non habet The tongue of the condemned hath a noise of words but no power to perswade except this be also true Magna vis veritatis Truth may swim it cannot sinke But I speake to the godly the lover of the Truth the sufferer for Truth against Antichristian Prelacy which is but spilt Popery or half-dyed Papistry who possibly liketh not well of Presbyteriall government And to such I am a debtor for love charity honour and all due respect in Christ Jesus and a seat and lodging in my heart and highest esteeme And to thinke of all such is both as the Apostle saith 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 meet And also if it be beside the truth an honest and almost innocent error Yea and to say to every one in whom as reverend Bucer saith there 's aliquid Christi any of Christs new Creation as Ierom said to a friend tibi quod possum debeo quod non possum I owe to thee what I am able to doe and more for thy good And of these I humbly beg equity charity and unpartiall weighing of precious truth I am grieved that this should bee put on mee which a Heathen laid on his friend Amavit patriam quia suam non quia patriam he loved his countrey because his owne not because his countrey Seeing it's weaknesse to overlove a Nationall faith because Nationall and not because it 's faith Truth naked and stripped of all supervenient relations is love worthy And there is as great cause of sorrow that all the Lords people should not mind one thing and sing one Song and joyne in one against the children of Babel Neither should I feare that animo dolenti nihil oportet credere sorrow deserveth no faith Since my witnesse is in heaven and my record on high That I both love and dispute I contradict and I reverence at once in this Treatise and shall hope if any be otherwise minded God shall even reveale this unto them And it is meet so to doe since our Physician Christ can well difference betwixt weaknesse and wickednesse and will not have us cast one straw before any whose face is towards Heaven to cause them to stumble Love hath a bosome and armes to carry the weake Lambes and is a bridge over the River to keep the weake passenger dry footed Dearly beloved let us all in one Spirit one love one affection joyne to build the City that is named The Lord is there O that our Lord would be pleased to suspend the Heaven and glory of some and that our Heaven might for a season be stayed out of Heaven so we might live to see two Sisters the Daughters of one Father and of one Mother Ierusalem who is above Britaines Israel and Iudah England and Scotland comming together weeping and asking the way to Sion and their faces thither ward saying Come let us joyne our selves to the Lord in a perpetuall Covenant that shall not be forgotten And not that only for why should the Glory of our Royall and princely King the plant of Renowne be confined within this narrow Isle o◠Britaine but that he would make us eye-witnesses of his last Marriage-glory on earth when he having cast the cursed milstone Babylon in the Sea and sowne the land of graven Images with brimstone and destroyed Idols out of the earth shall be espoused on our elder Sister the Church of the Jewes and the fulnesse of the Gentiles O that Christ would enlarge his Love bed And O what a honour to the servants of the Lord to beare up the taile of Christ his Marriage-robe-royall in the day of our high and royall Solomons espousals And what a second time-Heaven were it before eternities Heaven to have a bed in his chariot which is bottomed with gold and paved and floured with Love for the daughters of his last married Ierusalem And who knoweth but our Lord hath now entred on that glorious Marriage-suit Let us beleeve wait on love follow truth and peace be zealous for the Lord and pray for the exalting of his Throne And so I am Yours in all respective love and observance S. R. A Table of the Contents of the ensuing Treatise CHAP. 1. QUEST 1. WHether the keyes of the Kingdome of Christ be conferred by Christ Jesus upon the multitude of beleevers as upon the first and proper subject or upon the Church-guides only p. 1. CHAP. 2. QVEST. 2. Whether or no some doe warrantably prove from Scripture that the power of the keyes is given to all the faithfull p. 20. CHAP. 3. QVEST. 3. Whether or no the Church of beleevers in a Congregation be the first Church having the highest power of jurisdiction within it selfe and that independently and a power above and over the Eldership to constitute and ordaine them and to censure depose and excommunicate them in the case of corruption of Doctrine and scandals of life and conversation p. 30. CHAP. 4. QVEST. 4. Whether or no our brethren prove strongly that the Church of beleevers is the first Church having supreame jurisdiction over the Eldership p. 38. CHAP. 5. QVEST. 5. Whether or no some doe warrantably affirme the power of the keyes to be originally and essentially in the Church of beleevers and in the Church-guides only quoad exercitium and from the Church of beleevers as the Mistresse whom the guides are to serve and from whom they have borrowed the use of the keyes p. 52. CHAP. 6. QVEST. 6. Whether Christ hath left the actuall government of his Church to the multitude of beleevers p. 63. CHAP. 7. QVEST. 7. If there be no true visible Church in the New Testament but only one Congregation meeting in one place and no Presbyteriall or representative Church as they call it p. 70. CHAP. 8. QVEST. 8. Whether or no our Saviour doth warrant and allow a Church of Elders and Overseers in these words Mat 18. Tell the Church p. 83 85. CHAP. 9. QVEST. 9. What members are necessarily required for the right and lawfull constitution of a true Politicke visible Church to the which we may joyn in Gods worship p. 92. CHAP. 10. QVEST. 10. Whether or no it be lawfull to separate from a true Church visible for the corruptions of Teachers and wickednesse of Pastors and professors where faith is begotten by the preaching of professed truth p. 120. CHAP. 11. QVEST. 11. Whether or no separation from a true Church because of the sinnes of the Professors and manifest defence of scandalous persons can be proved from Gods word to be lawfull p. 149. CHAP. 12. QVEST. 12. Whether or no some doe warrantably teach that Baptisme should be administrated onely to Infants borne of one at least of the nearest Parents knowne to be beleevers and who are to be admitted to the Lords Supper p. 164. CHAP. 13. QVEST. 13. Whether or no every particular Congregation and Church hath of it selfe independent power from Christ Jesus to exercise the whole power
key toward another this way but these are not the keyes ecclesiastically and formally that are given to the Church seeing one man is not the Church But only the keyes materially used in a private way as a common servant at command of the Lord of the house may use the keyes and give broad to the barnes but it followeth not hence that the keyes are given to him authoritatively as to the Steward by speciall office because this servant of charitie useth the keyes or rather that which is in place of the keyes which is the word in a private way CHAPTER III. Whether or no the Church of believers in a Congregation be the first Church having the highest power of jurisdiction within it selfe and that independently and power above and over their Eldership to constitute and ordaine them by an intrinsecall power received from Jesus Christ and by that same power to censure and depose them when they become scandalous in life or corrupt in doctrine THe determination of this question so neare of blood and kindred to the former two is of much force to cleare many doubts in this subject Hence I propound these following distinctions as very considerable 1. A Church independent is twofold either a Church of believers in a congregation having originally the power of the keyes within themselves to make or unmake their officers 2. Or an Eldership of one congregation including the congregation that may from an intrinsecall power without subordination to Synods provinciall or nationall exercise all jurisdiction This question is of the former independent Church 2. A Church is considered two wayes 1. As totum essentiale this is a mysticall Church consisting of only bâ—lievers or of persons as professing faith a Church of faithfull of Saints 2. The Church is considered as totum integrale made up of officers and a flock this Ames cals an instituted Church others a Ministeriall Church as we consider John as a believer or John as an Elder or minister of a Church 3. There is a twofold Primacie answerable to this One whereby a number of believers is the first mysticall body of Christ immediately united to Christ as a mysticall body to the head This is a mysticall or Christian primacy or to speak so firstnesse or principality 2. There is an other primacy or principalitie ministeriall wherby such a number of men are the first subject of the keyes having power of binding and loosing first and immediately from Christ as is proved Ch. 1. 4. 3. Christ hath a twofold influence as head upon these two bodies one influence of speciall and saving grace upon the Church of believers An other common influence communicating to the ministeriall body the power of the keyes and gifts which hee gave to men to be Pastours and Teachers and Elders when he ascended on high and leâ— captivitie captive Neither do they looke right on this question who will have the power of the keyes an essentiall propertie of the Church of believers for there is no reciprocation here betwixt the propertie and the subject seeing the power of the keyes is in many that are unbelievers and not of Christs mysticall body Many warrantably preach Christ to others and seale the covenant to others who are unsaved men remember the builders of the Arke and many are Christs mysticall body that have not the power of the keyes All believers are not Eldâ—rs having power of order Hence our 1. Conclusion If wee speake of a Christian primacie and eminency of grace the Church of believers sincerely professing the faith and believing is the only first true visible Church 1. The essence and definition of a called and effectually translated company agreeth to them and they are the called of God 2. Because the promises made to the redeemed saved and washen Church belongeth to them they are properly the Church builded on the rock the loved and redeemed spouse of Christ. 2. This Church is the true body of Christ which shall infallibly bee glorified with the head Christ. The ministeriall Church is his body also on which hee hath an influence bestowing upon them common gifts but not a body which shall infallibly be glorified but in so far as they are true members of the Church of believers And here observe our brethren have no cause to object to us that there is not a place in all the old or new Testament where the word Church signifieth only the presbyterie or Eldership the contrary whereof God willing I shall shew but I desire that they will produce a place in either the old or new Testament where the word Church signifieth a governing multitude or a ministeriall company of onely believers having power and use of the keyes yet this must be shewed in this dispute if their principles stand good 11. Conclusion A multitude of believers sincerely professing the faith is the first visible mysticall Church because the definition of a visible mysticall Church agreeth to them being redeemed professors of the Gospell So the saints at Colosse Corinth Philippi as not including their guides is a true uisible Church Before I come to the third conclusion I must shew what our brethren hold anent this present question The English puritanisme holdeth every Congregation or Assemblie of true believers joyning together according to the order of the Gospell in the true worship of God to be a true visible Church And that this name is unproperly given to Synods or Assemblies of office-bearers so also the Guide to Zion Parker maketh the Church of believers in any particular congregation to be the highest and most supreme Church in majoritie and power of jurisdiction above tâ—eir owne Eldership or Presbyterie having power to ordaine or depose them above all Synods of Pastours and Elders William Best citeth and approveth the mind of the English Church as he calleth it at Frankeford the Ministers and Seniors severally and joyntly shall have no authority to make any manner of decrees or ordinances to bind the congregation or any member thereof but shâ—ll â—â—ecute such ordinances as shall be made by the congregation and to them delivered Hooker against Paget They whicâ— had compleat and perfect Ministers before any Classes had power to call those Ministers they have authoritie above the Ministers But a particulâ—r congregation had perfect and compleat Ministers perfectly and compleatly called before any Classes To this agreeth the confession of faith of the unjustly called Brownists that every Christian congregation yea two or three sequestred from the whole hath â—ower from Christ of election ordination deposition excommunication of the Elders or Office-bearers set over them And expresly M. Parker a man otherwayes of an excellent spirit for holinesse and learning saith That the supremacie of Ecclesiasticall power is in the Church of believers contradistinguished from their guides Paul and Apollo Here we see
Basilius saith The governours of the Church are set down 1 Cor. 12. 28. And Ambrose on that place saith the Church policy is set downe 1 Cor. 12. So Chrysostome Cyprian Tertullian so Origen Ireneus August Theophylact Theodoret Hyerom which for time I cannot cite at length CHAP. VII Q. 7. If there be no true visible Church in the New Testament but onely a congregation meeting in one place and no Presbyteriall or representative Church as they call it at all OVr Brethren hold that the only true publick visible Church in the New Testament is a Congregation of Believers joyned together by a voluntary profession of Faith and meeting in one place to worship God They deny 1. That the word Church doth ever signifie a Presbytery or Eldership 2. They deny that there is any representative Church properly so called or that it hath the title of a Church in the New Testament 3. They deny that there is any Provinciall or Nationall Church that can be called a visible politique body of Christ. 4. They deny any Church to have power of jurisdiction over a particular Congregation For the decision of the present questions these distinctions are to be observed 1. There be odds betwixt a Church visible and a Church ministeriall 2. There be odds betwixt a Cathedrall or mother Church and this we deny and a Church Nationall and provinciall which cannot meet to the worship of God in all the particular members therof 3. The Church is termed representative three wayes as we shall heare 1. properly 2. commonly 3. most properly 4. Suppose the name of Presbyteriall Church be not in the New Testament yet if the thing it selfe be in it it is sufficient The word Church is not taken here 1. For the Temple or House where God is worshipped 2. Neither for foure or five that worship God ordinarily within the walls of a Family Rom. 16. 5. Salute the Church at their House 1 Cor. 16. 19. Philem. v. 2. It is termed Kahal that is in the old Testament rendred Synagogue and Kahal rendred Ecclesia And Kahal Deut. 5. 22. or Hehillah Deut. 33. 4. signifieth a Congregation of people and Gnedah a Congregation Exod. 16. 1. Psal. 111. 1. is turned Ecclesia Mat. 16. 18. Act. 7. 38. Kahal is either a multitude of Nations or People Gen. 35. 11. so Jer. 50. 9. An Assembly of Nations not a Church of Nations came against Babylon Somtimes the Tribes and Governours are called Kahal the Church or Assembly 1 Chron. 13. 2 3. 1 Chron. 29. 6. 2 Chron. 1. 2 3. See Piscator Junius Guide to Zion The word Gnedah that signifieth the Assembly of the Judges Psalm 82. 1. is turned in the New Testament 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Act. 5. 27. and Act. 6. 12. M. Ball hath observed that the Arabick Interpreter useth four words Gamhon Act. 19. 31 39. 2. Gamahaton Acts 7. 38. both signifieth an Assembly or an Assembly of Princes 3. Kainsaton Rom. 16. 1. Acts 11. 26. 4. Bihaton Matth. 16. 18. and 18. 17. the Church that hath power to determine controversies 1. Conclusion A number of believers professing the truth is not presently a visible politick Church 1 Because then every Christian Family should be a visible politick Church 2 Peter offended Mat. 18. and rebuking his offending brother before three witnesses and gaining his brother to repentance v. 16. is a number of believers in that same act professing the truth and convincing an offender and so professing Gods worship and yet they are not the judging governing Church because if the offender will not heare Peter then he is to tell the Church Hence visibility of Profession agreeth both to a number of believers if for example ten out of ten particular Congregations confesse Christ before a persecuting Judge and also to a constitute Church of Believers and Elders Then true Faith and the visible professing of true Faith is not enough to constitute a Church that ordinarily hath power and exercise of the keyes neither find we any warrant in Gods Word that the swearing of an oath or making a covenant by four or five or 10. or 40. believers to worship God together as he hath commanded in his word doth essentially constitute a visible ministeriall Church 1. Because a ministeriall Church is a body of Pastor and People of eyes eares hands feet wherof Christ is head Rom. 12. 4. 1 Cor. 12. v. 14 15 c. but a number of sole and only believers are not such a body 2. More is there required an oath and covenant but this is and may be where there is no ministery 2. Conclusion We deny that Christ hath given power of jurisdiction to one particular Church over another particular Church or to one Church to be a mother Church to give laws and orders to little daughter-churches under it for that jurisdiction is not to be found in the Word of God and so is not lawfull See Paul Baynes and Parker and Cartwright 3. Conclusion A Church may be a visible incorporation of guides and people meeting for the worship of God and exercise of discipline and yet not necessarily a Church of believers for if there be twenty or thirty visible Saints who are Saints in profession they may meet for the worship of God and consequently by our Brethrers grounds independently and without any subordination to Synods or classes exercise discipline I proove that they are not necessarily believers 1. Because to make one or two formall members of a visible Church is not required that they be indeed believers it sufficeth that they professe Faith and be apparantly Saints and our Brethren teach they may be Hypocrites and often are as Iudas was amongst the Apostles now by that same reason all the thretty may be heart-hypocrites and face-professors for who seeth the heart And our Brethren say the preaching of the word and the administration of the Sacraments are not essentiall notes and markes of the Church because the word is often preached to reprobates and unbeleevers and by that same reason the power of the keyes and discipline is exercised by hypocrites and unbeleevers 2. Amesius saith it is probable he saith not it is necessary where the Word and Sacraments are that there are some beleevers And I say it is probable but that at all times there should be beleevers especially when it is first founded it is not necessary I say when it is first founded because we cannot say it is possible that there should be never any beleevers there at all for the Lord sendeth not a ministery to these where there are none chosen at all it doth crosse the wisedome of God who doth nothing in vaine that he should light a candle where he had no lossed money and the Shepheard should be sent through the fields where there were no lossed sheep at all Hence I inferre these consectaries 1. that the claime and title that a people
may joyn in Gods worship IT is maintained by these of the Separation that the rightly constituted Church must consist of the Lords planting as saith M. Barrow all taught of God all plants of righteousnesse sons of Zion precious stones a redeemed people a royall generation so the Guide to Zion The true visible Church say the Separatists is a company of people called and separated from the world by the word of God and ioyned together in a voluntary profession of the faith So Separatists in their petit Mr. Ainsworth M. Canne the discovery of N. Light For the clearing of the Question we remit to the consideration of the Reader these distinctions 1. Distinct. There be some Saints by externall calling but not chosen some Saints by internall and effectuall calling called and chosen of God 2. Distinct. There be some members of a visible Church who de jure by right and obligation should be such there be other members of a visible Church de facto and in practise who are such and such members 3. Distinct. There is a morall obligation and so all the members of a visible Church are obliged to bee Saints by effectuall calling there is a physicall obligation and so that persons may be members of a visible Church as visible it is not essentially required that they be effectually called 4. Dist. If a true Church and a visible Church as visible may not for a time be opposed by way of contradiction as a believing Church and a non-believing Church I remit to be considered and shall God willing bee cleared 5. Dist. It is one thing to be wicked and scandalous indeed and really and another thing to be scandalous juridicè and in the Court of the Church and notarily 6. Dist. A knowne and openly scandalous person and a well lustred and dyed Hypocrite are to be differenced in the Church 7. Dist. Let it be considered if the preaching of the word be not in divers considerations 1. A mean of constituting and making a visible Church 2. A true note of a visible Church 3. A meane of saving the believing Church now visibly professing the Faith 8. Dist. Let it be considered if the Magistrate and King may not compell men to the confessing and professing of the faith actu imperato by an externall forcing power and yet neither Magistrate nor Pastour can compell to heart-believing actu elicito by an inward moving of the heart 9. Let it be considered if a visible Church may not be a true Church by reason of some few sound believers and sincere seekers of God and that same whole body an infected lump and whoorish in respect of some visible professours who are hypocrites and proud despisers of the Lord. 10. Let it be considered if a Church may not be tearmed by Gods Spirit an whoore no Church no Spouse jure merito quod vocationem passivam in respect of bad deserving and their not answering on their parts to the call of God and yet that same Church remaine de facto formaliter quoad vocationem Dei activam formally and in regard of Gods part and his active vocation and calling the Spouse and bride of Christ. Hence our first Conclusion The Saints by externall calling are the true matter of a visible Church 1. The word Ecclesia the called of God proveth this For those are a true visible Church where God hath set up a Candlestick and whom God calleth to Repentance Remission of sinnes and life eternall in Christ because there bee a setled Ministery calling 2. Because all to whom the Word is preached are called the visible Church as all within the house are vessels of the house visibly howbeeit there bee in the house Vessels of Honour and vessels of dishonour 3. So saith Ainsworth this we hold That Saints by calling are the only matter of a visible Church yet withall we hold that many are called but few chosen So also the kingdome of Heaven or visible Church is a draw net wherin are good and bad fishes a barne-floore wherin are chaffe and good wheat See 1 Corinthians 1. 23. Collossians 1. 1 2. Romans 1. 7. Philip. 1. 1. Math. 20. 16. 2. Conclusion All the members of the visible Church de jure and by right or by morall obligation ought to be Saints effectually called 1. Because the commandement of making to themselves a new heart Ezech. 18. 31. and to be renewed in the spirit of their mind Eph. 4. 23. Rom 12. 2. and to be holy as he who hath called them is holy 1 Pet. 1. 15 16. It doth lay an obligation morall upon all within the visible Church 2. Because the preached Gospell is the grace of God appearing to all men teaching them to deny ungodlinesse c. Tit. 2. v. 11 12. 3. Conclusion But de facto as the visible Church is in the field of the world all the members of the visible Church are not effectually called justified sanctified neither is it needfull by a phisicall obligation for the true nature and essence of a visible Church that all the members of it be inwardly called and sanctified every professor is obliged to beleeve else the wrath of God abideth on him and he is condemned already But to make a man a visible professor and a member of the true visible Church as visible saving faith is not essentially required so as he should be no member of the Church visible if he beleeve not That this may be right taken observe that the visible Church falleth under a two-fold consideration 1. In concreto as a Church 2. In abstracto as visible The visible Church considered in concreto is a part of the universall Catholike and unvisible Church which partaketh of the nature and essence of a true Church and Christs misticall body in which consideration we deny reprobates and unbelevers to be members of the visible Church 1. Because there is no reall communion whatever Bellarmine and Papists say on the contrary betwixt righteousnesse and unrighteousnesse light and darkenesse the seed of the woman and the seede of the Serpent so as they can make up one true Church 2. Because these who are not Christs are not members of Christ and so no part of his misticall body 3. Because they are not bought with a price nor his purchased flock in the blood of God as Acts 20. the true Church is nor builded upon a rock as Mat. 16. 18. 4. Christ is not their Redeemer head High-priest King and Saviour and so neither are they his redeemed his members his people subjects and saved ones 5. Because the promises made to the chosâ—n and beleevers to give them a new heart regeneration sanctification remission of sinnes are made to them only and in Gods gratious intention and not to reprobates Whence I inferre these conclusions 1. Seperaâ—ists arguments must be weake for they all conclude that which we deny not and no other thing to
wit that haereticks adulterers forcerers blasphemers be no parts of Christs visible Church as it is a Church Yea we say that as the tree leg and the eye of glasse and the teeth of silver by art put in the body are no members of the living body so neither are these members of the true Church and so much doe all our Divines as Calvin Beza Junius Whittaker Tilen Piscator Pareus Vrsine Trâ—lâ—atius Sibrandus Amesius prove against Papists 2. Preaching of the Gospell is called a note of the Church and profession of faith a note of the Church both the former is a noâ—e of the teaching Church or minsteriall Church called Ecclesia docens The latter is a note of the professing Church who professeth the faith which we may call Ecclesia utens or Ecclesia practicè consideram 3. Profession of the faith is thought to be true either Subjectively 2. Objectively Or 3. Both Subjectively and Objectively Profession subjectively is true when the professor doeth indeed professe and avow the truth and doth not only seem to avow professe the truth and this is no note of a true Church because it may be in hypocrites who really goe to Church really heare the word and partake of the Sacraments but not sincerely Profession true objectively is when the professor doth professe that faith which is indeed sound and orthodox And this is a marke of the true teaching or ministeriall Church and may be in a visible company of professors who for the time are not sincere beleevers But a profession of the faith both objectively true and subjectively is when the object is orthodox and sound truth and the professor sincerely and gratiously and with an honest heart beleeveth and professeth the truth and this way profession of the truth is a true and essentiall note of a visible Church as it is a true Church and body of Christ and so are our Divines to be expounded in this doctrine about the notes of the visible Church But withall the visible Church is to be considered in abstracto under the notion of visibility and as visible and as performing all the externall acts of professing governing hearing preaching praising administrating the seales of the covenant binding and loosing in the externall and visible court of Christ and under this reduplication as obvious to mens eyes and therefore in this notion all externall professors who are not manifestly and openly scandalous are to be reputed members of the true visible Church and therefore this tearme would be considered a true visible Church For the adjective true may either be referred to the subject Church and so signifieth the true misticall body of Christ visibly and with all sincerely professing the sound faith Or it may be referred to the other adjective visible and so it is no other but a company of professors visible to our senses and so truely visible whose members may be unsound and false professours Then the question is whither visible Saints 1. forsaking all knowne sinnes 2. Doing all the knowne will of God 3. Growing in grace as saith Smith and the discov of N. Light be the only true matter of a right and lawfully consistent visible Church and congregation so as we are to joyne with no company of worshippers of God but such visible Saints as these and to acknowledge no other society a true Church whereto we are obliged to adjoyne our selves as members save only such a sâ—ciety Or is this sufficient for the nature and right constitution of a true visible Church that the company that we are to joyne our selves unto as visible members have in it these true markes of a visible Church The pure word of God purely preached and the Sacraments duely administred with discipline according to Gods word and withall a people externally professing the fore-said faith suppose they cannot give to us manifest tokens and evidences that they are effectually called and partakers of the divine nature and translated from death to life and are elected called and justified This latter we hold as the truth of God these of the Separation hold the former Now we must carefully distinguish here what are to be distinguished for there are many questions infolded here of divers natures For 1. The question is if the society have the word seales and right discipline and they professe the truth suppose their lives be wicked whether they should not be answerable to that which they professe I Answer No doubt they ought to be answerable to their light and obey the holy calling 2. What if many of them leade a life contrary to that which they professe and yet the governours use not the rod of discipline to censure them then whether should the members separate from that Church They ought to separate say the Separatists They ought not to separate from the Church and worship say we they are to stay with their Mother but to plead with her and modestly and seasonably say that Archippus and others doe not fulfill their Ministry which they have received of the Lord. 3. What if there be purity of doctrine but extreame wickednesse contrary to their doctrine whether is that company a true Church or not I answer it is a true visible and a teaching or right ministeriall Church but for as farre as can be seene not a holy not a sanctified Church and therefore must not be deserted and left 4. What if the guides receive in as members of the Church those who are knowne to be most scandalous and wicked and not such Saints as Paul writeth unto at Rome Corinth Ephesus Colosse Answ. The faults of the guides are not your faults who are private members you are to keepe publike communion in the publike ordinances of Christ but not to take part with their unfruitfull workes but rather to reprove them 5. What if the members of the Church can give no reall proofes that they are inwardly called sanctified and justified and yet you see no scandalous out-breakings in them to testifie the contrary I answer for as much as grace may be under many ashes as a peece of gold amongst mountaines of earth If they professe the sound faith they are a true visible Church and we are to acknowledge them as such and to joyne our selves as members to such a society or being already members we are to remaine in that society and not to separate from it in any sort The Separation doth complaine that in our Church are as Ainsworth saith swarmes of Atheists Idolaters Papists erronious and hereticall sectaries witches charmers sorcerers theeves adulterers lyars c. The Gentiles enter unto the temple of God the holy things of God the Sacraments indifferently communicated with cleane and uncleane circumcised and uncircumcised And amongst you are thousands who cannot tell how they shall be saved So say others as M. Barrow and Smith Hence inferre they our Church is a false Church not right constitute no Spouse of Christ no royall generation not
a people who hath Christ for King Priest and Prophet We on the contrary hold this as our fourth conclusion That howbeit openly and grossely prophane wicked persons as knowne atheists and mockers of Religion Idolaters papists heretickes sorcerers witches theeves adulterers c. are not to be keeped in the Church but to be excommunicated nor yet to be received into the Church as members thereof untill they give evidences of their repentance Yet we say that there is nothing required more as touching the essentiall properties and nature of being members of a Church as visible but that they professe before men the faith and desire the seales of the Covenant and crave fellowship with the visible Church which I prove 1. From the manner of receiving members in the Apostolike Church where nothing is required but a professed willingnesse to receive the Gospell howbeit they receive it not from their heart Act. 2. 41. then they that gladly received his word Peters word were baptized and the same day were added to the Church about three thousand soules v. 45. And they sold their possessions and parted them to all men Now amongst these glad receivers of the Gospell were Ananias and Saphira ch 4. v. 34 35 36 37. chap. 6. v. 1 2 3. It is true they are all charged by Peter to repent ere they be baptized and added to the Church but the Apostles require no more to make members of the visible Church â—ut 1. professed willing receiving of the word and this receiving expressed by an outward act of selling their goods which was but hypocâ—isie in Ananias and Saphira as the event declared yet were Ananias and Saphira for that time members of the Churches as truly visible and their acts of electing and chusing a Pastor and consenting to excommunicate scandalous persons in that time valid in Christs cout Yea suppose Ananias had been a preacher his preaching and baptizing should have been valid by grant of Separatists Also there is no more required by the Church of Simon Magus Act 8. v. 13. but beleeving historically at the sight of miracles and he was baptized and received into the Church presently Now this beleeving was not seene to be saving faith to Peter and the Apostles we know no wayes they had to know it seeing they know not the heart but what is said v. 13. he continued with Philip and wondred which an hypocrite might doe and he had been not long since an abhominable sorcerer and usurped the honour of God like a sacrilegious robber of the Almighty of his glory ver 9 10 11. And the like we may see of Demas who forsooke Paul 2 Tim. 4. 10 and followed the present world There was nothing to make him a member of the visible Church then but that for a while he followed Paul in his journeyes and professed the faith And the like must be said of Hymeneus and Alexander who for a time were members of the true Church as it is visible and a professing Church and this was knowne onely by their profession yet that they had but a bare profession is cleare seeing afterward they made shipwracke of faith 1 Tim. 1. 19 20. Now our brethren cannot deny but all these might and did exercise Ecclesiasticall Acts that were valid and ratified of God yea of binding and loosing and so nothing is required to make men members of a visible Church but such an outward profession of faith as may befall and hath been found in the fairest broidered and paâ—mented hypocrites who have been in the Apostolike Church Also what more was in Judas even after Christ had said Have not I chosen you twelve and one of you is a Devill yet the eleven say not Lord discover him to us that we may separate from him 2. Argument If the visible Church planted and constituted lawfuâ—ly be a draw-net wherein are fishes of all sorts and a house wherein are vessels of silver and gold and also base vessels of brasse and wood and a barne-floore wherein are wheat and a chaffe then a Church is rightly constitute howbeit there be in it beleevers and unbeleevers and hypocrites as members thereof And there is no more required to make members of the Church visible as visible but that they be within the net hearers of the word within the house as vessels of brasse within the barne-wals as chaffe in likenesse and appearance like wheat But the former is true and granted by Barrow Mat 13. 47. 2 Tim. 2. 20 21. Mat. 3. 12. Barrow saith Hypocrites are ever in the Church but it followeth not that the prophane multitude for that should be admitted members without proofe of their faith Answ. As the likenesse between the vessell of brasse and the vessell of gold and their being in one and the same Noblemans cuâ—table together is sufficient to make the brazen vessell a part of the plenishing of the house so the hypocrites externall profession and receiving the word and remaining in the Church as Ananias and Saphira and Simon Magus his beleeving his adhering to Philip his desire of Baptisme maketh him a member of the visible Church and the Church that these are in is a truly and right constitute visible Church 3. Argument If that Church be rightly constitute and a true Church where the man without the wedding garment commeth to the Marriage of the Kings sonne that is where multitudes were called and doe heare the Word and so come to the banquet of the Gospell that are not chosen and are destitute of the wedding garment of faith and Christs righteousnesse and all these that are professed hearers of the word and yet not sound beleevers Then a professed and externall use of the meanes if no outward out-breakings of scandals be in them maketh men members of the visible Church and the Church is rightly constitute where these are but the former is true Mat. 22. v. â— 3. c. v. 11 12 13. and this is a point most ordinary in every visible Assembly where the word is preached where some beleeve and some are hardened as in the parable of the sower where the seed falleth upon good ground and bringeth forth fruit and also upon the way side upon the rockie and thorny ground and in the parable of the ten Virgins to make them all the visible kingdome of heaven there is no more required but that all have lâ—mps that is a profession that they are the Bridegroomes men attending the wedding and yet five of them wanteth oyle And so when Christ preacheth and worketh miracles some beleeve and some beleeve not Joh. 7. 31 32 33. Acts 2. 48 49 50. compared with Acts 5. 1 2. 2 Cor. 15. 16. 4. Argument Israel was a right constituted Church The covenanted people of God an holy people to the Lord chosen to be a peculiar people to himselfe Deut. 14. 1 2. Deut. 29 10 11 12. a people on whom God set his love Deut. 7. 7. So happy as none was
like unto them saved by the Lord the shield of their help Deut. 33. 26 27 28 29. a people with whom God would not â—reake his oath and Covenant made with Abraham Judg. 2. 1. and their God 1 King 18. 36. 2 King 9. 6. and he calleth them his people Hos 6 Jer. 2. 13. married unto the Lord Ier. 3. 14. and married for ever Ier. 31. 36 37. Ier. 32 40 41. Hos 2. 19 20. Isa. 50. 30. Psal. 80. 30 31 32 33 c. A people who had avowed the Lord to be their God a people whom the Lord had avowed to be his peculiar people Deut. 26. 18 19. A people with goodly tents as the gardens by the rivers side as the trees of Libanus that the Lord hath planted Num. 24. 5 6. A people on whom the Lord looked upon and behold their time was the time of love over whom the Lord spread his skirts of love to whom God sware a Covenant and made them his Ezech. 16 6 7 8 9. the Lords heritage Ier. 12. 8. his pleasant sonne and deare childe Ier. 31. 20. his wel-beloved Isa. 5. 1. And yet because of transgressions and the backsliders and revolters that wre amongst them a perverse and crooked generation Deut. 32. 5. at that same time had waxed fat and thicke and lightly esteemed the rocke of their salvation v. 15. A people that had no eyes to see nor eares to heare nor a heart to perceive to that day Deut. 29. 4. spotted but not as his children Deut. 32. 5. a whorish people v. 16 17. Sodome and Gomorrah Deut 32. 32. Isa. 1. 10. an harlot city full of murtherers drosse not silver wine and water v. 21 22. uncircumcised in heart Ier. 9. 26. to God no better then uncircumcised Aethyopians Egyptians Philistines and Syrians Amos 9 7. these that played the harlot with many lovers in all the high-wayes Ier. 3. 1 2 3. The Prophets prophesying falsly the Priests bearing rule by their meanes and the people loving to have it so Ierem. 5. 31. The Princes wolves evening wolves Ezekiel 22. 27. What Apostasie was in Israel yea in all except Calâ—b and Joshuah What harlotrie with the Daughters of Moab and that vile Idoll Baal-peor both immediately before and immediately after the Spirit had called them a blessed people goodly plants trees of the Lords planting Numb 24. as may be seen in the Chapters of that story especially cap. 25. Hence unanswerably it must follow A Church visible is a rightly and lawfully constitute Church to the which we may joyne our selves as members and yet it is a mixed multitude of godly and prophane circumcised and cleane uncircumcised and uncleane And Moses and the Prophets knew Israel to be thus mixed and rebuked them and yet tearmeth them a married people to the Lord Jer. 3. 14. 5. Argument If the Church of the Jewes was a truly constitute visible Church a Church that did worship a God they knew and of whom was salvation Joh. 4. 22. in Christs dayes and had Moses chaire among them and teachers on that chaire whom Christ commanded to heare and obey Mat. 23 1 2 3. and was the Lords vineyard Mat. 21. 33. and the Lords building ver 42. and had the Kingdome of God amongst them ver 43. and the Lords Priests whom Christ commanded to acknowledge and obey Mat. 8. 4. and if the Lord countenanced their feasts preached in the Temple and their Synagogues John 5. 1. John 7. 37. John 8. 2. Luke 4. 16 17. and that daily and yet there was in their Church Scribes and Pharisees who perverted the Law of God Mat. 5. 21. who made the Law of God of none effect with their traditions Mat. 15. 6. and polluted all with will worship Mark 7. 6 7 8 c. Master builders who rejected Christ the corner stone of the building and slew the heire Christ to make the vineyard their owne Mat. 21. v. 42. v. 38 killers of the Prophets Mat. 23. 37. blinde guides who led the blind people in the â—â—tch Christs own who would not receive him Joh. 1. 12. if they slew the Lord of glory Acts 5. 30. Acts 2. 36. Gods house made a house of merchandise a den of theeves John 2. 16. the Priesthood was bought and sold Caiaphas was High-priest that yeare By Gods Law the High-Priest should have continued so all his life All this being true then a Church is a right constitute Church where the cleane and uncleane are mixed 6. The like I might prove of the Church of Coriath Galatia and Ephesus Thyatira Sardis Laodicea And the Separatists grant that hypocrites are often in the true visible Church then the presence of wicked men in a visible Church marrâ—th not the constitution of a Church onely Separatists would have a more accurate tryall taken before persons were received in the Church lest the uncircumcised enter into the temple of the Lord. But all the markes that we are to take before we receive members in the Church or they also is but an externall profession And the Apostles tooke no markes in receiving Ananias and Saphira Simon Magus Demas Alexander and Hymyneus but onely an hypocriticall profession as Calvin hath well observed and after him Cameron We have no certainty of faith to know that this or this man is a beleever that another man beleeveth and is saved is not the object of my faith 2. Hence it followeth that of a Congregation of forty professors foure and twenty may be and often are but hypocrites yet these foure aâ—d twenty suppose twelve of them be the Pastor Elders and Deacons are truly parts of the Church as visible Howbeit not parts of the Church as the Church and as the true and mystciall body of Jesus Christ and by this same reason all the fourty may be hypocrites for a time because they are but men who seeth not the heart who did congregate this Church and what is true of foure and twenty may befall fourty I say for a time they may be all hypocrites or at the first constitution of the Church but that all shall remaine so I thinke is against the wisedome and gracious intention of God who doth not set up a candle and candlesticke but to seeke his owne lost money And where he sendeth shepheards he hath there some lost sheep because the preaching of the word is an essentiall note of a visible Church Hence that Congregation of forty not yet converted is a true visible Church I meane a true teaching and Ministeriall Church in which are acts Pastorall of preaching baptizing binding and loosing that are valid and right Ecclesiastically For Baptisme there administrated was not to be repeated and such a Church by the Ministery therein is and may be converted to the saving faith of Christ yea and Separatists would call such an independent Congregation Hence 3. this must follow that as to make one a Pastor and to make twelve men Deacons and Elders and so
such as hath joynt power of the keyes even by the grant of Separatists with the rest of the Congregation there is not faith in Christ required as an essentiall element as I have proved from Mat. 7. 22. so to make these twelve members of a visible Congregation Faith is not essentially required suppose it be morally required so by that same reason to make other twelve members in that visible society in Christ faith were not required as to make Demas Ananias Saphira Magus Alexander Hyâ—â—â—cus and some moe of that kind a visible Church There is no more required but that profession of faith which moved the Apostolike Church to make them members of a true Church visible For what maketh formally a member of a Church visible to wit profession of the faith that same maketh forty also members of a visible Church and quae est ratio constitutiva partium est etiam constâ—tutiva totius That which formally constituteth a part doth formally constitute the whole where the whole is made of parts of the same nature as what is essentiall to make a quart of water that is essentiall to make a whole sea of water and every part of the visible Church is visible and a visible professour as visibility denominateth the whole so doth it every part of the whole And from this I inferre this fourth That a visible Church as visible doth not essentially and necessarily consist of believers but only of professours of beliefe so that a Church and a visible Church may be opposed by way of contradiction as a number of believers and a number of non-believers For a Church essentially is a number of believers and Christs mysticall body els it is not a Church that is a number of persons effectually called for this cause I grant an Eldership of a congregation a Synod Provinciall or Nationall are unproperly called a Church and howbeit we list not to strive about names we may grant our General assembly not to be properly called a National Church but by a figure for the believers of the Nation are properly the Nationall Church I meane a mysticall believing Church 5. Conclusion The preaching of the Word and seals therof ordinarily setled in a visible society is the essentiall note and marke of a true Church It is weak and vaine that Ainsworth Robinson Canne and Master Smith say The preaching of the Word is no essentiall marke of the true Church and why Because forsooth our Masters learned from Barrow to say It is preached to the Reprobate to whom it is the â—avour of death unto death and it was preached to the scoffing Athenians by Paul Act. 17. and yet the Athenians were not a true Church But we distinguish three things here There is 1. The single and occasionall preaching of the Word 2. The setled preaching of the Word the setling of the Candle-sticke and Kingdome to dwell amongst a people 3. The preached Word with the seales especially the Sacrament of the Lords Supper The single and occasionall preaching or by concomitancy as to a people unconverted and unbelievers and so it is not an essentiall note of the true Church but a meane to gather a Church to God and this they proove and no more and so doe the Belgicke Arminians and Socinians proove against our reformed Churches that it is no marke of the Church so Episcopius the Remonstrants the Catechise of Raccovia and Socinus but this is as if one would say the colours and armes of such a King in warre are carried through the enemies fields as well as through the Kingsland therfore they are not the proper colours of such a King 2. The setled preaching of the Word established and remaining in a Church as the standing candlestick the fixed kingdome of God is the essentiall mark of the true Church and preached in Gods blessed decree of Election only for and to the chosen believers and as it were in the bie to the prophane reprobates amongst them and this they cannot be able to improove And it was M. Smiths vanity to say the Reformed Churches have the Word as the thiefe hath the honest mans purse Anabaptists reason just that way See Calvin 3. The preaching of the Word and the seales of the setled covenant is a means of confirming those that are already converted Neither is it much against us that the Word is preached to the reprobate for the preaching of the Word is considered either in it selfe and actu primo and so it is a mark of the visible Church Or. 2. As it is effectuall by the Spirit of Jesus and actu secundo and so it is an essentiall marke of the true Church and lively body of Christ according to that cited by Whittaker Calvin Willet Paraeus Beza Vrsine Bucanus and our Divines John 1â— My Sheepe heare my voyce Hence observe a vile Doctrine of Separatists holden also by Socinians and Arrainians as Episcopius the Belgicke Remonstrants Socinus the Raccovian Catechise and â—heophil Nicolaides That all gifted persons may preach publikely and that there is no necâ—ssity of câ—lling of Pastors by the Presbytery so doe they teach That there can be no lawfull Pastors now after the Apostacy of of Antichrist till tâ—ere be a constitute Church of believers to choose them or a flocke to them to watch over And therefore conversion is ordinarily wrought say they by private Christians that have the gift to pâ—ophecy publikely and yet are not Pastours for private Christians doe gather the Church say they Pastours doe not ordinarily convert they do only confirme the church of Saints already converted Against which we say The new Testament of Christ telleth us of no officers to preach in Christs name for the perfecting of the Saints the worke of the Ministry edifying of the body of Christ but Pastors and Doctors Eph. 4. 11 12. 2. None but such as have power of binding and loosing by the preaching of the Word Joh. 20. 3. Those to whom Christ giveth power of publick teaching to those he giveth power of Baptizing Mat. 28. 18 19. and sendeth them as his Father sent him 4. How shall they preach except they be sent Rom. 10. 14. Sending in the Apostolike Church was by praying and the laying on of the hands of the Presbytery 1 Tim. 4. 14. 5. There is nothing more ordinary then that Pastors as Pastors and by vertue of their pastorall office convert soules 1. Faith is begotten by hearing a sent â—reacher Rom. 10. 14 15. Ministers by whom we beleeve 1 Cor. 3. 9. by them we receive the Spirit by the hearing of Faith Gal 3. 2. 2. People are begotten over aâ—aine by them as by spirituall fathers and mothers 1 Cor. 4. 15. Gal 4. 19. 3. Pastors are the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 wooers and under-suters to gaine the Brides consent to marry the lovely Bridegroome Christ Jesus Joh. 2. â—9 2 Cor 11. 2 3. 4.
Their Word is the savour of life unto life unto some and the savour of death unto death unto others 2 Cor. 2. 16. They are to preach with all gentlenesse waiting if God peradventure will give repentance to the gain-sayers 2 Tim 2. 24 25 26. 5. They are Embassadours in Christs steed beseeching men to be reconâ—iled unto God a Cor 5. 20. 6. The weapons of their warfare are mighty through God to fling downe strong holds of unbeliefe to cast downe imaginatims and every high thing that exalteth it selfe against the knowledge of God and to bring unto captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ 2 Cor 10. 4 5. and so they are to pull men out of the hands of Satan 7. They are to seeke the Lords Sheep Ezek. 34 4. Hence the object and matter that a Pastor is to worke on as a Pastor is unbelievers unborne men gain-sayers proud disobedient keeping strong holds against Christ So the nature of the Pastors office is to open the eyes of the blinde to turne them from darknesse to light and from the power of Satan unto God that they may receive forgivenesse of sinnes Act 26. 18. and this evidently evinceth that the visible and rightly constitute Church where God hath erected a Ministery is a number of blinded sinners in Satans power and in the power of darknesse for the most part while God by a Ministery delivers them suppose they professe the Faith It is also a Doctrine unknowne to the Word of God that the Church of Christ is gathered and edified formally as a Church without Christs Ministers that are sent to gaine the consent of the Bride to marry the Bridegroome Christ. It is also unknown to Scripture that Prophets are no Pastors and have no power of the pastorall calling or sâ—ales of the Covenant Should those bee the ordinary officers of Christ that gather sinners in to Christ and convert to the Faith of Jesus men dead in sins and trespasses who yet are neither Pastours nor Doctours sent by Christ and his Church 6. Conclusion Seeing then the Church hath no other marke and rule to looke unto in the receiving in of members into a visible Church but externall profession which is no infallible marke of a true convert the Church is rightly constitute where all borne within the visible Church and professing the Faith are received suppose many wicked persons be there Now seeing time favour of men prosperity accompanying the Gospell bring many into the Church so the Magistrate may compell men to adjoyn themselves to the true Church O saith Master Barrow Ainsworth Mr. Canne The blast of the Kings horne can make no man a member of Christs body that must be done willingly and by the Spirit of Christ not by compulsion The Magistrate say they can worke faith in none he ought indeed to abolish Idolatry set up the true Worship of God suppresse errours cause the truth to be taught yet he cannot constrain men to joyne to the Church I answer This is a senslesse reason for how doth the Magistrate abolish Idolatry set up the true worship of God It is I hope by externall force and power For the Magistrate as the Magistrate doth nothing but by an externall coactive power The Magistrate useth the sword not reasons preaching and counsell Yea this way he cannot abolish idolatry nor erect the pure worship of God for it is a worke of Gods Spirit and a willing worke that a subject forsake Idols and worship God purely at the command of a King as it is the worke of God that he believe in Christ and joyn himselfe to the Church of true believers 2. That a man by externall profession adjoyn himself to the true visible Church is not a work of saving faith as our Masters dreame for Simon Magus and Ananias and Saphira a turned members of the visible Church upon as small motives as the command of a King upon the motive of gaine and honour and were never a whit nearer Christ for all this 3. The Magistrate cannot compell men to believe nor can the Minister by preaching or the power of the keys doe it except Gods Spirit doe it but as Juniusâ—aith â—aith he may compell men to professe beliefe but not to believe he may compell to the externall meanes not to the end 2. The Magistrate as Voetius saith may compell by remooving impediments as idols and false teachers and authoritatively 2. compell to the means Now it shall be easie to answer their Objections who wouâ—d prove that Saints are the onely matter of a rightly and lawfully constitute visible church First Master Barrow reasoneth against us thus The materiall Temple from the very foundation was of choyse costly stones the beames of choyse Cedars and Algummim-trees which typified the church of the new Testament Isa. 54. 11. Behold I will lay thy stones with carbuncle and thy foundations with Saphirs c. Isâ— 6. 17. for brasse I will bring gold Isa. 35. 8. No Lyon nor ravenous beast shall be in the mountaine of the Lord but the redeemed of the Lord Jer. 31. 34. They shall all know me from the least of them to the greatest in this mountaine there shall be no cockatrise aspe lyon leopard untill they have left their poyson Isaiah 11. 6. Answer first These places none except Anabaptists can apply according to the letter to the Church independent of every Parish may not the Separatists who â—each that there is rotten timber in their visible Temple and chalke stones Lyons Wolves Cockatrices for saith Barrow Ainsworth and all their side there are always in the Church glorious Hypocrites now such as Judas Demas Hymeneus and such hypocrites are not precious stones gold taught of God there is not a visible Church of a congregation out of Heaven where there is not a hypocrite and an unbeliever 2. The place Isa. 54. and Jer 31. is understood of the Catholick Church with whom the covenant of grace is made Isa. 54. 10. Jer 31. 31. and this covenant is not everlasting nor an eternall covenant to any one Parish Church yea nor to a Nationall Church nor to Corinth Ephesus Pergamus all which particular Churches are fallen under horrible Idolatry and in those Mountains are Lyons and Leopards and therfore as Musculus Calvin Hierom and the course of the Text cleareth he is speaking of the begunne holinesse of the whole Church of the redeemed under Christ which is finally and fully accomplished in Heaven for what use should there be of excommunication and of the Pastors and Porters care to hold out and cast out by the Church censures Lyons Leopards Cockatrices if all and every one in the Church be taught of God 3. It is beside the Text to make the Temple of Jerusalem a type of a Parish congregation it was a type of Christ Iohn 2. 21. of every beleever 1 Cor. 6. 19. and of the whole Catholike Church 4. Where it is
said There shall be no ravenous beast in the Mountaine of the Lord the Mountaine of the Lord is not taken litterally for Mount Sion as if in every little Mountaine of a visible congregation made up of so many Saints there were not a Iudas amongst them But by the Mountaine of the Lord is meaned the Catholike Church alluding to the visible Mount Sion a type of the Church of Christ through all the earth 2. They dispute thus God in all ages hath appointed and made a separation of his people from the world before the Law under the Law and now in the time of the Gospell Gen. 4. 6. Exod. 6. 3. Levit. 20. 24. Ezech. 6. 11. Psal. 84. 10. Answ. God hath made a separation of the Church from the wicked but not such a separation as there remaineth no mixture of hypocrites and unbeleevers in the Church The Church was separated from Caines seede yet was there Idolatry defection and wickednesse in the Church till God charged Abraham to leave his country and his fathers house God separated his Israel from Egypt but so that there was much Idolatry and wickednesse in Israel thus separated God may and doth separate his owne from Egypt 〈◊〉 in Marriage and mixture with the Canaanites 〈…〉 that are born in the visible Church and professe 〈…〉 us should not be received in the Church 〈…〉 be all taught of God all precious stones all plants of righteousnesse it followeth no way but the contrary therefore because they are unbeleevers under the power and chaines of Sathan and ignorance they are to be received in a communion with the Church to be hearers of the word that they may be all taught of God and all made righteous plants 3. They reason thus The wicked have not Christ for their head So the guide to Zion A true visible Church say the Separatists is the Temple of the Lord the body of Christ a kingdome of Priests a Church of Saints the houshold and Kingdome of God Yea saith Barrow a people chosen redeemed Saints by calling partakers of the most precious faith and glorious hope the humble obedient loving Sheepe of Christ a sheepe-fold watched by discipline a garden well inclosed here entreth no Cananite every vessell is holy Answ. 1. The body of Christ a Kingdome of Priests and Saints and these that are partakers of the holy faith are the chosen of God ordained for glory in his decree of election and effectually called and justified but the adversaries say that the visible Church is a company of Saints by calling where saith Ainsworth there be many called but few chosen hence this argument will prove that none no hypocrites can be in the visible Church as a Church is indeed Christs body Now the Church visible as a Church is indeed Christs body a reyall Priest-hood a chosen generation but as visible it is sufficient that the Church be a royall Priest-hood only in profession and so possibly for a while no royall Priesthood no chosen generation as I have observed before But say they hypocrites are not indeed and really members of the true visible Church but only in reputation as an eye of glasse is not indeed a true part of the body I answer then our adversaries give us no right description of the true naturall and lively members of the true visible Church he that would give such a definition of a man as agreeth both to a living man and to a pictured or painted man were but a painted Logician For they acknowledge the true parts of a visible Church to be a chosen people a royall generation partakers of the holy faith either they are really and in Gods esteem a chosen people c. And so we are at a point there be none members of a visible Church none ought to heare the word as members of the Church none ought to preach baptize bind and loose with the rest of the Congregation but these that are really chosen and effectually called which cannot be said Ainsworth then and M. Canne and Smith doe but mocke us when they say The true matter of a true visible Church are Saints in profession and in the judgement of charity for that is not enough they must be according to the Texts of Scripture alledged by Barrow not onely in the judgement of charity but in Gods estimation and in the judgement of verity a chosen people a royall generation If the true matter of the true visible Church be a chosen generation and a royall Priest-hood only in profession the places cited will not help them for Peter 1 Pet. 2. writeth not to an independent Congregation who are in profession only a chosen people But he writeth to the Catholick Church even to all the dispersed and sanctified and regenerated in Pontus Galatia Cappadocia Asia and Bythinia who were not only a chosen generation in profession but also really and in Gods decree of election Neither Peter nor Isaiah are of purpose to teach that in the independent Congregation of the New Testament there are none but all righteous men no stones to speake with Isaiah but Saphires and Carbuncles no thornes and briers but only the firre and the myrtle trees no iron and brasse but all gold and silver no Cananite no Lyon no uncleane vessell this they shall not find in the independent Congregations of Separatists nor can it be in the visible Church on earth except they seeke the Anabaptists Church a man in the Moone 4. They reason thus The wicked are expresly forbidden in the word of God for medling with his Covenant and ordinances Psal. 50. So the guide to Zion Answ. The wicked are forbidden to speake of Gods Law and his Covenant in some case so long as they hate to be reformed but they are not simply forbidden but hence it followeth not that they should not be ordinary hearers of the word but rather they are to be hearers and so members of the visible Church seing faith commeth by hearing 2. From this argument is nothing concluded against us for such adulterers theeves and slanderers as are forbidden to take Gods Law in their mouth Psal. 50. are to be cast out of the Church and the question is if they be not cast out if the Church for that be no true Church that we should remaine in they say it leaveth off to be a true visible Church we deny 5. There is saith Ainsworth proclaimed by God himselfe enmity and warre betwixt the seede of the woman and the seede of the Serpent and there is no communion nor fellowship betwixt Christ and Beliall light and darknesse Therefore the prophane and the godly cannot be mixed together in one visible society as two contraries are not capeable of one and the same forme Answ. This will prove that which is not denyed that the godly and ungodly cannot agree well together suppose the ungodly be latent hypocrites for they have two contrary natures as fire and water and
seducing his people CHAP. X. Quest. 10. Whither or no it be lawfull to seperate from a true Church visible for the corruption of teachers and the wickednesse of Pastours and professours where Faith is begotten by the preaching of professed truth THat we may the more orderly proceed these distinctions are to be considered as making way to cleare the question 1. There is a separation in the visible Church and a Separation out of and from the visible Church 2. There is a Separation totall and whole from any visible communion with the Church or partiall and in part from a point of Doctrine or practise of the Church in a particular only 3. There is a Separation negative when we deny the practise of an errour with silence or refuse publike communion with the Church but doe not erect a new Church within the Church There is a separation positive when we doe not only refuse practise of errours and protest and pleade against them but also erect a new visible Church 4. As there is a three-fold communion 1. in Baptisme 2. in hearing of the Word 3. in communicating with the Church at the Lords Supper so there is a three-fold separation answerable therunto 5. The influence of a worship corrupt may either be thought to come from the persons with whom we worship or 2. from the matter of the worship if corrupt and that either 1. by practise or 2. by not practising somthing that an affirmative commandement of God impaseth on us 6. A communion in worship either implyeth a consent and approbation of the worship or no consent at all 7. A communion of worship when the worship in the matter is lawfull yet for the profession may be most unlawfull as to heare a Jesuite preach sound Doctrine 8. There is a separation from a friendly familiarity and from a communion in worship 1. Conclusion We are to separate in the true visible Church from all communion wherin need-force we cannot choose but sinne suppose we separate not from the Church Eph. 5. 11. Have no fellowship with the unfruitfull workes of darkenesse but rather reproove them Col. 2. â—1 Touch not taste not handle not 2 Epist. John Bid him not God speed that bringeth another doctrine 2. Conclusion from the first conclusion it will follow that a separation in part I meane in some acts of publike worship when we cannot chuse but fall in sin from a true Church is lawfull as we must separate from an idolatrous communion where the bread is adored for then the Lords Table is made an Idols Table and yet we are not totally and wholly to separate from the Church and hearing of the word and praiers and praises of that Church as we shall heare 3. Conclusion Anent separation from Rome and spirituall Babel We have two parties to satisfie if they would in reason be informed 1. Papists 2. Separatists opposers of government Presbyteriall who thinke we have all as good reason to separate from our selves and Presbyteriall Churches as from Babel But I shall speake a little of the first in some few Theses considerable for our purpose 1. Consideration It is most false that Bellarmine saith Churches all withered as branches separated from trees when they separated from Rome Joseph grew as a fruitfull Branch and blessings was on the top of his head when he was separated from his Brethren Deut. 33. 16. For 1. The contrary is seene in the reformed Churches who never flourished as since our separation from Rome 2. The Churches in Asia and Africa and especially the Greeke Church flourished ever since and they separated from Rome and had famous learned men in them after the separation as Theophylact Damascen Occumenius Zonaras Cedrenus Elias Cretensis Basil Nilus and many others and especially the Aethiopian and Armenian Churches had both their Bishops and Assemblies howbeit generall they could not have seeing they were apart not the whole Church 2. Consideration The faithfull before Luther the Albigenses Waldenses and others yea the Romane Doctors themselves holding the fundamentall points with some hay and stubble builded upon the foundation made a negative Separation from Babylon and did neither hold nor professe their grosse Idolatries and other fundamentall errours howbeit they did not hold them positively by erecting a new Church because the separation was then in the blade and not ripe for the Harvest 3. Consideration We hold that Rome made the Separation from the Reformed Churches and not we from them as the rotten wall maketh the schisme in the house when the house standeth still and the rotten wall falleth 1. Because we left not Christianity in Rome but the leprosie of Popery growing upon Christianity seeing we kept the Apostolike faith and did positively separate from the pookes blybes and ulcers of Christian Rome 2. We did not separate from the Westerne Churches either collective or representatively gathered in a generall Councell 3. We departed not from a Nationall Provinciall or Parishonall Church or Pastors that we had before nor from the materiall Temples and Churches except that some not very considerable hyrelings and idoll-pastours would not goe before us 4. And because the succession of fundamentall truths from generations to generations is as necessary as the perpetuall existence of the true Catholick Church while the covenant with night and day and the ordinances of Heaven shall continue Jer 31. 37. therfore there were a succession of professours and members of the Catholick Church that did ever hold these fundamentals which we to this day hold against Rome suppose Histories cannot cleare the particular persons by name 5. We have not separated from Romes baptisme and ordination of Pastors according to the substance of the act nor from the letter of the twelve Articles of the Creed and contents of the old and new Testament as they stand with relation to the mind and intent of the Holy Ghost howbeit we have left the false interpretations of the Lords of poore peoples Faith and Consciences 4. Consideration We separate not from acts of love to have the reliques of Babel saved howbeit we have separated from communion in faith and worship 5. Consideration The essentiall ingredients and reasons of a lawfull divorce are here 1. we could not lye in one bed with that sometime sister Church of Rome but our skin behoved to rub upon her botch-boyle and therfore we did separate from nothing but corruption 2. There was there persecutions and in that we are patients and ejected rather then departers on foot and horse 3. A professed dominion over our consciences 4. Necessity of receiving the marke of the beast and so the plagues of the beast to worship Images and the worke of mens hands a necessity of professing fundamentall errours that subvert the foundation of faith did all necessitate our seperation 6. Consideration The Church of believers might lawfully use justâ tutelâ aetâ—rnae salutis a necessary defence for salvation and forsake her corrupt guides and choose others
is a Church not assembled to prophecying and praying but to rebuking to judiciall censuring by binding and loosing where all private persons as their witnesses the offended brother be they publike or be they private persons yea suppose a woman otherwise forbidden to speake in the Church met for worship 1 Cor. 14. may speake in this Church for a woman may offend and be excommunicate or be offended for scandals betwixt woman and woman is to be removed 3. The Church spoken of here is such a superiour and judiciall seat as ought to be obeyed in the Lord under the paine of excommunication and to whose voice and sentence coactive the contumacious is said to be disobedient as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to disobey in the holy tongues doth signifie But a multitude of beleevers are no such superiour and judiciall seat as may be obeyed or disobeyed by inferiours under the paine of excommunication for it is without the warrant of Gods Word that all Christians Pastors Elders and Doctors are under the judiciall and coactive sentence of beleevers 4. What ever Church may excommunicate every member thereof convened with the Church may inflict all inferiour censures also for whosoever may inflict judicially the greater punishment may inflict the lesse but all the members of the Church of beleevers may not in this assembled Church inflict lesser punishments For example a woman a sonne a servant who are all equally the true members of the true Church of beleevers being beleeving professors may not in an assembled Congregation rebuke publikely her husband and Pastor his Father and Master For publike rebuking being a degree of teaching and especially in the assembled Church the Apostle will not have the woman to teach publikely and usurpe authority over the man nor any to exhort and rebuke in the Church but Pastors 5. These to whom the essence and definition of a Ministeriall Church having power to excommunicate as this Church hath that power Mat. 18. 17. doth necessarily and essentially belong these and these only are here understood under the name of the Church But so it is that the essence and definition of a Ministeriall Church having power to excommunicate agreeth not necessarily and essentially to a company of true beleevers assembled Church-wayes ergo by the name of a Church here is no wayes understood the Church of true beleevers assembled Church-wayes The proposition is undenyable for out of the words may be gathered a definition of a Ministeriall Church to wit an Assembly that has power of preaching and binding and loosing and so of all Church-censures I prove the assumption To have power to preach convene before them and judicially cognosce and sentence and excommunicate a contumacious member doth agree to these that by no necessity are beleevers because to have power to preach and excommunicate essentially require no more but that persons be 1. professors of the truth 2. that they be gifted to preach and governe 3. that they be duely called thereunto by the Church as Judas and others are but all these three are and may be in a company in whom is no saving faith as the word and experience cleare For howbeit to be a called Pastor the like I say of Elders Doctors Deacons and visible professors require faith in Christ as a gracious element and necessary ingredient to make him a saved man Yet it is not required to the essence of a Pastor Yea Parker Answorth and authors of Presbyter govern ex acknowledge professors to be members of a visible Church and so to have power of the keyes who are but rotten hypocrites and what wonder seeing God onely seeth the heart and men cannot see farre in a milstone 6. All the arguments proving that the power of the keyes is not given to all beleevers but onely to the overseers of the Church and proving that the government of Christs house is not popular but in the hands of the Elders proveth the same for this is a ruling and authoritative and judging Church 7. Pareus saith The Church here meaned is the Church to be complained unto but none can complaine to a multitude 8. The practise of the Apostolike Church 1 Cor. 1. The house of Eloe being grieved with the schisme of Corinth telleth not the whole beleevers but telleth it to Paul and in him to the Pastors who had the rod of discipline in their hands and the Spirit of God giveth rules about receiving complaints to the Eldership Tit. 1. 13. and never to all beleevers therefore the rebuking and excommunicating Church spoken of here must be the Church of Elders 9. The Church here is those to whom the keyes are given Mat. 16. 19. I will give to thee the keyes whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven but here the keyes are given to Peter and in him to the Apostles and those to whom he said Joh. 20. Whose sinnes ye forgive they are forgiven and whose sinnes ye retaine they are retained for that is to binde and loose in heaven as they should bind and loose on earth and to whom he said As my Father sent me so send I you but this Christ said to the Church of the Apostles and Elders for he hath not sent every beleever as his Father sent him for that is a Pastorall sending as is cleare from Mat. â—8 18. All power is given to me in heaven and in earth Hence he draweth a conclusion v. 19. Goe therefore and teach c. Which clearly includeth the keyes and power of preaching baptizing and governing which agreeth not to all beleevers in any tollerable sense As Theophilact Chrysostome Cyrill August Hieron Cyprian teach and that this place Ioh. 20. As my Father sent me so send I you cannot be common to all beleevers the Fathers teach Theophilact in loc He saith to them Enter ye in my ministeriall charge Cyrill in loc Chrysost. ibid. Creati sunt totius orbis Doctores Aug. in Psa. 44. Hieron Epist. and Evagrin Cyprian Epist. 41. in locum Pauli omnes successisse 10. The onely apparent Argument against this interpretation is weake and so our interpretation must stand For they say that the word Church is never taken but for a company of beleevers and the redeemed Eph. 2. 20. builded on the rocke Christ. I deny not but the word Church is very sparingly taken for the overseers onely yet it is taken in that sense and there is reason why it cannot bee otherwise taken in this place for Revelation 2. The Angell of the Church of Ephesus Smyrna c. standeth for the whole Church and the whole Church is written unto under the name of the Angell of such a Church Which may be demonstrated thus 1. because not only the Ministers but the people that have eares to heare are all
have we a true Ministry and there was a Church in Rome before the Lateran Councell which could constitute a true Ministry as I cleare in these distinctions for the Church of Rome it hath these parts 1. Distinction 1. The court of Rome and Clergy 2. The seduced people 2. Distinction There is a teaching court professing and teaching Popery and obtruding it upon the consciences of others 2. There is a people professing and believing this with heat of zeal 3. A people misled ignorant not doubting but following 4. There is a people of God Come out of her my people ergo there is a covenanted people of God there 2 Thess. Antichrist shall sit in the Temple of God ergo GOD hath a Temple in Rome A third Distinction is necessary a true Church is one thing veritate Metaphysicâ with the verity of essence as a sick-man or a man wanting a legg is a true man and hath a reasonable soule in him and a true Church veritate Ethicâ a Church morally true that is a sound whole a pure Church professing the sound faith that is another thing Rome is a sick-sick-Church and a maimed and lamed Church wanting legs and armes and so is not morally a true Church for vile corruption of Doctrine is there as we say a thief is not a true man but a false and a taking man yet he hath a mans nature and a reasonable soule in him the question is if Rome have the soul life and being of a Church A fourth Distinction is That the question is either of a teaching Church and a Ministeriall professing Christ the Word and Baptisme or of a believing Church and Spouse of Christ. The fifth Distinction is If Rome relatively be a wife in comparison of other Churches or if Rome absolutely in her self be a Church The sixth Distinction is If Rome be jure and merito a Spouse or an Harlot or de facto a wife not having received a Bill of Divorcement as the Church of the Iewes The seventh Distinction is If Rome according to some parts be a Spouse and keepeth any list of marriage kindnes to her husband or if she be according to other parts a cast off whore The eighth and last is if Rome be materially a Church having in it the Doctrine of faith or if formally it bee no Church having no professed faith that hath the nature of faith Hence shortly I say The Court of Rome as Popish is the falling-sicknesse of the Church not the Church But the same Court teaching something of Christ baptisme good-works c hath something of the life and being of a Church howbeit she be not a whole Church her skinne being leprous pocky and polluted 1. Because in a Church that is no Church there cannot be a true feale of Gods covenant but in the Court of Rome there is true baptisme for we baptize not againe children once baptized there some of the Separation called it Idoll-baptisme and no baptisme which is Anabaptisme for then all converted Papists must be baptized againe no lesse then converted Turkes and Iewes But 1. The covenant is there Come out of her my people then their baptisme confirmeth this covenant 2. Circumcision even in apostate Israel is true circumcision her barnes the Lords barnes Ezech. 16. 21. hee is Israels God the holy one of Israel in the midst thereof In Hezokiahs reformation the people ate the Passeover and yet all had corrupted their wayes and had beene a long time worshipping Idols and they are not 2 Chro. 30. circumcised againe and yet Exod. 12. none but the circumcised might eate the ` Passeover 2. Because the word of God and so the contract of Marriage is professed amongst them and so there is an externall active calling there and the word of the covenant sounding amongst them and a passive calling also because many secretly believe and obey 3. Many fundamentall truths are taught that may beget faith and so there are true and valid pastorall acts in that Church 2. I say there is an hid and invisible Church and Temple in Rome and these God warneth to come out of Babel and these we by writings cry unto that they would forsake their harlot mother and worship the Lord in truth and they obey howbeit they dare not professe the truth But the teaching Church teaching Popery and fundamentall truths and obtruding them upon the consciences of others is not the believing Church and so not the spouse and body of Christ. 3. Rome now compared with Paules Rome which he did write unto is no Church no spouse as a whorish wife compared with her selfe in her first moneth to her Husband while she was chaste is now when she imbraceth the bosome of a stranger no wife and yet Rome compared with Indians who worship Sathan with Persians who worship the Sunne with the Egyptians who worshipped gods growing in their gardâ—ns as Oneons and Garlick for so Juvenal O sanctas gentes quibus haec nascuntur in hortis Numina I say being compared with these they are the Lords Temple 2 Thes. 24. Rev. 18. 4. and his Wife as one saith well apostate Israel compared with Syrians Philistines is counted Gods people having the true God for their God 2 King 5. 8 15 17. But being compared with Judah which ruled with God and was faithfull with the Saints is called no wife but an harlot Hose 2. 2 5. 4. 15. 5. 3 4. 4. Rome iure and merito in her bad deserving to her Lord is no wife no Church no spouse no people in covenant with God and yet de facto and formally in possession in profession and for matrimoniall tables which she keepeth is a Church and differeth from the Jewes as a Church and no Church 1. Because albeit the Jewes have the old Testament which implicity and by interpretation is the covenant yet they want two things which Rome hath which destroyeth the essence of a true Church 1. The Iewes give not so much as a virtuall consent to the Marriage and the very externall active calling and invitation to come to Christ and all ministeriall publishing of the newes of salvation is removed from them Acts 13. 46. but there is a virtuall consent to the Marriage with Christ in Rome and salvation there in the word and some ministeriall and pastorall publication thereof as in the seed 2. Iewes directly oppugne the Cardinall foundation of salvation 1 Cor. 3. 11. Acts 4. 12. 1 Thes. 2. 15 16. Christ Jesus Papists professe him and have his seales amongst them especially baptisme 5. Rome in concreto according to her best part to wit secret beleevers groaning and sighing in Egypts bondage is a true Church but Rome in abstracto the faction of Papists as Papists are no spouse of Christ but the whore of Babel and mother of fornications 6. Howsoever Rome be materially a true Church having the materiall object of faith the doctrine of the old and new Testament common with us yet formally
they are not one Church with us but there is a reall and essentiall separation betwixt us and them as betwixt a true Church and an Antichristian Church a spouse of Christ and no spouse for faith relatively taken faith of many united in one society doth essentially constitute a Church and the formall object of their faith is the word of the Church and of men or Gods word as expounded by men and our faiths object formall is the word of God as the word of God and so doe formally differ 7. Howbeit I say Rome is a Church teaching and professing and hath something of the life and being of a true Church yet I hold not that Rome is Christs body nor his wife Neither meane I with our late novators Prelates and their faction sometimes in this Land and now in England that Rome is a true Church as they taught that is so a true Church as 1. We erred in separating from that leaper whore 2. That her errours are not fundamentall and that we and this mother can be reconciled and bedde together But what I say is holden by our Divines Calvin Junius Whittaker that famous Divine Rivetus that most learned Professor Gilbertus Voetius and our Divines Voetius maketh nine rankes of these that were not dyed and engrained Papists in the popish Church 1. Some deceived 2. Some compelled 3. Some ignorant 4. Some carelesse who tookâ— not heed to that faith 5. Some doubting 6. Some loathing it 7. Some sighing 8. Some opposing and contradicting it 9. Some separating from it Now seeing our Church hath nothing to doe with Rome and our ministry lawfull Separatists may hence be satisfied Neither yet doe I thinke with Spalato de repub Eccles. in ostensione error Suarezij cap. 1. pag. 887 888. That the Roimane Church is erronious onely in excesse seeing â—n substantiall points there is such defect also as averteth aith 4. Conclusion There be three sorts that have communion rightly with our Church 1. Infants baptised for baptisme is a seale of their fellowship with Christ and therefore of communion with the Church because Separatists will have none members of the Church while they can give proofes thereof by signes of regeneration infants must be without the Church as Infidels and Turks for none are the Church to them but the royall generation partakers of the holy faith taught of God called and separated from the world the rest are without hence baptisme shall either seale no entring of infants in the Church contrary to Gods word or the baptizing of infants is not lawfull as Anabaptists teach 2. The hearers of the word have a communion with the Church as is cleare seeing these that eate of one bread are one body these that professe in the hearing of the word that same faith are also that same body in profession yet excommunicate persons are admitted as hearers of the word Hence only the extreame and great excommunication 1 Cor. 16. 22. cutteth of men from being simply no members of the Church that excommunication that maketh the party as a heathen and Publican supposeth him still to be a brother and hearer of the word 2 Thes. 3. 14 15. And all these are members of the Church and yet not necessarily converted 3. The regenerate and beleevers that communicate of one bread and one cup at the Lords Table are most neerely and properly members of one visible body and none of these are to separate from Christs body 5. Conclusion It is not lawfull to separate from any worship of the Church for the sinnes of the fellow-worshippers whether they be officers or private Christians 1. Because Scribes and Pharisees and the Church in Christs dayes was a most perverse Church the rulers perverted the Law Mat. 5. 21. denyed that hatred and rash anger was a sinne ver 22. or heart adultery a sin Made the commandement of God of no effect by their traditions Mat. 15. 6. polluted the worship with superstition and will-worship ver 7. 8. Mark 7. 6 7 8. said it was nothing to sweare by the Temple devoured widdows houses made their proselites children of damnation Mat. 13. 14 15 16. were blind guides filled the measure of their fathers wrath slew the Lord of glory 1 Cor. 2. 8 9. killed and crucisied the Prophets were blind guides and the blind people followed them and slew the Lord of glory also The Priest-hood was keeped by Moyen Caiphas was High-priest that yeare But Christ by practice and precept forbad to separate from this Church Ergo c The assumption is cleare Mat. 23. They sit in Moses his chaire heare them Mat. 10. 6 7. Goe to the lost sheepe of the house of Israel and preach And Christ and his Disciples observed their feasts preached in the Temple and Synagogues Joh. 1. 7 37. Joh 8. 2. Luk. 4. 16. Luk. 1. 9. Christ reasoned with them about religion Ioh. 10. 24 25 26. Ainsworth replyeth to this Christ and his Disciples separated from the corruptions of the Iewish Church and from false Churches as from the Samaritanes Answ. We acknowledge separation from corruption but not from the worship of corrupters when they keepe the foundation the Samaratine-Church had not the foundation but worshipped they knew not what neither was there salvation in their Church Iohn 4. 2. but there was the true God worshipped among the Iewes and salvation amongst them 2. Ainsworth replyeth The Iewish Church consisted still as Moses had ordained Levit. 20. 24. of a people separated from the heathen and were the children of the Prophets and covenant Joh. 4. 9. Acts 3. 25. but your Church consisteth of an unseparated people Answ. The Priest-hood was changed Ioh. 11. 51. Caiphas was High-priest that yeare against the Law as Tollet observeth for the High-priest Exod. 28. 29. by the Law was High-priest till his dying day But all was corrupted saith Calvin and all bought and sold saith Iosephus this was as Anti-Mosaicall as our reformers Ministry is Antichristian if they had their calling only from Rome 2. The Jewish Church consisted of men separated from heathen who said stand back I am holier then thou Isaiah 65. but they were corrupters of the Lâ—w murtherers of the Prophets and the heire Christ Math. 21. hypocrites will-worshippers blind guides blind people c. Our second Argument If Gods Prophets and people were never commanded to separate from the publike worship but commanded to come up to Ierusalem and worship pray sacrifice with Gods people Deut. 12 11 12 13. Deut. 15. 19 20. Deut. 16. 7 8. v. 16 17. And yet that people was a crooked and perverse generation Deut. 32. 5. not his children provokers of God to jealousie with strange gods sacrificers to Divells ver 16 17. their workes for bitternesse like the clusters and grapes of Sodome ver 32. a people that had neither eyes nor eares nor heart to understand God Deut. 29 3 4. stiffe necked foolish proud
the true God and going a whoring after strange gods should remaine members of Christs true body and a redeemed Church for then they should have had a priviledge to goe to Heaven holding the broad way to Hell for Christs true body shall be glorified Also 5. Elijah should have grievously sinned against God in gathering together all Israel on Mount Carmell amongst the which there were seven thousand that bowed not their knee to Baal and was the Lords elected and sanctified people and also with them the idolatrous people that halted betwixt God and Baal 1 Kin. 18. for so he brought light and darkenesse Christ and Belial to one and the same publick worship for there was praying and preaching and a miraculous sacrifice and ver 39. All the people fell on their faces and worshipped and Elijah knew them to be an idolatrous people and that the faithfull in that worship behoved to have bin defiled and consenters to the unlawfull worship of these halters betwixt God and Baal Master Canne poore soule doubtsome what to say saith These that preach to people have not spirituall communion with all which are present and heare the same for the Divell is often a hearer But this is a poore shift for neither Saviour Word of God covenant promise or seale belongeth to Satan He is a hearer to carry away the seed that falleth by the way side Mat. 13. And so because the word is not Satans in offer and he commeth uncalled he hath no Church communion with the Church but the Word preached to men and especially in an ordinary way is a professed communion with all professours for so the word of God saith Eze. 33. 3. They come unto thee as the people commeth and they sit before thee as my people and they heare thy words And Esa. 58. 2. They aske of me the ordinances of Justice they take delight in approaching to God And Esa. 2. 2. The peoples communion with one another in going to the Lords Mountaine to be taught his Word is set downe as a marke of the called Church of the Gentiles 2. To heare or professe hearing of the word is a worshipping of God therefore joynt-hearers are joynt-worshippers and have communion together 3. To eate at one Table of the Lord is a profession that the eaters are one body 1 Cor. 10. 17. with that same Lord and promises are offered in the word that are sealed in the Sacrament 4. All our Divines proove the Church of the Iewes and the Church under the New Testament to be one Church because that same word of the covenant and that same faith in substance that was preached and sealed to us was preached to them 1 Cor. 10. 1 2 3 4. Heb 11. Heb 13. 8. Heb 3. 7 8 12 13. none deny this but Arminians Socinians Papists and some other perverters of the Scriptures 5. If a joynt hearing of the Word be denied to be a Church-communion in externall worship upon this ground because all that heare doe not believe but many scoffe at the Word many hate it many reject it in their hearts as Separatists reason this is most weake and prooveth that all have not an internall communion by faith and love but it is nothing against a Church-communion in the matter of Separation Also hence it might be concluded none have a Church-communion that eateth at one Table and eateth one bread and drinketh one cup except only believers and so all Hypocrites in the visible Church hearing together praying and praysing and receiving the seales of the covenant together in one politick and visible body with believers should be Separatists from believers having no Church communion with believers the contrary whereof reason and sâ—nse teacheth and Scripture Psalm 42. 4. Psalm 55. 13 14. 1 Cor 10. 17. Math 13. 47. Mat 12. 13. confirmeth Master Canne seeing this saith We affirme not that there can be no religious communion but with members of a visible Church our profession and practise is daily otherwaies yet so that they be such persons howbeit not in Church-state yet to bee judged in the Faith by their gracious and holy walking and are persons in the judgement of Men gracious and holy in their walking but members of a visible Church are visible Saints and so if there be no religious communion to be kept but with persons judged gracious then is there no religious communion to bee kept but with members of the visible Church who are gracious and holy which is a plain contradiction Moreover 6. The zeale of Josiah commended so highly by God should have bin sinfull and wicked zeale in commanding all the people to keepte the most solemne Passeover that ever had beene since the daies of the Judges 2 King 23. 21 22. and yet Iudah was universally corrupted with high places idolatry and false Priest-hood images groves c. It is true Iosiah reformed all these it is as true he sought no more of the people for their externall right worship but profession and could get no more yet he commanded not separation from the Church of Iudah for these corruptions howbeit much heart wickednesse was amongst them as is cleare v. 26. Notwithstanding God turned not from the fiercenesse of his great anger against Judah Moreover 7. Asa his zeale should have bin as sinfull in commanding all Judah and Benjamin and the strangers with them out of Ephraim and Manasseh to conveene in an Assembly which was farre from separation to a solemne service of swearing a Covenant to seâ—k the Lord under the paine of death to both men and woemen and presently after such abominable Idols as â—ad bin in Iudah and Beniamin 2 Chron. 15. 8. were they all turned visible Saints a holy people a chosen generation all taught of God all partakers of the faith and promises so suddenly at one Proclamation Also 8. Ioshua 24. conveened all the Tribes and exhorted them to serve the Lord he charged them all to conveene and they did enter in a covenant with the Lord and he set up a stone under an oake that was by the Sanctuary ver 26. Now this conveening of them all even these who v. 14. and 23. had strange gods amongst them beside the Lord as Ioshuah knew well and gave warning therof must have bin a sinfull fact in Ioshua in commanding a mixture of Gods people and these that had strange gods to assemble in the Sanctuary and enter in covenant with God and heare the servant of God exhort them so heavenly in that Sermon Chap. 23. and Chap. 24. of Ioshuah this was light and darknesse Christ and Belial to come to one Sanctuary to defile the worship of God pollute the people with leaven take the name of God in vaine if Separatists teach true Doctrine And 9. Moses sinned grievously Deut. 29. in assembling all the men of Israel their little ones wives strangers hewers of wood drawers of water to enter in an oath and covenant to serve
worship while we know it and the Church rebuke and censure it but it is too long to lye in the fire and be burnt to ashes till we take notice of the secrets that are known to God that is whether the whole thousand professors that worship with us be beleevers or unbeleevers 3. This answer helpeth not against our argument for Moses Isaiah Ieremiah and the Apostles knew most part that these with whom they did publikely communicate in publike worship were stiffe-necked rebellious idolatrous superstitious and yet they did not separate from the publike worship for their wickednesse 10. Argument That which is so hainous a sinne as to prophane Gods name and ordinances to marry Christ and Belial to mixe God and Idols that are Divells should have been forbidden in the old and new Testament but separation from the true worship of God for the sinnes of the worshippers is never forbidden and communion is ever commanded in the old or new Testament therfore separation cannot be lawfull and communion cannot be such a sin 6. Conclusion A worship may be false in the matter two wayes either when we are to practice it or give our assent to it as to receive the Sacraments after an unlawfull manner to assent to corrupt doctrine that is never lawfull and here we may separate from the worship when we separate not from the Church Or then the worship is false in the matter but our presence doth not make it unlawfull to us as professors may heare a preacher who preacheth the body of divinity soundly howbeit he mixe errors with it because what every one heareth they are to try ere they beleeve as the Spirit of God teacheth 1 Thes. 5. 21. Try all things hold fast what is good 1 Joh. 4. 1. Try the spirits in so doing we separate from the Sermon while we heare the good and refuse the evill because we separate from the error of the worship therefore to heare unsound doctrine is not to partake of false worship because we are to heare the Pharisees but to beware of their leaven and finding it to be soure and unsound doctrine we are to reject it 7. Conclusion A communion in worship true in the matter where the person called for example the Preacher is a minister of Antichrist is unlawfull because we are not to acknowledge any of Babel or Baals Priests professing their calling to be of the Pope the man of sinne 8. Conclusion When we separate from a Church overturning the foundation of religion as from Rome we are to keepe a desire of gaining them howbeit not a brotherly fellowship with them Augustine saith with us we are in mercy to rebuke what we cannot amend and to beare it patiently and else where So Ciprian August Epist. 162. 50. sheweth the Africans were esteemed a Church of Christ howbeit they strictly held baptisme by heretiques to be no baptisme CHAP. XI Quest. 11. Whither or no separation from a true Church because of the sinnes of professors and manifest defence of scandalous persons can be proved from Gods word to be lawfull DIvers places of Scripture are abused by Separatists to maintaine the lawfullnesse of their separation 2 Cor. 6. 17. Come out from amongst them and separate your selves saith the Lord and touch no uncleane thing and I will receive you Ergo saith Ainsworth It is commanded us of God to come out of a corrupt Church and separate from it if we would be in covenant with God Answ. 1. This is no locall separation commanded the Corinthians as Erasmus Sarcerius observeth but a separation in affection and if it were a locall separation it is from the Idol-table of the Gentiles at which some did eate at Corinth to the great offence of the weake 1 Cor. 8. 10. 1 Cor. 10. 17 18 19 20. but from this is badly concluded separation out of the Church of Corinth or any other true Church where the word and sacraments are in purity suppose some errors be practised by some Paul borrowed this place from Isa. 52. 11. as Calvin thinketh where the Lord chargeth the people to come out from Babilon seeing Cyrus had proclaimed liberty to them to come home and applyeth it to the case of Corinth that they should flye all fellowship with Idols and Idols temples and tables 1 Cor. 8. 10. because light and darkenesse Christ and Beliall cannot agree as he citeth from Ezech. 37. Ezech 43. 7. Levit. 26. in the former verse as Marlorat teacheth Now this separation in Corinth was in a Church from the Idolatry in it which separation we allow but not a separation out of a Church else the wordes would beare that Paul will have them to forsake the Church of Corinth for idolatrous tables in it and set up a new Church of their own which the Separatists dare not say and is contrary to other places 1 Cor. 5. 4. 1 Cor. 11. 1 Cor. 14. Where he commandeth and alloweth their meeting and publike Church communion therefore this place proveth not their point 2. This separation is such a separation as is betwixt light and darkenesse Christ and Beliall but the separation is not from externall communion which Separatists urge but from all spirituall and internall communion For Separatists teach that alwayes there are in the Church visible hypocrites and true beleevers for the which cause M. Barrow saith it is compared to a draw-net wherein there are both good and bad now Hypocrites and believers together in one visible Church are light and darknesse together and externall Church communion with the hypocrite which is lawfull cannot be a touching of an uncleane thing and so Church-fellowship with the wicked cannot be Christ and Belial together 3. That Separation here commanded is from the worship of God corrupted in the matter where need force the Corinthians behoved to be joyned to Idols v 16 For what agreement saith he hath the Temple of God with Idols Now he meaneth that the faithfull who were Temples of the holy Spirit should not sit and eat at the Idols Table which is called 1 Cor 10. 20 21. The Divels Table and cup. But what Logicke is this Separate from Idols ergo separate from a Church where the true worship of God is and is professed and taught this is to be yoaked with Christs body Spouse truth but to fly the errours that are in the body which we also teach 2. They object Rev 18. 4. Goe out of her my people that yee be not partakers of her sinnes and that yâ— receive not of her plagues Ergo we must seperate from the Church where there is any thing of Romes worship Answ. It followeth not for it is as if one would say the wrath of God is to come upon the whore of Rome who hath overturned the foundation of true faith Ergo if Corinth will not excommunicate the incestuous man after ye have warned them of their duty come out of
receive the seale of the covenant The proposition he proveth from Genes 17. 10. This is my covenant and every man-childe amongst you shall bee circumcised and Rom. 4. 11. He received the signe of circumcision a seale of the righteousnesse of Faith The assumption he and others proove because murtherers drunkards swearers and whose children we baptise declare themselves not to be Christians nor faithfull nor Saints by their wicked life and so not within the covenant This argument also the Separatists use Answ. The Major is false and not proved from Gen. 17. or Rom. 4 for neither of these places speake of nearest Parents father and mother one at least the Text beareth no such thing but the contrary These are to receive the seale of the covenant whose fore-fathers are in externall profession within the covenant for God commandeth not Abraham only to circumcise his sons but all parents descended of Abraham to circumcise their seed the seed of Abraham carnally descended to all generations and so the nearest parents only are not to be looked unto 2. This argument doth either proceed according to this meaning that these infants only are to receive the seale of the covenant whose parents are within the covenant by an inward ingrafting and union by true faith besides the externall professing therof or then there is no other thing required but only externall profession that the Church without sinne may conferre the seales if the former be said it will follow that God speaketh Gen. 17. only to Abraham and his sons by faith according to the promise and only to believers but God speaketh to all Abrahams sons according to the flesh 2. Because God should speake an untruth that he were a God by reall union of faith to all that are commanded to be circumcised for he commanded thousands to be circumcised to whom he was not a God by reall union of faith therefore these words must import that nothing is more required that the Church without sin may conferre the seale of the covenant but the children to be descended of parents professing the truth and faith although the parents indeed as concerning any reall union of faith be plain strangers to the covenant and members of the Church only as an arme of wood is a member of the body which being true as it must be said the assumption is weake and sick â—or the question is what it is to be externally within the covenant it is not to slee all knowne sinnes to be a chosen people a people taught of God for then God would not have commanded Joshua Chap. 5. to circumcise all Israel because their fathers externally were within the covenant as this argument would say for their fathers were a generation of unbelievers who knew not God who tempted him and grieved his holy Spirit in the wildernesse and professed themselves by their murmuring never to be truly within the covenant Then to professe the doctrine of the covenant is but to be borne Iewes and avow the Lord in externall profession and Deut. 29. sweare a covenant with him when the heart is blinded and hardned v. 4. And so by this it is cleare Joshua had commandement of God to give the seale of the covenant to their children who were as openly wicked against the Lord as murtherers drunkards swearers c. 3. This argument will prove circumcision could lawfully be given to none but the children of parents within the covenant that is professedly knowne to be faithfull holy and seâ—arated from the prophane world in the judgement of câ—arity this hath no warrant of the word For 1. The children of the moâ—t wicked were circumcised Iosh. 5. 2. We desire to know whom God forbad to be circumcised that were carnally descended of Abraham Or shew us exâ—mple or precept therof in the Word 3. What God required in the parents whose Infants the Church might lawfully and without sin circumcise so they were borne Iewes O saith Mr. Best they behooved to be members of the Church whose infants might lawfully be circumcised I answer that is ignotum per ignotius Shew me one person being a borne Iew whose child the Lord forbad to circumcise 2. What is it to be a member of the Iewish Church Is it to bee a visible Saint and taught of God I true that was required indeed to make men acceptable before God but to make one a visible member of the Iewish Church visible nothing was required but to be a borne Iew and professe Gods truth and keepe them from externall ceremoniall pollutions I mean to be a member of the visible Church to keep externall and Church-communion with the rest of Gods people Secondly they object Not onely must they be in profession within the covenant but also members of some visible Church and particular congregation that is that they be within the Church for we have nothing to do to judge them that are without 1 Cor. 5. 12. And this M. Best Proveth by the order required in Gods Church putting a difference betwixt Church-communion and Christian-communion A man may be a just peaceable quiet man and so meet to be a Citizen in a City but he hath not right to the priviledges of the brughe untill he come to them by due order so must a man not onely be a Christian ere his childe be baptized but also a member of a visible Church Answ. 1. This Objection proceedeth from a great mistake as if Church-communion with a particular independent congregation were more and a better and nearer ground of baptizing then Christian-communion which we judge to be false because the Catholick Church is by order of nature and first and more principally the body spouse redeemed flocke of Christ then any particular independent congregation that is but a part or member of the Catholike Church and therfore the covenant promises of grace the power of the keys the seals of the covenant belong first principally to the Catholike Church to these that are in Christian communion with her before they belong to this or that visible part of the Catholick Church and so all ecclesiastick power of the keys must be first more principally in the Catholick Church then in a particular congregatioÌ„ as a reasonable soul by order of nature is in man before it be in Peter Thomas or Iohn 2. I believe these are within that are professours of the true faith suppose they be not members of the Church of Corinth or of any setled Church it is enough if they be within the covenant and these are without only who are Infidels and Pagans not professing the true and sound faith as the Apostle meaneth 1 Cor. 5. 12. Baptisme is a priviledge of the Church not a priviledge of such a particular independent Church and the distinction betwixt Christian-communion and Church-communion in this point is needlesse and fruitlesse for none are to be refused of baptisme whose parents professe the faith and Christian-communion Howbeit
they by Gods providence may be cast into a country where they are not and cannot be without due examination members of a setled Church as one may heare the word and joyn in publick prayer with any true Church he cometh unto and so having Christian-communion with a true Church he hath by that same also Church communion For baptisme is not like Burgessâ— freedome in a city a man may be a free Citizen in one Towne or City and not be a free citizen to have right to the priviledges of all other Cities but he who is Christs free-man in one Church hath Christian freedome and right to communion therby in all Churches and may have Church-communion in all true Churches but hee that is a free Burgesse in one City is not free in all Thirdly they object If Baptisme be given to all promiscuously the Church shall not be the house of God to receive only Gods family but a common Inne to receive all cleane and uncleane So Best citing Cartwright Baptisme is to be administred say the Separatists onely to the seed of the faithfull because such only are accounted to the Lord for a generation which he begetteth and receiveth in his Church to declare his righteousnesse in Christ Psalm 22. 30 31. Rom. 4. 11. and Rom. 11. 16. Math. 10. 13 16. Answ. Cartwright in that place is only against the baptizing of infants of excommunicate parents who are cast out of the Church but as the Church is a house so there are in the house of baptized ones both cleane and uncleane Neither are they all barnes of the house who are within the house the profession of cleannesse and holinesse and of the faith of Christ maketh it a house different from the society of Pagans and Inâ—idels 2. Wheras M. Best urgeth that none should be baptized but members of the visible Church he maketh all baptized members of the Church how then must they be all visible Saints clean persons and holy For baptisme maketh not the thousand part that are baptized to be visible Saints 3. This Generation begotten of the Lord and received into the Church to declare his righteousnesse Psal. 22. is not such only as are to be baptized for that generation v. 30. is a seed that serveth the Lord and v. 31. declareth his righteousnesse All infants whether of faithfull or unfaithfull parents doe alike service to God and alike declare his righteousnesse that is to say infants of what ever kinde can doe no service to God If their meaning bee the infants of faithfull parents circumcised shall serve God and declare his Righteousnesse when they come to age First this Text saith not they are the seed of the faithfull onely that shall serve God For the seed of the faithfull such as Ammon Absolom and Davids seed often refuse to serve God and declare his righteousnesse and the seed and children of wicked Parents as Hezekiah the sonne of wicked Ahaz and Josiah the sonne of wicked Amon doe often serve God and declare his righteousnesse So they cite Scriptures that by no force of reason doe speake for them as Rom. 4. 11. and Rom. 11. 16. say nothing but if the root be holy with the holinesse federall and of the externall profession So are the branches but the place speaketh nothing of true inherent holinesse for then all holy Parents should have holy and visible Saints comming out of their loines which is against Scripture and experience Fourthly they object By this our Divines lose their best Argument against Anabaptists namely that children of Christians by that same warrant are to be baptized that Infants under the Law were circumcised but none was circumcised but a member of the visible Church under the Law Now this ye gain-say who would have all cleane and uncleane baptized and so you leave your patterne Answ. We leave our patterne in no sort For all were circumcised that were borne of circumcised Parents within the Church of the Jewes so all are to be baptized that are borne of Christians and baptized Parents professing the faith But say they Drunkards Murtherers Scoâ—â—ers Swearers and ignorant Atheists both Fathers and Mothers whose children you baptize doe not professe the â—aith for in works they deny and belye their profession Answ. Then you will have the children of none to be baptized but those whose parents are sound and sincere professors in the judgement of charity but so Joshuah failed who circumcised the children of all professing themselves to be Abrahams sonnes carnally howbeit Joshuah knew and was an eye-witnesse that their Fathers did deny and belye their profession And John baptized the â—eed of all Mat. 3. that professed the faith of the Messiah although he knew them to be a generation of vipers 2. They often require that one of the Parents be a beleever or else the childe cannot be cleane nor lawfully baptized and they repose on that place 1 Cor. 7. 14. For the unbeleeving husband is sanctified by the wife and the unbeleeving wife is sanctified by the husband Else that is if both were unbeleevers were your children uncleane that is not within the covenant but now are they holy And they alleadge Beza and Pareus for this Answ. But they mistake the word unbeleeving for by unbeleeving in that place as the Professors of Leyden doe well observe is meant Infidell Gentiles that are without the Church and professe not Christ as is cleare from the Text For where the husband that beleeved was married on a Pagan-wife or a Jew hee thought being converted to the Christian faith he behooved to sunder with his Pagan-wife and the wife converted to the Christian faith married to a heathen and Pagan-husband thought she behoved to divorce and that the marriage could not be sanctified The Apostle answereth this case of conscience Suppose the Father be a Pagan if the Mother be a beleever that is a professour of Christianity for a Beleever is here opposed to a Pagan yet the children are holy by the Mothers or Fathers profession of Christianity Hence the Argument is strong for us Profession of Christianity opposed to Paganisme maketh the children cleane and holy before God by the holinesse of the Covenant therefore Infants borne of parents professing Christian Religion are to be baptized For that this troubled many converted that they were married to heathen and bondmen to them and in such and such callings as they thought inconsistible with Christian Religion is cleare from verse 14 15 16 20 21 22 23 24. And Beza on that place saith it was never heard in the ancient Church that every Infidell child was to be baptized And Pareus saith the children of Christian parents are holy before Baptisme by a Covenant and externall holinesse iure by Gods right being borne of Christian parents And after Baptisme they are holy de facto formally and actually So say Melancthon and Keckerman But I feare that these who will have none baptized
the Ministers of the Church but two or three have power to make a Church Ergo two or three faithfull ones have power to make the Ministers of a Church He proveth the major They who can doe the greater can doe the lesse to make a Church is greater for the Church is the Body Spouse and Wife the Ministers are but an ornament of the body and so the lesse The assumption he proveth two or three faithfull ones have Christ the holy things of David the promises Ergo two or three have power to make a Church Answ. These who can make a Church mysticall have power to make a Church ministeriall or Ministers of a Church that I deny As for the probation this proposition These who can doe the greater can doe the lesse must be right taken It is true in these same kind of works and in the same kind of power Christ can forgive sinnes Ergo he can doe lesse he can say to a sicke man take up thy bed and walke So if by prayer Jacob obtaine a blessing from God which is greater then by prayer he will obtaine deliverance out of the hands of Esau which is lesse but in powers of divers kinds it holdeth not true A beleever by prayer may obtaine grace and perseverance which is greater but it followeth not Ergo hee can open the eyes of the blind and worke miracles which is lesse and therefore howbeit three can make a mysticall Church which is greater by a power of saving grace which is gratia gratum faciens It followeth not that therefore they have a ministeriall and pastorall power of the keyes which is gratia gratis data to preach and make Ministers For then because Mary Magdalen hath power to beleeve that Christ buried shall rise againe from the death which is greater therefore she hath power to preach and baptize which is a lesser power He who hath power to make a ship hath not for that power to make a cup. 11. Smith reasoneth thus These who have the true matter and forme have the property which ariseth from the matter and forme that is Christs ministeriall power to assume all the meanes of their edification to salvation but two or three faithfull ones are the true matter of the Church of the New Testament and therefore have the true forme or covenant of the New Testament and so have a ministeriall power arising from these two Answ. These who have the true matter and forme of a mysticall Church of beleevers these have the union and property of a mysticall Church resulting from matter and forme is most true but they have not for that the true property of a ministeriall Church faith and the covenant written in the heart is not the forme of a ministeriall Church but of a mysticall Church of beleevers Sixe borne Scottish men dwelling in Paris make a body of Scottish men but they are not for that a politicke body of Scottish men living according to the Lawes of Scotland Foure beleevers are a mysticall Church borne over againe by the Spirit of Christ but if they be no more but single beleevers they are not for that a ministeriall Church which is necessarily a politicke body governed by Christs Lawes consisting of shepheard and flocke But this man will have three beleevers because they are beleevers to be Ministers and so taketh away all vocation and ordination of Church-officers by the Churches authority which is flat Anabaptisme CHAP. XVIII Certaine Quaeres anent independencie of Congregations Quaere 1. IF the independencie of Congregations stand whether or no is a Democracie and the actuall government of the Church in the peoples hands I answer affirmatively seeing calling ordination censuring depriving and judiciall excommunication of Church-guides are in their hand I see not what they want and wherein Morellius erred 2. Quaere Seeing hence it followeth that single beleevers are to pray publikely and exhort publikely and authoritatively convince gainsayers at the ordination and deprivation of Pastors if they may not also publikely preach and administer the Sacrament I answer If you give to single beleevers one pastorall Act you may with the like weight of reason give to them all 3. Whether or no is a ministery necessary in a visible Church I answer seeing all these eminent acts of the Pastorall charge by an ordinary power may be performed by single beleevers I cannot see any necessity of a Ministery 4. Whether or no then is every mysticall Church of beleevers because it is such a ministeriall Church having the keyes both in use and power I answer The former doctrine standing it is 5. If every one borne of God be not by that birth borne also a Key-bearer to open and shut Heaven I answer he is 6. If hence a Senate of Elders who laid on hands at ordination of Ministers 1 Tim. 4. 14. 1 Tim. 5. 22. Acts 6. 6. be not then quite out of the Church I answer in Churches independent it is quite gone 7. If then all beleevers as well as the Apostles and Paul Timothy and Titus are not to lay hands on Pastors Answer no doubt they are but precept or practise therfore in the Apostolike Church I see none 8. If the doctrine of refusing Baptisme to Infants whose nearest parents are not one of them at least beleevers doth not inferre that such a Church where they are baptized is a false Church in the matter and so in its constitution false Hence I leave it to be answered by authors of independencie if they should not separate from such a Church 9. Seeing we judge Papists cruell in excluding from glory unbaptized Infants when election and reprobation hath place in Infants not borne Rom. 9. v. 11. If we can judge Infants borne of nearest parents unbeleevers as the children of Pagans Turks without the Covenant and if the sins of one unbeleeving Father where many foregoing generations have been lovers of God and keepers of his Commandements doth exclude the Infants from the Covenant made with these beleeving forefathers Answ. We are to judge them in no Covenant with God by the former doctrine Hence we require that places of Scripture where God is said to shew mercy on a wicked race of people Yea whose nearest parents were most wicked rejectors of Gods Covenant and that for the Covenant made with Abraham as Joshuah 5. 3 4 5 6 7 8. Ezech. 20. v. 8 9 10. v. 18 19 20 21 22. Psal. 106. 6 7 8 9. and v. 10 11 12 13 14 c. v. 44 45 46. may be considered 10. If children laden with iniquity and the seed of evill-doers Isa. 1. 4. doth beget in the visible Church a generation which is no more holy with externall and federall holinesse thâ—n Indians and â—artarians who never heard of Christ And seeing such a generation hath by the former grounds no right to the meanes of salvation we aske with what faith we can keep any Church-communion with such yea how the Gospell can be
preached to them 11. Whether or no we are to keep some Church-communion with an excommunicate person who is to be rebuked as a brother 2 Thes. 3. 15. and so is to be a hearer of the word and for whose good we use the medicine of excommunication that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord 1 Cor. 5. 4. We aske if the doctrine of Independencie standing we are not also totally to separate from an excommunicate person in the very externall Church-communion of hearing the word seeing ten excommunicated persons joyned in Covenant for hearing of the word are no Church no Body no Spouse of Christ. We see not how we are not by the former grounds totally to separate from them 12. If we may rebuke a particular Church and if she remaine obstinate and will not heare why may we not proceed acording to Christs order Mat. 18 tell the Church Answ. By the former grounds we are to stand at single rebuking and proceed no farther 13. Suppose the independent Congregation consist of ten Elders and an hundred beleevers If the ten Elders abide sound in the faith and the hundred beleevers erre in fundamentall points of faith In that case we aske 1. If Christ have appointed no pastorall or ministeriall act of discipline to reclaime these hundred who erre from the faith I answer none at all which may authoritatively reclaime them for they are the supreame independent Church 2. Because it cannot be denyed but Pastors and Doctors of the sâ—id Eldership may preach against their errours and shoot Heaven upon the pertinacious defendors of these pâ—rnicioâ—s errors and that by the power of the keyes Mat. 16. 19. Joâ— 20. 23. yet have they no power of discipline to shut Heaven upon them who thus erre from the faith nor to bind their sins on earth because the Eldership is not the Church neither hath power of jâ—â—isdiction over the hundred erring beleevers How can a power of binding and loosing by way of preaching and that both in Gods Court and the Churches be in these who have no power of discipline to bind and loose 14. Seeing the Sister-Churches of Colosse and Laodicâ—a Col. 4. 16. and of Corinth Macedonia Achaia Galathia 2 Cor. 8. 1 2 3 18 19 23 24. chap. 9. 1 2 3 4 5. are consociated together in a visible body in externall acts of Gods worship as to heare one and the same word of God Col. 4. 16. and to doc Church-businesse and works of mercy toward the poore by their delegates and commissioners We aske if consociated Churches tyed together in a visible Church-communion of acts of divine worship be not with as good reason a visible politick body of Christ as many beleevers consociated in a Church-communion if acts of divine worship doth make a particular Congre-gation 2. If the former Church hath not the power of the keyes upon the grounds of a visible Church-communion among themselves as a Congregation hath the power of the keyes upon these same grounds 3. If these consociated Churches be not a visible Body Spouse and covenanted people with God in Christ as well as a little Congregation of sixe or ten beleevers 4. If such a greater body may not meet in their overseers and exercise discipline and governe the particular Congregations as a Congregation doth meet in their principall members and governe themselves and all the members of the particular Congregation 5. We aske a reason why in a Congregation of three hundred beleevers partaking one Word and Sacrament a hundred of the three separated from the other two hundred cannot meet and exercise the power of the keyes by themselves alone because one worship and one government doth equally concerne them all and by that same reason it should not be affirmed of ten Congregations all partaking one Word and Sacraments upon occasions which neighbourly consociation doth furnish that one cannot meet to exercise discipline in matters which in reason equally concerneth all the ten Congregations without subordination to the joynt authority of all the ten For if a hundred of three hundred cannot exercise discipline there alone without the other two reason would inforce one or two congregations of ten consociated congregations cannot meet without subordination to the whole ten wherof one or two congregations are part if ten be owners of one ship six cannot meet and dispose or sell the ship or repaire her cordadge or any decayed part without the power of the other foure whom it concerneth so if ten congregations be visible owners and copartners of one Gospell one worship one externall profession and one communion with a brother or separation from a scandalous person we aske a reason how one congregation can meet and dispose of that common worship government and haunting familiarly with or separating from a member of the Church without subordination to all the ten congregations whom it doth concerne 15. If the Eldership of one congregation make one visible representative Church ruling and governing the absents we aske why the Eldership of six congregations may not judicially meet and rule six congregations also 16. If the power of the keyes be given to beleevers as beleevers because Christ is their King Priest and Prophet and all things are theirs Paul Apollo Cephas the world 1. It is asked if none have the power of the keyes but beleevers and if all acts pastorall of preaching binding and loosing excommunicating performed by unbeleeving Ministers and Professours be not hence made null as performed à non habâ—ntibus potestatem as if Turkes and Pagans had performed these We thinke they must be null 2. We thinke children baptized by unbeleeving Ministers not baptized 3. An unbeleeving pastor not essentially a pastor 4. If because Christ is given to the elect and all things are theirs and so all ministeriall power of the keyes it is questioned if amongst these all things given to the beleevers we may not include the Magistrates sword the Kings power the masters power over the servant the Captains power over the souldier so that by that same reason there be no Kings no Judges no Masters no Captains save only beleevers we see not how this followes not as well as that the power of the keyes and all things are given to beleevers because Christ is given to them 5. We aske if the power of the keyes in binding and retaining sinnes be not given to unbeleevers or rather for them as Gods intended end to declare the glory of his Justice in the vessels of wrath as Rom. 9. 17. Esa. 8. 14. 2 Cor. 2. 16. 2 Cor. 10. 6 7 8. 17. Quere If the distinction of a true Church 2. A false Church and 3. no Church can stand And if the distinction of true baptisme 2. false baptisme but valid and such as is not to be repeated 3. and no baptisme can stand I answer the doctrine of independency standing we see not how a Church wanting the right matter and consisting of members who
of the keyes without any subjection to any superiour Ecclesiasticall indicatorie p. 187. CHAP. 14. QVEST. 14. Whether or no the power Ecclesiasticall of Synods can be proved from the famous Councell holden at Jerusalem Acts 15. p. 199. CHAP. 15. QVEST. 15. Whether or noe by other valid Arguments from Gods word the lawfulnesse of Synods and Assemblies can be concluded p. 217. CHAP. 16. QVEST. 16. Whether or no it can be demonstrated from Gods Word that all particular Congregations have of and within themselves full power of Church-discipline without any subiection to Presbyteries Synods and higher Church-Assemblies where also the question about publike prophecying of such gifted men as are not in office is discussed against the tenent of Separatists p. 231. CHAP. 17. QVEST. 17. Whether or no some doe warrantably teach that no man hath Pastorall power to preach and administer the Sacraments as a Pastor without the bounds of his owne Congregation And from whence essentially is the calling of a Minister from the Presbytery or from the people p. 260. CHAP. 18. QVEST. 18. Certaine Quares or doubts following upon the Doctrine of independent Congregations p. 272. CHAP. 19. QVEST. 19. Doubts generally seeming to oppose Presbyteriall government discussed and loosed as anent ruling Elders Deacons Widowes the power of Kings in matters Ecclesiastick p. 280. CHAP. 20. QVEST. 20. Whether or no the government of the Church of Scotland can be demonstrate from the cleare testimonies of Gods Word p. 362. CHAPTER I. Whether the power of the Keyes of the Kingdome of CHRIST be conferred upon the multitude of believers as upon the first and proper subject or upon the Church-guides THe Question is not understood of that Royall and Kingly power of excellency and Independencie called all power which is only in Christ Iesus but of the supreme Ministeriall power as all expound it Bucanus Cartwright Amesius Parker that is given to the Church By the Keyes wee understand not the Monarchicall power of Teaching supreme defining Articles of faith and judging the Scriptures as the Jesuites of Rhemes doe dreame Vulcane not Christ made these Keyes We deny not what Bellarmine saith that the keyes signifie a Princedome in Scripture as the key of Davids house promised to Eliakim This key Christ only keepeth Chrysostome and Gregory both say that the care of the whole Christian Church was committed to Peter which proveth not his Princedome but only his ministeriall power given to all the Apostles as well as to him but the Metaphor is borrowed from a Steward or Master-household who hath the keyes of the house given to him to open and shut doores at his pleasure as Calvin Bucan Whitaker explaine it well and it is the power of preaching and governing given to the guides of the Church as servants to open and shut Heavens doore to believers or impenitent persons If wee rightly proceed these distinctions are to bee considered 1. There is a power physicall and a power morall of the Keyes 2. A power popular of the Keyes that belongeth to all and a power authoritative that belongeth to the Guides only 3. The power of the Keyes is in Christ as in the formall subject and fountaine 2. In the Church of believers as in the finall object seeing all this power is for the Church 3. In the Guides as in the exemplar cause representing the Church as we say the image is in the glasse and learning in the booke and this Petrus de Alliaco and Gerson hath the like 4. The Keyes may be thought to be given Mat. 16. to Peter as Prince and King of the Apostles as Papists say or 2. As Peter representeth the Church of believers as some say or 3 As bearing the person of Church guides as we shall demonstrate God willing 5. There is a power ordinary and a power extraordinary 6. The Keyes may be thought to be conferred by Christ immediately either by the immediation of Christs free donation and gift or or by the immediation of simple designation in the former respect the keyes were given by Christ once to the Apostles and still to the Worlds end to the Church guides immediately without the Churches power intervening in the later respect Christ giveth the keyes mediately by the popular consent and election of the Church of believers who doe under Christ designe and choose this person rather than that person Thomas rather than John for the sacred office of weelding the Keyes neither is any man now elected immediately by Christ as the Apostles were 7. Then we may well distinguish in this question these foure 1. Power physicall 2. Power morall 3. Power of order and jurisdiction 4. The use and exercise of that power Wee are to observe that it hath beene a noble and grave Question betwixt the Church of Rome and the Vniversitie of Paris as Spalanto and Robert Parker with others have observed whether Christ hath given the power of the keyes immediately to all the faithfull and by them to the Pastours and Doctors as the Parisians hold so teacheth Almain Ioan. Major Gerson and Occam or if Christ hath given the keyes immediately to the Church guides as we maintaine from Gods Word The mistake hath beene that some Doctors believe that the power of the keyes seeing it is for the good of the whole Church must have some common subject viz. the universall Church in which it must for orders cause first reside before it be given to certaine guides But neither Scripture nature nor reason requireth such a shifting of the keyes from hand to hand seeing Christ can keep them and immediately put them in their trust whom he liketh best Hence for the determination of the Question I. Conclusion The physicall power of the keyes is given to men as they are professors that is men and not Angels are capable of that power for when they are made members of the visible Church they are differenced both from Angels and Infidels as Pagans and Turkes for Angels according to Christs humble love and deepe wisedome are not upon the list to be office bearers in his house but this is not formally a power of the keyes but a popular power about the keyes whereby popular consent may be given to the key-bearers for their election II. Conclusion There is a power popular but not authoritative a power of private Christians not an officiall power of charge given to the visible professors to make choise of their owne office-bearers those against whom we now dispute brethren reverend learned and holy doe confound and take for one and the same the power of electing or choosing officers and the power of Ordination And they make election of Elders which by Gods Word is due to all the faithfull an act of jurisdiction whereas it is a private and popularâ—act flowing from that spirit of grace in believers and from
our brethrens minde cleare Ten or twenty believers in a congregation have from Christ 1. The supreme power of the keyes 2. They are the supremest and highest Church on earth 3. Above Pastours and Elders even convened in a Synod in Christs name 4. Some few believers cloathed with no ecclesiasticall office may ordaine Pastours and Elders deprive and excommunicate them 5. Give ordinances and lawes to the Eldership 6. When Synods or assemblies of office-bearers are met in assemblies and cannot agree in their canons the matter is to be referred by appeale or reference to a company of believers cloathed with no ecclesiasticall function as to the most supreme ecclesiasticall judicatorie on earth These are points unknown to Scripture which our brethren hold Hence out third conclusion The Church of believers in eminence and primacie of Christian dignitie is above the Church ministeriall as ministeriall 1. In dignitie 2. Stabilitie 3. Causalitie Indignitie 1. Because the Church of believers is the redeemed and conquested purchase of our Lord Jesus but all the office-bearers or the ministeriall Churches of Pastours and Elders on earth are not his redeemed ones in so far as they are no more but officers and ministers of the house except they be believers and so they fall in to the redeemed Church which is a better world than to be naked pulpit-men 2. In stabilitie because the advocation of Christ that the gates of hell shall not prevaile against the Church of believers and the promises of the Covenant for perseverance standeth good for them But no such promises of stabilitie are made to naked Church guides but if they guide well they fare the better only common gifts are promised to them which cannot take them to heaven 3. In causalitie the Church of believers are superiour and above the Church of Church-guides because Rulers and Officers are servants and meanes imployed by Christ for the Church of believers as for the end office-bearers are for believers as the meanes for the end but believers are not for office-bearers Medicine is for our health and meate for our life and the end is the cause and so excellenter than the meanes because of these three respects and of the necessity of consent of believers in all acts of Government Christs kingdome being a willing people The Fathers Tertullian Origen Cyprian Chrysostome Augustine Epiphanius Ierome Cyrill Hilarie and our late Divines Junius Chemnitius Martyr Calvin Beza Willet Fulke Bucer and our brethren Baines and Ames doe ascribe a superioritie and so an authoritie to believers as to the fountaine and cause of jurisdiction above Ministers and give the exercise of jurisdiction only to officers not because officers have not the power aswell as the exercise but because the being and operation of officers is all for the Church Gerson also in this subjecteth the Pope and we every Pastour suppone he were a double Lord Prelate to the Church that is to the Councell or Assemblie of the Church and that in a fourefold respect 1. Ratione indeviabilitatis because the ports of hell shall not prevaile against the Church but the Pope or the Pastour is a man may nod and totter 2. Ratione regulabilitatis because the Church in a Synod may regulate and line the Pope or pastor when he crooketh because hee is not essentially a right line 3. Ratione multiplicitatis because the Church containeth in it the Popes or Pastours power but the Pope or Pastour containeth not in his bosome the Churches power 4. Ratione obligabilitatis because the Church may appoint lawes to oblige both Pope and Pastour but the Pope or Pastor cannot oblige the Church Now as the Church of believers is above the Church guides in Christian dignitie and excellency of grace for asmuch as the saving grace of faith is more excellent than the common graces of the power of the keyes yet in an other respect the Church guides are a Church ministeriall in authoritie and jurisdiction above the believers Therefore Junius saith the Pastour and the flock are in divers relations above and inferiour to one another Hence 1. Every one of these two Churches are first and highest each in their owne kind The Church of believers is the highest and most supreme Church I speake of a Christian supremacie and dignitie in the one kinde Also a ministeriall Church is the highest and most supreme Church in its kind to wit in a ministeriall authoritie But that which we prove is that we see not in Gods word a Church of sole believers that is a governing and ministeriall Church having the keyes and power and exercise of jurisdiction over the Eldership and Church-guides whatever our brethren say on the contrary Our first Argument is Because such a Church in name or thing is not in the old and new Testament Therefore this independent Church to us is nothing for the Antecedent we require precept promise or practice for such a Church 2. We have proved that the power of the keyes is no wayes given to sole believers ergo farre lesse can the exercise of that power be in them over their guides except we establish a popular government where all the members of the Church have the power of the keyes and doe actively use them and judge ordaine consttuite despose and excommunicate their rulers 3. Every lawfull power of jurisdiction is regulated by precepts in Gods word But this power in believers over their guides is not so regulated for Gods word giveth precepts to regulate the Kings power to his subjects that he play not the Tyrant the Masters power to his servants that he deale equally with them the parents power over the children that they provoke them not to wrath and so in all lawfull powers that are of God But in no place hath God said Ye that are the flocke and sheepe oversee and governe your sheepheards nor hath he said ye that are sheep children sonnes of the house use your power over your shepheards fathers in God stewards in Christs house with moderation and longanimitie and wisedome nor hath he said yee sons â—lock and people of God feede governe and rule these that are your fathers in God and have the oversight over you in the Lord not as lords over the Lords inheritance but as good examples to the flocke yet this must be in Scripture if this power be of God 4 If the Eldership and Church-guides be rulers and governours taking care of the house of God 1 Tim. 3 4 5. Such as rule well the people 1 Tim. 5. 17. such as must rule with diligence Rom 12. 8. and feed the flock of God not as lords over Gods inheritance taking the oversight not by constraint 1 Pet 5. 2. such as are over the people in the Lord 1 Thes. 5. 12. such as rule over the people and the believers watching for their soules and must give an account
when overseers will not by their authority remove a wolfe and a false teacher extremis morbis extrema remedia Hard diseases and desperate have need of desperate cures But it is an oâ—her case when in a constitute Church there is a government of Christ established for there are two things to bee considered here 1. A popular but withall a private substraction and separation from the Ministery of a knowne Wolfe and seducer and this the Law of nature will warrand than licet tutelâ inculpatâ uti as Parker saith from Saravia So the son may save himselfe by a just defence in â—leeing from his madde father or his distracted friend comming to kill him Now this defence is not an authoritative act nor act judiciall of authoritie but an act naturall that is common to any private person yea to all without the true Church as well as within to take that care in extreme necessity for the safety of their soules that they would doe for the safetie of their bodies 2. The question is whether the community of beleevers may doe this that is whether they by the power of the keyes given them by Jesus Christ may deprive and excommunicate the Pastor because the Law of Nature in some cases may warrant a private separation from a corrupt ministery 3. The case is not a like here as in a free Common-wealth for a free Common-Wealth containeth Ordines regni the estates that have nomotheticke power and they not only by the Law of Nature may use justa tutela a necessary defence of their life 's from a Tyrants fury but also by the Law of Nations may authoritatively represse and limite him as is proved by Iunius Brutus Bucherius Althusius Hâ—nonius Therefore Henning Amisaeus do well distinguish betweene plebem 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 populum for indeed the multitude excluding the States or the base of the people can hardly have an other Law against a Tyrant then the Law of Nature but the Common-wealth including the estates of a free kingdome hath an authoritative So Isiodor Origen Aristotle Plato Tit. Livius Plutarch and that of the Councell of Basil Plus valet regnum quam rex the Kingdome is more worth than the King as Silvius citeth is approved by all but the multitude of sole beleevers have not the keyes at all and therefore they can doe no other thing but use a necessary defence of their soules And what Keckerman and Hottoman saith is not against us Also Gerson in name of the Parisians going to the Councell of Pisan saith a Councell may be gathered without the Pope without the guides of the Church two wayes Charitative when Charity reigneth 2. Authoritative when the case of the Churches ruine requireth that a Councell should bee and if the Pope and Pastors refuse to convene and the necessary defence of soules is the like here 7. No power is given to Pastors absolutely but to edification and so upon condition and therefore if the condition cease the power ceaseth But say yee It ceaseth What then it followeth not they should be deprived by the Church but by the Synod yea but you will say it followeth for the power is not given for the edification of the Synod and not for their destruction but for the edification of the Church and this destroyeth the Church Also Synods cannot alwayes bee had Answ. If the power bee abused wholly it ceaseth and the Pastor before God in foro interno hath losed his power If it bee abused in one or two acts it is not losed else a King doing against judgment and justice and a Pastor doing against pietie should leave off to be a King and Pastor which is hard to affirm 2. The power authoritative is given by the Presbytery for the edification of the Church principally and for the edifying of Synods and Elderships Secondarily but hence it followeth not that this power should bee taken away by the Church of sole beleevers Object Synods saith hee cannot bee had ordinarily Answ. So neither publike preaching at some times It followeth not therefore that publike preaching is not a meane of edifying because through accident and iniquitie of time the publike preaching cannot be had 8 Parker reasoneth from the stability of the Church Where there is more stabilitie there is more authority as our Divines reason proving the Pope to be inferiour to the Councell 1. A Church cannot be gathered in the name of Christ but there is the power of Christ 1 Cor. 5. 4. Matth. 18. But a Church may be and was constitute at first saith Saravia without Elâ—ers and Pastors 2. The Church hath ecclesiasticke auâ—hority when the overseers are absent as in the reformed Churches or when by heresie they lose their authority the authority of the overseers dependeth on the Church but the authority of the Church dependeth not on the overseers 3. When the Pastor is dead the Church keepeth still her authoritie when the Pope is saith Bellarmine the keyes remaine in the Christs hands and he giveth them to the next Pope Behold fleeing keyes saith Morton Ans. A ministeriall Church is never gathered in Christs name while there be a ministerie unlesse you would say Peter is a man before he be a reasonable creature which is a contradiction some few beleevers may meete together but they cannot preach baptize censure while Christs power of the keyes bee given them except by an extraordinary power from I. C. 2. What if a Church of beleevers bee by order of nature before there be overseers Yet have they not the keyes while CHRIST call some of their number out to give them the Keyes for there was no power of the Keyes of the New Testament while Christ gave it to Iohn Baptist and called the twelve Disciples else their calling to bee Apostles should not bee a conferring on them the Keyes which is false for when Matth. 10. 1 5. they are sent out with power to preach he gave them the Keyes â—nd yet they were a Church of Disciples before and first called to faith and then to the Keyes and to the Apostleship 2. The Church of beleevers have no authority Ecclesiasticall nor power of the Keyes if all the Pastors on earth were removed from the Church by Death and in that case the Keyes should indeed bee only in Christs-hand and the case being extraordinary Christ behoved extraordinarily to supply the want of ordination which Timothy Titus and other Elders doth ordinarily give for the Church of beleevers could not give that which they have not and yet Bellarmines Keyes are â—leeing Keyes for he hath no cause to say when the Pope dieth The Keyes flee to Heaven for there are living many thousand Pastors and Elders who have the Keyes suppone the Pope died and never lived again 10. Parker reasoneth thus If Peter stand up Acts 2. in signe of reverence as standing is in Scripture
Numbers 16. 9. 1. â—hro 19. 11. Ezec. 44. 11. John 3. 29. before the multitude of believers then he acknowledged their authority above his But Peter did the former Acts 2. Answ. This argument concludeth not the power of the Keyes to bee in the multitude There is Authority of grace in a multitude professing the Truth but not power of the Keyes and certainely we denie not simply but beleevers are farre above all overseers But the question now is of superioritie and honour of jurisdiction 11. If nothing must be done in a Church without the common consent of believers then beleevers have jurisdiction above their over-seers but the former is true Act 15. Act. 1. I may adde what these of the Separation say The faithfull had knowledge and consent in elections Act. 1. 15 23 26. Act. 6. 2 3 5. and 14 23. and 15. 23 25. For hearing and deciding Ecclesiasticall controversies Act. 11. 2 18. and 15. 2 22. and 21. 18. 22. for writing generall letters Act. 15. 25. for sending some to build other Churches Act. 11. 22. for sending the benevolence of Brethren to other Churches 1 Cor. 16. 3. and 2 Cor. 8. 19. for excommunication 1 Cor. 5. Mat. 18. Ans. If this be a good Argument All publike Church businesse is to be done by knowledge and consent of beleevers and cannot be done by their over-seers done Therfore the faithfull have jurisdiction over the over-seers Answ. We will borrow the Argument and give it back againe for us no publike businesse is to be done without the knowledge and consent of Eldership Ergo The Eldership hath the jurisdiction 2. That all be done by their consent I grant but with these distinctions 1. Their quiet and tacite consent for there is not required an expresse consent by word of mouth of all the multitude as of women speaking in the Church for they should give reasons of their consent if an expresse consent be required 2 Consent of manyest not all els the Churches deed should bind none absent 3. A consent popular not judiciall els they are all made Judges 4. Their privity is thought a consent how could six thousand that our Bretheren make an independent Church in the Apostles time all speake 2. All judge in Excommunication 3 All reason dispute propone answer as Judges must doe heere grave Beza our Divines Calvine Bucer Bullinger Melancton Beza Bucan Pareus Rivetus Sibrandus Junius Treleatius the fathers Cyprian Jerome Augustine Nazianzen Chrysostome Ambrose Theodoret Theophylact require all to be done consentiente plebe But my Bretheren what if there be a discord and beleevers deny consent In a matter of Excommunication Zepperus Zanchius Beza Bucanus Pareus thinke the Eldership should not excommunicate 2. But what if the contagion of the not excommunicated leaven the whole lump I see not how believers have a negative consent 3. If the matter be a point of necessary truth to be determined and the Pastours and Elders in the Lord and from his Word command it as a necessary truth to be obeyed but the Beleevers consent not I aske whither or not that which Watchmen command from Gods Word and authoritatively and judicially in his name ought not to stand as an obliging Mandat and Canon even when the Beleevers gain-say Our Bretheren say the Mandat tyeth and obligeth materially and in it selfe but not ecclesiastically because beleevers doe not consent it hath not the force of a Canon seeing they have the keyes Ans. But this Canon Arrianisme is Heresie we suppose is all one both materially and Ecclesiastically according to that Hee that heareth you heareth me and so it tyeth being determined by Pastours with others Synodically conveened Shall it oblige the one way Ecclesiastically being preached and not the other way being Synodically determined because the people consenteth not Certainly if power of preaching be a power of the keyes all that are silent to that which is preached give a consent to what is preached for silence at the hearing of a vow when it is lawfull to speake is a consent Numb 30. ver 14. Now it is lawfull to any member of the Congregation to speake against what is unfound in Doctrine publickly delivered so it be spoken timously Hence it must follow that what tyeth and obligeth as an act of the keyes in preaching tyeth also when determined by the Eldership suppose all the Congregation doe not judge and determine judicially I may say that by our Bretherens grounds preaching is a publick Ecclesiastick act of the keyes and of the whole Church for the Church preacheth by her Pastour as by her mouth and servant receiving authority and the keyes to preach from the Church Therfore all must give their consent to what is preached els it is not the Word of God or to be judged and reputed to tye us to faith and obedience no lesse then publick acts of the Church and this were strange to say the word preaching is not the word obliging ecclesiastically except all believers women and children confirme it by their consent and suffrages judicial 12. Parker reasoneth thus If Peter render an account to the particular Church of believers at Jerusalem of his eating with the uncircumcised and of what may be judged scandalous then the judiciall power of censuring Church-guides is in the hands of the people But this Peter the Apostle did Act. 11. not as Gratian saith ut doctor mansuetudinis but as â—erus saith ex officio And as Gerson saith non ex humili condescensione sed ex debito obligatione not of Humility but of duty So reasoneth Best also So Almain saith Pope Nicolas said to Lotharins except he would abstaine from the coâ—pany of his excommunicated whore he would complaine to the Church he said not he would take order with him himselfe as being above a Councell When Symmachus the Pope contended with some he gathered a Councell and they iudged the matter If two Popes contend for a Popedome saith Almaine a generall Councell is to determine Answ. The Major is not true Peter is to purge himselfe before any one brother offended of a scandall and farre more before the Church Yea the necessity of his salvation and so the law of nature forbidding to offend the weake willeth him to purge himselfe if he were a Pope saith Occam now one offended brother is not a church and so the Superiority of jurisdiction in believers is not hence concluded 2. He purged himselfe before the Apostles and Bretheren ver 1 and not before the Brethren onely 3. If he had done wrong he was obliged to confesse his scandall before one offended believer and also before all the Church but that prooveth not jurisdiction in the believers 13. Paul rebuketh Peter before the Church of Antioch ergo That Church of Antioch might iudge Peter Ans. The same answer sufficeth 2. It is not proved that in the presence of Believers only Paul did
rebuke him from this Text. 14. Christ immediately and without the mediation of the Church saith Parker communicateth himselfe to beleevers ergo he communicateth his power also immediately to his Church Ans. It followeth not because he communicateth not his power of the keyes to the Church of believers either mediately or immediately because he giveth it not to them at all CHAP. V. Q. Whether or no some doe warrantably teach that the power of the Keyes is essentially and originally in the Church of Beleevers and in the Church-guides only at the second hand and in the by quoad exerâ—itium so as the Church of Believers should be the mistresse delegating the keyes by an imbred and kindly authority and the Church-guides as her proper servants and delegats do borrow the use and exercise of the keyes from the foresaid Church of Believers THe tenent of these with whom we now dispute is that all the power of the keyes is given by Christ to the multitude of Believers as to the first fountaine and that this power is derived and gested by the mulmultitude of believers to such and such persons to be used and exercised by them as the servants both of Christ and the Church For the clearing of the question and trying if this distinction be law-biding These distinctions are to be observed 1. The power of the keyes may be thought to come to the Ministers of the Church three waies as shall be cleared 1. By mediate derivation the Church receiving this power from Christ and deriving it over to the friends of the Bridegroome 2. By immediate donation God immediately giveth the honour of the keyes to these whom he maketh his Courtyers in this kinde 3. By application the Church only naming the men to the office 2. The power of the keyes and all sacred offices in Gods House are from the immediate wisdome of Christ The designation of such men to such offices is by the ministery of the Church 3. The power of the keyes is one thing the lawfull exercise of the keyes is another thing 4. The Ministers may be thought the servants either of the Church or servants of Christ for the Church 5. Designation of men by the Church to sacred offices may be thought either in the Churches free-will or tyed to the lawes designed by Christ. 6. The Church of believers may be thought either the virtuall or the formall subiect of the keyes 7. The power of the keyes may be thought to be given to the community or multitude of Believers or professours of faith in Christ in the generall not designing one man rather then another but leaving that to the disposition of meanes and disposition of second causes who shalâ— be the man as to be a Musitian to be an Astronomer is given to mankinde as some way proper to man as Porphyre saith howbeit all and every one of mankinde be not alwayes Musitians and Astronomers It is thought by our Brethren that the Church of believers is the first seat the prime subject and head fountaine under Jesus Christ to whom the keyes are given and that howbeit all offices and officers be only of Christs institution yet the Church of believers doe as the Spouse and Mistresse and bride of Christ communicate the lawfull exercise of some acts of the keyes as to preach administer the Sacraments oversee the conversation of the flock care for the poore to some certain men as her deputies and servants with borrowed authority from her selfe as the Well-head and prime fountain under Christ of all the authority and use of the keyes that is in the officers of the House as Pastors Doctors and Elders the Church still keeping in her own hands authority and power of the keyes in most materiall acts of the power of the keyes as by these keyes to ordain and elect all the officers and in case of aberration or failing to censure depose excommunicate them and all members of the visible Church and that independently and without any subordination to Presbyteries Classes and Synods even as the kingly power of actuall government is in the Kings hand and he appointeth deputies and servants under himself and in his name and authority to do and execute his will according to the Laws of the Kingdom so doth the Church of believers under Christ by an imbred authority and power received from Christ send out Pastors Doctors and Elders in her name and authority to exercise certain ministeriall acts yet so as the Church of believers in all the acts performed by the officers remaineth the principall and prime agent cause and actor under Christ and the officers only her servants deputies and instruments performing all by authority borrowed from her the bride Queen and Spouse of Christ This they believe to be contained in the Scriptures and taught by Fathers and Doctors of the Church I deny not but by the faculty of Paris this question was agitated in the Councell of Basil and Constance to bring the Pope as a sonne and servant under the power of a Generall Councell The Sorbonists and Doctors of Paris that are not near the smoake of the Popes glory for this contend with the Jesuites men that are sworne bellies to the world and the Pope The Parisians cite the Councell of Carthage where Augustine was present And Augustine and Tertullian and Chrysostome seeme to favour this So Maldonate Ferus Jansenius Sutluvius Whittaker Morton Spalato Gerson Almain Petr. de Alliac Also Edmundus Richerius and Sim. Vegorius set out a booke of Church policy depressing the Pope and extolling the Church power as full and compleat without a ministeriall head as their owne Parisian Doctors acknowledging the command of having a Pope to be affirmative and not to bind alwayes and that the Churches power remaineth full when the Pope is dead as the Parisians say p. 8. The booke came out without the name of an Authour and was condemned by Cardinall Peronius Archbishop of Senona and Primate of France and Germany and is refuted by Andreas Duvallius a Sorbonist What our Divines say in this I have exponed to be far otherwise then is the mind of Parker M. Jacob M. Best and the Authours of presbyteriall government examined Ann. 1641. Hence our first conclusion is All offices and office-bearers in Gods house have their warrant immediately from Christ Jesus as we all agree against the bastard prelacy 1. because of the perfection and plenitude of Scripture 2 because of our Law-giver Christs wisedome and his seven Spirits that are before the Throne seeing he seeth better then men 3. because of the Scriptures Eph. 4. 11. Rom. 12. 7 8 9. w 1 Cor. 12. 26 27 28 29. 1 Tim. 3. Act. 20. â—8 And therefore Presbyters and Deacons have their offices immediately from Christ and not from the Prelates 11. Conclusion The first subject of the keyes is either made quate or narrower as one Pastor and some ruling Elders of
hath to Christ is not the ground why the keyes are given to that people as to the originall subject because they may have the Word Sacraments and keyes a long time and yet want faith in Christ and so all title and claime to Christ All which time they have the keyes discipline and Sacraments and I beleeve their acts of discipline censures and Sacraments are valide therefore the Church redeemed and builded on the rocke Christ is not the kindly subject of the keyes 2. The keyes are given to professors cloathed with a ministeriall calling whither they be beleevers or unbeleevers howbeit God giveth them for the salvation and edification of beleevers 3. There is nothing required to make a independant Congregation but an profession of the truth covenant-wayes and outward worshipping of God suppose the members be unbeleevers 4. Conclusion There is a visible governing Church in the new Testament whose members in compleat number of beleevers doth not meet in one place ordinarily for the worship of God neither can they continually so meet 1. The Church of Jerusalem was one Church under one government and called one Church in the singular number which grew from one hundred and twenty Acts 1. to three thousand one hundred and twenty Acts 4. 41. and then added to these Acts 4. 4. five thousand men which is eight thousand one hundred and twenty And Acts 9. 35. all that dwelt at Lydda and Saron turned to the Lord v. 42. many in Joppa beleeved in the Lord Acts 20. 21. many thousands of the Jewes beleeved Acts 5. 14. multitudes of beleevers moe were added to the Lord both of men and women Acts 6. 1. their number were multiplyed Now it was not possible they could all meet in one house especially seeing that prophecye was to take its first accomplishment at Jerusalem where all flesh was to see the salvation of God And that of Joel 2. I will poure my spirit on all flesh It s true Bayne saith this Church was numerous by accident at extraordinary confluences of strangers Yet the multitudes of thousands which I have observed from the story of the Acts granting the confluence Acts 2. of nations to be extraordinary did meet daily Acts 2. 46. from house to house Now so many thousands could not meet daily that is ordinarily 2. From house to house in private houses and so it is not possible all that people did make but one Congregation independent where 1 all had voices in discipline 2. all did breake bread that is receive the Sacrament in a private house so that their meeting together must be taken distributively in diverse Congregations not collectively for that were against edification 2. against the nature of congregationall worship 2. There was a visible Church in Samaria under one government that could not convene in all the members in one place The numerous people in Samaria converted to the faith is knowne to all it being the head City of the ten Tribes So huge that all Israel was named Samaria They received the faith Acts 8. and as ver 10. They all gave heed to Simon Magus from the least to the greatest So ver 6. with one accord they gave heed unto these things which Philip spake hearing and seeing the miracles that he wrought ver 12. they beleeved and were baptized both men and women And that on Philip might have preached to one single Congregation who doubteth but the number of beleevers were so many that ver 14. the Apostles behooved to send Peter and John to help to hold up the harvest 3. That the Church of Ephesus could not be one single Congregation that met together is cleare 1. There was there a Presbytery of Pastors or Bishops Acts 20. 28. and these preaching or feeding Pastors who were to watch and take heed to false teachers rising up amongst themselves 1. teaching perverse things 2. making Disciples to themselves the teacher and scholler are relata every one of them has respect to other 2. That they were teaching Elders that did follow the Apostles doctrine is cleare Rev. 2. 2. Thou hast tryed them that say they are Apostles and are not and hast found them to be lyars and Christ termeth them one Church for their common government The answer of Tylen saith Christ saith not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to the Churches and therefore all the Congregation were one Presbyteriall Church at Ephesus But it is without example in the word that one single Congregation with one Pastor onely and some ruling Elders doth try Ministers gifts and finding them false teachers authoritatively to cast them out so that the harvest has been so great that false teachers calling themselves Apostles resorted to Ephesus to help the good number of Pastors who were there already Acts 20. 28. By this it is cleare that Ephesus had many Congregations in it and many preachers also who in a common society fed the flocke and exercised discipline Rev. 2. 2. neither can we say there was but one Angell there except we make that one a Prelate contrary to the word of God Acts 20. 28. 2. The multitude of converts there required a Presbytery or a multitude of consociated Pastors Acts 19. 20. Paul continued there by the space of two yeares so that all they who dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord 1 Cor. 16. 8. there was a great doore and effectuall open to him at Ephesus 2. They were once madly devoted to their great Idoll Diana and had a Temple for her that all Asia wondred at therefore Ephesus was no small Towne This Temple Herostratus saith was built by all Asia and was two hundred and twenty yeares in building and had in it as he saith one hundred and twenty seven pillars every one of them made by severall Kings and every one of them sixty foot high Now ver 19. Pauls miracles were knowne to all the Jewes and Greeks at Ephesus and feare fell on them all and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified and many of them that beleeved came and confessed and shewed their deeds v. 19. And many that used curious arts brought their books and burnt them before all men And what wonder it is said ver 20. so mightily grew the word of God Paul fought with beasts at Ephesus millions here were mad upon the Idoll Diana If the beleevers had not been the manyest they durst not professe the burning of their bookes nor durst Paul stay there two yeers Hence if there was a setled Church here above two yeares a constituted Presbytery in this City Acts 20. 17 28. that had power of jurisdiction to ordaine teaching Elders and reject hirelings Rev. 2. 2. and so many thousands of Greekes and Jewes such an effectuall doore opened to the Gospell against so many thousands opposing there was not here one onely single independent Church that met in one house only but a Presbyteriall Church Now they could not all preach at one time to them
being a number of preachers Acts 20. 36. Paul prayed with them all and yet they were set over that flocke by the Holy-Ghost Acts 20. 28. therefore they had each their owne Church and one canot officiate or exercise Pastorall acts amongst the flock of another Pastor as our brethren would prove from this same place Acts 20. 4. What shall we say the Church of Rome was onely an independent single Congregation that met in one place or house seeing the faith and obedience of the Saints there was heard through all the world Rom. 1. 8. Rom. 16. 19. so that Tertullian in his time saith halfe of the City was Christians And Cornelius saith beside himselfe there was forty and five Presbyters Consider how many prime persons families Paul saluteth Rom. 16. Paul stileth them one Church and one body that had jurisdiction common to all Rom. 1â— 3 4 5 6 5. So Galatia is written too as to one Church and had one government and discipline Gal. 5. 9. A little leaven of false doctrine leaveneth the whole lump as 1 Cor. 5. v. 6 7. and Gal. 5. ver 10. He that troubleth you shall beare his judgement whosoever he be ver 12. I would they were even cut off by the rod of discipline as Pareus and Perkins expound it that trouble you So Gal. 6. 1. the spirituall are to restore in meeknesse the weake falling in sinne and yet they were many Congregations in Galatia Gal. 1. 2 1 Cor. 16. 1. 6. We finde a Presbyterie at Antioch of Prophets and teachers Acts 13. 1. who laid hands on Paul and Barnabas 2 3. and ordained them to goe and preach And a Presbytery at Lystra Acts 16. 1 2 3. where Timothy was recommended to Paul and received in his company and laid hands on by him Now that this imposition of hands was not done by the collective body of the Church but by the Elders and Presbytery is cleare from 1 Tim. 4. 14. as Iunius collecteth for that the people laid on hands there is no ground 7. And Acts 21. 18. There is a Presbytery at Ierusalem of Iames and the Elders exercising jurisdiction for before them Paul giveth account of his ministery amongst the Gentiles v 19 20. and they enjoyn Paul for the believing Jewes sake to purifie himselfe v. 23 24. which Paul obeyed v 26 27. and this Presbytery taketh on them the Canons of the Councell of Jerusalem made Acts 15. at least as a part of that famous Councell 8 To ordaine Elders in every city is all one as to ordain Elders in every Church Act 14. 23. so doth Luke expone it as Parker confesseth Act 20. 17. And from Miletus hee sent to Ephesus and called the Elders of the Church he saith not of the Churches Act 16. 4. And when they went thorow the cities they delivered them the decrees c. now what is meaned by cities is exponed in the next ver 5. So were the Churches established So Tit 1. 5. That Thou shouldest appoint Elders in every city as I appointed thee Then that there bee an Eldership and Presbytery of Pastors in every city is an Apostolike Institution and so the commandement of our Lord Iesus for that Paul understandeth there especially preaching Elders in every city is cleare by the words following that sheweth what sort of men preaching Elders should be ver 9. able by sound Doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gain-sayers c. Hence if an Eldership in a city as Ephesus and Ierusalem and Antioch where all cannot meet for multitude bee an Eldership in one Church as our book of Discipline hath it then there was Presbyteries in great cities where there were many Congregations but the former is proved already ergo the Presbytery of many Congregations is the Apostles Presbytery 9. If Gods word warrant a number of officers in Gods house who ordaineth Pastors by laying on of hands and who tryeth these who say they are Apostles and Pastors and are lyars and who hath jurisdiction to punish false teachers as Balaam and Iezabel and who appointeth Elders in cities and Churches then is there a Presbytery and society of Pastors and Elders in moe consociated and neighbour congregations appointed for this effect But there is such a number of officers in Gods House of which number are no single believers not cloathed with any Ministeriall calling Therfore there must be a Presbytery diffâ—rent from private Professours that overseeth many Congregations I prove the proposition First that there is such a number and that they are different from ordinary professors 1 Tim 4. 14. Neglect not the gist that is in thee which was given by the laying on of the hands of the Elders Re 2. 2. Re. 2. 14 20. Tit 1. 5. 1 Tim 5 22. now that ordinary professours who are not Elders doe lay hands on Pastors ordain or appoint Elders and judicially try and choose or refuse false Teachers and censure or deprive them wanteth precept promise or practice in the Word of God except we say the Epistles to Timothy and Titus are not written to Church-men but to all professours that they should lay hands suddenly on no man that they should appoint Elders in every city Now also that this united Presbytery is a Presbytery of one single Congregation is 1 Against that which we have prooved of the great Church of Ephesus Act 20. Act 19. Rev 2. as also against the necessity of Pastors labours who are not to stay in numbers together upon one single Congregation where two or moe cannot be had To the place 1 Tim 4. 14. some answer that that laying on of the hands of the Presbytery was extraordinary and ceased with the Apostles Others say he speaketh of the office not of the persons Answ The latter is a devise of Prelates refuted by our Divines an office neither hath hands nor feet but persons only have hands 2. Castalio calleth this with good warrant The Senate of Elders Chrysost and Hugo Cardinalis a Colledge of Presbyters Iunius saith it is all one with the Church Mat 18. But thirdly we deny not but there was an extraordinary laying on of hands by the Apostles by which the Holy Ghost was given Act 8. 18. But this is the laying on of the hands of the Apostles as Presbyters which is ordinary and is limited and ruled by the Word and must not be done suddenly 1 Tim. 5. 22. now no such rule is laid upon the miraculous laying on of hands there is no feare that the Apostles in working of miracles should partake of other mens sinnes and that the ordinary laying on of hands such as this was did not give the Holy Ghost is cleare Act 14. 3. The Elders layeth hands on Paul and Barnabas who before had received the Holy Ghost Act 9. 17. 3. This answer is against the nature of this Epistle where Paul setteth down a plat-forme of Church government to be keeped unviolably to the second comming
of Christ as is cleare 1 Tim. 6. 14. and so he saith himself 1 Tim. 3. 15. These things I write that thou mayest know how to behave thy selfe in the Church Gerson Bucer These were written for ages to come so the Refutator of Tilen and our own Rollock and so the Fathers Oecumenus say he setteth downe the summe of Ecclesiasticke Discipline So Chrysostome Augustine Enthim Cyrillus 10. Suppose we should grant a Presbyteriall Church be not expresly in the Word as we thinke it is Mat. 18. as we shall prove yet the thing it self cannot be denied hence take away a Presbytery whose it is to ordaine and censure Pastours of necessity the government and power of the keyes must be in the hands of the people against the arguments in the former Chapter that cannot be answered for the multitude of believers cannot ordaine a Pastor suppose we grant they are to chuse and elect their owne Pastor yet it is not warranted by the Word that ruling Elders with one pastor should ordain pastors seeing ordinations is given still to preaching Elders Act 14. 3. Tit 1. 5. 1 Tim 5. 22. 2 Tim. 2. 2. Rev 2. 2. Act 20. 29 30. and to moe pastours then to one only But by the way let us heare what is said against this 1. The word Church signifieth alwaies a gathered together Church or such as may gather together Act 11. 26. a whole yeare they assembled with the Church Act 20. 7. The Disciples came together to breake bread so Act 1. 10. Act 2. 44 46. Act 5. 12. Act 15. 25. An. Our brother M. Gillespi saith many Interpreters expound 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 they were together that is of one accord in love and amity and also Churches not being builded and they meeting in private houses as in Maries house Act 12. schoole of Tyrrannus Act 19. 9. in an upper chamber Act 20. 8. Pauls lodging at Rome Act 28. 13. What private houses could ordinarily contain so many thousands 2. The Scripture speaketh so to give us an example of the publick meeting for publick worship where it is not needefull that all met in one place collectively it is enough they meet all distributively 3. Neither doth the word Church alwayes signifie a meeting of one single Congregation as Act 12. Prayers was made by the Church that is by all professours Herod vexed the Church Act 8. Saul made havocke of the Church I persecuted the Church There is no necessity to expound these of people meeting ordinarily to worship God for Herod and Saul persecuted all whither Apostles or professours in houses not respecting their meeting in one place also it shall follow that prayers were not made in private but only in the Church that is in the conveened Congregation for Peter which is absurd And that they were a visible Church is cleare els Herod and Saul could not persecute them Parker answereth The whole Nation of the Iewes did meet at one meeting and are called by Luke the Church and there came innumerable multitudes to heare Christ. Answ. That is for us the Church of the Iews contained six hundreth thousand fighting men beside women children and aged persons and the Levites that attended the Tabernacle and Arke it were a wonder to make out of this an independent Congregation all judging and governing both themselves and their governours Therfore there may be a visible Church under one government that cannot ordinarily meet to heare the Word of God and howbeit there met innumerable multitudes Luke 12 to heare Christ and that with great confusion that is forbidden in Church meetings 1 Cor 14. So that they trod on one another that multitude could not be a Church 1. Ordinarily meeting 2. To heare one pastor 3. To judge all the people and over-see their manners 4. And to communicate ordinarily at one Table in the Lords Supper this is against the nature and true use of a Congregation met in one place for the publick worship Thirdly they reason the Church visible in the New Testament are called the Churches in the plurall number the Churches of Judea Galatia Asia Macedonia Hence it followeth there is no visible Church larger then a Church meeting in one house Answ We reade of the Church of Hierusalem Act 15. where certainly there were moe particular Churches 2 It followeth not for moe Churches were visible and audible Act 15. at that famous councell and are called so united the whole Church and yet separated they were sundry churches they are so named in opposition only to the Nationall and typicall Church of Iudea not in opposition to provinciall and Nationall Churches and Synods 5 Conclusion A Church may be called representative three waies 1 Properly as if the Rulers stood in the persons of believers judging for them as if the believers were there themselves as a deputy representeth the King So Israel did sweare a covenant Deut 9. 14 15. for their posterity not borne this way the Eldership doe not judge for the Congregations as if the Congregations did judge by them as by their instruments as Robinson saith because the multitude of believers should not judge at all therfore Elders doe not in governing represent their persons So Bannes said the Pope this way hath no Legate for he cannot give an Apostolike spirit to his Embassadour for then he miâ—ht leave saith he an apostolike spirit in legacy to some successour We acknowledge no representative church in this sence as the authour of presbyteriall government examined unjustly imputeth to us 2 A representative Church may be thought a number sent by a community and elected to give laws absolutely tying as if believers should say We resigne our faith and conscience to you to held good whatever you determine without repeale or tryall that is blinde faith that we disclaime all our Rulers acts in our Assemblies do bind 1 conditionally if they be lawfull and convenient 2 matters to be enacted are first to be referred to the congregations and Elderships of particular congregations before they be enacted 3 A representative Church is a number having election and designation from the Church of believers but ordination from the Eldership to voice determine and command as those who are over them in the Lord to make constitutions and decrees according to Gods word and this way we hold a representative Church Mat 18. and 1 Cor 5. which made acts according to Gods word tying the whole congregation even the absents for the presents representeth the absent If the incestuous person had bin judicially excommunicated the Apostle Paul and all the absents that neither had bin actours nor witnesses had bin tied to abstain from bortherly conversing with him and this way the decrees of the Councell of Jerusalem tyed the absent Churches Act 16. 4. and Chrâ—sts power of the keyes Iohn 20. were given to Thomas howbeit absent
who confesseth our Thesis that in these words tell the Church Christ doth understand the Presbytery or Eldership Hence the word Church in the New Testament doth not alwayes signifie the Church of Believers Disciples Brethren who pray in Christs name and are heard in Heaven and are builded on the Rocke and are the body and spouse of Christ for a number may be and often is an Eldership judicially excommunicating and a Presbytery yea and also including some externally professing Christ who are not a company of redeemed ones built by saving faith upon the Rocke Jesus Christ. Also it is insolent that the word Church here should signifie both precisely the Eldership and also in that same vers the whole Congregation of believers because the same Church to the which the offended brother should put in his bill of complaint is that very Church which must be heard and obeyed under the pain of excommunication 2. It is hard that the offender should be excommunicated for not hearing and obeying the Congregation of believers who are not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 over him in the Lord. 3. By grant of M. Parker the Church of believers hath not power from this place Mat 18. to ordaine pastors to themselves when they want pastors or to excommunicate their own Eldership in case of scandalous sins which is against his grounds and our Brethrens principles who ascribe this authority to the Congregation of believers because a number of believers is not an Aristocraticall part and a select Presbytery and Eldership as he saith is meaned in this word tell the Church 14. The Church here cannot well mean a visible Congregation of believers and Elders conveened to heare the Word preached so as he who contemneth two private admonitions should be accused and censured in the face of the Congregation conveened to hear Gods Word Because the Church meeteth in Christs name for Gods worship if they meet in faith and humble sense of sinne with purpose of heart to worship God in spirit and truth but there is some other thing required that the excommunicating Church meet for the actuall exercise of discipline for beside meeting in Christs name there is required that the Church meet with Pauls spirit and the rod of discipline 1 Cor 5. 4. That yee meet in the name of our Lord Iesus Christ and my spirit with power of our Lord Iesus Christ. Then Pauls spirit as an Elder who hath power of the rod a spirit and power of excommunication is required to this meeting But I doubt not but the Church of believers did meet at Corinth 1 Cor 11. for hearing the Word and receiving the Lords Supper and for ordinary worâ—hip and praying and praysing when it was not needfull that Paul should write That yee meet together in the name of our Lord Iesus and my spirit to heare the Word and to receive the Lords Supper There was no need of Pauls spirit for that therfore I conclude that this meeting of the excommunicating Church requireth another spirit and authoritative power to deliver to Satan such as was in Paul then is required in ten believers meeting in faith without Pauls authoritative power to heare Gods Word For Paul saith of his authoritative meeting I verily absent in body but present in spirit have judged c. but Paul knew that they might meet as a number of believers to heare the Word whither Paul be absent or present in spirit and this I observe for their mistake who teach that two or three agreeing together upon Earth and praying for one thing are heard of God as it is said Mat 18. 19 20. is an independent Church having the power of the Keyes for first Christ then hath not provided a sure way for removing scandals And when he saith tell the Church this tell the Church must be a definite visible conspicuously known Church now in one congregation one province one nation there be three hundreth six or ten hundreth threes or fours of professed believers if every three and every foure be an independent Church to which of all these many threes and fours shall the plantiffe addresse himselfe for they be all equally independent Churches the plantiffe is left in the midst and knoweth not his ordinary judge there be so many tribunals in one Congregation yea in one Family 2. How many key-bearing Churches shall be within one independent Congregation who may all meet in publike in one house for the joynt worshiping of God together 3. Christ in these words where he is said to heare two who shall agree together upon earth as touching one thing hath no purpose to erect visible Churches with the full power of the keyes consisting only of three or foure believers but he doth argue here from the lesse to the more as Bucer saith and as Musculus God will not only ratifie excommunication but he will heare the prayers of his children universally and this promise ver 20. of Christs presence amongst two or three is more large and generall then his promise to ratifie the sentence of excommunication even that Christ will be with his owne howbeit they be not Church-waies conveened or rather as Paraeus saith it is a generall promise of the presence of Christs grace in his Church sive magnâ sive parvâ either great or small and I grant it will prove the power of our Church sessions in Scotland very well where there is often but one Pastor and some few ruling Elders but Christ cannot promise a Church-presence of his Spirit and grace or such a presence wherby he ratifieth the censures of the Church but where there is a Church consisting of Elders and people but if the words be pressed according to the letter and definite number then it shall follow that every two believers yea suppose two women agreeing on earth to pray for one thing shall be a Ministeriall Church having the power of the keys which is most absurd For a number of believers make not a Church having the power of the keys for 1. They want the power of binding and loosing by preaching 2. They are not a golden candlestick in the which Christ walketh as a visible Church is Rev. 1. Christs meaning theâ— must be I promise my presence to the smallest Church suppose it were possible that a Ministeriall Church could consist of the least number that is even of two only but Christs purpose is not to make every two believers a visible Ministeriall Church and every believing Family a congregation having the power of the keys Vasquez the Jesuite hath arguments and ancients to speak from the Text this which we say which can hardly be answered See that Enchiridion of the Province of Cullen under Charles the V. See also Jansenius Maldonat and others on this Text. CHAP. IX Q. 9. What members are necessarily required for the right and lawfull constitution of a true politicke visible Church to the which we
God which was a solemne publick worship for there was amongst that company who ought to have bin separated v. 4. those to whom the Lord had not given a heart to perceive nor eyes to see nor ears to heare to this day So Moses in that prophaned the name of God polluted the word of the covenant Many other instances might bee given for this purpose 3. Argument If Paul doe not only not command separation in the Church of Corinth but also command and approove their meeting together in Church-communion 1 Cor. 5. 4. 1 Cor. 11. 18 20 21 22. 1 Cor. 14. 23. 1 Cor. 16. 2. where there was schismes and contentious 1 Cor. 1. 12 13. envying and strife 1 Cor. 3. 3. incest and incest tolerated such as is not named amongst the Gentiles 1 Cor. 5. 1. going to law with their brethren for gain before Infidels 1 Cor. 6. Harlotry v. 15 16. Eating at the Idols-Table 1 Cor. 8. Keeping fellowship with Divels 1 Cor. 10. 20 2 22. comming to the Lords Table drunken 1 Cor. 11. 21. eating and drinking damnation v. 29 30. A denying of a fundamentall point of faith the resurrection of the dead and that with scoffing at it 1 Cor. 15. 35. Murthering of weak soules whom Christ had dyed for 1 Cor. 8. 12 13. Pauls name despitefully traduced 2 Cor. 10. 8 9. c. Then it is unlawfull to separate from the pure worship of God because a Church is not constitute of visible Saints and a people all taught of God To this Master Barrow answereth 1. These were faults of frailty and ignorance Answ. Such sinnes of the flesh against the law of nature as envy strife extortion drunkennesse at the Lords Table are not sinnes of frailty malitious hating and reproaching the knowne and approoved servant of God 1 Corinth 10. 11 12. 1 Corinth 4. 18 19 20. are not frailties but must contaminate the worship no lesse then sins to the which obstinacy is added howbeit possibly not in alike measure and degree 2. We then are to thinke them members of a visible Church and not to separate from them howbeit in the judgement of charity we cannot say they are a royall Priest-hood the holy seed the sheepe of Christ the Spouse and body of Christ and all taught of God as you say for so the constitution of the visible Church is marred and a company that is not such is not the matter of a visible Church as you teach Barrow secondly saith We should not separate till their sinnes be reprooved and censured and they declared incorrigible and such as will not heare admonition such were not the Corinthians Answ. Then we are to esteeme denyers of the resurrection schismatickes extortioners drunkards incestuous persons fornicatours knowne so to us to bee a Royall Priest-hood the Sheepe bodie and Spouse of Christ regenerate plants of righteousnesse precious stones of Zion all taught of God aye and while the Church and Professours rebuke them and censure them 2. If these were not dispisers of Pauls admonitions why should Paul say 1 Cor. 4. 21. shall I come to you with the rodde how were some of them puffed up as though Paul would not come ver 18. and why doth Paul never once command that they separate from the Church if the Church will not use the rodde against them if the servant of God must waite on gainsayers and obstinate persons if at any time God shall give them repentance 2 Tim. 2. 14 15 16. Should not one wait on a whole Church or many in a Church and keep communion with them till God give them repentance It 's true Separatists say there should be no separation from a Church till all meanes be used of rebuking but why did not then Elijah Moses Joshuah Isaiah Ieremiah command separation and why did they command Church-fellowship after all meanes are used and Israel declared stiffe-necked Deut. 9. 6. Sodome Gomorrah Isa. 1. 10. impudent and hard-hearted Ezech. 3. 7. stiffe hearted chap. 2. 4. refusing to hearken pulling away the shoulder stopping their eare making their heart as an Adamant Zach. 7. 11 12. after all which Church communion with them in the word covenant and oath of God Sacraments Passeover circumcision prayer hearing of the word is commanded 4. Argument If the Apostle tearme the Gallatians the Church of Christ brethren Gal. 1. 2. receivers of the Spirit by the hearing of faith chap. 3. 2. the children of God by faith in Christ ver 26. spirituall chap. 6. 1. and so esteemeth them a right constitute Church not to be separated from howbeit they were in part removed from Christ to another Gospell Gal. 1. 8. bewitched foolish joyning circumcision and the workes of the Law with faith and so fallen from Christ Christ profiting them nothing fallen from grace running in vaine under the Law againe and not under Christ Gal. 5. 4 5 6 18. beginning in the Spirit ending in the flesh Gal. 3 3. if so I say then is it not lawfull to separate from a Church for the sinnes of the worshippers But the former is true Ergo so is the latter The proposition is clear because Pauls stiles which he giveth them make them the body and spouse of Christ and so it is not lawfull to separate from them Also Paul writeth to them as to the Church of Christ which is an acknowledged Church-communion 5. Argument If the Church of Ephesus be a true Church holding the candlesticke of Christ and Christs presence walking in it that suâ—fered for Christs name and fainted not Rev. 2. and yet had fallen from her first-love If Pergamus held the doctrine of Balaam and the Nicolaitans and murthered the Saints had Sathans throne amongst them ver 13. 14. If Thyatira suffered the woman Jezabel to seduce the servants of Christ. If Sardis had a name to live and was dead and her workes were not perfect before God If Laodicea turned cold indifferent and lukewarme in the matters of God and was ready to be spewed out at Christs mouth Then may a church remaine a true Church with a lawfull visible Ministry having power of the word seales and Church discipline as all these had and cannot be separated from except we would leave the candlesticke and Christ walking in the midst of the golden candlesticks 6. Argument If we are to beare long in patience and brotherly kindnesse with the most refractarie and stiffe-necked gainsayers and to preach to them and so keepe externall communion with them as Paul saith the servant of God must doe 2 Tim. 2. 24 25. much more owe we this to a whole Church which doth contumaciously suffer or defend a sinne and a sinner But the former is true Ergo so is the latter The proposition is proved If we owe patience and longanimity to one then farre more to a hundred five hundred ten hundred so Iohn Epist 3. ver 10 11. did beare with the Church wherein wickednesse was tollerated This argument is
commanded them for they have taken the accursed thing I answer This giveth us occasion to speake a little of the communion with other mens sins We partake these wayes of the Churches sins 1. When we worke with them and are helping causes this communion is unlawfull 2. When we counsell or perswade to false worship 3. When we omit what we are obliged to doe or commit that we should not doe from whence others are occasioned to sin for by morall interpretation he promoveth the sin of others who doth not give all due and obliged diligence to hinder the committing of sin 4. Those who consent to sin who approve and praise the fact and the committers of the fact 5. Those that doe not rebuke sinne 6. Those who are not displeased for it and doth not mourne for it Ezech. 9. and are not humbled for it and doth not pitty the sinner and pray that God in his mercy or justice may be glorified Now of all these we are to consider how Israel did properly communicate with Achans sin Some say there is a seventh way different from all when we in heart desire to doe what others doe wickedly in the externall fact As Israel also coveted in their heart what Achan tooke with his hands or when we doe the same sinne by Analogy that others are doing as the Marriners are punished for Jonahs sinne when as they were doing a sinne by Anology like the sinne of Ionah For Ionah fled from Gods presence as if God could not have followed him through the Seas and had been like the Idoll-gods and the Marriners did the same they worshipped an Idol-god and knew not the God that made the Heaven and the Earth Now wherein none of these seven wayes we partake of the sins of a Church how can their worship be defiled to us or have any influence to infect us but the truth is Israel were guilty of Achans sin because they did not carefully observe and waâ—ne one another to take heed that they medled not with the accursed thing but Joshuah never dreamed of Separation from Israel for Achans sin and the Text saith not that for they could not separate from the Church for Achans sacriledge which was not known to them while God discovered the same else by this Text we are to separate from all Churches where there doth live hidden and covered Achans and unseen hypocrites and thus we behoved to remove and separate up to the Church tryumphing in Heaven or then with Anabaptists find a spotlesse Church on Earth 14. They object To be present at a Masse is to countenance an Idol-worship so to be present in a Church-worship where there is any errours in the worship is to countenance the errour for what worship we countenance to that we say Amen and so we must consent to the wrong constitution of a Church where are prophane people Answ. 1. â—o countenance a worship professedly Idolatrous where the name of the worship doth import the worshipping of a false god is unlawfull for others doe interpret our presence a joynt worshipping with them But our presence at every lawfull worship that is acknowledged lawfull doth not give so much as interpretatively signification of our consent to every particular in the worship because hearing discerning choosing or refusing beleeving or not beleeving according as you find the points agreeable to Gods word or dissonant therefrom doth interveene betwixt your presence at the worship and your consent to the worship now the act of consenting approving and receiving the point of worship is formally to partake of the worship else we could not obey the precept 1 Thess. 5. 21. Try all things some things in the Preacher are to be borne with the Preachers of the Separation have not an Apostolick and infallible spirit if any of them preach unsound Doctrine the presence of the hearers doth not involve them in the guilt of the Preachers erronious worship The Pharisees corrupting of the Law was knowne and rebuked by Christ but yet Christ forbad Separation Heare them saith Christ Mat. 23. they sit in Moses his chaire CHAP. XII Quest. 12. Whither or no doe some warrantably teach that baptisme should be administrated onely to Infantâ— borne of one at least of the nearest Parents knowne to be a believer and within the covenant And who are to be admitted to the Lords Supper NOt only these of the Separation but also others whom we doe most unwillingly oppose in this hold that Baptisme is to be denyed to Infants whose nearest Parents one at least are not knowne to be within the covenant That our mind may be knowne in this we propose these distinctions to the learned and godly Reader to be considered 1. There is an inherent holines and there is a federall holines whereby some are holy by covenant that is have right to the meanes of salvation which right Turks and Pagans have not 2. People or persons are two wayes within the covenant 1. Truly and by faith in Christ and according to the election of grace 2. In profession because the word of the covenant is preached to them as members of the visible Church 3. There is a holines of the covenant and a holines of covenanters and there is a holines of the Nation flocke and people and a holines of the single person 4. There is a holines of election in Gods mind and a holines reall and of the persons elected 5. There is a federall or covenant-holines de jure by right such as goeth before Baptisme in the Infants borne in the visible Church and a holines de facto a formall covenant-holines after they are baptized Hence our first Conclusion All the Infants borne within the visible Church what ever be the wickednesse of their nearest Parents are to be received within the Church by Baptisme 1. Argument If the children of wicked parents were circumcised all without exception notwithstanding the wickednesse of their parents then the children of these who are borne in the visible Church of Christians are to receive that same seale in nature and substance of that same covenant of grace which is baptisme But all the children of most wicked parents were circumcised without exception Ergo so are the children of Christians borne in the visible Church The proposition cannot be denyed by our brethren 1. They say circumcision was given only to members of the visible Church to whom the doctrine of the covenant Gen. 17. 7 8. was preached and these were professors only within the visible Church of the Jewes as M. Best saith and if children were to be circumcised because God said I will be your God and the God of your seed then because this promise is made to Christians and to their seed in the new Testament Acts 2. 38. they should be baptized ver 38. be baptized every one of you c. ver 39. for the promise is made to you and to your children Whence it is cleare as these who were
externally in covenant were onely to be circumcised so these who are externally in covenant in the christian Church are to be baptized I prove the assumption that all the male children were to be baptized without exception 1. From Gods commandement Gen. 17. 10. Every man-child amongst you shall be circumcised ver 11. Every man-child in your generation he that is borne in the house and bought with money of any stranger that is not thy seed the uncircumcised must be cut off from his people he hath broken my covenant Here is no exception but all must be circumcised 2. Also many must be circumsed as these to whom the Lord gave the Land for a possession and was Abrahams seed according to the flesh but the land was given to the most wicked of Abrahams seed so cap. 8. 3. That all the children of the wicked are circumcised is cleare Josh. 5. Because Joshuah at Gods commandement circumcised the children of Israel ver 2. 3 7. whose wicked parents the Lord had consumed because they obeyed not the voice of the Lord unto whom the Lord sware that he would not shew them the Land which the Lord sware to their fathers And Heb. 3. 10. of that generation the Lord said They doe alwayes erre in their heart and they have not knowne my wayes there was in them an evill heart an hard heart an unbeleeving heart ver 13. 15 18. and yet God commanded Joshuah to circumcise their children therefore there was no more required of the circumcised but that they were Abrahams seed according to the flesh and by that same reason there is no more required of infants that they may be baptized but that they be borne in the christian Church for the Christian baptisme and the Jewish circumcision in substance are all one Rom. 6. 4. Col. 2. 11. Jer. 9. 26. Jer. 4. 4. 1 Pet. 3. 21 22. This is so true that circumcision is put for the Nation of the Jewes Acts 11. 2. Rom. 2. 26 27. Gal. 2. 7. Gal. 6. 15. which speech could not stand if most part of the children of the Jewes for the parents wickednesse were to be uncircumcised neither doe we reade in Gods word that ever the children of wicked Iewes were uncircumcised and if their circumcision had beene a prophaning of the covenant and dishonouring and polluting of the holy things of God the Prophets who rebuked all the sinnes of that Nation would not have passed in silence that which should have beene a Nationall sinne in them and as God determineth the quality of these that eate the Passeover that they be circumcised people and so Iewes so doth he determine the quality of these that are to be externally circumcised Gen. 17. every male child Some answer that these infants Iosh. 5. circumcised were the infants of parents dead in the wildernesse and so they were not now under the care and tutorie of their parents but under the care of others and so they might be circumcised Answ. But the death of the parents did not change their Church-state for they were still the children of wicked parents whose carcases fell in the wildernesse and that in Gods wrath Hebrews 3. 2. Argument If John Baptist Mat. 3. 5. baptized Jerusalem and all Judea and all the regions round about and that without any further examination of the aged so they would confesse their sinnes and yet he called them a generation of vipers and so the seede of murtherers and evill doers such as are vipers and Christ said Mat. 18. that of their children and such like was the Kingdome of God then the children of Pharisees and Publicans and wicked persons are to be baptized so their parents professe the doctrine of the covenant but the former is true Ergo. 3. Argument If Peter Acts 2. 38 39. command every one of the Iewes to be baptized by this argument because the promise saith he is made to you and to your children and to as many as the Lord shall call then all are to be baptized to whom the promise of the covenant and externall calling by this covenant is made but the promise of the covenant is made to the seede of the wicked within the visible Church Ergo the seale of that promise is to be conferred upon them I prove the assumption When God said to Abraham I will be thy God and the God of thy seed by the seed of Abraham he cannot meane the nearest of Abrahams seed only to wit the nearest sonnes for so by that he should have been Abrahams God and Isaacks God only and not Iaacobs God and the God of the seed of Jacob which is against the tenour of the covenant now if God be the God of Abrahams seed farre off and neare downe to many generations the wickednesse of the nearest parents cannot breake the covenant as is cleere Ezech. 20. 18 19. v. 22. v. 36 37. v. 42 43. Psal. 106. v. 40 45 46 Rom. 3. 3. Lev. 26. 44 45. spoken of the sonnes of wicked parents and if these children stand in the covenant for Gods names sake and God say expresly Ezech. 20 18 19. to the sonnes of wicked parents who grieved his holy spirit in the wildernesse walke in my statutes and walke not in the statutes of your fathers I am the Lord your God then they were in covenant notwithstanding of the wickednesse of their fathers and therefore by our bretherens argument the seales of the covenant should be bestowed upon them 4. Argument If the Lord shew mercy to the thousand generations of them who love him and keepe his commandements then the wickednesse of the nearest parents doe not remove the mercy of the covenant from the children because the mercy extendeth to the thousand generations But the former is said Exod. 20. in the second commandement and therefore for the sinnes of their nearest parents they are not excluded from the mercy of the covenant and therefore neither from the seales of that mercy If our brethren say we have no assurance of faith that their thousand generation upward hath been lovers of God and keepers of his commandements and so the children in faith cannot be baptized I answer first by this argument you cannot deny baptisme to them in faith 2. You have not certainty of faith which must be grounded upon infallible verity that their nearest parents are beleevers you have for that only the judgement of charity as Camero saith well and this faith you have infallibly that the sinnes of no one or two or foure persons doe interrupt the course of Gods immutable covenant in the race of covenanters borne in the visible Church Rom. 3. 3 4. Iosh. 5. 2 3 4. Levit 26. 41 42 43 44. Ezech. 20. 14 17 22. 5. Argument The infallible promise of the covenant I will be thy God and the God of thy seede which is made to us Gentiles as well as to the Jewes Gal. 3. 10 11 12 13. must make a difference betwixt the
but the childâ—en of beleeving parents aime at this That the faith of the father is imputed to the children which indeed reverend Beza doth maintaine Or then a worse that Infants are not to be baptized at all seeing they oppose the places that we cite for the lawfulnesse of baptizing Infants The authors of Presbyteriall government call the baptizing of children a untimous anticipation Our brethrens mind is that the Infants of both Parents knowne to be unbeleevers are not to be baptized untill they come to age and can give proofe that they are within the covenant of grace what Anabaptists thinke here is knowne Some say that Boniface the 4. in the yeare 606. began the Baptisme of infants M. Best saith too nakedly I beleeve at Augustine Cyprian Origen Cyrill Nazianzen Ambrose and many other Fathers affirme that the Church hath received the Baptisme of Infants from the Apostles What doth he not beleeve that it is most evidently in Scripture and hath he no better warrant then the â—athers Fourthly M. Best objecteth If there be no precept nor example for baptizing of Infants begotten of both Parents unbeleeving then there is no promise of blessing made unto it but the first is true Ergo the second Answ. 1. We aske with what faith and by what precept or example was ever circumcision in the whole old Testament denyed to any male-childe of the most wicked Jewes and by what precept and example is Baptisme denyed to any Infant in the New Testament for his Parents wickednesse the Fathers professing the Christian Faith Yea seeing Baptisme is denyed to Infants upon a suspition that their Parents are destitute of faith and not within the Covenant Now this suspition is not faith nor grounded upon any word of God or certaintie of faith for whether an other man beleeve or beleeve not it is not faith nor knowne by faiths certaintie to me but by the judgement of charitie Fifthly they object If all promiscuously be baptized Gods name is taken in vaine and the holy Sacrament greatly abused Mal. 1. 12. Heb. 10 29. Answ. This is to accuse God as if he had not found sufficient wayes out to save his owne name from blasphemy Nor can our brethren by their Doctrine save his name from dishonour nor the Sacrament from prophanation because multitudes of Infants borne of beleeving Parents are reprobates and yet God hath commanded to baptize them who being reprobates must be without the covenant and so the covenant is prophaned and many Infants of wicked Parents are chosen and within the covenant yet are we forbidden by our brethren to give them the seales of the covenant untill they come to age which also should be given to them and needs force by their doctrine that Christ hath commanded a certaine way of dishonouring his name which is blasphemy â—or we have not such a cleare way to know Infants cleane and uncleane as the Priest had to know the polluted bread and the polluted sacrifices Mal. 1. 7 12. as he citeth For what Infants are within the covenant indeed and chosen of God and what not We neither know nor is it requisite that we know further then that we are to know that they are borne within the visible Church Sixthly they say The Church of God is defiled Hag. 2. 14 15. Ezech. 44. 7. If all Infants promiscuously be baptized for then the people and every worke of their hand and their offering is uncleane So M. Best Answ. We deny that children borne within the visible Church are an uncleane offering to the Lord and that the baptizing of them polluteth the Nation and all the worship of the Nation as they would gather from Haggai For being borne of the holy Nation they are holy with a federall and nationall holinesse Rom. 11. 16. If the root be holy so are the branches For our brethren baptize children of Parents who are hypocrites and unbeleevers and so the uncircumcised in heart come into the Sanctuary Yea Peter in baptizing Simon Magus and Ananias and Saphira brought in the uncircumcised in heart and the strangers to Gods covenant as Best alledgeth from Ezech. 44. borrowing such abused testimonies of Gods word from Separatists as they borrowed them from Anabaptists For we preach and invite in the Gospell all the uncircumcised in heart and all the wicked to come and heare and partake of the holy things of the Gospell and receive the promises thereof with faith And when many come to this heavenly banquet without their wedding garment Mat. â—2 12 13. 2 Cor. 2. 16. Mat. 21. 43 44. It followeth not because they prophane the holy things of God that Ministers who baptize the Infants of hypocrites and prophane persons are accessarie to the prophaning of the holy things of God and that we bring in the polluted in heart to the Sanctuary of God It is one thing whom Ministers should receive as members of the Sanctuary and Church and another thing who should come in and what sort of persons they are obliged to be who come to be members To say that Ministers should receive none into the Church but those that are circumcised in heart and cleane and holy and cloathed with the wedding garment of faith is more then our brethren can prove Nay we are to invite to the wedding good and bad chosen and unchosen Mat. 22. 9. As many as you find bid to the wedding But that all that come to be received members of the unvisible Church are obliged to be circumcised in heart and holy and cloathed with the wedding garment else they prophane the Sanctuary and holy things of God is most true But we desire that our brethren would prove this The Porters that held out the uncircumcised and the strangers out of the Sanctuary were types of the Ministers and Church of the New Testament who should receive none to be Church-members and invite none to the wedding of the Gospell but such as have their wedding garment and are circumcised in heart and are cleane and holy else they prophane and defile the Church of God as M. Best saith We beleeve this latter to be an untruth and yet the strength of this Argument doth hang upon this They are obliged to be such who enter into the Church else they defile the Sanctuary Ergo the Church and Ministers of the New Testament are obliged to invite none to any Church-communion or receive them into a Church fellowship but only the circumcised in heart Wee utterly deny this consequence It is one thing what sort of persons they ought to be that should be members of the Church doubtlesse they should be beleevers And another thing whom the Church should receive in these should be professors Seventhly M. Best reasoneth thus The Minister is made a covenant-breaker Mal. 2. 8. who baptized the childe of prophane Parents and why because he offereth the blinde for a sacrifice to God Answ. What if the Parents be
esteemed beleevers and are but hypocrites indeed as is too ordinary There is then a blinde sacrifice offered to God and that by Gods commandement 2. It followeth no way that the Minister is accessary to this sacrifice Suppose it were blinde as none can judge that but God but the Minister doth what his Master commandeth him to preach unto all and baptize all that are borne within the visible Church the sacrifice may be blinde by their doctrine and ours also but that it is a sacrifice blinde to the Minister and he a Priest to offer that blinde sacrifice is not hence concluded Eighthly Best saith Divine wrath is kindled for the prophanation of holy things Answ. That this is the Ministers or Churches prophanation of holy things is not proved It is not wrath procured by the Ministers or those who receive them into the Church but wrath procured by the vnworthy incommers Ninthly Separatists reason thus If all be baptized promiscuously unbeleevers and prophane together with their children shall be counted in that state to be Abrahams seed and heires of the promisâ— and so to be Christs contrary to Gal. 3. 7 29. with Gen. 15. 6. and 17. 7. Answ. 1. A promiscuous baptizing of all we deny It may import a baptizing of the Infants of Turkes or of Papists who avow they will bring up the childe baptized in the Romane faith In which case it would seeme Baptisme should be denied as the learned Walleus thinketh 2. There is a double counting on in Gods seed 1. One according to Election and so onely the elect are counted in the seed as is cleare Rom. 9. Paul expoundeth Gen. 15. This counting in the seed is not well counted to be common to all circumcised Separatists doe ordinarily miscount and abuse Scriptures not caring what they cite so that the Margen swell with citations 2. There is an Ecclesiasticall and conditionall counting whereby all baptized are in the judgement of charity counted Abrahams heires but with the condition that they have Abrahams faith and be internally in Abrahams covenant and so are counted in thâ— seed and all baptized Hence the Separatists other two Arguments doe not conclude For they inferre if all must be baptized that unbeleevers have alike interest with beleevers in the seales and priviledges of the Church and must be counted in that same body and state with beleevers For to the externall priviledges and visible body of the Church all professors for they are not to be reputed unbeleevers have alike interest but to the inward favours and graces sealed in the Sacraments and in the true and mysticall body of Christ they have not all alike interest who are baptized 2. Separatists doe ignorantly and uncharitably in this dispute take the children of the nearest Parents that are prophane and wicked and unbeleeving and uncleane Infants for all one For because their Fathers many generations upward were within the covenant therefore are such children in externall profâ—ssion within the covenant as the Lord did shew favour to his people for Abraham and Davids sake many yeares after they were dead when their nearest Parents were wicked and prophane Psal. 106. 45 46. Psal. 105. 41 42. Ezech. 20. 2â— and chap. 36. 21 22. 2. Conclusion These onely are to be admitted to the Supper of the Lord whom in charity we judge can and doe trye and examine themselves and rightly discerne the Lords body and who in faith can annuntiate the Lords death unto his second comming againe And therefore children and infants ignorants and scandalously flagitious persons and mad persons are to be debarred But that none should be Church-members of Christs visible body but such as we can and dare admit to the Lords Supper is most false For we put a manifest difference betwixt those that are admitted into Christs visible body as ordinary hearers of the word such as are ignorants and many unconverted professors and the excommunicate who are admitted to be ordinary hearers of the word but are not to be admitted to the Supper of the Lord for so we should prophane the holy things of God and be accessary to the prophaning of the Lords body and precious bloud Here a doubt ariseth seeing Christ crucified is the substance and object of faith in the word preached as well as in the Sacrament of the Lords Supper and in no sort are Ministers to be accessary to the prophaning of the holy things of God or of casting pearles before swine Mat. 7. 6. Mat. 15. 26. Heb. 10. 29. Hag. 2. 14 15. Num. 5. 2 3. and Levit. 19. 22. How doe we admit the ignorant and unbeleevers yea the excommunicate Mat. 22. 9. 2 Thess 3. 15. to the holy things of the Gospell preached which we know they shall and doe prophane For to them the word is the savour of death unto death 2 Cor. 2. 16. and Christ is a rocke of offence and a stumbling stone a ginne and a snare Isa. 8. 14. 1 Pet. 2. 8. and yet we are accessary to their prophaning of the Lords Table if we admit such to the Table Answ. There are great odds betwixt a possible and necessary meane of salvation prophaned and a meane of salvation not necessary nor possible to reach its end for the which it is ordained If these of the Separation would distinguish this as Gods word doth they should not so stumble about the constitution of a visible Church For the word preached is the necessary and possible meane of conversion to the most flagitious and wicked hearers And howbeit they prophane the word promises and despise Christ and his covenant in the word preached yet Ministers in receiving such into Church-communion are not accessary to the prophaning of Gods holy things because they are under a necessity of offering Christ preached as the onely ordinary necessary and possible meane of salvation Therefore we admit them to the hearing and beleeving of the word per se and kindly but to the stumbling at the word by accident by their abuse comming from themselves But the Lords Supper being a Seale of our nourishment and spirituall growth in Christ it presupposeth faith and the begun life of God and the new birth and so to those who are openly flagitious and knowne unbeleevers it is neither a necessary meane of salvation nor yet a possible meane Not necessary for meat and drinke and these elements cannot nourish those who have no life of God in them at all As bread and wine are not means at all to a dead man Infestment in the husbands lands and a dowry is no meane necessary at all to an unmarried virgin remaining unmarried Also untill the communicant beleeve in Christ it is not a possible Seale for it can seale nothing to one that is not capable of nouriâ—hment seeing the unbeleever by no possibility can be sealed up in a growing communion with Christ. And this Supper is not a formall meane of conversion but a formall meane of the
presbytery of Elders in it Act. 20. 17 36. Paul prayed with them all this is not said in the word but of a reasonable good number of persons Brightman under the name of an Angell he writeth to a colledge of Angels or Pastors Bullinger he writeth to many Pastors Didoclav proveth by good arguments against Downam his Angell-Prelate that he writeth to a colledge of Angels in every Church Augustine he speaketh to the Rulers so saith Gregor Magnus Primasius Beda Haymo Fulk Perkins Fox neither hath one single pastor the power of the keyes but at the second hand the beleivers have it as the prime ministeriall fountaine of all Church discipline and so they by our brethrens learning should have bin principally rebuked 2. Also Asia was of the Roman Empire and contained Phrygia Mysia Caria Lydiâ— Troas and Thessalonica and every one of these must be proved to be single congregations and suppose they were they have many pastors in them as Ephesus had they had power of discipline in all points that concerned themselves but in things common to all they had it not but in dependence and what howbeit Synods could not so conveniently be had under the persecuting Domitian no absurdity will follow discipline may be exercised without provinciall Synods 3. It is a weake ground Every candlesticke stood by is selfe and and held forth it 's owne light For the light of the Candlesticke is a preaching Pastor shining in light of holy Doctrine Wee dispute not about independency of preaching Ministers in the act of preaching but about independency of Churches in the acts of Church-discipline And so this is a weake ground I say for independent Churches yea neither is the Pastor in the act of Pastorall shining in sound Doctrine independent for our brethren teach that private persons by the power of the keyes ordaine him call him to office censure and depose and excommunicate him if neeâ— require and this is no small dependency 4. It is no lesse loose and weake to alleadge they are independent Churches because every Church is reproved for it's owne faults reproofe is a sort of censure What because the fornicator 1 Cor 5. is reprâ—ved for a sinne that is scarce named amongst the Gentiles yea and iudged worthy to be excommunicated shall it hence follow that the fornicator is no member dependent and in Ecclesiasticall subjection to the Church of Corinth So some of the Corinthians 1 Cor. 15. 12. are reproved for denying the resurrection for this was the fault of some and not of all But will it follow these some were no independent parts of the Church of Corinth but an independent Church by themselves The faults of remisse discipline may be laid upon a whole Nationall Church in some cases when it commeth to the notice of the Nationall Church that such a particular Church faileth in this and this point of discipline but we teach not that these seven Churches made up one Nationall Church yet this hindereth not but parts of an independent and subordinate Church may be rebuked for their faults and yet remaine dependent parts 5. They object If Christ bid an offending brother tell the particular Church whereof he is a member then that particular Church may excommunicate Mat. 18. 19. and so hath power within it selfe of the highest censures and is independent but the former is true Mat. 18. Ergo Vrsine say they Zuinglius Andrewes Kemnitius Aretius Pelargius Hunnius Vatablus Munster Beza Erasmus Whittaker c. expound this of a particular Congregation Answ. 1. We shall also expound this of a particular Church but not of such an one as hath but one Pastor neither doe these Divines meane any other Church then a Colledge of Pastors and Elders 2. Your owne Parker the learned Voetius and Edmundus Richerius and the Doctors of Paris cite this place to prove the lawfulnesse of Synods yea even hence they prove Peter and so the Pope is answerable to a generall Councell 3. When an Eldership of a particular Congregation is the obstinate brethren to be censured I desire our reverend brethren to shew in that case a ministeriall governing and censuring Church consisting onely of private persons out of office to whom the offending person shall complaine I appeale to the whole old and new Testament to all antiquity to all Divines writings the word Church in this notion See also Gâ—rson 6. They object Every particular Church is the body of Christ his Spouse Wife and Kingdome and every one hath received faith of equall price 2 Pet. 1. 1. and consequently of equall power and right to the tree of Life and Word of God and the holy things the keyes of the Kingdome the promise and use of Christs power and presencâ— Rom. 12. 4 8. Therefore there is not one Church above another So the Separatists Best Answ. 1. If this argument from an equall interest and right to Christ the promise life eternall stand good not only one Church shall not be over another but also Pastors and Elders cannot be over the flocke in the Lord nor have the charge of them nor watch for their soules The contrary whereof you shall reade 1 Cor. 12. 17 28 29. 1 Thes. 5. 12 13 14. Heb. 13. 17. Ephes. 4. 11. and the reason is good but truly better with Anabaptists then with men fearing God because Pastors and people King and Subject Doctor and Scholler being beleevers have all received like precious faith and right to the tree of Life c. for God is no accepter of persons 2. By this Argument three beleevers in an independent Congregation consisting of three hundred shall be no dependent part in Ecclesiasticall subjection to three hundred and every three of independent Churches shall be a Church independent and twenty independent Churches shall be in one independent Church because all the three hundred beleevers have received alike precious faith c 3. The consequence of the Argument is most weake for precious faith and claime and interest in Christ is not the ground why Christ giveth the keyes to some and not to others but the ground is the good pleasure of Gods will Christ gave not the keyes nor any Church-authority to Judas Demas and the like because of their precious faith but because he calleth to labour in his vineyard whom he pleaseth and whom he pleaseth he calleth not 7. They object Provinciall and Nationall Churches are humane formes brought in after the similitude of â—ivill governments amongst the Romanes and there is no Church properly so called but a Parish Church See D. Ammes Answ. 1. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The lifting up of the hands in voicing at the election of Elders Act. 14. 23. so taken from a civill forme of peoples giving their suffrages amongst the Lacedemonians as our brethren say Yet it is not for that unlawfull or an humane forme a Parishionall meeting of
knowne three wayes 1. When the naked naturall images or species of the materiall object are only cast in by God and no more and this is most in dreames as Nebuchadnezar saw a tree in his dreame but knew not that it was a King Pharoah saw seven blasted reeds and seven leane kine but knew not that they were seven yeares of Famine And sometimes in a vision being in an extasie as John Rev. 1. saw 1. seven candlâ—sticks but knew not that they were the seven Churches of Asia while Christ revealed the meaning to him 2. The images and species are knowne formally as signes signifying thus and thus as Joseph by a propheticall light saw the seven leane kine to be seven yeares of famine 3. Now there is a third light to judge of the act of seeing which I take to be two-fold 1. When the Seer and Prophet is perswaded that what he seeth is a propheticall vision and not a delusion of Satan this is as saith Pareus the very light of prophecy or some extraordinary light as saith Anto Walleus There is another light whereby the Seer beleeveth these things shall come to passe which he seeth either by a common light of historicall faith as Pharoah might beleeve that seven yeares of plenty should come and Balaam that Christ the starre of Jacob should certainly arise and shine upon the Church or the Seer seeth and beleeveth by light of saving faith as Isaiah and Daniel beleeved that the Messiah should be slaiâ—e and this latter light whatever good Schoole-men say on the contrary is the light of faith for the three former lights might well be in Balaam 1. He might see in his fantasie the species of the starre of Jacob. 2. And know that they meaned no other thing then the Messiah 3. And be certainly perswaded that he saw so and that he was not deluded yea and historically beleeve that that blessed Starre should arise and yet he had no light of saving faith to beleeve that the Messiah should come So hâ—â—e we cannot but distinguish betwixt a propheticall light in the second and third sight which is gratia gratis data a free gift and the light of saving faith which is gratia gratum faâ—iens a saving grace of GOD in the sound beleever onely in this last sight 4. Conclus Hence Separatists may see that extraordinary acts of prophecy may well be subjected to the determination of the Church and yet be extraordinary inspirations and that divers wayes 1. Because theâ— were Prophets of the New Testament and so grace being more aboundant now nor under the old Testament it can bow and facilitate free-will to acts of prophecying and Paul from more grace laboured more aboundantly then they all 2. Prophecying at that time in Corinth might well be obtained by prayer upon the extraordinary impulsion of the spirit as Daniel obtained by prayer the interpretation of a dreame neither can it be proved from 1 Cor. 14. that Paul willeth them all without exception to covet to speake with tongues and to prophecy but only these that were extraordinarily moved to pray except these v. 31. yea may all prophecy be contrary to these words 1 Cor. 12. 29. are all Prophets which we cannot say 3. Because it was of old in the power of Prophets to use some meanes to dispose themselves to prophecy for when the passion of anger overclouded the fancy and the species therin then Elisha calleth for a minstrell to play and dispose the minde better as Caâ—etan saith Howbeit for all that the Text saith the hand of the Lord only actuated these species and caused him to prophecy Neither are Robinsons arguments of great weight I answer only these that have most apparency 1 If the Lords giving of the spirit extraordinary to Eldâ—d and Medad made them Prophets both in office and exercise by due proportion gifts under the New Testament are sufficient to make men ordinary Prophets Answ. The antecedent is false because to Eldad and Medad were given both the spirit of prophecy and from that gifted spirit came a propheticall impulsion actually to prophecy without any farther call of the Church for God spake then by impulsion as he doth now by his Word els one may say the physicall and naturall power that Samuell had to kill Agag was a calling sufficient to authorize him to kill â—gag and an hability to discharge the office of the high-Priest in a man of the tribe of Iudah were a good calling for one so gifted to thrust himselfe in Aarons chair which God tyed only to Levies Tribe 2. This is that which Epiâ—copius Seâ—inians and Arminians teach from Anabaptists so Theâ—phil Nicolaiâ— And Radaecius Catech. of Raccovia Ostorod Socinus the 〈◊〉 1. That the sending and calling of Ministers by the Church nâ—w when the Gospell is sufficiently promulgated is not necessary 2. That any gifted man hath a warrant because he is gifted to be a Pastour without any call or authority officiall from the Church And what will Robinson say because these Propheâ—s are gifted to baptize and to administer the Supper of the Lord as well as they are to preach the Gospell then by this goodly reason of his they may be pastors without any calling of the Church and certainly any man gifted to be a King and a Magistrate by the calling that the Word of God alloweth shâ—ll by this reason have a call to leape up to the throne and the bench but our Divines as Calvin Parcus Zanchius Iunius Beza make two difâ—eâ—rent things in a lawfull calling 1. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 gifts for the calling which is not enough 2. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 authority from the Church which is also required 2. He objecteth 2 Chron. 17. 7. Jehoshaphat sent his Princes to teach the cities of Judah with the Levites and all Princes and Maâ—istrates are bound to expound open up and apply the law by which they governe else they rule by tyranny Hence the publick Sermon of Jehoshaphat 2 Chron. 19. to the Iudges and Levites and his prayer and Hezekiahs Sermons 2 Chr 29. and Nehemiah taught the people Neh. 8. Answ. 1. Iunius and Ar. Montâ—â— Iehoshaphat 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Shalach Lesarou read he sent with the Princes the Levites to teach so that the Princes were not sent to teach 2. It is said hee sent the Princes to teach not in their owne persons but hee sent them to take care that the Levites should teach in time of that Apostacy 3. The Kings and Judges were to teach according to the judiciall Law the equity of their sentence to the ill doer as a Judge to convince a thiefe and a murtherer may lay before him the eighth and the sixt commandement in so farre as the breach of these disturbeth the peace of the common-wealth not as they are Church scandals and whither the male-factor be convinced or not the Judge punisheth with the sword so that
conversion of the Indies where there are no Pastors So Separatists and M. Jacob. Answ. I borrow this Argument what is essentiall at some time and places for the making of a Pastor is evermore essentiall but ordination of Pastors by Pastors and sending them to preach to the Indies who are unwilling to receive their ministery is onely essentiall to make a man sent thither a Pastor for peoples consent in that case cannot be essentiall where they will not give their consent at all and non ens cannot be essentiall to the making of a Pastor 2. What is essentiall for making a Minister who is extraordinarily called of God is not ever more essentiall to the making of a Minister ordinarily called of God in an Island where the Gospell is if all the Pastors should dye the people might chuse Pastors to themselves but they could not then make Pastors God onely without the ministery of other Pastors in that case should make Pastors but it followeth not hence that Pastors ordinarily have not their calling to be Pastors from the ordination of Pastors 4. They object When the Church electeth her Pastor she saith we give thee A. B. power to administer the word seales and censures and the Minister doth possesse and assume Ergo the people election is the essence of a Ministers calling So John Smith Answ. It is presupposed by order of nature that A. B. is first called and ordained a Pastor by Christ and 〈◊〉 laying on the hands of the Elders 1 Tim. 4. 14. before the people can elect him for their Pastor For if A. B. be no Pastor people cannot chuse him to be their Pastor neither doth the peoples election give any such power to A. B. That power is given by the Presbyteries act of ordination by order of nature before the peoples formall act of election As the husband who in a Lapidaries shop chooseth a gold ring for his wife and putteth it on her finger presupposeth it was a gold ring before his chusing thereof neither doth his chusing thereof make it a gold-ring but onely make it his wifes gold-ring by application to her Just so peoples election appropriateth such a man who is already a Pastor to such a charge but doth not make the Pastor a Pastor but chuseth him only to be their Pastor 5. Smith laboureth to prove that the ministery commeth not by succession from Ministers For then saith he the ministery should be before there were any Church but the Church is before the ministery and calleth the Ministers to office Answ. The Church ministeriall the governing Church whereof we now speake cannot be before there be a ministery for then there should be Ministers before there be Ministers which is against common sense The Church mysticall is before the Church ministeriall I grant but a Church mysticall or a Church of beleevers may chuse Pastors before they can ordinarily be their Pastors but they cannot make Pastors Yea and God at same times supplyeth the want of popular election while he calleth one to preach to a people never consenting he shall be their Pastor and so neither can the objector maintaine a succession of beleevers alwayes calling Ministers nor doe we hold a constant ordination of Pastors in a continuall line of succession from the Apostles made by Pastors the succession may be interrupted but then God himselfe supplyeth the want of ordinary ordination appointed by himselfe 1 Tim. 4. 14. Tit. 1. 5. 1 Tim. 5. 21 22. Acts. 6. 6. 6. They object If a Ministeriall power come saith M. Smith by succession from Presbyteries then are Presbyters Lords of the Churches faith in respect that the Church cannot enioy the holy things of God howbeit she be of her selfe the body and Spouse of Christ without the Presbyters consent Answ. Any may here see right downe Anabaptisme because the Church cannot enjoy pastorall preaching and the Sacraments without Pastors appointed of Christ for that effect Mat. 28. 18 19. John 20. 21 22 23. Mar. 16. 15. therefore Pastors are Lords of the peoples faith so they may have Baptisme and the Supper of the Lord because they are Christs Spouse and body without Pastors 2. By this goodly Argument private beleevers preaching and baptizing are Lords of the faith of other private beleevers who are their hearers because notwithstanding that private beleevers be the body and Spouse of Christ of themselves yet can they not by M. Smiths reasoning enioy the holy things of God without the ministery of private Christians preaching and administrating to them the Sacraments 7. Smith objecteth If ministeriall power come by succession from Ministers then Ministers may excommunicate the whole Church of Christ. Answ. This is most weake Illud tantum possumus quod de iure possumus And by this reason the beleevers may excommunicate the whole ministery also which is no lesse absurd 8. Smith addeth If the Eldâ—rs and Deacons dye the succession faileth and a mnisteriall power of Christ â—eing once lost can never be recovered againe and so there shall be no Ministers in the world Answ. Suppose in this or that Church all the Ministers should dye yet it followeth not that a Ministery can utterly faile in the Church It is contrary to Eph. 4. 11. and to the perpetuity of Christs kingly government and Thrâ—ne which shall endure as the dayes of heaven And what if God extraordinarily supply the want of ordination in this or that particular Church A ministeriall power is conferred in that case immediately upon some in a Church removed from any Church-consociation from other Churches and so Christs ministeriall power dieth not 9. Smith reâ—soneth thus to prove that beleevers may ordaine their owne officers That which is given by Christ to the Church is in the power and possession of the Church but officers and offices are given to the Church Answ. What is given to the Church sinaliter obiectivè that is for the behoofe and good of the Church for their edification and salvation as Gods proposed end such as preaching and baptizing that is in the Churches power and possession is most false and so I deny the maior proposition for preaching and baptizing is given by Christ for the good and salvation of women and private Christians yet women and private Christians may not preach baptize and ordaine Ministers Whatsoever is given to the Church subiectivè as to the proper subject Mistresse and Spouse to dispose and carve upon at her pleasure is in the Churches power and possession It is true but now the assumption is false because officers and offices are not so given to the Church of beleevers as to the subject Christ ascending on high gave Pastors and teachers for the Church of beleevers for their gathering and perfecting but not to the Church of beleevers 10. If two or three saith M. Smith faithfull ones have power to make a Church then have they power to make
Master of the art of painting or pourtract-making the art onely is subject to the precepts and principles of art but the person of the painter is subject to the kingly power for the King as Bellarmin saith may forbid the Image-maker to draw obscene and filthy Images or to waste too much gold or silver upon his Images or to sell his images at too deare a price Hence saith he the kingly dignity is not subject to the ecclesiasticall power or to any other power on earth but only to Jesus Christ. I answer the Prelate doth well difference in the art of paintry these two 1. That which is artificiall and is only ruled by art that the King cannot command another thing which is morall as that he sell not his Images too deare and hurt not the common wealth by spending vainly too much gold and silver on his Images and in this the King may make lawes to limit the Painters morall carriage but then he and his fellowes honour not the King who call him judge over all persons and of all causes or in all causes and that without any distinction for when two Shoomakers contend about a point of tanning leather the King is not Judge in that cause because it is a point of art which belongeth to the art not the King Also the right translation of the Bible out of the Hebrew and the Greeke in the vulgar language is a cause meerly ecclesiasticall belonging to the Church Assembly it were hard to make the King being ignorant of these mother languages the Judge of that version as he is made by them Judge in all causes ecclesiasticall howbeit de jure he is a politick Judge even in this judging by a coactive and kingly power howbeit de facto and through ignorance he cannot exercise the kingly power that God hath given him in this act 2. By this comparison the Prelate putteth upon the King â—ut a course peece of country honour O faith he as King I make him above all and subject to no power in Heaven or Earth but immediately to God forsooth so make you the Painter the Shoomaker the Fashioner subject to no power in Heaven and Earth no not to the King but only immediately to God only their persons are subject to the King and so is the person of the King as a Christian man not as a King subject to Pastors who may exhort him and rebuke him when he judgeth unjustly But 3. saith the Prelate The wounded Emperour is subject to his servant the Physitian who cureth him not as Emperour but as a wounded man and that of his owne free-will and not by coaction What meaneth this not by coaction but that a King neither as King neither as a Christian man is subject to Church-discipline to the admonition of Pastors by any ecclesiasticall coaction or any law of God but of the Kings owne free-will Consider how Court-parasites doe dishonour the Lord for if Nathan by Gods commandement was obliged to rebuke David for his adultery and murther and the man of God obliged to cry against Jeroboams Altar and the Seer obliged to reprove King Asa and Jeremiah commanded to speake against the Kings and Princes of the land and if the Kings of Israel and Judah were plagued of God because they would not heare and submit to the Prophets speaking to them in the name of the Lord then the King as a Christian man is subject to the Ecclesiasticall power not of his owne free-will as this flatterer saith but by such Ecclesiasticall coaction as God layeth upon all men whose spirits are subject to Christs kingly power 4. This comparison halteth fowlely In the art of paintry ye may abstract that which is morall from that which is artificiall but in a King as a King there is nothing artificiall or which is to be abstracted from justice and piety for all the acts of kingly authority as kingly are morall acts of justice and of piety in preserving both the Tables of the Law if a King command a stratagem of war that which is meerly artificiall is not from the King as King but from a principle of military art in him as an expert souldier if then the King as King be a morall agent and a preserver of both Tables then as King he is subject to the Ecclesiasticall power 5. Spalato faileth farre in making the end of kingly government a naturall end not life eternall as the end of sayling is the desired harbour and not the kingdome of Heaven which is lâ—fe eternall nay but if we speake either of the end of the worke or the end of the worker the end of kingly power is a morall end for the end of the worke called finis operis is by Paul said to be that we may lead a quiet and a peaceable life in all godlinesse and honesty and this is de iure also finis operantis the end which the Ring is to intend and so the dignity office acts and end of the King as the King is subordinated to Christs kingly power in Church-discipline and yet he is the most supreme politicke power on earth and in eo genere solo Deo minor and above the Pastors in that kind But doe we joyne with Papists in this 1. Papists say Kings hold their Crownes of the Pope the Church universall virtually We thinke Nero had not his kingdome from Peter nor Domitian and Traian their kingdome from Clemens and Anacletus nor Hadrian from Enaristus and Alexander 2. Innocentius 3d. forbad obedience to Emperours Bonifacius 8â— for hatred of King Philip of France forbad to pay tribute to the Emperors the Devill might blush to lay that upon us 3. Was there ever amongst us the like of their 8 generall Councell A Prelate shall not light off his horse nor bow to a King nor shall a King seeke that of a Bishop under the paine of two yeares excommunication 4. Did any of us thinke or write what Bellarmine hath spoken against the Lords anointed If Princes cannot be moved by Church-censures and if the necessity of the Church require the Pope shall free their subiects from obeying them ipsisque principatus abrogabit and shall pull their Princedome from them I say no more of this CHAP. XX. Q. 20. Whether or no the government of the Church of Scotland can be proved by Gods Word to be lawfull 1. ARTICLE Of the Doctrine and worship of the Church of Scotland WE acknowledge the Scriptures of God contained in the Old and New Testament to containe the whole doctrine of faith and good manners our Covenant rejecteth all traditions contrary without and beside the word of God and so it rejecteth all religious observances all humane Ceremonies all religious symbolicall signes all new meanes of worshipping God all Images positive Rites which have any influence in Gods worship as will-worship and impious additions to Gods word Jer. 7. 7. 2 Sam. 7. 7. Deut. 12.
the Elders of Ephesus being more then an ordinary Presbytery because of the multitude of that Church Act. 19. was of the nature of a Provinciall Assembly or a greater Presbytery Act. 20. 17 18. The fourth Assembly is a generall Assembly of many Provincef and is a cleare warrant of our Nationall Assembly as Act. 1. 15. where the eleven Apostles were Act. 6. 2. where the twelve Apostles were and Act. 15. where Jerusalem Antioch Syria and Sylicia are met in their principall guides Apostles Brethren Elders with us the King or his Commissioner is present as in the Nationall Assembly of the Jews was King David 1 Chron. 13. 1 2. Asa 2 Chron. 15. 9. Hezekiah 2 Chron. 29. 4 Josiah 2 Chron. 34 29 for the King beareth the Sword and is there as a politick President and nursing Father Esa. 49. 23. Rom. 13. 4. The members of the Councell are Pastors Doctors Elders as Act. 15. 23. sent by the Churches for that effect Act. 15. 2 3. All the Churches have place to speake propound and reason in an orderly way as there the multitude spake v. 12 13. but none have decisive voices save only Commissioners as Apostles and Elders Act. 15. v. 2 6. Ch. 16. 4. Ch. 21. 25. The acts of the Assembly oblige all the absents not present in all their members as v. 23 24 28. Act. 16. 4. ch 21. 25. not because of the authority of the Church but because of the matter which is necessary and agreeable to Gods word as Act. 15. 14 15 16 17 18. In this Assembly a Moderator is chosen who ordereth propoundeth and gathereth the voices as Acts 15. either James or Peter Silence is kept that one onely speake at once as v. 7. first Peter after him Barnabas and Paul v. 12. after them James v. 13. and these who speake are to speake to the Assembly or Moderator not to parties as v. 13. Men and brethren Also a Clerke is chosen who writeth the acts of the Assembly as v. 23. they wrote letters after this manner The Commissioners carry home from the Scribe of the Assembly the decrees of the Pastors and Elders to be observed by them as Act. 16. 4. Christian prudency and natures light teacheth the time and place for the next Assembly to be appointed most conveniently for the â—ase of all the Churches Where matters are difficile to inferiour Assemblies and parties wronged and there is no small dissension then references and appeales are made to the greater Assemblies and they determine that Paul and Barnabas or A. B. and S. â— goe to Jerusalem or the place of the next Assembly to the Pastors and Elders about this question as 1 2. All our inferiour Assemblies have brotherly correspondence by mutuall advise and counsell one with another but none have authoritative power over another as 1 Cor. 16. 1 2 3 4. 2 Cor. 8. 1 2 3. Col. 4. 17. By reason of our Assemblies no man though most eminent in gifts piety or authority may play the Diotrephes 3 John v. 10. or hath power to cast out the brethren out of the Church 2. By Assemblies order of gifts and subordination of the part to the whole is maintained as Antioch is inferiour to both Antioch Jerusalem Syria and Cilicia convened in a Synod Acts 15. v. 23. compared with 28. Acts 6. both the Church of the Hebrewes and the Church of the Grecians are subject to a Synod of Apostles and Disciples v. 2. and Peter a pillar of the Church and Paul inferiour to none of the greatest Apostles are subject to Synods Acts 11. 1 2 3. Acts 21. 19 20 21 c. 3. By Assemblies schismes dissentions Acts 15. 2 and errors or heresies subverting the soules of these of particular Churches Antioch Syria and Cilicia ver 23 24. are removed out of the Church and unity preserved In keeping of the Decrees of Assemblies particular Churches doe well v. 28. and so are the Churches established in the faith and increase in number daily Acts 16. 4 5. and Religion is restored to it's purity and the Land enters into Covenant to seeke the Lord God of their Father and rejoyce at the oath and seeke the Lord with their whole desire and he is found of them 2 Chron. 15. 12 13 14 15. and this have we found So long as we were as Judah who ruled with God and was faithfull with the Saints Hos. 11. v. 12. and went not to Gilgal nor up to Beth-aven Hos 4. 15. In Church-censures we proceed thus In private faults if a brother offend a brother he is admonished alone by the offended If that gaine him not he is admonished before two or three If that prevaile not the matter is brought before the Church which hath power of the keyes If he obey not the Church he is excommunicated Mat. 18. 15 16 17 18 19 20. in more hainous and publike faults the scandalous person is not so dealt with but where the fault is grosse and hainous the offender more quickly is delivered to Satan as 1 Cor. 5. 4. 1 Tim. 1. 19 20. Where obstinâ—cy and wilfull impenitencie is added to lesser scandals the offender is excommunicated as 1 Thes. 3. 14. yet with great meeknesse and longanimity for he is three Lords dayes publikely admonished and three Lords dayes publikely prayed for as this gentlenesse is required in the Lords servants 2 Tim. 24 25 before they cut off any 1 Cor 4. 21. The censures publike of the Churches are rebukes in publike as Paul requireth 1 Tim. 5. 20. and that the rebuke may be publike and the rebuked may make publike confession before the offended Congregation He standeth in a publike place which we call the stoole or pillar of repentance which hath both a warrant by natures light which requireth that he who speaketh to a multitude should stand in a place where all may commodiousâ—y heare to whom he speaketh as Judg. 9. 7. Deut 27. 12 13. And also in Scripture by Salomons example who on a scaffold spake to the people 1 Chron. 14. 30. and the practise of Ezra who read to the people the booke of the Law in a pulpit of wood which they had made for the purpose Nehem. 8. 4. which also is a warrant for a pulpit 2. To this publike rebuking there is a second censure adjoyned which is a debarring of the offender from the Lords Supper 1 Cor. 11. 28. which is our lesser excommunication 3. Our third censure is the greater excommunication which is done by the whole Congregation as all other censures but divers wayes by the Presbytery or Eldership judicially and authoritatively by Paul his pastorall spirit 1 Cor. 5. 4. the Minister in the Churches name pronouncing the sentence 1 Tim. 1. 20. and and by the people 1. consenting and approving 1 Cor. 5. 4 5 6. 2. Mourning and being humbled at the sinne 1 Cor. 5. 2. 3. Abstaining from all brotherly fellowship and familiarity with him 1 Cor. 10. 11 12. except where the law
that Babel also least ye be partakers of her sinnes For they teach were a visible Church never so sound pure holy faire in doctrine and life yet if they refuse to cast out a scandalous person and will spare and defend him they are to be separated from and those that stay in that Church and keepe communion with her are partakers of her sins Howbeit some saving truths remain in the Church of Rome and in that we keepe yet a materiall and reall union with Rome in as farre as they professe one God three persons two natures in Christ c. but we have separated from Rome 1. Because their Doctrine of professed and commanded Idolatry and their other Heresies everteth the foundation of Faith 2. Because they lay another foundation above the foundation Christ the Pope and a multitude of Idol-gods but it followeth in no sort Ergo we are to separate from every true Church of Christ that is incorrigible in one fault or other Where is there a Christian Church that we could live in in the Earth yea except the Anabaptists-Church a Church of white paper as faire as Heaven and the Sunne that there is not a spot on more then on the triumphing Church this on Earth is a city in the Moone 3. They object Come not ye to Gilgall neither goe yee up to Bethaven therfore people were to separate from Idolatrous Israel Answ. I have prooved that the true Prophets commanded Church-fellowship with Israel after their Idolatry and judge if this be good Goe not to Bethaven that is the house of vanity called Bethel the house of God where Jeroboams calves were worshipped ergo separate from all the worship of God in Israel we say Ex negatione speciei malè concluditur negatio generis separate from Ieroboams calves therfore separate from all true worship of God in Israel it is a bad consequence 4. They object In the old Testament the Law consisted of outward ordinances and if they were outwardly performed there was no cause to separate from them But under the new Testament all things are become now and spirituall where Christ hath given power to all the faithfull to censure scandalous sinnes all should separate from a corrupt Church So Barrow But Master Smith helpeth him All things were shadowes in the old Testament David Jehoshaphat c. suffered knowne sinnes in the land yet were they the true matter of the typicall Church being typically and ceremonially cleane for to the constitution of the typicall Church there was not required true holinesse but ceremoniall cleannesse Holinesse was required of them for their acceptation before God but not for the constitution of their Church so there were there typicall Saints typicall Hypocrites that might have no communion together till they were purified and yet being indeed wicked persons they might have Church-communion together But our constitution ministry communion separation are contrary to theirs true holinesse is required under the new Testament Robinson addeth No man could absolutely separate from the Church of the Jews for it was the onely one visible Church upon the face of the Earth tyed to one Temple Altar Sacrifice Priest-hood and place they had not excommunication as we have now the offender was by bodily death cut off from the common-wealth as from the Church Answ. It is most false that externall performances of duties were sufficient to make men members of the visible Church of the old Testament 1. Because man-slayers adulterers c. were to be cut off and excommunicated from the congregation of the Lord and their prayers were not accepted of God even by Moses his law Num 35. 33 34. Es 1. 10 11 14 15. Es. 66. 3 4 5. 2 It is false that all the worship under the new Testament is so spirituall that outward performances of externall profession in the new Testament doth not also make professours Ecclesiastically holy and separated from other people not of the visible Church for Ananias Saphira Simon Magus for a time were externally holy and differenced from Pagans without the Church by their baptisme and externall profession Then Barrow must quit all places in the old Testament for separation from a wicked Ministry as that Prov. 15. The Sacrifice of the wicked is abomination to God was as true in the old as in the new Testament Ergo the Sacrifices offered by the wicked Priest were no ordinances of God and did pollute others who did communicate with him 2. The Sacraments of the Jewish Church in substance were one and the same with our Sacraments Heb. 13. 8. 1 Cor. 10. 1 2 3. Joh. 8. 56. Joh. 6. 50 51. Col. 2. 11 12. 1 Cor 5. 7. all say this except Papists Anabaptists Arminians and Socinians and for notoriously wicked persons to use the Sacraments with prophane and wicked hearts was most unlawfull and made them in that no members of the true Church but as Sodome and Gomorrah â—s 1. 10. as Aethiopians Aegyptians and Philistins Amos 9. 7. and such were forbidden to take Gods covenant in their mouth seeing they hated to be reformed Psal. 50. 16 17. Their prayers were abomination when their hands were bloody Es 1. 15. their Sacrifices like the murthering of a man and the Sacrificing of a dogg which was abomination to God Isa 66. 3. and so are all the means they use but I believe if Christ was the Spouse Priest head of the body to the Church of the Iews as to us to the constitution of this body visibly worshipping him in a Church-state there was required that the people should be not only typically holy but really and that God should be sanctified not only typically but really by reall declaration of all that drew nigh to him and the Song of Solomon saith that the communion was morall spirituall beside that it was typicall in some points And this is direct contrary to their confession where they make Separation from a corrupt Church morall and to that separation of the godly from the wicked was taught of God before the Law under the Law and under the Gospell and they teach That all true Churches from the beginning to the end of the world are one in nature and essentiall constitution And would the Lord have these to receive the seales of his covenant as true members typicall of a typicall Church This they say is 1 To take the name of God in vain 2. That the Lord doth seale unrighteousnesse 3. That he prophaneth his Sons bloud and death then a people laden with iniquâ—ty a Sodome a generation of Idolaters might all by Gods typicall command claime to the promises of the covenant and they only 3. The common beleevers amongst the Iewes had the power of the keyes as well as we if Separatists teach right for they had power to rebuke one another Levit 19. 17. and this to them is a part of the power of the keyes as Smith saith they had power of ordination to
are not professed beleevers having saving faith can be any thing but a non-Church and such as is a non-Spouse a non-body of Christ and a non-covenanted people and so wanting all power of the keyes Quâ—re If the baptisme of that congregation can be valid baptisme not to be repeated I leave to the consideration of the learned Yea if the Minister be an unbeleever by the former grounds it can be no baptisme But some â—ay it is the baptisme of the Church and so valid suppose the Minister be an unbeliever and so want power I answer the whole congregation may be unbelievers as is the Minister and so yet the baptisme comming from the Church cometh from these who want power and cannot be valid 2. Suppose the congregation be a company of believers yet I see not how by their authority they can make the baptizing of a Pastor wanting all power to be valid for then if the Church should baptize by a Turke or a Woman that baptisme should be valid which no man can say 18. What sort of an Assembly was the meeting Act. 15. if it was a lawfull Synod of sundry particular Churches or an extraordinary meeting the practice whereof doth not oblige us If it was a meere Apostolick meeting obliging as Apostolick and if it oblige us as Apostolick how commeth it that the multitude spake and gave their mind in that which obligeth us as Canonick Scripture For that the multitude spake our brethren collect from v. 12. and how is it that Elders and brethren determine in penning Canonick Scripture Except the first be said there be many doubts here of which the way of independency cannot cleare us Q. 19. How commeth it that the Lords Apostles who were to goe through all the Nations of the world to preach the Gospell doe so often assemble together to consult about the common affairs of the Church and discipline as Act. 1. Act. 2. Act. 4. Act. 6. 4. Act. 8. 14. Act. 11. 1. Act. 13. 1 2 3. Act. 15. Act. 21. 18. Act. 20. Paul and the Elders of Ephesus v. 17 18. 1 Tim. 4. 14. it is questioned seeing these assemblies of many pastors from sundry Churches because the Scriptures saith they were occasioned by the present necessity of ordering things belonging to all the particular Churches if they were only temporary extraordinary and Apostolick meetings which oblige not us to the like practise howbeit there be the like cause of meetings in the Church now as errours and corrupt doctrine in many particular Churches as were Act. 15. the murmurings betwixt Churches as Act. 6. a suspitious practise of a pastor which seemeth to be against Gods law as Peters going in to the uncircumcised Act. 11. 20. Whither or not Paul did not some things as an Apostle as writing of Canonick Scripture working of miracles 2. And some things as a Christian as Phil. 3. 9 10 11 12 13. 3. And some things as an ordinary Elder and Pastor of the Church delivering some persons to Satan 1 Cor. 5. 4. and whither or no is Pauls rod and authority and his power of excommunicating whereof he speaketh 1 Cor. 4. 21. 1 Cor. 5. 4. 2 Cor. 10. 8. common to all believers Our brethren must say it is common to all believers 21. If the power of the keyes be given to all believers a question is 1. If Pastors have no other power of the keyes but that same that believers have seeing the ground of Christs gift is one and the same to wit alike interest in Christ and if alike power of preaching baptizing excommunicating be in Paul and all believers 2. Whither or no the calling of Christ and his Church doth not superadde and confâ—rre to him who is made a pastour some farther power of the keyes then hâ— had before he was cloathed with any such calâ—ing seeing to rebuke exhort and comfort one another are dâ—ties of the law of natâ—â—e and would oblige all suppose Christ had given the 〈◊〉 of the keyes to none at all wee see not but our brethren must deny that the calling of the Church giveth any other power of the keyes then the believer had before he was called 3. If there be not a greater power of preaching baptizing and binding and loosing in the believers then in pastors seeing believers give the power to pastours and may take it away againe 22. If six believers be excommunicated and that justly clave non errante yet remaining believers it is questioned if they keepe not still the power of the keys they must keepe that power and yet are no members of Christs visible body 23. I desire a place may be produced in all the old or new Testament where a ministeriall or governing Church is taken for a company of only believers This our brethren teach 24. If all authoritative Assemblies for renewing a covenant with God restoring of the worship of God be 1. A part of the paedagogy of the law of Moses and removed by Christ 2. If these Assemblies in the Churches of Christ now be a species of Judaisme This we deny 25. If believers exercising the most eminent acts of ordaining pastors publick censuring depriving and excommunicating pastors publick convincing gain-sayers be not formally hence made by our brethren over-seers watch-men for the soules of Pastors and guides and so Pastors of Pastors We answer affirmatively they are by the former grounds 26. Let the godly and learned consider if the Patrons of independent Churches are not to give obedience to Decrees and Canons of Synods for the necessity of the matter as a brotherly counsell from Gods Word obligeth in conscience the brother to whom the counsell and advise is given howbeit the tye be not authoritative by the power of the keyes and if in that they are not to conforme CHAP. XIX Doubts against Presbyteriall government discussed as about ruling Elders Deacons Widowes the Kings power in things ecclesiasticall Quest. 1. HOw doth Calvin and Cartwright deny that the Apostle speaketh of ruling Elders Tit. 1. and yet Junius and Beza that both a preaching and ruling Elder are there comprehended So the authour of the survey of discipline Answ. A great question anent the latitude of an haire how doth many Formalists make the Prelate an humane creature and some jure humano and yet Land of Canterbury and D. Hall maketh him jure divino 2. An office may be described two wayes 1. Directly and expressely as the Pastor 1 Tim. 3. 2. Indirectly as many things agreeing to the Deacon as that he hold the mystery of saith in a good conscience â—e be sober grave faithfull in all things c. all which are required in the Doctor and Pastor also Quest. 2. How are the ruling Elders 1 Tim. 3. omitted where the officers are named Paul passeth from the Bishop to the Deacon omitting the ruling Elder So is hee omitted Ephesian 3. 11 Philip. 1. 1. it is like they are not of Christs making who are not in Christs rowle