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A58672 A vvord to Dr. VVomocke. Or, A short reply to his pretended resolution of Mr. Croftons position concerning ministers use of an imposed liturgie. To which is annexed, a blow at Jerubbaal redivivus: discovering his weakness and errours in defence of his groundless secession from solemn publick worship ministred by the English liturgie. By R.S. the publisher of reformation not separation. R. S. 1663 (1663) Wing S140A; ESTC R219070 25,745 31

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and joynt communion but addeth no new matter onely referreth to Jerubbaal This then I turn back to Jerubbaal justified The eleventh Paragraph noteth that Mr. Crofton will deny that Pag. 8. there are many or indeed any members of the Church catholick who never had opportunity of associating themselves with or of joynt communion in the solemn worship of God in a particular Church and answereth the same with needless distinctions and manifest non-sence As 1. by universal is meant the catholick militant Church comprehending visible and invisible yet note his Jerubbaal did determine it to be visible onely pa. 19. and the catholick Church must be the subject of solemn publick Worship and Gods Ordinances capable of association and joynt communion in them of these the invisible part of the Church are not capable 2. That a man may be a member of the invisible without opportunity of joynt communion in outward Ordinances I do not onely imply but I speak out but what is this to our purpose Nor will I deny a professor may be a believer but that maketh him not a member of the Church visible Profession is the ground of visible Church-membership but it is not the formalis ratio thereof no that is Baptism an act of personal association and joynt communion which must needs have its opportunity in all that enjoy it I say as his greater Sophies ignorantly quoted A professor is visible a believer invisible the believer may be a professor of the same faith and not partake in the same ordinances Yet it will not hence follow there are any or many members of the Church visible who never had an opportunity of joynt communion in solemn publick worship for all such must be incorporated by Baptism without which the best professors and true believers must be foro Ecclesiae judged without the Church The twelfth Paragraph concerning Conventicles tells us A society of persons ten twenty thirty or forty amongst whom is a Minister celebrating true Divine Worship according to the will of Christ by the assistance of his Spirit and in his Name not causelesly and unjustly separating from a true Church is no Conventicle or Schismatical Assembly Who ever said such an Assembly was a Conventicle Jerubbaal justified told you of twenty thirty or forty private members assembled Pag. 22. distinct from and opposite to a Church an holy Convocation And I say again if the Congregations in England be true Churches and secession from them as it yet seemeth to be unwarrantable and groundless though twenty thirty or forty with a Minister constitute themselves a counter-Church opposite to these Assemblies and therein administer Church-ordinances I see not how to acquit them from the repute and reality of a Conventicle and Schismatical Assembly Nor will Christ's promise of his presence be any prop to their Fabrick who are not met in his Name for God is a God of Order We are at length arrived to his five Quaeries before mentioned Pag. 9. by himself stated and so best resolved The first is this What is that which may warrant and acquit from Quaer 1. Schism a persons non-communion with the Church of England in the worship alledged to be ministred by her Liturgie or Common-Prayer I must here note that though he come not close to the Question in dispute yet he cometh somewhat nearer and can now mention the subject Worship distinct from his adjunct the Liturgie by which it is ministred so that he hath learned to speak in an entire Proposition worship ministred by the Liturgie I hope he hath so clear reason as to discern the subject Worship the Predicate ministred by the Liturgie are the parts of this Proposition and the Worship ministred not the Liturgical ministration is the object of his Communion or non-Communion controverted under this Quaerie which he resolveth in certain Propositions whereof the first is Communion with this part of the Church is a Duty c. This is square to Mr. Croftons assertion onely I would advise him to revise 1 Proposit the wording of it for it soundeth non-sence in mine ears He noteth an Objection Reading the Word is a publick Ordinance Pag. 10. of God and part of publick Worship He answereth True who ever denied the thing is appointed but not the measure or quantum be enjoyeth it in Textual occasional Reading in the Sermon preached But good Sir is not solemn Reading distinct from and opposite to textual and occasional Reading a part of solemn Worship Cast your eye on Nehem. 8. 3. Luke 4. 16. Acts 13. 15 27. 15. 21. Consult the practise of the Jews and primitive Christians the determinations of Fathers ancient and modern Divines Systems and Common-places in Divinity especially Expositions on the fourth Commandment tell me which of them assert not solemn Reading distinct from Preaching and its accidents to be a distinct part of solemn publick worship and which of them will conclude textual and occasional Reading to be the performance of it Is not your fancy in this manifestly ridiculous The second Proposition resolving this Quaerie is a most strange 2 Proposit ranting uncharitable if I may not say impious Notion viz. The worship administred or administrable by the English Liturgie or publick set-Form considered as such and in a complex state appeareth as yet to be none of that Worship of which God is the Author the Gospel the Rule the practice Apostolick the pattern but Cultus adulterinus meer adulterate worship a piece of Superstition arbitrary Devotion Scripture-bitten will-worship supererogatory service Lawstruck Tradition and Ordinance of Man Whither will the man run This proved is enough to warrant yea to necessitate secession from the English Church but we must believe it on the Magisterial confident say-so of this Grave Dictator for no proof is so much as offered But doth the man know what he saith or whereof he doth affirm that he thus ranteth not against the Liturgie that may be born but against the worship in abstracto distinct from the Liturgie is to me very strange The Worship administred or administrable by the Liturgie is cultus adulterinus no worship of God is his Position the most rigid Separatists will not say it If this be so well might Doctor Owen acquit Independency from Schism by pleading the Church lost its being under Popery gathering of Churches must needs be a duty yet no gathered Church hath any worship of God or any other the cultus adulterinus c. for they have no other worship then what is administrable by the English Liturgie Good Sir what is the worship administred or administrable by the English Liturgie Is it not solemn reading the Scriptures invocation of God Baptism and the Lords Supper Pray you Sir is not God the Author Gospel the Rule and practice Apostolick the Pattern of these If these be not the worship administred and administrable by the Liturgie give us the name of it that we may enquire its nature