Selected quad for the lemma: faith_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
faith_n	church_n	scripture_n	tradition_n	15,184	5	9.5685	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A12552	The character of the beast, or, The false constitution of the church discovered in certayne passages betwixt Mr. R. Clifton & Iohn Smyth, concerning true Christian baptisme of new creatures, or new borne babes in Christ, &nd false baptisme of infants borne after the flesh : referred to two propositions, 1. That infants are not to bee baptized, 2. That antichristians converted are to bee admitted into the true church by baptisme.	Smyth, John, d. 1612.	1609 (1609)	STC 22875; ESTC S991	85,221	80

all_o the_o household_n of_o lydia_n &_o the_o jailer_n be_v baptize_v that_o therefore_o infant_n be_v baptize_v you_o shall_v 〈◊〉_d what_o exception_n i_o take_v first_o i_o say_v though_o infant_n be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o family_n when_o the_o family_n have_v infant_n in_o it_o yet_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o whersoever_o there_o be_v mention_v make_v of_o a_o family_n that_o therefore_o that_o family_n have_v infant_n in_o it_o except_o therefore_o it_o be_v prove_v that_o the_o family_n of_o lyd●_n &_o the_o family_n of_o the_o jailer_n have_v infant_n in_o it_o this_o allegation_n be_v nothing_o second_o by_o this_o reason_n you_o may_v prove_v that_o lydias_n husband_n &_o the_o gaylors_n wife_n &_o their_o child_n of_o 40_o year_n old_a &_o their_o servant_n of_o 60._o year_n old_a be_v baptize_v for_o all_o these_o be_v part_n of_o a_o family_n yet_o i_o suppose_v you_o will_v not_o say_v they_o be_v all_o of_o they_o baptize_v except_o you_o can_v prove_v that_o lydia_n have_v a_o husband_n or_o the_o jailer_n have_v a_o wife_n or_o child_n of_o 40._o &_o servant_n of_o 60._o year_n old_a your_o argument_n therefore_o be_v weak_a presuppose_v the_o thing_n that_o be_v in_o question_n three_o if_o it_o be_v yield_v that_o there_o be_v infant_n in_o lydias_n family_n &_o in_o the_o gaylor_n do_v it_o therefore_o follow_v that_o they_o be_v baptize_v nothing_o less_o &_o that_o i_o will_v declare_v thus_o 1._o you_o say_v that_o to_o the_o baptise_v of_o the_o gaylors_n wife_n &_o child_n of_o year_n of_o discretion_n there_o be_v necessary_o require_v faith_n &_o repentance_n or_o else_o they_o be_v not_o baptize_v so_o say_v i_o that_o because_o infant_n can_v believe_v &_o repent_v though_o they_o be_v in_o the_o family_n yet_o shall_v they_o not_o be_v baptize_v for_o there_o be_v one_o condition_n require_v for_o all_o person_n to_o be_v baptize_v 2._o i_o say_v that_o although_o it_o be_v say_v that_o all_o that_o perteyn_v to_o the_o jailer_n be_v baptize_v yet_o it_o be_v also_o say_v we_o 32._o that_o the_o word_n be_v preach_v to_o all_o that_o be_v in_o his_o house_n &_o we_o 34._o that_o all_o his_o howsehold_n believe_v &_o how_o come_v their_o faith_n but_o by_o the_o word_n preach_v we_o 32._o see_v therefore_o that_o all_o that_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o gaylor_n how_o be_v believe_v by_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n infant_n that_o can_v not_o believe_v by_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n be_v not_o baptize_v if_o he_o have_v any_o beside_o it_o be_v a_o marvelous_a distemper_a time_n at_o midnight_n to_o wake_v child_n &_o to_o bring_v they_o before_o the_o apostle_n for_o baptism_n 3._o i_o say_v that_o for_o lydias_n family_n it_o be_v not_o say_v that_o all_o her_o howsehold_n be_v baptize_v or_o if_o it_o have_v be_v so_o say_v yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o every_o particular_a person_n off_o her_o family_n be_v baptize_v for_o mat._n 3_o 5.6_o it_o be_v say_v that_o all_o judea_n go_v out_o to_o john_n &_o be_v baptize_v of_o he_o confess_v their_o sin_n yet_o hence_o it_o can_v be_v conclude_v that_o all_o &_o every_o one_o that_o go_v out_o be_v baptize_v or_o that_o all_o &_o every_o one_o go_v out_o to_o be_v baptize_v no_o more_o can_v it_o be_v prove_v that_o because_o it_o be_v say_v that_o lydias_n family_n be_v baptize_v that_o therefore_o all_o &_o every_o particular_a person_n be_v baptize_v but_o as_o mat._n 3.6_o only_o they_o that_o confess_v their_o sin_n &_o as_o act._n 16_o 32-34_a only_o they_o that_o believe_v by_o the_o word_n preach_v be_v baptize_v so_o be_v it_o with_o they_o of_o lydias_n family_n that_o be_v baptize_v for_o the_o apostle_n i_o doubt_v not_o keep_v one_o order_n &_o require_v the_o same_o condition_n in_o all_o that_o they_o baptize_v so_o that_o by_o that_o which_o have_v be_v say_v the_o vanity_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v manifest_v &_o it_o be_v prove_v plain_o that_o none_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o gaylors_n family_n but_o only_o they_o that_o beleve_v after_o the_o word_n preach_v &_o so_o infant_n special_o be_v exempt_v if_o he_o have_v any_o in_o his_o family_n which_o yet_o be_v not_o manifest_v hence_o therefore_o i_o reason_v thus_o against_o baptise_v infant_n 1._o the_o apostle_n practice_n be_v our_o instruction_n but_o the_o apostle_n in_o baptise_v howsehold_n first_o preach_v the_o word_n to_o all_o that_o be_v in_o the_o family_n act._n 16.32_o &_o then_o the_o believe_a be_v baptize_v we_o 34.33_o ergo_fw-la they_o only_o that_o by_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n be_v convert_v &_o believe_v be_v baptize_v again_o i_o reason_v thus_o 2._o that_o which_o the_o apostle_n practise_v in_o one_o family_n they_o practise_v in_o all_o family_n that_o they_o baptize_v but_o in_o the_o gaylors_n family_n according_a to_o christ_n commission_n mat._n 28.19_o they_o first_o make_v they_o disciple_n by_o preach_v the_o word_n act._n 16_o 32-34_a ergo_fw-la so_o they_o practise_v in_o all_o family_n &_o therefore_o in_o the_o family_n of_o lydia_n of_o crispus_n act._n 18.8_o of_o the_o ruler_n john_n 4.43_o &_o so_o no_o infant_n be_v baptize_v and_o this_o shall_v suffice_v for_o answer_v to_o your_o argument_n mr._n rich._n mr._n hereunto_o i_o will_v adjoyne_v some_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n not_o to_o prove_v that_o child_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v which_o be_v to_o be_v do_v &_o be_v by_o the_o scripture_n already_o prove_v but_o to_o show_v the_o practice_n hereof_o in_o ancient_a church_n augustine_n as_o i_o find_v allege_v write_v to_o jerome_n epist_n 28._o chap._n 5._o say_v cyprian_n not_o make_v any_o new_a decree_n but_o firm_o observe_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n judge_v with_o his_o fellow_n bishop_n that_o as_o soon_o as_o one_o be_v bear_v he_o may_v lawful_o be_v baptize_v see_v cyprian_n epist_n to_o fidus._n and_o write_v against_o the_o donatist_n lib._n 4._o chap._n 23._o &_o 24._o say_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o deryve_v from_o the_o authority_n of_o man_n neither_o of_o counsel_n but_o from_o the_o tradition_n or_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n civil_a upon_o lev_n chap._n 8._o approve_v the_o baptism_n off_o infant_n &_o condemn_v the_o iteration_n of_o baptism_n origine_fw-la upon_o the_o roman_a say_v that_o the_o church_n receive_v baptism_n of_o infant_n from_o the_o apostle_n nazianzenus_n in_o orat._n in_o s._n lavacrum_fw-la 3._o say_v that_o baptism_n agree_v to_o every_o age_n to_o every_o condition_n of_o life_n to_o all_o man_n if_o thou_o have_v a_o infant_n that_o be_v sanctify_v from_o his_o infancy_n yea_o from_o the_o finger_n end_v it_o be_v consecrate_v after_o he_o faith_n some_o man_n will_v say_v what_o say_v thou_o of_o infant_n which_o neither_o know_v what_o grace_n be_v nor_o pain_n what_o shall_v we_o baptize_v those_o &_o he_o answer_v yea_o very_o amb_n lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr abrah_n chap._n 11._o speak_v of_o baptism_n faith_n nether_a old_a man_n nor_o prosolite_n nor_o infant_n be_v to_o be_v except_v because_o every_o age_n be_v guilty_a of_o sin_n &_o therefore_o stand_v need_n of_o the_o sacrament_n these_o &_o many_o other_o of_o the_o father_n do_v bear_v witness_n according_a to_o the_o scripture_n of_o the_o lawfullnes_n of_o the_o baptise_v of_o insent_n john_n smyth_n and_o here_o for_o a_o conclusion_n you_o produce_v the_o father_n i_o say_v that_o the_o produce_v of_o father_n who_o all_o of_o they_o hold_v plenty_n of_o antichristian_a heresy_n shall_v avayle_n you_o nothing_o in_o your_o cause_n &_o you_o that_o deny_v the_o testimony_n of_o father_n contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n how_o can_v you_o with_o any_o colour_n of_o equity_n produce_v father_n against_o we_o in_o a_o case_n contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n be_v it_o not_o to_o set_v darkness_n against_o light_n do_v not_o you_o know_v that_o all_o the_o father_n even_o every_o one_o of_o they_o bring_v his_o stone_n to_o the_o build_n of_o the_o temple_n 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the_o father_n to_o prove_v any_o thing_n well_o then_o you_o confess_v they_o prove_v nothing_o remember_v that_o &_o let_v all_o man_n take_v notice_n that_o you_o produce_v testimony_n that_o you_o say_v prove_v nothing_o but_o why_o do_v you_o produce_v testimony_n of_o the_o father_n forsooth_o to_o show_v the_o practice_n of_o ancient_a church_n but_o all_o those_o church_n be_v antichristian_a by_o your_o own_o confession_n &_o what_o do_v antiquity_n antichristian_a or_o universality_n antichristian_a help_n you_o against_o the_o truth_n therefore_o i_o say_v the_o truth_n need_v not_o the_o testimony_n of_o antichrist_n &_o old_a universal_a antichristian_a error_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o the_o truth_n i_o have_v show_v you_o that_o from_o the_o beginning_n it_o be_v not_o thus_o go_v baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v a_o novelty_n but_o let_v we_o show_v you_o some_o footstep_n of_o the_o bring_n in_o of_o baptise_v infant_n &_o that_o out_o of_o the_o father_n henricus_fw-la pantaleon_n chronolog_n fol._n 16._o say_v victor_n apher_n in_o the_o year_n 193._o ordain_v that_o at_o easter_n baptism_n shall_v be_v indifferent_o administer_v to_o all_o hence_o then_o it_o follow_v that_o before_o his_o time_n only_o such_o as_o be_v catechise_v in_o the_o faith_n be_v baptize_v for_o he_o will_v not_o decree_v that_o heathen_a shall_v be_v baptize_v eusebius_n eccles_n histor_n lib._n 7_o chap._n 8._o say_v that_o novatus_n reject_v the_o holy_a baptism_n &_o overthrow_v the_o faith_n &_o confession_n which_o be_v accustom_v before_o baptism_n whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o faith_n &_o confession_n be_v require_v before_o baptism_n and_o therefore_o the_o rudiment_n thereof_o still_o remain_v that_o in_o baptise_v of_o infant_n a_o confession_n of_o sin_n and_o faith_n be_v require_v of_o the_o surety_n or_o parent_n the_o same_o euseb_n lib._n 10._o chap._n 15._o report_v the_o story_n of_o athanasius_n baptise_v child_n in_o sport_n which_o baptism_n be_v approve_v though_o do_v in_o sport_n by_o alexander_n bb_n of_o alexandria_n after_o that_o he_o by_o examination_n have_v find_v that_o the_o child_n have_v question_v &_o answer_v according_a to_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o catechumeni_fw-la in_o baptism_n whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o then_o only_a person_n by_o confession_n of_o their_o faith_n &_o sin_n be_v admit_v to_o baptism_n in_o alexandria_n hosius_n petricoviensi_fw-la confess_v de_fw-fr fide_fw-la chap._n 27._o say_v that_o these_o two_o be_v aposticall_a tradition_n which_o the_o scripture_n teach_v not_o viz_n that_o there_o be_v person_n &_o one_o god_n &_o that_o dionysius_n &_o origen_n do_v testify_v baptism_n of_o infant_n to_o be_v a_o apostical_a tradition_n now_o you_o know_v that_o their_o aposticall_a tradition_n be_v antichristian_a invention_n polydor._fw-la virg._n lib._n 4._o chap._n 4_o de_fw-la inventoribus_fw-la rerum_fw-la say_v thus_o it_o be_v in_o use_n with_o the_o ancient_n that_o person_n of_o year_n sere_a in_o a_o manner_n shall_v be_v baptize_v clad_v with_o white_a garment_n lactantius_n candidus_n egredit●●_n nitidis_fw-la exercitus_fw-la undis_fw-la atque_fw-la vetus_fw-la vitium_fw-la purgat_fw-la in_o amne_fw-la novo_fw-la and_o this_o be_v perform_v at_o easter_n &_o whitsuntide_n except_v in_o necessity_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n till_o the_o feast_n of_o easter_n &_o whitsontyde_n come_v they_o be_v catechise_v this_o testimony_n be_v of_o good_a instruction_n ludovicus_n vives_z write_v upon_o the_o first_o book_n of_o august_n de_fw-fr civitate_fw-la dei_fw-la chap._n 27._o say_v that_o in_o ancient_a time_n no_o man_n be_v baptize_v but_o person_n of_o year_n who_o can_v understand_v what_o the_o mystical_a water_n signify_v &_o require_v baptism_n oft_o than_o once_o &_o therefore_o now_o the_o infant_n to_o be_v baptize_v be_v demand_v three_o time_n if_o he_o will_v be_v baptize_v for_o who_o the_o suertye_n answer_v yea_o erasmus_fw-la 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be_v baptize_v marc._n 1.4.5_o act._n 8.37_o answer_n first_o this_o reason_n be_v bring_v into_o form_n will_v be_v wray_v the_o weakness_n of_o it_o for_o suppose_v that_o shall_v be_v grant_v that_o there_o be_v nether_a a_o special_a commandment_n or_o example_n in_o the_o practice_n of_o john_n or_o ch●●_n disciple_n for_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n yet_o may_v it_o notwithstanding_o be_v lawful_a to_o baptize_v they_o namely_o if_o by_o some_o consequence_n it_o may_v be_v gather_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n and_o this_o may_v be_v do_v by_o good_a warrant_n from_o the_o example_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n mat._n 22.31.32_o where_o reason_v against_o the_o saducee_n concern_v the_o resurrection_n prove_v it_o by_o a_o argument_n necessary_o draw_v from_o exo._n 3●6_n where_o no_o such_o thing_n be_v express_o mention_v and_o thus_o he_o teach_v usual_o &_o refute_v his_o adversary_n as_o the_o history_n of_o the_o gospel_n witness_v after_o the_o same_o manner_n do_v 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three_o person_n in_o on●_n godhead_n that_o the_o son_n be_v homousios_n that_o be_v of_o the_o same_o substance_n with_o the_o father_n now_o such_o express_a word_n can_v be_v show_v in_o the_o scripture_n &_o many_o such_o like_a 2._o second_o also_o if_o this_o argument_n be_v sufficient_a to_o bar_v child_n from_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n then_o be_v it_o as_o sufficient_a to_o keep_v back_o woman_n from_o the_o lord_n supper_n for_o there_o be_v no_o special_a precept_n nor_o yet_o example_n that_o woman_n shall_v partake_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o the_o lawfullnes_n there_o of_o be_v only_o prove_v by_o consequence_n because_o they_o be_v within_o the_o covenant_n &_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n thus_o the_o weakness_n of_o this_o reason_n be_v manifest_v i_o will_v three_o answer_v unto_o it_o 3._o three_o that_o there_o be_v both_o precept_n by_o christ_n &_o example_n by_o his_o disciple_n for_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n as_o 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publish_v answer_n to_o their_o reason_n we_o do_v challendg_v all_o the_o separation_n in_o special_a to_o the_o combat_n be_v it_o know_v therefore_o to_o all_o the_o separation_n that_o we_o account_v they_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o constitution_n to_o be_v as_o very_o a_o h●●●ot_n as_o either_o her_o mother_n england_n or_o her_o grandmother_n rome_n be_v out_o of_o who_o loin_n she_o come_v &_o although_o once_o in_o our_o ignorance_n we_o have_v acknowledge_v she_o a_o true_a chu_n yet_o now_o be_v better_o inform_v we_o revoke_v that_o our_o erroneous_a judgement_n &_o protest_v against_o she_o aswell_o for_o her_o false_a constitution_n as_o for_o her_o false_a ministry_n worship_n &_o government_n the_o true_a constitution_n of_o the_o chu_n be_v of_o a_o new_a creature_n baptize_v into_o the_o father_n the_o son_n &_o the_o holy_a ghost_n the_o false_a constitution_n be_v of_o infant_n baptize_v we_o profess_v therefore_o that_o all_o those_o church_n that_o baptise_v 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false_a ground_n make_v our_o separation_n from_o she_o for_o although_o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o we_o separate_a from_o england_n yet_o no_o man_n can_v separate_a from_o england_n as_o from_o a_o false_a chu_n except_o he_o also_o do_v separate_a from_o the_o baptism_n of_o england_n which_o give_v england_n her_o constitution_n &_o whosoever_o do_v retain_v the_o baptism_n of_o england_n do_v with_o all_o retain_v the_o constitution_n of_o england_n &_o can_v without_o sin_n call_v england_n a_o harlot_n as_o we_o have_v do_v &_o this_o we_o desire_v may_v be_v well_o mind_v of_o all_o that_o separate_a from_o england_n for_o if_o they_o retain_v the_o baptism_n of_o england_n viz_n the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n as_o true_a baptism_n they_o can_v separate_a from_o england_n as_o from_o a_o false_a chu_n though_o they_o may_v separate_a for_o corruption_n &_o whosoever_o do_v separate_a from_o england_n as_o from_o a_o false_a church_n must_v needs_o separate_a from_o the_o baptism_n of_o england_n as_o from_o false_a baptism_n for_o the_o baptism_n of_o england_n can_v be_v true_a &_o to_o be_v retain_v &_o the_o chu_n of_o england_n false_a &_o to_o the_o reject_a neither_o can_v the_o chu_n of_o england_n possible_o be_v false_a except_o the_o baptism_n be_v false_a unless_o a_o true_a constitution_n can_v be_v in_o a_o false_a chu_n which_o be_v as_o impossible_a as_o for_o light_a to_o have_v fellowship_n with_o darkness_n it_o be_v impossible_a that_o contraries_n or_o contradiction_n shall_v be_v both_o true_a &_o so_o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o a_o false_a chur._n shall_v have_v a_o true_a constitution_n or_o a_o true_a baptism_n to_o say_v thus_o england_n have_v a_o false_a constitution_n england_n have_v a_o true_a baptism_n be_v as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v thus_o england_n have_v a_o true_a constitution_n england_n have_v a_o true_a constitution_n which_o be_v

prove_v mat._n 19.13.14_o to_o this_o argument_n of_o you_o i_o make_v answer_v diverse_o first_o you_o have_v not_o prove_v that_o the_o visible_a chur._n &_o all_o the_o ordinance_n thereof_o perteyne_a to_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a for_o the_o infant_n of_o the_o jew_n that_o be_v present_v to_o chr._n be_v not_o infant_n of_o believer_n for_o aught_o that_o i_o see_v neither_o can_v it_o be_v prove_v that_o they_o be_v infant_n of_o the_o jew_n but_o their_o be_v some_o likelihood_n to_o the_o contrary_a see_v the_o disciple_n repel_v they_o that_o bring_v they_o it_o may_v be_v they_o be_v the_o child_n of_o some_o of_o the_o roman_a soldier_n or_o some_o cananitish_a person_n but_o suppose_v they_o be_v child_n of_o the_o jew_n how_o be_v it_o prove_v that_o their_o parent_n be_v believer_n see_v that_o the_o people_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n stifnecked_a &_o uncircumcised_a in_o hart_n &_o if_o they_o have_v beme_fw-mi the_o child_n of_o beleve_a jew_n that_o be_v baptize_v by_o joh._n or_o chr._n disciple_n by_o your_o doctrine_n the_o infant_n be_v already_o baptize_v what_o need_n be_v there_o to_o bring_v they_o to_o chr._n except_o it_o be_v for_o popish_a confirmation_n &_o so_o hence_o you_o can_v conclude_v baptism_n i_o avouch_v constant_o against_o you_o that_o either_o they_o be_v not_o the_o child_n of_o jew_n or_o that_o they_o be_v not_o the_o infant_n of_o beleve_a jew_n or_o if_o their_o parents_n beleve_v yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o therefore_o these_o infant_n be_v of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n or_o to_o be_v baptize_v for_o chr●_n do_v not_o say_v of_o these_o but_z of_o such_o be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n &_o so_o he_o do_v expound_v himself_o mat._n 18_o 3-6_a beside_o how_o can_v you_o prove_v that_o by_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n chr._n understand_v the_o visible_a church_n of_o the_o new_a test_n or_o how_o can_v you_o prove_v that_o chr._n bless_v none_o but_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a 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be_v true_a 2._o chron._n 30.11.18.21_o ergo_fw-la the_o second_o i_o answer_v that_o the_o apostasy_n of_o antichrist_n be_v deep_a than_o the_o apostasy_n of_o israel_n for_o first_o antichristian_n be_v not_o call_v israelite_n but_o babylonian_n egyptian_n sodomite_n gentile_n in_o the_o revelation_n whereby_o the_o holy_a spirit_n of_o wisdom_n give_v we_o to_o conceive_v that_o he_o do_v account_v the_o apostasy_n of_o antichrist_n equal_a to_o paganism_n itself_o yea_o to_o the_o very_o worst_a kind_n of_o paganism_n second_o i_o declare_v plain_o the_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o apostasy_n of_o antichrist_n &_o israel_n in_o this_o that_o israel_n apostasy_n do_v not_o destroy_v the_o true_a constitution_n of_o the_o chur_n but_o antichrist_n apostasy_n do_v raze_v the_o true_a apostolic_a constitution_n for_o the_o true_a constitution_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v of_o carnal_a israelite_n or_o proselyte_n circumcise_v gen._n ●7_n 10-14_a exod._n 12.48.49_o &_o so_o long_o as_o they_o retain_v circumcision_n in_o the_o land_n of_o canaan_n they_o retain_v a_o true_a constitution_n though_o their_o apostasy_n be_v never_o so_o great_a in_o the_o worship_n ministry_n &_o government_n as_o be_v to_o be_v see_v host_n 4.6.8.12_o therefore_o abijah_n do_v not_o chardg_v the_o israelite_n with_o a_o false_a constitution_n but_o declare_v unto_o they_o their_o false_a government_n 2_o chron._n 13._o we_o 8._o their_o false_a ministry_n we_o 9_o their_o false_a worship_n we_o 8._o &_o declare_v the_o true_a government_n ministry_n &_o worship_n of_o judah_n but_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o antichrist_n have_v not_o only_o set_v up_o a_o false_a government_n of_o prelacy_n a_o false_a ministry_n of_o preisthood_n &_o a_o false_a worship_n of_o read_v but_o also_o have_v set_v up_o a_o false_a constitution_n of_o the_o church_n for_o whereas_o the_o true_a apostolic_a constitution_n be_v of_o baptize_v disciple_n that_o confess_v their_o faith_n &_o then_o sin_n he_o have_v foist_v in_o a_o false_a matter_n of_o the_o church_n viz_n infant_n &_o person_n unbaptise_v &_o so_o a_o false_a form_n for_o infant_n be_v no_o more_o capable_a of_o baptism_n than_o be_v a_o fool_n o●●●d_v man_n or_o pagan_a neither_o can_v they_o express_v any_o more_o repentance_n o●_n faith_n then_o such_o person_n do_v &_o see_v the_o true_a form_n of_o the_o church_n be_v a_o covenant_n betwixt_o god_n &_o the_o faithful_a make_v in_o baptism_n in_o which_o christ_n be_v visible_o put_v on_o &_o that_o infant_n can_v receive_v the_o covenant_n which_o be_v only_o do_v by_o actual_a visible_a faith_n nor_o can_v seal_v back_o unto_o the_o lord_n that_o he_o be_v true_a joh._n 3.33_o as_o god_n seal_v unto_o they_o his_o truth_n by_o his_o spirit_n eph._n 1.13_o for_o the_o covenant_n be_v this_o i_o will_v be_v their_o god_n 2._o cor._n 6.16_o &_o they_o shall_v be_v all_o teach_v of_o god_n joh._n 6.45_o &_o shall_v all_o know_v god_n from_o the_o least_o unto_o the_o great_a heb._n 8.11_o &_o the_o covenant_n be_v this_o i_o will_v be_v their_o father_n 2._o cor._n 6_o 18._o &_o we_o shall_v be_v his_o son_n call_v he_o father_n by_o the_o spirit_n whereby_o we_o be_v seal_v gal._n 4.6_o hence_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o church_n of_o antichrist_n be_v constitute_v of_o a_o false_a matter_n viz_n infant_n uncapable_a of_o baptism_n &_o of_o a_o false_a son_n viz_n infant_n unable_a to_o enter_v into_o the_o new_a testament_n by_o seal_v back_o the_o covenant_n unto_o the_o lord_n &_o consent_v unto_o the_o contract_n therefore_o they_o can_v have_v no_o title_n to_o christ_n or_o any_o of_o his_o ordinance_n but_o be_v as_o pagan_n or_o gentile_n in_o the_o lord_n account_n circumcision_n therefore_o in_o the_o israelite_n apostasy_n be_v true_a circumcision_n because_o it_o be_v perform_v upon_o carnal_a israelite_n or_o proselyte_n the_o eigth_n day_n but_o baptism_n in_o popery_n be_v false_a baptism_n &_o so_o in_o the_o lord_n account_v no_o better_o then_o pagan_a wash_n be_v administer_v upon_o infant_n a_o subject_n that_o god_n never_o appoint_v to_o baptism_n a_o subject_n that_o be_v as_o uncapable_a of_o baptism_n as_o a_o infidel_n a_o mad_a man_n a_o natural_a fo●le_n or_o any_o other_o subject_n that_o can_v confess_v their_o faith_n or_o sin_n or_o be_v make_v disciple_n by_o destruction_n three_o i_o declare_v that_o israel_n be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o god_n or_o a_o member_n or_o part_n of_o the_o true_a church_n of_o god_n though_o infinite_o corrupt_v aswell_o as_o judah_n in_o the_o day_n of_o her_o apostasy_n see_v ezechiel_n 3_o toto_fw-la &_o ezech._n 16._o toto_fw-la &_o ezech._n 20_o 28-31_a &_o therefore_o if_o judah_n retain_v true_a circumcision_n in_o her_o apostasy_n when_o the_o l._n call_v her_o a_o harlot_n ezech._n 16.35_o &_o the_o apostasy_n of_o judah_n be_v worse_o in_o the_o l._n account_v then_o that_o of_o israel_n ezech._n 16_o 47-53_a sure_o the_o circumcision_n of_o israel_n be_v also_o true_a &_o israel_n a_o true_a part_n of_o the_o church_n as_o well_o as_o indah_n &_o for_o the_o bill_n of_o divorce_n which_o some_o plead_v be_v give_v to_o israel_n by_o hosea_n hos_fw-la 2.2_o i_o say_v that_o be_v after_o the_o passover_n of_o hezechiah_n which_o be_v in_o the_o first_o year_n of_o his_o reign_n 2._o chron._n 29.3.17_o &_o 30.2_o &_o the_o bill_n of_o divorce_n be_v give_v the_o six_o year_n of_o his_o reign_n 2._o king_n 17.23_o compare_v with_o 2._o king_n 18.10_o yet_o nevertheless_o hosea_n call_v israel_n the_o lord_n people_n after_o he_o have_v prophesy_v of_o the_o bill_n of_o divorce_n to_o be_v give_v hos_fw-la 4.6.8.12_o &_o when_o the_o bill_n of_o divorce_n be_v give_v divers_a of_o israel_n i_o doubt_v not_o keep_v themselves_o pure_a from_o samaritanism_n &_o

retain_v circumcision_n &_o come_v up_o yearly_a to_o jerusalem_n even_o till_o the_o day_n of_o josiah_n 2._o chron._n 35.18_o compare_v with_o 2._o chron._n 34_o 6.7.3-33_a so_o that_o hereby_o it_o be_v most_o manifest_a that_o no_o manner_n of_o sin_n make_v the_o church_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n a_o false_a church_n so_o long_o as_o they_o retain_v circumcision_n in_o the_o land_n of_o canaan_n yea_o if_o they_o retain_v circumcision_n though_o in_o babylon_n whereupon_o i_o be_o persuade_v that_o if_o the_o papucy_a or_o england_n or_o the_o greek_a church_n do_v only_o baptise_v man_n confess_v their_o faith_n &_o their_o sin_n into_o chr_n the_o son_n of_o god_n or_o into_o the_o trinity_n though_o they_o retain_v their_o false_a ministry_n worship_n &_o government_n &_o other_o their_o abomination_n yet_o the_o baptism_n be_v true_a &_o not_o to_o be_v repeat_v as_o their_o circumcision_n be_v good_a notwithstanding_o all_o their_o abomination_n &_o horrible_a idolatrye_n &_o fearful_a apostasy_n in_o israel_n mr._n rich._n clifton_n babylon_n in_o chaldea_n which_o be_v a_o type_n of_o spiritual_n babylon_n apoc._n 18.2_o though_o they_o do_v abuse_v &_o profan_n the_o vessel_n of_o the_o l._n dan._n 5.3_o yet_o do_v not_o that_o make_v a_o nullity_n of_o they_o that_o they_o cease_v any_o more_o to_o be_v the_o vessel_n of_o the_o house_n of_o the_o lor._n but_o be_v bring_v up_o with_o they_o of_o the_o captivity_n that_o come_v up_o from_o babel_n to_o jerusalem_n ezra_n 1.11_o even_o so_o although_o spiritual_a babylon_n have_v profane_v the_o holy_a thing_n of_o god_n as_o baptism_n &_o the_o rest_n yet_o remain_v they_o still_o god_n ordinance_n to_o all_o they_o that_o come_v out_o of_o she_o apoc._n 18.4_o &_o return_v to_o the_o celestial_a jerusalem_n &_o as_o these_o vessel_n of_o the_o house_n of_o the_o l._n need_v not_o to_o be_v new_o cast_v because_o of_o babel_n pollute_v they_o no_o more_o be_v baptism_n to_o be_v reiterated_a to_o the_o people_n of_o god_n because_o it_o pass_v through_o the_o pollute_a hand_n of_o the_o papist_n if_o it_o be_v object_v that_o they_o that_o administer_v baptism_n in_o babylon_n be_v idolater_n &_o have_v no_o call_n thereto_o i_o answer_v that_o they_o which_o circumcise_v in_o the_o apostasy_n of_o israel_n be_v idolater_n &_o so_o stand_v in_o that_o estate_n can_v not_o be_v fit_a minister_n of_o god_n holy_a ordinance_n &_o that_o the_o want_v of_o a_o lawful_a calling_n to_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n make_v not_o a_o nullity_n thereof_o the_o circumcise_n of_o moses_n son_n by_o his_o mother_n zippora_n exod._n 4.25_o do_v plain_o teach_v for_o as_o the_o lord_n make_v effectual_a his_o word_n to_o his_o people_n though_o come_v unto_o they_o by_o the_o hand_n of_o a_o false_a ministry_n so_o do_v he_o baptism_n to_o all_o that_o be_v he_o though_o administer_v by_o they_o that_o have_v not_o a_o lawful_a call_n thereunto_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o minister_n make_v not_o a_o nullity_n either_o of_o the_o word_n or_o sacrament_n else_o thould_v the_o efficacy_n of_o the_o word_n &_o sacrament_n depend_v upon_o he_o that_o administer_v they_o which_o be_v not_o so_o for_o both_o have_v their_o effect_n from_o the_o lord_n if_o again_o it_o be_v object_v that_o baptism_n be_v not_o administer_v in_o the_o apostate_n chur._n of_o antichrist_n to_o a_o fit_a subject_n i_o answer_v that_o the_o child_n in_o the_o apostasy_n be_v as_o fit_a subject_n to_o receive_v baptism_n as_o the_o infant_n of_o israel_n in_o the_o day_n of_o jeroboam_fw-la &_o ahab_n be_v to_o receive_v circumcision_n see_v the_o covenant_n of_o abraham_n after_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n belong_v as_o proper_o to_o the_o gentile_n gal._n 3.14_o as_o before_o it_o do_v to_o the_o israelite_n john_n smyth_n your_o second_o argument_n follow_v which_o be_v this_o in_o effect_n as_o the_o babylonians_n abuse_v of_o the_o vessel_n of_o the_o l._n house_n do_v not_o make_v a_o nullity_n of_o they_o but_o they_o be_v use_v after_o the_o captivity_n ezra_n 1.11_o so_o the_o antichristian_a abuse_n of_o baptism_n can_v disannul_v it_o but_o it_o may_v be_v retain_v when_o man_n come_v to_o the_o faith_n &_o it_o need_v not_o to_o be_v reiterated_a no_o more_o than_o the_o vessel_n of_o the_o house_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v new_a cast_n i_o answer_v many_o thing_n first_o this_o arg_n be_v a_o excellent_a arg_fw-mi for_o the_o retain_v of_o idol_n temple_n the_o worship_n government_n ministry_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a assembly_n of_o england_n if_o it_o be_v say_v they_o be_v never_o appoint_v by_o god_n so_o say●_n that_o baptism_n of_o they_o be_v never_o appoint_v by_o god_n but_o be_v the_o devise_n of_o antichrist_n second_o i_o answer_v that_o the_o vessel_n of_o the_o lord_n house_n be_v his_o own_o ordinance_n &_o therefore_o need_v not_o to_o be_v new_o cast_v but_o the_o baptism_n of_o antichr_n be_v not_o the_o l._n own_o ordinance_n who_o never_o ordain_v it_o for_o you_o must_v distinguish_v they_o thus_o the_o vessel_n of_o the_o l._n house_n be_v substance_n frame_v by_o art_n into_o particular_a shape_n at_o the_o l._n apointement_n but_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o l._n be_v a_o compound_n or_o concrete_a ordinance_n or_o action_n limit_v in_o certain_a essential_a particular_n not_o be_v a_o substance_n but_o a_o accident_n in_o definition_n now_o if_o antic_a have_v retain_v the_o essential_a part_n of_o baptism_n i_o confess_v it_o need_v not_o to_o be_v repeat_v no_o more_o than_o the_o vessel_n of_o the_o l_o house_n need_n to_o be_v new_o cast_v after_o the_o abuse_n of_o the_o babylonians_n but_o see_v baptism_n in_o popery_n &_o antichristianisme_n be_v not_o the_o l._n ordinance_n in_o the_o definition_n of_o it_o but_o antich_n invention_n therefore_o though_o the_o vessel_n of_o the_o l._n house_n may_v be_v retain_v yet_o baptism_n may_v not_o that_o baptism_n be_v antichr_n invention_n in_o the_o definition_n of_o it_o i_o manifest_a thus_o the_o matter_n of_o baptism_n &_o the_o form_n of_o baptism_n be_v invent_v by_o antich_n go_v it_o be_v a_o invention_n of_o antichrist_n in_o the_o definition_n the_o matter_n of_o antichristian_a baptism_n be_v a_o carnal_a infant_n the_o form_n be_v wash_v one_o into_o the_o covenant_n that_o can_v consent_v to_o the_o covenant_n or_o baptise_v without_o a_o contract_n &_o seal_v the_o covenant_n on_o both_o part_n for_o the_o l._n do_v not_o seal_v to_o the_o infant_n and_o the_o infant_n can_v seal_v to_o the_o lord_n as_o i_o have_v manifest_v already_o in_o the_o answer_n to_o the_o former_a argum_fw-la of_o you_o therefore_o the_o baptism_n of_o antichr_n be_v in_o the_o definition_n of_o it_o the_o mere_a devise_n of_o antichr_n for_o the_o scripture_n describe_v true_a baptism_n which_o be_v the_o lord_n own_o ordinance_n thus_o the_o matter_n must_v be_v one_o that_o confess_v his_o faith_n &_o his_o sin_n one_o that_o be_v regenerate_v &_o bear_v again_o the_o form_n must_v be_v a_o voluntary_a deliver_v up_o of_o the_o party_n baptize_v into_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n son_n &_o holy_a spirit_n by_o wash_v with_o water_n mat._n 28.19_o mat._n 3.6_o john_n ●_o 1_o act._n 2.41_o &_o 8.36.37_o compare_v with_o roman_n 6.17_o &_o mat._n 28._o 20._o &_o 18.20_o &_o gal._n 3.27_o &_o roman_n 6_o 2-6_a wherein_o there_o must_v be_v a_o mutual_a consent_n of_o both_o person_n contract_v together_o &_o that_o this_o be_v so_o the_o form_n of_o baptism_n retain_v in_o popery_n yet_o teach_v plain_o where_o they_o say_v credis_fw-la credo_fw-la abrenunti●s_fw-la abrenuntio_fw-la which_o other_o person_n speak_v for_o the_o infant_n that_o can_v speak_v thereby_o declare_v that_o there_o must_v needs_o be_v a_o mutual_a contract_n of_o both_o the_o party_n contract_v this_o ordinance_n of_o the_o l._n therefore_o be_v abolish_v both_o in_o the_o matter_n &_o form_n &_o a_o other_o strange_a invention_n of_o man_n be_v in_o the_o room_n thereof_o substitute_v which_o be_v not_o the_o l._n &_o therefore_o a_o nullity_n &_o as_o if_o the_o babylonian_n shall_v have_v frame_v a_o temple_n altar_n arck_n or_o candlestick_n after_o their_o devise_n &_o give_v they_o to_o the_o people_n of_o the_o jew_n they_o can_v not_o have_v retain_v they_o &_o use_v they_o to_o worship_n god_n withal_o so_o can_v true_o christian_n retain_v antichristian_a baptism_n which_o be_v devise_v in_o the_o definition_n of_o it_o three_o i_o answer_v that_o if_o the_o antichristian_o have_v baptize_v person_n confess_v their_o sin_n &_o their_o faith_n into_o the_o name_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n &_o the_o trinity_n it_o have_v then_o be_v true_a baptism_n though_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o antichristian_o as_o the_o vessel_n of_o the_o l._n house_n in_o the_o

equalise_v antichristianisme_n with_o gentilism_n the_o one_o be_v a_o apostate_n church_n the_o other_o no_o church_n the_o one_o partaker_n of_o the_o word_n &_o sacram_fw-la though_o with_o much_o coruption_n the_o other_o partaker_n of_o neither_o at_o all_o the_o one_o profess_v christ_n &_o teach_v many_o truth_n of_o god_n &_o so_o many_o as_o the_o elect_a thereby_o may_v come_v to_o faith_n apoc._n 18.4_o the_o other_o neither_o profess_v christ_n nor_o teach_v any_o truth_n of_o god_n whereby_o any_o may_v be_v convert_v to_o christ_n &_o become_v god_n people_n in_o the_o estate_n of_o gentilism_n and_o thus_o have_v make_v plain_a the_o different_a estate_n of_o the_o first_o plant_v church_n &_o we_o in_o apostasy_n i_o answer_v fi_fw-la st_o that_o church_n now_o be_v to_o be_v constitute_v if_o repair_v be_v not_o a_o fit_a spe●ch_n as_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n &_o that_o all_o such_o as_o be_v recea●ed_v in_o as_o member_n be_v unbaptise_v must_v be_v receive_v in_o 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