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A10907 An answer to Mr. Fisher the Iesuite, his fiue propositions concerning Luther. By Mr. Rogers, that worthy Oxford diuine. VVith some passages also of the said Mr. Rogers with the said Mr. Fisher. Hereunto is annexed Mr. VV.C. his dialogue of the said argument, wherein is discouered Fishers folly Rogers, Henry, ca. 1585-1658.; Crashaw, William, 1572-1626. aut 1623 (1623) STC 21177; ESTC S116093 13,598 35

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