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A03418
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A letter to Mr. T.H. late minister: now fugitiue: from Sir Edvvard Hoby Knight. In answere of his first Motiue
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Hoby, Edward, Sir, 1560-1617.
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1609
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STC 13541; ESTC S104131
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thousand_o i_o know_v no_o man_n so_o respectless_a of_o himself_o but_o will_v willing_o part_v with_o one_o moiety_n of_o his_o mean_n for_o his_o future_a relief_n pretio_fw-la relief_n empti_fw-la estis_fw-la pretio_fw-la but_o until_o you_o bring_v scripture_n affirmativelie_a to_o prove_v it_o you_o must_v give_v d._n hum._n leave_v especial_o in_o the_o answerers_n place_n to_o pretend_v nay_o to_o plead_v 10.26_o plead_v in_o lege_fw-la quid_fw-la scriptum_fw-la est_fw-la quomodo_fw-la legis_fw-la luk._n 10.26_o scripture_n negative_o against_o it_o your_o former_a ground_n be_v former_o answer_v it_o be_v well_o you_o will_v say_v if_o we_o can_v plead_v so_o to_o the_o authority_n of_o our_o church_n 170._o church_n pag._n 170._o her_o sovereignty_n be_v impeachaable_a without_o any_o other_o proof_n forceable_a from_o whence_o it_o be_v not_o only_a insolency_n but_o madness_n to_o decline_v pulchrè_fw-la dictum_fw-la this_o be_v your_o lady_n first_o a._n b._n c._n the_o 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we_o shall_v do_v the_o greek_a church_n much_o wrong_n to_o deck_v your_o romish_n with_o her_o plume_n have_v receive_v no_o foundation_n of_o faith_n from_o you_o at_o all_o of_o the_o true_a church_n who_o be_v he_o that_o say_v not_o with_o s._n augustine_n non_fw-la parua_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la auctoritas_fw-la well_o do_v her_o modesty_n well_o do_v her_o fidelity_n deserve_v honourable_a esteem_n she_o take_v not_o upon_o she_o to_o control_v the_o holy_a scripture_n her_o mother_n from_o who_o she_o draw_v she_o first_o breath_n she_o open_v not_o her_o mouth_n till_o her_o mother_n have_v deliver_v her_o mind_n she_o come_v not_o of_o her_o own_o head_n with_o any_o sleeveless_a arrend_n no_o other_o message_n do_v she_o bring_v to_o the_o servant_n of_o the_o lord_n house_n then_o that_o which_o her_o mother_n have_v give_v she_o in_o charge_n but_o of_o the_o place_n of_o her_o former_a residence_n and_o how_o many_o paint_a antichristian_a harlot_n have_v jet_v up_o and_o 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himself_o do_v convell_n the_o use_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a maintain_v it_o no_o otherwise_o than_o we_o now_o do_v 172._o do_v pag._n 172._o the_o credulous_a reader_n nay_o he_o be_v a_o sottish_a reader_n that_o shall_v gather_v any_o such_o belief_n out_o of_o d._n humfrey_n word_n who_o have_v not_o any_o one_o sentence_n to_o that_o purpose_n where_o do_v he_o deny_v that_o s._n augustine_n do_v not_o allow_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a this_o have_v be_v a_o delusion_n a_o notable_a figment_n a_o eminent_a depravation_n nay_o he_o plain_o confess_v it_o cite_v s._n aug._n own_o word_n that_o this_o commendation_n of_o the_o dead_a be_v a_o ancient_a custom_n of_o the_o church_n in_o that_o place_n which_o you_o have_v former_o mention_v and_o yet_o by_o the_o way_n it_o be_v not_o amiss_o to_o put_v you_o in_o mind_n what_o s._n augustine_n elsewhere_o do_v confess_v viz._n many_o to_o have_v err_v in_o their_o devotion_n towards_o the_o dead_a 67._o dead_a august_n 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out_o of_o s._n aug._n be_v that_o he_o have_v no_o scripture_n for_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a 2._o dead_a cont._n camp_n pag._n 262._o pars_fw-la 2._o non_fw-la oportere_fw-la nos_fw-la orare_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la si_fw-la scripturae_fw-la praecepta_fw-la respiciamus_fw-la which_o be_v as_o much_o he_o ask_v nay_o he_o allege_v s._n augustinus_n own_o word_n veteremesse_n consuetudinem_fw-la that_o the_o commendation_n of_o the_o dead_a be_v ratify_v by_o custom_n now_o because_o commendation_n of_o the_o dead_a signify_v both_o the_o prayer_n of_o supplication_n as_o you_o superstitious_o abuse_v it_o and_o of_o thanksgiving_n as_o it_o be_v now_o in_o our_o college_n for_o the_o liberality_n of_o the_o founder_n respective_o use_v d._n hum._n assume_v this_o part_n say_v we_o retain_v the_o commendation_n etc._n etc._n and_o do_v not_o therefore_o absolute_o deny_v the_o other_o that_o s._n augustin_n humana_fw-la benevolentia_fw-la be_v somewhat_o incline_v to_o that_o part_n neither_o see_v i_o any_o reason_n why_o he_o shall_v strive_v to_o make_v the_o world_n believe_v that_o s._n augustine_n do_v 172._o do_v pag._n 172._o convel_n the_o use_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a as_o if_o our_o faith_n be_v to_o be_v pin_v upon_o s._n augustine_n sleeve_n and_o yet_o let_v i_o tell_v you_o this_o for_o aught_o that_o ever_o i_o can_v read_v there_o be_v no_o such_o great_a difference_n between_o our_o practice_n and_o s._n augustine_n custom_n as_o you_o surmise_n for_o beside_o the_o pious_a custom_n of_o our_o college_n which_o celebrate_v the_o memory_n of_o the_o dead_a with_o commemoration_n of_o their_o liberality_n beside_o their_o christian_a burial_n and_o the_o dole_n bestow_v upon_o the_o poor_a which_o be_v rather_o solatia_fw-la vivorum_fw-la quam_fw-la subsidia_fw-la mortuor_fw-la we_o pray_v even_o in_o our_o church_n for_o the_o faithful_a depart_v that_o god_n will_v hasten_v their_o joyful_a 23.20_o joyful_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apocal._n 23.20_o resurrection_n and_o the_o full_a
cemetery_n 21_o holy_a water_n 22_o oil_n 23_o salt_n 24_o spittle_n 25_o covent_n 26_o procession_n 27_o pilgrimage_n 28_o relic_n 29_o stewish_a pardon_n 30_o jndulgence_n and_o such_o rifraffe_n juggle_a trash_n and_o baby_n sport_n have_v not_o only_o mutual_a reference_n but_o fundamental_a dependence_n upon_o this_o which_o be_v thus_o shake_v will_n i_o hope_v no_o long_o 6.39_o long_o si_fw-mi caecus_fw-la caecum_fw-la ducat_n ambo_fw-la in_o foveam_fw-la luk._n 6.39_o support_v and_o patronage_n the_o rest_n but_o why_o shall_v i_o hope_v to_o satisfy_v you_o in_o this_o as_o if_o i_o can_v urge_v that_o which_o have_v not_o be_v long_o since_o propound_v to_o this_o purpose_n what_o be_v it_o that_o can_v gain_v assent_n in_o those_o who_o be_v wilful_o perverse_a to_o give_v you_o one_o instance_n for_o all_o how_o often_o have_v it_o be_v demonstrative_o prove_v that_o set_v some_o frivolous_a ceremony_n aside_o our_o country_n of_o brittany_n be_v no_o whit_n behold_v to_o 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this_o isle_n these_o instance_n and_o many_o more_o have_v be_v again_o and_o again_o renew_v without_o any_o verify_v contradiction_n and_o yet_o as_o if_o it_o have_v be_v a_o matter_n which_o you_o never_o hear_v of_o afore_o you_o will_v as_o in_o all_o your_o other_o point_n make_v we_o in_o this_o follow_v you_o up_o and_o down_o weary_v the_o world_n with_o a_o circular_a discuss_v bob_v your_o credulous_a lady_n with_o these_o sirenical_a insinuation_n as_o long_o as_o you_o be_v thus_o partial_o mind_v argument_n will_v be_v no_o inducement_n the_o world_n will_v be_v soon_o end_v then_o this_o matter_n decide_v your_o romish_a practice_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o to_o guild_v old_a weather-beaten_a objection_n with_o new_a glister_a word_n let_v we_o bring_v never_o so_o many_o writ_n of_o error_n you_o will_v still_o reduce_v yourself_o to_o your_o old_a plaint_n from_o a_o new_a convert_v i_o expect_v new_a proof_n §._o 6._o that_o you_o may_v know_v from_o what_o affection_n these_o my_o former_a line_n have_v issue_v i_o have_v reserve_v yet_o one_o corner_n of_o my_o letter_n for_o a_o more_o friendly_a conference_n whereby_o you_o shall_v perceive_v that_o as_o you_o be_v romish_n i_o have_v bend_v those_o force_n that_o be_v next_o at_o hand_n to_o supplant_v your_o error_n as_o you_o be_v my_o countryman_n in_o who_o i_o resolve_v there_o be_v some_o hope_n my_o best_a mean_n shall_v not_o be_v want_v for_o your_o behoof_n let_v i_o then_o say_v to_o m._n theophilus_n hyggons_n as_o he_o that_o sit_v in_o the_o midst_n of_o the_o seven_o golden_a candlestick_n say_v unto_o the_o angel_n of_o ephesus_n 2.5_o ephesus_n apoc._n 2.5_o remember_v from_o whence_o thou_o be_v fall_v and_o repent_v and_o do_v the_o first_o work_n the_o country_n wherein_o you_o be_v bear_v be_v not_o unnaturallie_o to_o be_v despise_v the_o friend_n by_o who_o you_o be_v breed_v be_v not_o unkind_o to_o be_v contemn_v neither_o be_v the_o faith_n whereinto_o you_o be_v baptize_v if_o you_o right_o judge_v so_o inconsideratelie_o to_o be_v forsake_v 44.14_o forsake_v psal_n 44.14_o the_o king_n daughter_n be_v all_o glorious_a within_o howsoever_o the_o babylonian_a harlot_n may_v be_v more_o gaudy_a without_o why_o shall_v you_o think_v our_o write_a word_n of_o less_o value_n than_o your_o headge-creeping_a tradition_n why_o shall_v christ_n merit_n be_v lessen_v by_o your_o own_o satisfaction_n why_o shall_v the_o debt_n be_v again_o exact_v which_o christ_n blood_n have_v once_o for_o all_o full_o pay_v have_v we_o 1_o a_o idolatrous_a heathenish_a or_o superstitious_a religion_n be_v we_o 2_o worshipper_n of_o image_n 3_o impugner_n of_o holy_a marriage_n 4_o rebelliouslie_o affect_v to_o the_o high_a power_n 5_o concealer_n of_o the_o word_n imprison_v it_o in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n 6_o maintainer_n of_o stew_n 7_o do_v we_o keep_v back_o the_o cup_n from_o the_o laity_n which_o the_o lord_n have_v allot_v they_o 8_o do_v we_o hearten_v 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who_o have_v bewitch_v you_o that_o you_o shall_v not_o obey_v the_o truth_n be_v you_o so_o foolish_a that_o after_o you_o have_v begin_v in_o the_o spirit_n you_o will_v now_o end_v in_o the_o flesh_n what_o have_v withdraw_v you_o be_v it_o our_o novelty_n that_o dislike_v you_o can_v you_o desire_v any_o great_a antiquity_n than_o a_o just_a conformity_n of_o all_o our_o principle_n with_o the_o first_o original_n will_v you_o have_v any_o better_a precedent_n than_o the_o pattern_n of_o christ_n his_o apostle_n and_o the_o primitive_a church_n what_o if_o our_o sun_n be_v for_o a_o while_n eclipse_v by_o the_o interposition_n of_o antichristian_a policy_n be_v it_o therefore_o no_o sun_n what_o if_o the_o good_a seed_n be_v overtop_v with_o tare_n that_o it_o can_v hardly_o be_v discern_v as_o in_o the_o day_n of_o elias_n and_o our_o saviour_n christ_n the_o great_a number_n discountenance_v the_o better_a part_n yet_o can_v you_o not_o hence_o infer_v that_o there_o be_v no_o 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