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A52138 Plain-dealing, or, A full and particular examination of a late treatise, entituled, Humane reason by A.M., a countrey gentleman. Marvell, Andrew, 1621-1678. 1675 (1675) Wing M876; ESTC R23029 77,401 164

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into_o error_n much_o soon_o than_o the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n especial_o in_o such_o thing_n as_o he_o be_v not_o a_o capable_a judge_n of_o for_o sure_o every_o man_n own_o reason_n be_v much_o more_o subject_a to_o a_o possibility_n of_o error_n than_o a_o whole_a church_n be_v to_o a_o possibility_n of_o a_o total_a change_n and_o alteration_n so_o that_o it_o must_v still_o remain_v much_o safe_a to_o rely_v upon_o the_o church_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n i_o have_v lay_v down_o than_o it_o be_v to_o rely_v whole_o upon_o our_o own_o reason_n 4._o the_o last_o objection_n i_o shall_v answer_v be_v this_o that_o if_o we_o that_o be_v illiterate_a must_v rely_v upon_o our_o church_n in_o all_o thing_n above_o our_o capacity_n that_o then_o we_o ought_v to_o have_v practise_v the_o same_o rule_n when_o we_o be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o consequent_o ought_v never_o to_o have_v separate_v from_o it_o and_o therefore_o that_o our_o reformer_n be_v schismatic_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o the_o romish_a doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n and_o their_o idolatry_n in_o worship_v the_o host_n etc._n etc._n beside_o the_o pope_n usurpation_n upon_o our_o regal_a authority_n be_v so_o direct_o contradictory_n to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n that_o he_o must_v needs_o see_v it_o that_o do_v not_o wilful_o shut_v his_o eye_n second_o our_o reformation_n be_v carry_v on_o not_o by_o private_a person_n but_o by_o the_o public_a power_n of_o the_o nation_n and_o by_o all_o the_o wise_a and_o most_o learned_a man_n in_o it_o and_o consequent_o it_o can_v be_v no_o schism_n it_o be_v grant_v upon_o so_o warrantable_a a_o cause_n and_o do_v in_o so_o orderly_a a_o manner_n to_o conclude_v