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A13773 Positions lately held by the L. Du Perron, Bishop of Eureux, against the sufficiency and perfection of the scriptures maintaning the necessitie and authoritie of vnwritten traditions. Verie learnedly answered and confuted by D. Daniell Tillenus, Professor of Diuinitie in the Vniuersitie of Sedan. VVith a defence of the sufficiency and perfection of the holy scriptures by the same author. Faithfully translated. Tilenus, Daniel, 1563-1633.; Du Perron, Jacques Davy, 1556-1618. Discours sur l'autorité.; Tilenus, Daniel, 1563-1633. Defence of the sufficiency and perfection of the holy scripture. aut 1606 (1606) STC 24071; ESTC S101997 143,995 256

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that_o be_v very_o rife_a in_o the_o mouth_n of_o catholic_n be_v underprop_a by_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n and_o by_o the_o interpretation_n which_o have_v always_o run_v currant_n among_o catholic_n namely_o nisi_fw-la quis_fw-la renatus_fw-la fuerit_fw-la ex_fw-la aqua_fw-la &_o spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la introire_fw-la in_o regnum_fw-la dei_fw-la but_o this_o in_o the_o mouth_n of_o caluin_n &_o those_o of_o this_o sect_n be_v of_o no_o force_n for_o he_o interprete_v there_o aqua_fw-la not_o for_o the_o elementary_a water_n but_o for_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o when_o it_o be_v reply_v that_o that_o be_v a_o repetition_n of_o the_o same_o thing_n under_o two_o diverse_a word_n he_o oppose_v baptisabit_fw-la vos_fw-la spiritusancto_fw-la &_o igne_fw-la where_o he_o will_v have_v ignis_fw-la &_o spiritus_fw-la sanctus_fw-la to_o be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o thing_n which_o he_o do_v for_o to_o exclude_v the_o necessity_n of_o baptism_n but_o 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god_n through_o faith_n say_v saint_n paul_n and_o saint_n peter_n you_o be_v horn_n again_o not_o of_o a_o corruptible_a seed_n but_o of_o a_o incorruptible_a by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n that_o our_o lord_n say_v he_o that_o shall_v believe_v and_o be_v baptize_v etc._n etc._n saint_n paul_n one_o faith_n one_o baptism_n saint_n philip_n to_o the_o eunuch_n that_o ask_v he_o if_o he_o may_v be_v baptize_v if_o thou_o believe_v thou_o may_v that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v sensible_a sign_n to_o those_o to_o who_o they_o be_v sacrament_n that_o they_o be_v sacrament_n to_o those_o to_o who_o they_o be_v confer_v that_o therefore_o they_o be_v to_o be_v sensible_a in_o the_o quality_n of_o sign_n otherwise_o they_o be_v not_o sacrament_n that_o baptism_n be_v not_o sensible_a to_o little_a child_n in_o this_o quality_n neither_o can_v afterward_o become_v so_o so_o that_o they_o must_v of_o necessity_n rely_v on_o the_o faith_n of_o other_o that_o they_o have_v be_v baptize_v and_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o a_o sacrament_n unto_o they_o that_o jesus_n christ_n do_v never_o baptize_v they_o neither_o himself_n nor_o his_o apostle_n according_a to_o the_o recital_n of_o scripture_n on_o the_o contrary_a that_o the_o scripture_n seem_v to_o have_v except_v they_o express_v viros_fw-la &_o mulieres_fw-la that_o if_o the_o baptism_n of_o little_a child_n be_v not_o true_a and_o lawful_a beside_o that_o those_o that_o confer_v it_o unto_o they_o profane_v the_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o pollute_v the_o blood_n of_o the_o testament_n apply_v it_o to_o a_o matter_n uncapable_a they_o commit_v a_o other_o sacrilege_n in_o not_o reiterate_v it_o to_o they_o which_o afterward_o be_v capable_a of_o it_o and_o to_o who_o it_o be_v necessary_a if_o not_o by_o necessity_n of_o mean_n at_o least_o after_o our_o adversary_n themselves_o by_o necessity_n of_o precept_n and_o therefore_o seruet_fw-la say_fw-la that_o it_o be_v a_o impiety_n more_o than_o turkish_a and_o devilish_a and_o in_o a_o word_n if_o the_o baptism_n of_o little_a child_n be_v not_o true_a and_o lawful_a our_o adversary_n church_n who_o have_v all_o in_o their_o infancy_n be_v baptize_v have_v no_o true_a baptism_n and_o therefore_o be_v not_o the_o true_a church_n for_o saint_n paul_n say_v that_o christ_n have_v purify_v his_o church_n by_o the_o wash_n of_o water_n in_o his_o word_n and_o themselves_o say_v that_o the_o true_a church_n be_v that_o which_o have_v the_o pure_a preach_n of_o the_o word_n and_o the_o sincere_a administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o to_o conclude_v in_o a_o word_n this_o point_n either_o they_o or_o the_o anabaptist_n be_v heretic_n for_o it_o be_v a_o article_n of_o faith_n that_o there_o be_v one_o baptism_n one_o faith_n as_o say_v saint_n paul_n and_o the_o symbol_n of_o the_o church_n say_v i_o believe_v one_o baptism_n for_o remission_n of_o sin_n now_o if_o baptism_n of_o little_a child_n be_v not_o true_a baptism_n those_o which_o baptize_v they_o have_v no_o baptism_n and_o therefore_o be_v heretic_n violate_v this_o article_n of_o say_v i_o believe_v one_o baptism_n and_o if_o it_o be_v true_a baptism_n the_o anabaptist_n be_v heretic_n who_o rebaptize_v they_o for_o they_o redouble_v baptism_n against_o that_o article_n of_o faith_n i_o believe_v one_o baptism_n it_o be_v then_o necessary_a that_o one_o of_o the_o two_o side_n be_v heretical_a and_o it_o not_o be_v possible_a by_o the_o scripture_n alone_o to_o verify_v which_o of_o the_o two_o it_o be_v it_o follow_v that_o all_o heresy_n can_v be_v confute_v by_o the_o scripture_n alone_o out_o of_o which_o i_o frame_v this_o syllogism_n whatsoever_o contain_v sufficient_o the_o principle_n of_o a_o science_n shall_v also_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v all_o the_o proposition_n pertain_v to_o the_o say_a science_n and_o to_o confute_v all_o that_o repugn_v the_o same_o now_o every_o heresy_n repugn_v the_o science_n of_o divinity_n and_o religion_n and_o the_o scripture_n alone_o can_v confute_v all_o heresy_n therefore_o the_o scripture_n contain_v not_o sufficient_o all_o the_o principle_n of_o doctrine_n necessary_a to_o the_o science_n of_o divinity_n and_o religion_n and_o therefore_o we_o must_v employ_v therein_o other_o principle_n conjoint_o with_o the_o scripture_n which_o can_v have_v authority_n in_o this_o case_n if_o they_o be_v not_o reveal_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n it_o must_v therefore_o be_v grant_v that_o beside_o the_o word_n of_o god_n write_v there_o be_v yet_o another_o part_n of_o the_o same_o word_n not_o write_v among_o which_o also_o saint_n augustin_n against_o this_o heresy_n concern_v the_o baptism_n of_o little_a child_n say_v consuetudo_fw-la matris_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la in_o baptisandis_fw-la paruulis_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la spernenda_fw-la neque_fw-la omnino_fw-la recipienda_fw-la nisi_fw-la apostolica_fw-la esset_fw-la traditio_fw-la d._n tillenus_n his_o answer_n thus_o be_v easy_o confute_v all_o the_o other_o reason_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n that_o he_o bring_v forth_o after_o we_o for_o they_o be_v but_o repetition_n of_o the_o solution_n he_o give_v to_o we_o that_o baptism_n be_v a_o seal_n of_o faith_n that_o it_o be_v call_v the_o wash_n of_o regeneration_n that_o regeneration_n be_v make_v by_o faith_n and_o by_o the_o incorruptible_a seed_n of_o god_n word_n that_o saint_n philip_n say_v to_o the_o eunuch_n if_o thou_o believe_v thou_o may_v be_v save_v etc._n etc._n for_o it_o have_v be_v show_v that_o the_o child_n which_o enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v regenerate_v that_o this_o regeneration_n be_v do_v otherwise_o in_o they_o that_o in_o such_o as_o be_v of_o year_n of_o knowledge_n that_o the_o sentence_n of_o saint_n peter_n and_o s._n philip_n and_o other_o like_a be_v necessary_o understand_v of_o they_o that_o be_v capable_a of_o the_o hear_n of_o the_o word_n as_o be_v all_o those_o with_o who_o the_o apostle_n have_v to_o do_v when_o they_o begin_v to_o gather_v the_o christian_a church_n to_o apply_v to_o child_n that_o which_o be_v speak_v only_o to_o such_o as_o be_v of_o year_n the_o consequence_n be_v as_o foolish_a as_o if_o a_o man_n shall_v deprive_v child_n of_o corporal_a nourishment_n because_o the_o scripture_n say_v 3.10_o 〈◊〉_d 3.10_o he_o that_o do_v not_o work_n shall_v not_o eat_v which_o be_v necessary_o mean_v of_o such_o as_o be_v of_o year_n to_o work_v how_o will_v his_o syllogism_n now_o stand_v which_o he_o frame_v thus_o whatsoever_o contain_v sufficient_o the_o principle_n of_o a_o science_n shall_v prove_v all_o the_o proposition_n belong_v to_o the_o say_a science_n and_o to_o confute_v all_o that_o repugn_v the_o same_o but_o every_o heresy_n repugn_v the_o science_n of_o divinity_n and_o the_o scripture_n alone_o can_v not_o confute_v all_o heresy_n therefore_o it_o contain_v not_o sufficient_o all_o the_o principle_n necessary_a etc._n etc._n the_o assumption_n of_o this_o syllogism_n be_v already_o above_o confute_v by_o the_o testimony_n even_o of_o those_o very_a same_n from_o who_o he_o pretend_v that_o the_o most_o part_n yea_o all_o the_o principle_n not_o contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n must_v be_v take_v i_o can_v here_o add_v a_o great_a number_n of_o other_o proof_n and_o testimony_n but_o that_o i_o shun_v prolixity_n i_o will_v therefore_o only_o oppose_v two_o other_o syllogism_n i._o in_o the_o divine_a wisdom_n there_o be_v perfect_a knowledge_n of_o divinity_n 19.7.8_o 〈◊〉_d 19.7.8_o the_o holy_a holy_a scripture_n give_v this_o wisdom_n therefore_o it_o give_v the_o perfect_a knowledge_n of_o divinity_n ii_o the_o principle_n of_o a_o science_n be_v not_o contrary_a one_o unto_o another_o but_o the_o most_o part_n of_o the_o unwritten_a principle_n of_o the_o romish_a divinity_n repugn_v and_o destroy_v those_o that_o be_v write_v in_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n therefore_o they_o can_v not_o be_v true_a principle_n of_o true_a divinity_n the_o 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chance_n some_o water_n be_v cast_v see_v they_o want_v the_o chief_a and_o principal_a condition_n which_o make_v a_o man_n be_v a_o matter_n and_o subject_v capable_a of_o baptism_n namely_o fayth_n that_o they_o that_o be_v baptise_a as_o say_v saint_n paul_n have_v put_v on_o christ_n that_o christ_n can_v be_v put_v on_o out_o of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v call_v the_o fullnes_n of_o christ_n &_o that_o therefore_o baptism_n can_v be_v among_o heretic_n that_o every_o one_o of_o you_o say_v saint_n peter_n be_v baptise_a for_o remission_n of_o sin_n and_o the_o creed_n of_o constantinople_n i_o believe_v one_o baptism_n for_o remission_n of_o sin_n now_o among_o the_o heretic_n there_o be_v no_o remission_n of_o sin_n for_o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n and_o by_o consequent_a no_o baptism_n that_o when_o it_o be_v tell_v john_n baptist_n that_o christ_n baptise_a he_o answer_v none_o can_v do_v it_o unless_o it_o be_v give_v he_o from_o heaven_n that_o no_o 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ulla_fw-la ambiguitate_fw-la s._n scriptura_fw-la demonstrat_fw-la and_o in_o another_o place_n ●on_v bap._n ●on_v sed_fw-la illa_fw-la consuetudo_fw-la quam_fw-la etiam_fw-la tunc_fw-la hominem_fw-la sursum_fw-la versum_fw-la respicientes_fw-la non_fw-la videbant_fw-la â_fw-la posterioribus_fw-la restitutam_fw-la recte_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n tradita_fw-la creditur_fw-la et_fw-la talia_fw-la multa_fw-la sunt_fw-la quae_fw-la longum_fw-la esset_fw-la repetere_fw-la now_o saint_n augustine_n declare_v that_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o donatist_n be_v heretical_a and_o the_o whole_a church_n with_o he_o hold_v the_o donatist_n for_o heretic_n and_o our_o adversary_n themselves_o as_o also_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v that_o either_o the_o catholic_n or_o the_o donatist_n be_v heretic_n for_o if_o baptism_n administer_v by_o heretic_n be_v not_o true_a baptism_n the_o catholic_n which_o receive_v they_o without_o baptise_v they_o do_v violate_v this_o article_n one_o faith_n one_o 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the_o most_o part_n take_v out_o of_o origen_n that_o be_v out_o of_o the_o original_n of_o the_o most_o part_n of_o his_o error_n move_v i_o to_o put_v this_o opinion_n of_o saint_n hilary_n in_o the_o rank_n of_o other_o whole_o erroneous_a which_o be_v find_v in_o his_o writing_n as_o when_o he_o attribute_v to_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n a_o body_n uncapable_a of_o weariness_n of_o hunger_n of_o thirst_n &_o of_o all_o dolour_n condemn_v of_o error_n ●8_o lib._n 10._o de_fw-fr trin._n in_o psal_n ●8_o those_o which_o by_o his_o suffering_n conclude_v the_o dolour_n when_o he_o speak_v in_o such_o sort_n of_o the_o incarnation_n of_o christ_n as_o if_o the_o holy_a virgin_n have_v but_o bear_v &_o bring_v he_o forth_o without_o contribute_v any_o thing_n of_o her_o substance_n to_o his_o flesh_n trin._n lib._n 8._o de_fw-fr trin._n when_o he_o say_v that_o we_o be_v one_o with_o the_o father_n by_o nature_n and_o not_o only_o by_o similitude_n or_o adoption_n when_o he_o think_v 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