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A42468 The churche[s] publick order argued and opened by a second confere[nce] betweene Silvanus and Himeneu[s] ... wherein the ordinances of the Church of Engla[nd for] Gods publick worship are proved to beagreeable to Gods sacred word / by L.G. [i.e. I.G.], a continuall friend and lover ofthe tr[uth]. J. G. 1643 (1643) Wing G33; ESTC R42041 23,389 47

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as is the Ordinance of the Supper of the Lord to them that never attaine to eate by faith aswell as by sence And thus I conclude that no believing man is to be denyed communication in the Supper of the Lord except in such cases as the Scripture and so also the Traditions of the Church hath made exception according to the exhortation before the Communion Hymen I am fully satisfied hitherto I pray let me crave you● opinion but in one thing more at this time and that is concerning singing of Psalmes as it is used in the Church of England Sil. This part of Gods publick worship as it is used i● our Church is the most corrupt of all other for althoug● the Church allowes Psalmes to be sung yet the Statute-La● doth not justifie and warrant the Meeter of Thomas Stern● hold and Iohn Hopkins and others for they are very corruptly done and very false and contrary to the prose if you compare one with another as Psalme 103. verse 19. wher● the Meeter saith The heavens are the Lords foot-stoole bu● the Prose saith not so and other Scriptures saith The heavens are his Throne and the earth his foot-stoole Not only fal●●fying the text but also that wherein it doth agree in ma● places the phrases expressions in the Meeter are impertinent not proper And yet I have heard many Ministe● after they have in their Sermons for an houre together e●veighed against all formes of prayers and condemned it Hell that they themselves have called for a Psalme to b● sung which is no other than presently to do the same thi● themselves they did condemne others for an houre together And in this case the Apostle speaks expressely th● art inexcusable O man whosoever thou art it matters no● whether thou art a Preacher or a Hearer yong or old ric● or poore that judgest for wherein thou judgest anothe● thou condemnest thy selfe for thou that judgest dost t●● same things Rom. 2.1 For a Psalme is a prayer or a pray 〈◊〉 and he that condemnes others in praying a form condem● himselfe in singing a forme Hym. I pray shew me how the Scriptures speak of this part Gods worship Sil. The Scriptures declare it to bee a speciall part of ●ods worship both publick and private the Apostle admonisheth the Church of the Ephesians to bee filled with 〈◊〉 spirit speaking to your selves saith he in Psalmes and ●…nes and spirituall songs singing and making melody in your 〈◊〉 to the Lord Ephes 5.18 19. And David that holy Prophet made Psalmes for the prasse and glory of God in sundry respects and occasions of prayers and prayses and gave ●●mes to the sonnes of Korah to sing in the Temple and ●●ngs of degrees Psalme 123. and Psal 84. It is a spirituall service and the Apostle to the Corinthians seems to speak of it as of other ministeriall gifts for the ●●ifying of the Church 1 Cor. 13.26 when yee come toge●●er every one of you hath a Psalme a Doctrine hath a ●ongue hath a Revelation hath an interpretation let all ●ings be done to edifying by which it appears that Psalms 〈◊〉 spiritual songs are of continuall study practice and use the Churches and that such as have gifts therein may impose formes even for the publike use of the Churches 〈◊〉 Gods worship Paul and Sylas prayed at mid-night and ●●g Psalmes and prayses unto God in Prison Acts 16.25 ●nd Saint Iames his generall rule is is any among you afflict●● let him pray is any merry let him sing Psalmes Iames 5. 〈◊〉 must for this time take my leave friend Hymeneus the Lord blesse unto us the consideration of these things and all other truthes to whom be glory world without end AMEN FINIS
come as doing it by that place and seniority he had in the Church And therefore he speaks in the singular number I will and not in the plurall and so in another place he speaks as if the care of all the Churches lay upon him 2 Cor 11.28 And as the care was specially in gathering and edifying the Churches by Doctrine so also in ordering therefore he saith as he had given order to the Church of Galatia about things that had not beene ordered by the Scriptures even so doe yee saith hee to the Church of Corinth 1 Cor. 16.1 And he rejoyceth in the holy Order that was in the Church of Collossia being much comforted in the order as well as in the grace it self in these words for though I be absent in the flesh yet am I with you in the spirit joying and beholding your Order and the stedfastnesse of your faith in Christ Col. 2.5 And this was not Saint Pauls practice alone but generall in all Churches by other Apostles Elders and Evangelists as appeares by his Epistle to Titus saying For this cause left I thee in Crete that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting and ordaine Elders in every City as I had appoynted thee Titus 1.5 All which in totall in what hath beene said the Apostle to the Thessalonians makes a conclusion without any exception in these words Therefore Brethren stand stast and hold the traditions which yee have beene t●ught whether by word or by our Epistle 2 Thes 2.15 Hym. These Scriptures doe clearly shew that the Church hath power to prescribe Order and make rules for such things as Gods word doth not particularize so that the traditions be consonant thereunto Sil. That the rule for reading the Scriptures is agreeable to the Word I have sufficiently proved before but that you may beyond all exception be satisfied here what the Apostle saith to 〈◊〉 ●hurches of Collosse and and Laodicea And when th● 〈◊〉 is read amongst you cause that it be also read in the Church of the Laodiceans Col. 4.16 And the command of our Lord Christ to search the Scriptures is to read the Scriptures Iohn 5.39 According to that Matthew 29. Let him that readeth consider as also blessed is hee that readeth and they that here the words of this prophesie and keep those things that are written therein Rom. 1. Hym. But what warrant is there for the reading of those parts of the Scriptures appoynted of the Psalmes the Chapters the Epistles and Gospels Sil. If you grant it is warrantable to read them Order and conveniency calls to authority to appoynt which and how much for all the Scriptures cannot be read at one time therefore it was well done of the Church to divide the Prophesies of each Prophet that are long and the History of the Evangelists and the Epistles of the Apostles into severall parts or Chapters and in the use we find it profitable and therefore warrantable though there be no rule for it in Scripture but meerely of humane Order And for the Epistles and Gospells they are but parts of the Chapters for the most part of them but such portions of Scriptures as doe most fit the occasion and the time of solemne Feasts and dayes of humiliation According to our Saviour Christs example Luke 4.17 It is said there was given unto him the Book of the Prophet Esayas And when he had opened the book hee found the place wherein it was written The spirit of the Lord is upon me because he hath aunoynted me to preach the Gospell to the poore he hath sent me to heale the broken hearted c. to preach the acceptable yeare of the Lord. And when he had read this portion of Scripture hee closed the book and gave it againe to the Minister By which it is plaine our Saviour Christ sought in the Prophesie for that part and such a part it was that fitted the particular occasion as himselfe saith verse 21. This day is this Scripture fulfilled in your eares Hym. I must confesse this is cleare to me But pray shew how the Statutes and the Scriptures agree in appointing set formes for prayer and prayses in the Congregation Sil. Authority in appoynting a forme for prayer and prayses doth not require nothing but set formes for the publick for before and after Sermons their prayers are left to their owne ordering and each man is free in regard of any forme imposed But the Church for the better direction of the Minister and edification of the many doth appoynt and command some to be used but they are such as are both for matter and manner without just exception 〈◊〉 onely observing there in words of Truth to the onely tru● God to which we adding our spirituall affections make up the true Worship of God in every part of it as our Lord hath taught us God is is a spirit and hee that worships God must worship him in Spirit and Truth Iohn 4.29 T The brevity shortnesse and exactnesse of these formes ●f prayer following are agreeable to the wisedome of So●omon his Order for Gods publike worship When thou goest saith he into the house of God bee not rash with thy mouth c. for God is in heaven therefore let thy words be few Eccles 5.1 2. And such is the councell of the King of Kings the wisedome of wisedome Matth. 6.7 When yee pray use no vaine repetition as the heathen doe c. for your father knoweth what things you have need of before you aske him According to which see and read the generall Confession of sinnes and that O God which art the Author of peace and lover of concord c. As also O Lord our heavenly Father Almighty and everlasting God which hast safely brought us to the beginning of this day c. with the rest examine and see how plain and full the expressions are so briefe pithy and pertinent as words can possibly bee thought of termes of such excellent yet plaine meaning that the lowest and meanest capacity may joyne in affection that a sweet harmony may be made by the supplication of the whole Congregation in truth to the God of Truth Now to prove that such set-formes of words are lawfull to pray and invocate God by the Scriptures are plentifull both in the Old and new Testament as Luke 11.2 The Disciples desiring the Lord to teach them to pray as Iohn taught his Disciples our Lord saith unto them when yee pray say Our Father which art in Heaven c. And he gives them a perfect forme of words And the example of our Blessed Lord himselfe is left written for our example Matthew 26.44 that he prayed the third time the same words Marke it here is a large consideration in a short Petition excellent in brevity pertinency fervencie and importunity all the men in the world cannot answer this command and example of our Saviour Christ which gives warrant without controule that God may be worshipped truely