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A17912 A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, prooved by the nonconformists principles Specially opposed vnto Dr. Ames, his Fresh suit against humane ceremonies, in the point of separation only. Also Dr. Laiton, Mr. Dayrel, and Mr. Bradshaw, are here answered, wherein they have written against us. With a table in the later end, of the principal occurrents in this treatise. By Iohn Canne, pastor of the ancient English church, in Amsterdam. Canne, John, d. 1667? 1634 (1634) STC 4574; ESTC S117015 174,263 303

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institution_n of_o god_n be_v expose_v to_o the_o mockage_n of_o the_o wicked_a and_o the_o action_n of_o the_o church_n place_v only_o in_o a_o outward_a form_n therefore_o such_o evidence_n be_v require_v which_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o charity_n do_v declare_v true_a and_o sincere_a repentance_n and_o which_o serve_v as_o probable_a witness_n of_o the_o thing_n be_v it_o here_o special_o note_v that_o excommunication_n and_o the_o absolution_n or_o reconciliation_n of_o the_o excommunicate_a be_v action_n common_a to_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o not_o of_o any_o private_a person_n or_o person_n for_o howsoever_o the_o elder_n for_o the_o peace_n profitt_a and_o good_a order_n of_o the_o church_n be_v to_o administer_v these_o ordinance_n yet_o the_o whole_a church_n must_v give_v their_o consent_n free_o hereto_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o after_o till_o the_o year_n 250._o every_o man_n that_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n have_v in_o the_o church_n his_o voice_n in_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n cause_n and_o determination_n of_o the_o church_n christ_n do_v not_o say_v when_o there_o be_v cause_n of_o accuse_v or_o censure_v any_o tell_v the_o bishop_n but_o tell_v the_o church_n and_o accord_o in_o the_o 6._o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o long_o after_o as_o the_o epistle_n of_o cyprian_n do_v manifest_a they_o be_v judge_v by_o the_o word_n in_o a_o assembly_n of_o presbyter_n and_o brethren_n as_o the_o incestuous_a corinthian_a which_o show_v we_o that_o neither_o one_o man_n 4_o nor_o the_o presbyter_n alone_o be_v judge_n in_o such_o cause_n but_o church_n which_o by_o scripture_n either_o clear_v or_o censure_v any_o person_n accuse_v as_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n he_o appear_v either_o guilty_a or_o not_o guilty_a etc._n etc._n many_o reason_n be_v yield_v by_o the_o nonconformist_n to_o prove_v this_o thing_n and_o all_o objection_n make_v against_o it_o sound_o answer_v and_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o learned_a allege_v for_o it_o as_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v large_o in_o their_o book_n name_v in_o the_o margin_n the_o like_a they_o speak_v touch_v the_o admission_n of_o any_o member_n into_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n that_o person_n which_o be_v to_o be_v join_v ought_v public_o to_o come_v before_o the_o face_n of_o the_o congregation_n and_o there_o to_o be_v examine_v of_o his_o faith_n knowledge_n etc._n etc._n and_o be_v find_v meet_a by_o the_o general_a consent_n of_o the_o people_n he_o be_v joyfullie_o receive_v but_o of_o this_o more_o hereafter_o moreover_o if_o the_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n shall_v refuse_v to_o do_v their_o duty_n yet_o may_v the_o brethren_n notwithstanding_o perform_v church_n action_n and_o the_o same_o be_v to_o be_v esteem_v good_a and_o lawful_a to_o come_v unto_o a_o conclusion_n this_o form_n of_o church_n government_n here_o describe_v be_v unchangeable_a ordinary_a best_a and_o perpetual_a common_a to_o all_o true_a church_n and_o 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say_v the_o learned_a but_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v unlawful_a 3_o and_o antichristian_a say_v mr._n dr._n ergo_fw-la it_o be_v lawful_a to_o separate_v from_o it_o 111._o if_o the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v not_o christ_n key_n she_o be_v not_o his_o house_n say_v mr._n dr._n but_o the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v not_o 181._o christ_n key_n say_v mr._n brightman_n and_o other_o ergo_fw-la she_o be_v not_o his_o house_n and_o so_o consequent_o to_o be_v separate_v from_o to_o separate_v from_o corruption_n be_v lawful_a say_v mr._n dr._n the_o ministry_n worship_n and_o church_n government_n of_o england_n be_v corruption_n say_v mr._n dr._n ergo_fw-la it_o be_v lawful_a to_o separate_v from_o the_o ministry_n worship_n and_o church_n government_n of_o england_n i_o do_v not_o gather_v up_o these_o his_o argument_n for_o any_o need_n we_o have_v of_o they_o but_o to_o put_v he_o in_o mind_n of_o his_o own_o take_v heed_n for_o if_o he_o say_v 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charity_n to_o relieve_v any_o poor_a saint_n of_o god_n though_o the_o magistrate_n forbid_v it_o therefore_o we_o may_v not_o omit_v this_o duty_n of_o piety_n though_o the_o magistrate_n forbid_v it_o 6._o if_o the_o lord_n foresee_v the_o averseness_n of_o magistrate_n to_o the_o practice_n of_o this_o church_n government_n and_o yet_o do_v never_o exempt_v nor_o dispense_v with_o the_o people_n omission_n therefore_o than_o we_o may_v not_o omit_v or_o forbear_v this_o duty_n though_o the_o magistrate_n do_v not_o tolerate_v it_o but_o the_o lord_n foresee_v the_o averseness_n of_o magistrate_n to_o the_o practice_n of_o this_o church_n government_n and_o yet_o do_v never_o exempt_v nor_o dispense_v with_o the_o people_n omission_n of_o this_o duty_n therefore_o we_o may_v not_o omit_v or_o forbear_v this_o duty_n though_o the_o magistrate_n forbid_v 7._o whatsoever_o
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