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A19033 The plea for infants and elder people, concerning their baptisme, or, A processe of the passages between M. Iohn Smyth and Richard Clyfton wherein, first is proved, that the baptising of infants of beleevers, is an ordinance of God, secondly, that the rebaptising of such, as have been formerly baptised in the apostate churches of Christians, is utterly unlawful, also, the reasons and objects to the contrarie, answered : divided into two principal heads, I. Of the first position, concerning the baptising of infants, II. Of the second position, concerning the rebaptising of elder people. Clyfton, Richard, d. 1616. 1610 (1610) STC 5450; ESTC S1572 214,939 244

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ge_fw-mi a_o combat_n with_o the_o lord_n people_n in_o deed_n such_o brave_a speech_n 〈…〉_o ee_v from_o goliath_n 1_o sam._n 17._o 10._o that_o defy_v the_o whole_a host_n of_o be_v 〈…〉_o and_o from_o rabsake_n 2._o king_n 18._o 23-25_a against_o the_o jew_n but_o ●as_v never_o hear_v that_o a_o israelite_n profess_v the_o religion_n of_o god_n use_v 〈◊〉_d proud_a chalendge_n as_o this_o man_n do_v i_o pray_v you_o mr._n smyth_n wherein_o have_v the_o separation_n offend_v you_o or_o my_o wise_a wrong_a you_o that_o you_o desire_v rather_o to_o quarrel_v with_o they_o then_o with_o other_o church_n hold_v the_o same_o truth_n in_o this_o thing_n against_o you_o to_o the_o elder_n and_o brethren_n be_v you_o most_o welcome_a and_o glad_a they_o be_v of_o you_o so_o long_o as_o you_o walk_v in_o the_o faith_n with_o they_o why_o be_v it_o that_o you_o ●●e_v become_v their_o adversary_n be_v it_o because_o they_o have_v reject_v you_o and_o your_o company_n for_o your_o error_n which_o you_o wilful_o maintain_v alas_o they_o must_v ●o_o it_o unless_o they_o will_v become_v unfaythful_a to_o god_n next_o after_o this_o challenge_n mr._n smyth_n charge_v the_o separation_n with_o a_o 〈◊〉_d constitution_n ministry_n worship_n and_o government_n say_v be_v it_o know_v to_o all_o the_o separation_n that_o we_o account_v they_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o con_fw-mi 〈…〉_o tion_n to_o be_v as_o very_o a_o harlot_n as_o either_o her_o mother_n england_n or_o her_o grandmother_n 〈◊〉_d be_v and_o although_o we_o hold_v she_o a_o true_a church_n in_o our_o ignorance_n yet_o now_o be_v better_o inform_v etc._n etc._n we_o protest_v against_o she_o as_o well_o for_o her_o false_a constitution_n as_o for_o her_o false_a ministry_n worship_n and_o government_n etc._n etc._n the_o false_a constitution_n be_v of_o infant_n baptize_v concern_v the_o constitution_n of_o a_o church_n we_o do_v not_o hold_v that_o any_o visible_a church_n can_v stand_v only_o of_o infant_n neither_o 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