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A62668 To receive the Lords Supper, the actual right and duty of all church-members of years not excommunicate made good against Mr. Collins his exceptions against The bar removed, written by the author : and what right the ignorant and scandalous tolerated in the church have to the Lords Supper declared : many thing belonging to that controversie more fully discussed, tending much to the peace and settlement of the church : and also a ful answer to what Mr. Collins hath written in defence of juridical suspension, wherein his pretended arguments from Scripture are examined and confuted : to which is also annexed A brief answer to the Antidiatribe written by Mr. Saunders / by John Timson ... Timson, John.; Timson, John. Brief answer to the antidiatribe written by Mr. Saunders. 1655 (1655) Wing T1296; ESTC R1970 185,323 400

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shall_v be_v reform_v from_o their_o evil_n otherways_o the_o minister_n and_o church_n may_v partake_v of_o those_o sin_n though_o they_o never_o come_v to_o the_o sacrament_n but_o this_o be_v a_o conceit_n of_o some_o man_n that_o unless_o a_o man_n do_v what_o he_o can_v to_o keep_v such_o away_o from_o the_o sacrament_n he_o be_v a_o partaker_n of_o their_o sin_n whereas_o the_o sacrament_n be_v his_o duty_n as_o well_o as_o any_o other_o worship_n who_o be_v not_o to_o be_v blame_v for_o that_o but_o for_o his_o sin_n such_o work_n of_o darkness_n that_o the_o apostle_n do_v instance_n in_o ephes_n 5.2_o 3_o 4._o the_o place_n that_o this_o argument_n stand_v upon_o we_o be_v not_o to_o reform_v such_o offender_n in_o those_o lawful_a thing_n they_o be_v but_o to_o reform_v they_o from_o the_o wicked_a and_o ungodly_a course_n that_o they_o offend_v in_o i_o grant_v that_o if_o any_o in_o the_o church_n shall_v pollute_v the_o holy_a sign_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n to_o 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minister_n and_o elder_n mere_o for_o ignorance_n and_o for_o the_o omit_v of_o some_o private_a duty_n and_o allow_v the_o benefit_n of_o all_o other_o ordinance_n in_o the_o church_n as_o member_n which_o be_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o presbyterian_a party_n that_o mr._n collins_n defend_v or_o that_o ever_o any_o scandalous_a member_n be_v only_o keep_v from_o the_o sacrament_n without_o any_o further_a juridical_a proceed_n unto_o excommunication_n or_o whether_o any_o church_n ever_o will_v suffer_v their_o member_n of_o year_n to_o neglect_v the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o holy_a supper_n year_n after_o year_n through_o carelessness_n or_o mere_o leave_v they_o out_o as_o heathen_n though_o bear_v in_o the_o church_n and_o baptize_v now_o i_o say_v if_o that_o authority_n which_o be_v quote_v by_o mr._n collins_n will_v not_o reach_v these_o case_n they_o be_v but_o little_a for_o his_o purpose_n they_o will_v not_o speak_v to_o the_o clear_n of_o the_o controversy_n in_o hand_n 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