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A30534	A message proclaimed. By divine authority from the chosen assembly of the redeemed people in England, to the Pope (chief bishop) of Rome, and to his cardinals, Jesuits, and priests, and all other the officers of the Romish Church, where it shall meet with them through the world: that they may appear, and come forth to triall, and shew if they have the same faith, power, spirit, and authoritie, and government, as had the Apostles and true churches, before the apostacie: and this is a full invitation and challenge to the whole Church of Rome, and the beginning of controversie with her, for the perfect manifestation of the long hidden truth; betwixt them that are in the truth it self, and such as have the form, but not the power; that all things may be brought to light and true judgement. Written by an embassador for the true and living God, E.B.	Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662.	1658 (1658)	Wing B6013A; ESTC R203576	16,877	25

of the bodie of Christ and baptized into his true Church and is it a perfect seal and sign of the new birth and regeneration as is professed and doth that give all children that are sprinkled a right to the Kingdom of God and to be members of the Church of Christ and satisfie us plainly is the sprinkling of an Infant never having heard of Gospel but while unconverted and unchanged in nature the true baptism into the true Faith of Christ as it is professed Answer me plainly yea or nay 6. Whether the bodie and bloud of Christ that is meat indeed and drink indeed be carnal and visible things to be seen felt and known visiblie and carnallie and whether bread and wine that is mortall and will corrupt be the very body and the very bloud of Christ Jesus and whether Christ hath any other bodie and bloud to be known in any other way or manner then what is professed to be visiblie and carnallie known by you and is that bread after consecration the verie expresse Image of the Father and was with the Father before the world began else it is not the bodie of Christ answer me plainlie 7. Again we are not satisfied concerning your burning and torturing and imprisoning in cruel Iquisitions and Goals such as dissenteth from you and cannot believe in your church which ye call hereticks whether is not this done by your church or any member thereof and do you justifie the doing of it by the authoritie of your church and we demand of you to give us example for such practises in Scripture ever practised by the Apostles or true Church or any member thereof to burn or kill or imprison such as would not own them and were hereticks otherwise we must condemn it and judge you eternally for it and whether such practises done at Rome and in her dominions be not murder and crueltie and tyrannie and shedding of innocent bloud and of the devil the wicked one answer me plainly and satisfie us herein that we may know how to deal with you in controversie 8. Again we are not satisfied concerning the abundance of Images of the Saints set up and bowed to among you and your praying before them and to the Saints and by beads and in set forms such things you practise and also your keeping and setting apart the Saints daies and your holy daies and eating with respect to daies denying of flesh such and such daies and observing of daies and meats and drinks and fasting in your own wils and your Nunneries and keeping men and women one from another in secret houses whether are these things commanded and required of the Lord from you and we charge you to give us some example that ever the true Church practised such things otherwise if you do not nor cannot prove these your practises from the Scriptures and example of the Apostles before you we must deny you and condemn your practises for ever and cannot believe that your church is the true church nor you lawful successors of the holy Apostles 9. What you believe concerning the reign and government of Christ and his coming is he his reign and government visible and of this world or invisible and from heaven and whether liars whoremongers adulterers drunkards man-slayers and contentious men or any that lives in any sin or transgression in the first nature be of the kingdome and government of Jesus or hath any part or portion therein in time to come for ever and how may such ever have part therein and give us your knowledge in these things and also what you hold and profess concerning Election and Reprobation that we may know whether your knowledge and faith be sound and perfect in these things and to be imbraced or condemned and denied 10. What is the Man-child that hath been caught up to God and what is the reason of his being caught up and what is the Woman that fled into the wildernesse and what is the cause of her so flying and when is the the time is it come or to come that the Man-child hath been caught up the woman fled that the man-child shall come down again the Woman again return and what is that Beast the first and the second and is his kingdom come or yet to come who reigned over the Kings of the earth and caused all both small and great to worship him and killed the Saints and overcome them that would not worship him and made war against the Lamb and persecuted the Womans seed and when is it that the world wondered after the Beast is it come or to come answer these things in plainness we demand of you 11. What and who is that great Whore that sits upon many waters with whom the Kings of the earth commits fornications and who hath made Nations drunk with the wine of her fornications and who hath reigned over the Kings and dominions of the earth and is that Whore come or yet to come and whether is your church every whit free from the fornications of that Whore and will you admit of lawful trial by your fruits and works and suffer judgement accordinglie and whether the whole church of Rome or any part of her dominions be the multitudes peoples and nations and tongues the waters or which the Whore sits and whether your church be whollie free from that Woman which have drunk the bloud of Saints and of the Martyrs of Jesus and shew us plainlie who that Whore is if you can and what is her flesh and the fire that must burn it 12. Whether are the false prophets and deceivers come or to come which Christ said should come if you say they are come when did they come and who are they and how may they be known and what was their first original and out of what doth all false prophets and false prophecies come is the church of Rome clear of all the false prophets and whether is your ministrie in the verie same power spirit and authoritie which the Apostles were in is its call and ordination the verie same is its maintenance and practice the verie same and its fruits effects and end the verie same or some other let us know from you that we may lay you to the line of true judgement for all people and nations to behold And come friends let us reason a little with you further we are not satisfied that the Bishop of Rome is true and lawful successor of the Apostle Peter had Peter a triple crown and did Kings bow and kneel to him and had Peter such large revenues and money out of the Nations as the Pope Hath did Peter sell pardons for money or did any buy religion of him and did Peter at all rule over mens consciences and was Peter named holinesse we demand of you to prove rightlie and trulie that the Pope doth succeed Peter in the same Spirit in the same power and in the same conversation and that his call to

A Message Proclaimed BY DIVINE AUTHORITY From the chosen Assembly of the redeemed people in England To the Pope chief Bishop of Rome and to his Cardinals Jesuits and Priests and all other the Officers of the Romish Church where it shall meet with them through the world That they may appear and come forth to triall and shew if they have the same Faith Power Spirit and Authoritie and Government as had the Apostles and true Churches before the Apostacie And this is a full Invitation and Challenge to the whole Church of Rome and the beginning of controversie with her for the perfect manifestation of the long hidden Truth betwixt them that are in the Truth it self and such as have the form but not the power that all things may be brought to light and true judgement Written by an Embassador for the true and living God E. B. LONDON Printed for Thomas Simmons at the Bull and Mouth neer Aldersgate This to be delivered to the Chief Bishop of Rome or to his Secretary From the Elect and gathered Assembly of the chosen people in the Nation of England called in derision and known amongst all false Sects by the name of QUAKERS and by a Servant of the great God of Heaven and Earth and a Member of that people this is written To the Pope Chief Bishop and his Cardidals at Rome and to his Bishops Iesuits and Priests there and else-where thorough the Dominions of the Romish Church scattered abread in the Nations WHereas we a poor despised and rejected people among the Nations of the earth yet dreadful and mightie because the Majestie and Presence of the Lord God is with us who hath called us and chosen us and gathered us and redeemed us from among men out of kindreds and multitudes and peoples into one body and one spirit out of all the Sects upon the earth and we are of one mind and one soul having fellowship with the Son and with the Father being come through great tribulations and many fierie trials and are refined and purified and made clean and white in the bloud of the Lamb being fully recovered out of the great deluge of darknesse and Apostacie which hath overflown and drowned the whole world and all nations since the daies of the true Churches and holy Apostles And know ye that we are none of all the many Sects nor of the divers waies and formal worshippers that are but in the imitations fained of what the Saints of old spoke and performed in the Power and Spirit of God which hath been spoken and practised by all the divers Sects and false Churches without the Spirit Power and Life that was in the Apostles so that all Religion hath been and the profession and practise thereof for many Ages but as the floating of a broken vessel upon the waters driven with the several winds wanting Anchor and skilful Mariners which hath not carried to perfect Rest the hope of Eternal life But know ye that now at last through our long and wearied travels and after all our tedious seekings and our zealous practises and profession in Christianitie performed by us while darkness covered us and the earth hath the Lord set us safe upon the Rock Christ Jesus upon whom the Church of Christ firmly standeth and the gates of hell cannot prevail against and he hath made our habitation sure upon the Mountain of his house which is established upon the top of all mountains whereunto we now are gathered and rest in a certain hope and tried confidence and doth view the whole world and the state of all mankind and measureth the times and seasons thoroughout Generations and the state of the Church we perfectly know by the inspiration of the Almightie her estate before the Apostles daies and in the Apostles daies and since the Apostles daies and her increase and decrease and estate since the beginning of the world till now and at this present time to us is certainlie known by the Spirit of Jesus and the light of the Lamb which now is risen upon our Mountain and shines in our habitations And first we certifie you as for the many false Sects and Churches so called and many of the divers worshippers and separated forms of Churches risen up since the Apostles daies from the least of them to the greatest we have searched and examined and are not fully satisfied but rather the contrarie that they are perfectly sound in the Faith but rather degenerated from the Power Spirit and Life that was in the Apostles and among the true Churches before the Apostacie and we have sought out their first original and root and we find they fall short of the true Church and the Apostles first in respect of time many Generations and also in respect of life and power and puritie and they want the spirit and dominion and government that the true Churches and Apostles possessed and we certainly believe they are many of them come up and risen in a dark night long since the daies of the Apostles while the Sun was yet unrisen and while the mountains of ignorance blindnesse and wickedness covered the face of the earth and the clouds of darknesse remained upon the face of the whole heavens and while yet the man-child remains in God being caught up to him and the woman lodged in the desolate wildernesse being thither fled because of the great red Dragon And we believe not that any of them are the Lambs Wife lawfully joyned to him neither are they the Virgin in which there is no spot nor the Spouse truly in election to Christ the Bridegroom for we have had controversie with them this divers years and weighed them and measured them in the ballance of equitie and they appear to us not to be of a true descent from that Vine into which the true Church was planted but their original may be of a latter race And to say no more of them we certainly know they are foully spotted and hath not the favour nor parts nor garments of a Virgin and Christ the Bridegroom they have deeply wronged for many false Sects have risen out of the great Whore the mother of Harlots who hath been in open and secret fornication every since the daies of the Apostles and such are her off-spring and not of the true Seed elect which is heir by right of the inheritance of life eternal the Kingdom which hath no end And for as much as the Church of Rome hath openly pleaded as we have heard and some of your Members also to our faces that she is indeed the true Church and she alone and none besides and that you can fetch your original by line truly from the Apostles and Church of the Saints and are not degenerated in any particular of Faith Doctrine nor Practise from the Life and Power and Government and Spirit which was among the true Church and in the Apostles These things with others the like have we heard of you and concerning you

by many And now because the Lord hath put it into our hearts to have controversie with you and to seek out perfectly your original and to justifie you or condemn you accordingly and having the certain infallible Spirit of the Lord God to try all things we are purposed in the Lord to visit you and to examine to the foundation your rise and first beginning from whence you come by descent and what you truly are in your present estate and whether you be indeed the true Church and have the true Spirit or whether you are otherwise that all the world may be satisfied and more perfectly know the full truth concerning the Church of Rome and your seed and root we will examine and your birth and original we will search out and your faith and worship and whole Religion we will lay to the line of true judgement to justifie you or condemn you eternally for the Saints shall judge the world and your garments shall be stripped off and your secrets discovered and your whole body and members made fully manifest that the very truth of all things may appear and be imbraced and the whoredomes of all the earth may be laid open that the Just and the Innocent that hath long laid groaning in great captivity may be delivered from under all bonds of oppressions whoredoms and iniquities and this will the eternal God by us speedily bring to passse amongst you Wherefore thou Pope greatly admired and highly exalted and to all thy Cardinals Friers Jesuits and Priests and all other Officers under thee I am moved of the Lord God of heaven and earth who is the only Holiness and highest of all by this Message to visit you requiring you and charging you in the Name and Authoritie of the Dreadful and Mightie God before whom all men and Nations are as nothing in comparison but may be turned at his pleasure dashed to pieces by his mightie hand and unto whom all the sons of Adam in all the world must render an account as you will answer it to him in his dreadful day of judgement vengeance and as you love and will obey your God and Christ whom you professe and serve and as you would honour your God and bring people to your way and worship and religion upon these ingagements and by the authoritie of the Almightie I lay it upon you to answer and to return your knowledge and opinions to the particulars following which I am moved to querie and demand of you that your doctrines practises and worships and whole religion in every part thereof may be veiwed and examined and measured according to the Saints and Apostles writings and may thereby be cleared or otherwise reproved and condemned And if your profession and practises in religion be sprung from the true grounds and true Spirit and your Church be indeed the true Church that can prove her pedigree truly descended from the Church of Christ before the Apostacie and clear her felf from all degeneration in every degree and that she is perfect in the faith and worship and practises of the holy Church and Apostles of old then shall all that love God and fear him and hopes for life eternal separate themselves from all Sects and Apostates separated from you and come in and return again to you as to a faithful Mother and joyn with you in all things and adde themselves to your church only and renounce and denie all the contrarie that is not of you and so shall your names and honour be increased through all the earth But and if after lawful trial and just examination and searching out the matter it be proved against you that our are degenerated from what the true Church and Apostles were and are not builded upon Christ the true Rock and foundation but diverted from the Power Life and Spirit and true Religion which the Apostles were in and that your church is not the true church but a false Sect and your original cannot be fetch'd from the Apostles but is of a latter and more corrupted race then shall you denie all your religion and church and renounce your profession and practises and come to them and joyn with them that can prove their church to be the true Church and can fetch their original from the Spirit of the Apostles and that is builded upon Christ the everlasting foundation whoever this shall be proved to be wherefore appear and come forth to trial upon this condition joyn issue with us and answer these things in plainnesse and let us know your Judgements that a return you may receive First Whether you are indeed the only true Church of Christ his body of his flesh and of his bones called and gathered and united by the eternal Spirit of Jesus perfect in the Faith of Christ perfect in Doctrine and perfect in Worship as were the Churches of Christ in the daies of the Apostles and whether the eternal Spirit dwell in every particular member of your church and do lead each one of you into all truth insomuch that you need now no man to teach any one of you but as that same spirit that dwels in you answer me plainly yea or nay 2. Whether are you not in any particular of your faith doctrines practises and worships in any degree degenerated nor deviated from what the faith doctrine practise worship were that the true Church were in in the daies of the Apostles and whether will you admit of trial in all things you profess and practise by the Scriptures the writings of the Saints yea or nay 3. Whether your church of Rome do receive the pouring down of the Spirit upon sons and daughters immediately and every member receive the holy Ghost and is filled therewith and baptized therewith as in the true church Acts 2. and whether you have received the holy Ghost and everlasting Comforter immediately as did the true church in the daies of the Apostles Answer me these things in the truth of your hearts that you may be owned or denied 4. Whether the faith you profess have perfectly purified your hearts from all sin and hath given you victorie over the world that now the body of sin is put off and you are free from sin and doth not commit sin but are every member of you without spot and wrinkle and cleansed from all unrighteousness being the servants of righteousness and not of sin and whether you believe this condition to be attainable in this life upon earth and to be injoyed and waited for yea or nay 5. What is your ground of sprinkling Infants with water and whether he that first instituted it had the gift of the eternal Spirit and was led thereby for we know it was first ordained at Rome in your church and all the Protestants received it from you who are not able to give us a sufficient reason thereof but we are not satisfied therein therefore tell us whether are people thereby made members

those you call Heriticks whether would not you be prevailed against by many other Sects lay away your persecution of people that you call Heriticks and do not deal with them after the manner which you have done by inquisitions and such like and onlie by sound arguments and the power of the Spirit defend your religion And dare you suffer a certain number of us to come among you and preach what we hold and a certain number of you shall freelie come among us and freelie preach what you hold without persecution or anie violence as we would expect and have the same from you engage man for man with us and do no otherwise deal with ours then we deal with yours and take the free libertie to deal with our men as we deal with your men but no otherwise and let each of the messengers preach and hold forth what they would have and what they reallie hold and believe and convert the most either of them can to their own Religion and then let all the world see which hath the Power and Spirit of God with them and whether your Ministers or our Ministers do turn the more people from you to us or from us to you and send your answer whether you will agree to the premises and if you do send your Messengers when you please and we will engage in the Lord their persons shall not be harmed but if they were then take man for man life for life of our men sent to you and let that God be the true God that appears in most power and authoritie and let him be worshipped for ever whose power converts the most to the knowledge of him out of wickedness and let that Church be the true Church which cannot be overcome and as you are willing to be made manifest join issue with us in this business and propound your own time when the men shall return whether the continuance of the matter be for daies months or years and let each of the men return without harm of person and this will be a way trulie to trie and make manifest all things to all the world and whether you or we be in the right way of the right Church use you no weapon against us but the soundest arguments you can by words according to the Scriptures and the same weapons we will use against you and no other but the authoritie of the Spirit of God and arguments thereby which shall be according to the Scriptures the Apostles writings and the testimonie of the true Church and hereby in the sight of the whole world let your church and faith and principles and practises and worships be tried and our church faith doctrines and worships and practises and whether it be yours or ours that do overcome or are overcome let that deside the controversie and whether it be you or we that are soonest overcome and that prevail the one against the other in this trial and in these proceedings and that which is overcome and prevailed against is not the true Church against which nothing can prevail no not the gates of hell and whether your Church or ours cannot be prevailed against by the other let that be the true Church for that which is prevailed against is not the true Church and whether it be your or we that are elected and of the election which cannot be deceived if we be not elected and you deceivers then it is possible you may deceive us but if we prove that we be in the election then you cannot deceive us and if we be in the truth and of the true Church then it will be happiness for you to be converted and turned to us come to the trial as soon as you will and if you be in the election you need not be afraid to be deceived by any for the elect cannot be deceived whoever that be whether your Church or our Church be the true Church and in the election and if your Ministers among us do preach the same things and by the same spirit and hold forth the verie same faith principles worship and practises which we do and are of and it be proved they are of the same spirit and principles we are of agreeing in all things then we will own them to be Christs Ministers and if our Ministers among you do hold forth that true faith and principles and practises and worship and by the same spirit as Christ and his Apostles did and prove what they say by the Scriptures then shall you receive them as the Ministers of Christ and renounce all that you hold and profess contrarie to what they hold and preach among you and hereby things may come to a fair triall and the naked truth may be made manifest whether your Church or our Church be the true Church of Christ trulie descended from the Church of the Saints of old and whether your Ministers or our Ministers be the lawful successors of the Apostles and we would willinglie come to deal with you upon these termes that it may be manifest who it is that are of the true seed and who it is that are of the election that cannot be deceived and we have manie more things to write unto you and to querie of you and to demand when we receive your answer and if you give us ground to accuse you in your return we will thresh you and lay it to your charge by the authoritie and spirit of the Lord and if you answer us plainlie we shall more perfectlie know what to do To the Pope THou mountain hear the Word of the Lord God thus saith the Lord God unto thee I will lay thee low I will break thee down I will stain the glorie of all flesh my sword shall enter into the heart of my enemies I will slay the wicked and I will crush the head of the ungodlie and I will grind the hard hearts unto pieces I will come in a day unexpected I am at the door behold me and I will take vengeance without pitie upon all my enemies my hand shall not spare my eye shall not pitie but I will tear and rend and give unto thee and unto all mankind the fruit of your own doings Innocent bloud cries unto me that hath been unjustlie shed and the righteous soul groans under the Altar unto me and now I am risen and I am begun to work in the earth and I will goe through nations and tread them down under my power I have raised a seed which shall thresh the mountains and my word is gone forth out of my mouth which shall beat them to dust and my power shall knock at thy gates and break down thy strength and it shall prevail against thee Oh thou mountain whose seat is high and whose power is great and who hath been able to make war with thee thou hast swallowed up the poor and needie and thou hast eaten up the innocent as the exe eateth up grasse thou hast continued for