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faith_n	church_n	scripture_n	tradition_n	15,184	5	9.5685	5	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A19242	The abatement of popish braggs, pretending Scripture to be theirs. Retorted by the hand of Alexander Cooke	Cooke, Alexander, 1564-1632.	1625 (1625)	STC 5658; ESTC S108620	41,426	69

thirteenth Bishop of Rome after S. Peter Dioscorus Bishop of Alexandria who denied the two Natures of Christs cried out in the Councell at Chalcedon Ego testimonia habeo sanctorum patrum Athanasij Gregorij Cyrilli in multis locis Ego cum patribus eijcior ego defendo patrum dogmata non transgredior in alique horum testimonia non simpliciter ne● transitorie sea in libris habeo I haue the testimonies of the holy Fathers Athanasius Gregories Cyrils and that in many places I am condemned with the Fathers it is I who defend the Fathers opinions I doe not swerue one Iod from them I haue their testimonies not by hearsay and at second hand but in their owne Bookes The Nestorians who held many heresies at the Councell of Ephesus made this protestation Nos in sanctorum patrum qui apud Nic●nam conuenerant caeterorumque qui post illos in Ecclesia claruerunt Eust achij Antiocheni Basilij Caesariensis Gregorij ●oannis Athanasij Theophili Damasi Romani Ambrosij Mediolanensis reliquorum que qui cum memoratis consentiunt doctrina perseuer amus pijsque illorum vestig ijs insistimus quippe qui Euangel●cam Apostolicamque Propheticam doctrinam plenè assecuti exact am Oxthedoxae fidei Rogulam nobis tradiderunt quam doctrinam nos inconcussam inflexamque retinere satagimus c. We maintaine the doctrine which the holy Fathers assembled at Nice and others who were men of fame in the Church since that time maintained Such as Eustac●ius of Antioch Basil of Caesarea Gregory Iohn Athanasius Theophilus Damasus of Rome Ambrose of Millain and the like Wee tread in their most holy steps who hauing fully attained to the knowledge of the Gospel and of the Apostles and of the Prophets haue left vs an exact rule to follow which wee desire also to leaue vnto our posterities c. Certaine Heretickes in a Councell held vnder Martin 1. cried out Haec pietatis dog mata tradiderunt nobis qui ab initio praesentialiter viderunt vel Ministri verbi facti sunt eorumque discipuli successores sequentes à Deo inspiratae Ecclestae doctores c. These religious opinions were deliuered vnto vs by such as were made Ministers of the Word at the beginning and by their disciples and successors and since by the Doctors of the Church who were illuminated by God c. And this is so plaine that Cope confesseth it in these words Veteres haeretici cum patres ipsis apertissimè aduer sarentur cos tamen à se stare magna contention● clamabant The ancient Hereticks cried out with open mouth that the Fathers made for them though indeed the Fathers were flat against them And if Copes acknowledgement will not satisfie you you may find as much acknowledged by Baronius Annal To. 5. An. 431. Nu. 170. Pa. But what say you to Saint Anstine whom I alledged as witnessing That Hereticks insist vpon Scripture only Prot. I say it is not credible that Saint Austin euer said so or thought so for he himselfe witnesseth That Hereticks haue insisted vpon Visions and Miracles and Successions and Councells and Fathers as well as vpon Scripture That Heretickes insisted vpon Visions Saint Austin witnesseth De vnitate Ecclesiae Cap. 16. That Hereticks haue insisted vpon Miracles Saint Austin witnesseth Tract 13. in Ioh. That they haue insisted vpon Succession S. Austin witnesseth Epistola 165. And that Maximini●s the Arian insisted vpon the Councell at Arminium That the Donatists insisted vpon S. Cyprian and other Fathers concurring in opinion with him That Pelagius insisted vpon Hilary and Ambrose and Chrysostome and Sixtus Bishop of Rome and Ierome and vpon some passages of S. Austin we read in S. Austin Now except hee would contradict himselfe how can it bee that hee who witnesseth these things should witnesse also That Hereticks insisted vpon Scripture only Pa. It seemes by your speech That Hereticks vsed all kind of arguments in defence of themselues and that they insisted vpon Fathers especially I could wish you durst refer the hearing of the more waighty differences betweene vs vnto the Fathers Prot. What reason haue you to feare that I dare not referre the hearing of the more weightie differences betweene vs vnto the Fathers it by Fathers you meane the Ancient Fathers and not your Father Iesuits Pa. I feare you dare not make such a reference because I read in Cardinall Baronius that Haeretici nostri temporis sic prouocant ad diuinam scripturam vt nisi tot syllabis elementis id ipsum quod profitetur Ecclesia Catholica in ea expressum inueniunt minimè sibi retinendum esse pertinacissimè reluct antur nullam vel traditionum vel sanctorum patrum interpretationum rationem pror sus habentes The Hereticks of this age he meanes such as you doe so appeale to Scripture that except they find therein euen in so many words whatsoeuer the Catholike Church be●eeueth they vtterly dislike it making no reckoning at all of Traditions or of the expositions of the Fathers Prot. Your Cardinall is a Cardinall lier We require no such dunstable plaine proofe out of Scripture for points of Faith as he lyingly affirmes Neither doe wee dispise the Fathers Wee confesse they were men indued of God with excellent gifts and brought no small light to the vnderstanding of Scriptures And much more we say saying nothing but what we thinke in their commendation Pa. Why but I haue heard for all your talke by others That you dispise all the Churches Doctors and ancient Fathers That you make no more account of the Fathers longer then you can wrest them to serue your turne then you doe of Beuis of Hampton or Adam Bel. Yea I read it written of such as you that Non alio loco reuera sanctos Patres habent quàm que loco Alcoranum Mahometi Esopi fabulas They make no more account of the holy Fathers then they doe of the Turks Alkaron or Esops Fables And that it is well knowne to such as heare your Sermons or be in place to heare you talke boldly and familiarly together among your selues you are not afraid plainly to confesse That the Fathers all were Papists And I am sure you know the man whose words these are The Protestants let not to confesse with Tobith Mathew That no man can read the Fathers and beleeue them and imbrace the New Religion Prot. I know there are of you Papists who confidently auouch That the old Fathers make against vs in all points and i that in most matters of Controuersie they are so plainly on your side that it cannot with any colour bee denied or called in question I know there are of you who write That in all the Volumes of the Fathers nothing is treated but what you professe nothing commended or condemned but what you commend or condemne and that we in our consciences know all Antiquitie to be against vs