. 7. sect 1. Quest 20. Why is this officer called a ruling Elder Answ The ruling Elders are not so called to exclude the Pastors and Teachers from ruling Platforme of Discipline but because ruling and governing is common to these with the other whereas attending to teach and preach the Word is peculiar to the former Platform of Disc chap. 7. sect 1. Quest 21. How do you prove that there is such an Office as a ruling Elder appointed by Christ in the Church Answ That there is such an office and officer appointed by Christ Mr. Hooker as the Scriptures are plain to him whose spirit and apprehension is not pre-possess't and fore-stalled with prejudice so this hath been maintained by many of Christs worthies of former and of later times So that we have no controversie here but with hierarchical persons the force of whose argument lies especially in a pursevant and a prison armed with authority of a high Commission Mr. Hookers Survey of Discipline part 2. p. 8. l. 11. Quest 22. But what Scripture have you to bottome this office upon Answ The first argument we have from Rom. 12.7 Mr. Cotton He that ruleth with diligence Mr. Hooker part 2. p. 8. l. 28. Mr. Hooker Mr. Cotton of the way of the Churches pag. 13. line 31. The second argument is taken from 1 Cor. 12.28 God hath set in his Church governments Mr. Hooker part 2. page 10. line 15. Mr. Cotton of the way of the Churches page 15. line 29. A third argument is taken from that famous place which is full to the purpose Let the Elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour 1 Tim. 5.17 Mr. Hookers Survey part 2. page 11. line 25. Mr. Cottons way page 19. line 17. Quest 23. What is the work of the ruling Elder Answ The ruling Elders work is to joyn with the Pastour and Teacher in those acts of spiritual rule which are distinct from the Ministery of the Word and Sacraments committed to them Platforme of Discipline of which sort are these that follow 1. To open and shut the doors of Gods house by admission of members ordination of officers excommunication of offenders restoring of penitents 2. To call the Church together when there is occasion and seasonably to dismisse them again 3. To prepare matters in private that in publick they may be carried on with lesse trouble and more speedy dispatch 4. To moderate the carriage of all matters in the Church assembled to propound matters to the Church to order the season of speech and silence to pronounce sentence according to the minde of Christ with the consent of the Church 5. To be guides and leaders to the Church in all matters whatsoever pertaining to Church-administrations and actions 6. To see that none in the Church live inordinately and out of rank and place without a calling or idly in their calling 7. To prevent and heal such offences in life or doctrine which might corrupt the Church 8. To feed the flock of God with a word of admonition 9. And as they shall be sent for to visit and pray over their sick brethren 10.
binde notorious offenders and impenitents under censure and to forgive the repentant Mr. Cotton of the Keys page 13. But yet this enquiring and hearing is not to be understood as if the complaint were immediately and pro primâ instantiâ to be brought to the Church or Fraternity No but it is first to be brought to the Eldership prepared and ripened by them and by them related to the Church for the Elders before that have not onely examined the offender and his offence and the proofs thereof privately but do also publickly revise the heads of all the material passages thereof before the Church and do withall declare the counsel and will of God therein that they may rightly discern and approve what censure the Lord requireth to be administred in such a case Mr Cotton of the Keys page 14. line 36. Quest 15. But yet after the Elders have thus examined the case and declared their judgement concerning it the Church have yet a power to judge have they not Answ Yes but not as an act of rule and authority for there is a judgment of discretion by way of priviledge as well as of authority by way of sentence that of discretion is common to all the Brethren as well as that of authority belongs to the Presbytery of the Church In England the Jury by their verdict as well as the Judge by his sentence do both of them judge the same Malefactor yet in the Jury their verdict is but an act of Popular liberty in the Judge it is an act of his judicial authority Mr. Cotton of the Keys page 14. line 11. Quest 16. What is the difference then between the judgment which the Brethren passe in the censure of Excommunication and that which the Elders passe Answ Great is the difference For though the Jury have given up their judgment and verdict yet the Malefactor is not thereupon legally condemned and much lesse executed but upon the sentence of the Judge In like sort here though the Brethren of the Church do with one accord give up their vote and judgment for the censure of an offender yet he is not thereby censured till upon the sentence of the Presbytery Mr. Cotton Keyes page 14. line 20. Quest 17. Have then the Brethren no power of authority but only of priviledge and liberty Is not binding and loosing an act of authority and power to binde and loose given to the Church of Christ Answ The whole Church may be said to binde and loose in that the Brethren consent and concur with the Elders both before the censure discerning it to be just and equal and declaring this by lifting up their hands or by silence and after the censure in rejecting the offender censured from their wonted communion Idem line 4. Quest 18. Whither is this consent of the Brethren unto the judgement and sentence of the Elders concerning the Excommunication of a Member an act of authority or of obedience Answ The people give consent in obedience to the will and rule of Christ Hence is that speech of the Apostle we have in readinesse to revenge all disobedience when your OBEDIENCE is fullfilled 2 Cor. 10.6 The Apostles revenge of disobedience by way of reproof in preaching doth not follow the peoples obedience but proceedeth whether the people obey it or no it was therefore their revenge of disobedience by way of censure in Discipline which they had in readinesse when the obedience of the Church is fulfilled in discerning and approving the equity of the censure which the Apostles and Elders have declared to them from the Word Mr. Cotton of the Keyes page 15. line 6. And if the people cannot convince the Elder of his errour or mistake in the sentence they are bound to joyne their judgment with his in the compleating of the sentence without impertinent questions needlesse scruples wilfull and disorderly gain-sayings Mr. Hookers Survey P. 3. page 42. line 7. Quest 19. But what if the case prove doubtful and there arise a difference between the Elders and the Brethren Answ If the case be doubtful and the difference grows wide and great it is then seasonable to crave the counsel and help of neighbouring Churches Mr. Hookers Survey part 3. page 40. line 15. Quest 20. May not the Brethren proceed to the sentence of Excommunication without the Elders Answ Excommunication is one of the highest acts of rule in the Church and therefore cannot be performed but by some Rulers Mr. Cotton of the Keyes page 16. line 6. Object But the twenty foure Elders who represent the private Members of the Church as the foure living creatures do the foure Officers had all of them Crowns upon their heads and sate upon Thrones which are signes of Regal Authority Answ The Crowns and Thrones argue them to be Kings no more than their white garments argue them to be Priests verse 4. but neither Priests nor Kings by office but by liberty to performs like spiritual duties by grace which others do by office and grace both Mr. Cotton of the Keyes page 16. line 19. Quest 21. What are the things or cases for which the censure of Excommunication is to be inflicted Answ It must not be for petty and small aberrations but for such evils as the mind and conscience of a man inlightned by the Church of God would condemn in himself or any upon the first serious consideration was his understanding left to the liberty of reason to act thereby and not crack-brained and perverted with prejudice and selfishnesse Mr. Hookers Survey of Discipline part 3. page 34. line 30. Quest 22. But tell us somewhat more particularly and expressely what is the matter of Excommunication Answ Such evils as are either heinous or abominable as fornication murder adultery incest treason or if not so grosse yet carry the face of evil in their fore-head upon the first serious and well-grounded consideration of reason and have been pertinaciously and obstinately persisted in after all means improved for their conviction and reformation Mr. Hookers Survey of Discipline part 3. page 34. line 37. Quest 23. You did a little above Quest 8 mention suspension as a censure distinct from Excommunication in what cases is that practised or used in the Church of Christ Answ In two Cases First thus Members born in the Church and having received their Membership in their infancy being grown to years of discretion must come to tryal and examination and manifest their faith and repentance by an open profession thereof before they be received to the Lords Supper or otherwise not to be admitted thereunto Platform of Discipline from New Eng. chap. 12. sect 7. see before chap. 3. Quest 5. though thy suspension be not strictly a censure being rather actus charitatis than potestatis and as they call it suspensio per modum cautelae Secondly thus while the offending brother lyeth under the censure of admonition he stands in the judgment of the whole Church as a convinced publick offender
and therefore till he be reconciled to the Church by the penitent and publick acknowledgement of his sin before them he doth abstain from the Lords Table according to the direction of our Saviour who would not have an offender present himself nor his guift before the Altar while the guilt of the offence of his brother lay upon him Mat. 5.23 24. Or as the Priests in the Law did forbear to eat of the holy things whilest they lay in uncleannesse Lev. 22. 3 4. Or as one Who lying in his uncleannesse did rather pollute the holy Ordinance of God by partaking of it than receive any holinesse from it Mr. Cottons way of the Churches page 91. line 26. Object But this seems to be but a voluntary act of the offending party this is not a Church censure Answ If the Church discern the offending brother to be willing to hear but not yet fully convinced of his offence as in case of Herefie they are to dispense to him a publick Admonition with declaring the offender to be under the publick offence of the Church who doth thereby withhold or suspend him from the holy fellowship of the Lords Supper till his offence be removed by penitent confession Platforme of Discipline from N. E. cap. 14. sect 2. and this is truly and properly s●spensio per modum censurae Hitherto of Church Government and Censures Now out of these particulars draw we these positions with inferences thereupon 1. Church-government or rule is placed by Christ in the officers of the Church who therefore are called Rulers See answ to quest 1. Therefore the fraternity are not the seat or subject of Rule or power 2. The essentials of Church-government are unalterable See answer to quest 1. Therefore they who believe ruling Elders to be essentials of government and yet constitute none in their Churches live in a neglect of duty contrary to their judgment and perswasion 3. Church Censures are Christs appointments See answ to quest 7. and cannot be dispensed at least some of them without Rulers See answ to q. 19. Therefore Churches that have no Rulers do not nor cannot observe all the Ordinances and appoinments of Jesus Christ 4. Petty matters and small aberrations are not to be censured by excomunication but such evils as are either heinous and abominable or at least are such as the minde and conscience of a man inlightned by the truth of God would condemn in any upon the first serious consideration See answer to quest 20 21. 5. Offences are not immediately and at the first dash to be brought to the Church or community but first to the Elders to be considered debated ripened by them received as serious and weighty or rejected as slight and frivolous See answer to quest 11. And therefore that Tell the Church which is the next immediate step after the first and second brethren and private admonition it is not Tell the fraternity or community but Tell the Elders 6. The power which the brethren have in censures it is not a power of rule and authority but a power of liberty and the judgement they passe it is not a judgement of authority but a judgement of discretion they are but as the Jury the Eldership is as the Judge See answer to quest 14 15 16. 7. The Church binds and looses only by consenting to the judgement and sentence of the Elders which consent of theirs is an act of obedience and they are bound to yeeld to it unless they can manifest that the judgement of the Eldership is corrupt and erroneous See answer to quest 18. 8. In doubtful cases and in matters of difference it is seasonable to crave the help and counsel of neighboring Churches See answer to quest 19. 9. There are two sorts of Church-Members some compleat who are admitted to all Ordinances some incompleate who having received their Membership in their infancy are suspended from the Lords Table and other Church-priviledges till they have passed a tryal and have received approbation of their fitness for those enjoyments An offending brother lying under publike admonition is suspended from the Lords Table before he be excommunicated therefore suspension is a censure distinct from Admonition and Excommunication CHAP. VI. Of Combination or Consotiation of Churches into Classes or Synods Question 1. WHether is it lawful for particular Congregations consisting of Elders and brethren and walking with a right foot in the truth and peace of the Gospel to joyn together in consotiation on combination of Churches Answ Though the Church of a particular Congregation consisting of Elders and Brethren Mr. Cotton c. be the first subject of all Church power needfull to be exercised within it self and consequently be independent from any other Church or Synods in the use of it yet it is lawful yea it is an useful safe and wholesome and holy Ordinance of Christ and in some cases necessary for such particular Churches to joyn together in holy covenant or communion and consotiation so I think it was intended by the Author though the printed copy say consolation amongst themselves to administer all their Church affairs which are of weighty and difficult and common concernment not without common consultation and consent of other Churches about them Mr. Hookers Survey of discipline preface A. 3. Mr. Cotton of the Keys pag. 54. line 27. Quest 2. Why do some say this consotiation of Churches is useful Answ The consotiation of Churches is not onely lawful but useful serving not alone to search out the truth but to settle the hearts of all that are sincerely minded in a right apprehension of the same Mr. Hooker Mr. Hooker Survey of discipline part 4. pag. 1. line 2. When many and those select and eminent lay the best of their abilities together improve their parts and prayers disquisitions consultations determinations to promote the knowledge and practice of the things of Christ the establishment of the Churches in the unity of the faith and their eternal peace Mr. Hooker Survey of discipline part 4. pag. 2. line 2. Quest 3. Why do you say it is safe Answ It is safe for in the multitude of Councellers there is safety as in civil so in Church affairs Prov. 11.14 Mr. Cottons Keys pag. 55. line 4. Mr. Cotton The light of nature and right reason forceth men out of their own necessities and experiences to confess this that in multitude of Counsellers there is safety Et plus vident oculi quam oculus c. The issue of the Councel evidenceth as much Act. 16.4 5. They delivered the decrees c. and the Churches were established in faith Mr. Hookers Survey of discipline part 4. pag. 2. line 9. Quest 4. But if the Church be of a good and strong constitution and walk with a right foot in the truth and peace of the gospel what need of such consotiation Answ Though this or that particular Church may be of a good and strong constitution and walk with a
not yet convinced though perhaps himself be nor admonished from these or like reasons to withdraw from publike communion in word or seals or censures is unlawful and sinful Platform of discipline cap. 13. sect 5. Quest 6. But what if there be many wicked and scandalous persons and the Church tolerate them in it ought not the godly to withdraw and depart from such a Church Answ 1. To separate from a Church for want of some Ordinances or to separate from the true worship of God Platforme of Discipline because of the sin of some worshippers is unlawful Mr. Hookers Survey of discipline Preface A. 3. 2. The suffering of profane and scandalous livers to continue in the Church and partake in the Sacrament is doubtless a great sin yet the godly are not presently to separate from it nor to ●bstain from communion with such a Church in the participation of the Sacrament Platforme of discipline chap. 14. sect 8 9. 3. The hypocrisie of sundry members of the Church and toleration of some open scandal doth not presently take away the nature of the Church nor is separation presently to be made from it Mr. Cotton of holiness of Church members pag. 2. line 8. 4. Christ and his Apostles in their times and the Prophets and other godly in theirs did lawfully partake of the Lords commanded Ordinances in the Jewish Church and never taught nor practised separation from the same though unworthy ones were permitted to be therein Platform of discipline chap. 14. sect 8. And the Apostles kept communion with the Jews as a Church notwithstanding their want of faith in Christ Mr. Cotton of Infant Bapt. pag. 56. line 28. And the faithful in the Church of Corinth wherein were many unworthy persons and practises are never commanded to absent themselves from the Sacrament because of the same therefore the godly in like causes are not presently to separate Platform of discipline chap. 14. sect 8. Quest 7. But if I can go to a Church that is more pure and where things are better ordered and more according to the minde of Christ why may I not leave communion with one Church and go to another As suppose I think the Congregational Churches purer then the Presbyterian may I not leave the Presbyterian and joyn to the Congregational Answ We do not judge it safe or meet for any member of a Presbyterian Church Platforme of Discipline forthwith to desert his relation to his Church and betake himself to the fellowship of a congregational Church though he may discern some defect in the estate and government of his own 1. For first Faithfulness of brotherly love in Church relation requires that the members of the Church should first convince their brethren of their sinful defects and duely wait for their reformation before they depart from them for if we must take such a course for the healing of a private brother by way of brotherly love with much meekness and patience how much more ought we to walk with like tenderness towards the whole Church 2. Secondly By the hasty departure of sound members from a defective Church reformation is not promoted but many times retarded and corruption increased whereas on the contrary when sincere members breathing after purity of reformation abide together they may by the blessing of God upon their faithful endeavors prevail much with their elders and neighbors towards a reformation it may be so much that their Elders in their own Church shall receive none to the seals but visible Saints and in the Classes shall put forth no authoritative act touching the members of other Churches but consultative onely nor touching their own but with the consent silent consent at least of their own Church which two things if they can obtain with any holy humble meek faithful endeavors we conceive they might by the grace of Christ find liberty of conscience to continue their relation to their own Presbyterian Churches without scruple Platform of discipline preface pag. 5. line I. Object But we scruple not onely these but many other things As first Your Ministers many of them had their Ordination from the Bishops and they theirs from Rome and so your Ministery is Antichristian and those that are not ordained by Bishops are Ordained by a Classis or Presbytery which is a power forreign and extrinsecal to the Church whose Ministers they are Answ First For the Ministers that were ordained by Bishops take it thus Mr. Cotton The power whereby the Ministers in England do administer the Word and Sacraments is either spiritual and proper essential to their calling or adventitious or accidental The former they have received from Christ by a twofold act of his First He hath furnished many of them with ministerial gifts Secondly He hath enclined the hearts of his people to choose them and call them as in many Parishes in the City and in sundry Market-Towns and elsewhere or at least to accept them and submit to them being commended to them by the Patron The latter power which is adventitious and accidental that which they receive from the Patron who presents them to the Bishop and from the Bishop who ordains and licenseth them to Minister to Christ and to his people This power though it hath been established by the Law of the Land yet it is both adventitious and accidental for the Ministers power is compleat without it and it is also usurped For neither had the law lawful power from Christ to give such power to the Patron and Bishop neither had the Bishop or Patron lawful power to receive it neither could the people then choose their Minister without the leave of their Patron nor induct him into the Church without the ordination or leave of the Bishop Thus when Pyrates have invaded a ship no man in it neither Officer nor Passenger can come by his own goods but by leave of the Pyrate who upon their submission will give them their keyes of their own vessels and chests this power to come to their own goods received from the Pyrate it is not that which gives them true and proper right to enter upon the possession and use of their own goods for that right they had by a former just title which Pyrates cannot disannull Mr. Cotton but it is onely adventitious and accidenttal I need not apply it to the case in hand the application is obvious Mr. Cotton of Infant Bapt. pag. 181. line 25. And as for those Ministers that are ordained by Classes or Presbyteries as you call them I answer first Ordination is a work of rule and pertains to Presbyters Mr. Cotton way of the Churches pag. 49. line 4. And secondly In such Churches where there are no Elders and the Church so desires we see not why imposition of hands may not be performed by the Elders of other Churches Platform of Discipline from N.E. chap. 9. sect 5. Quest 8. May then we who are members of gathered or constituted