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A92925 Schism dispach't or A rejoynder to the replies of Dr. Hammond and the Ld of Derry. Sergeant, John, 1622-1707. 1657 (1657) Wing S2590; Thomason E1555_1; ESTC R203538 464,677 720

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4._o d_o h_n most_o wilful_a and_o grand_a falsification_n in_o pretend_v a_o author_n for_o he_o and_o conceal_v his_o word_n find_v to_o be_v express_o &_o point_v blank_a against_o he_o his_o unparalleled_a weakness_n in_o dogmatize_v upon_o the_o mystical_a sense_n of_o another_o which_o almost_o in_o every_o point_n contradict_v his_o doctrine_n after_o dr._n h._n have_v pretend_v of_o schism_n p._n 88_o that_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v as_o distinct_o promise_v to_o each_o single_a apostle_n as_o to_o s._n peter_n and_o after_o his_o falsify_v manner_n quote_v matth._n 18._o v._n 18_o as_o most_o clear_a for_o that_o purpose_n where_o no_o such_o distinction_n or_o singularize_v expression_n be_v find_v his_o discourse_n sprout_n out_o into_o another_o branch_n of_o accordance_n in_o these_o word_n and_o according_o math._n 19_o the_o promise_n be_v again_o make_v of_o twelve_o throne_n for_o each_o apostle_n to_o sit_v on_o one_o to_o judge_v id_fw-la est_fw-la say_v 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the_o former_a be_v most_o proper_o comprise_v as_o he_o say_v here_o under_o that_o latter_a yet_o this_o method_n dr._n h._n will_v vindicate_v as_o indeed_o he_o may_v do_v any_o thing_n after_o his_o manner_n see_v his_o confusion_n for_o method_n sake_n schism_n disarm_v p._n 230._o to_o these_o former_a objection_n now_o rehearse_v he_o at_o least_o pretend_v a_o answer_n such_o as_o it_o be_v but_o to_o other_o exception_n sufficient_o lay_v home_o to_o he_o schism_n disarm_v p._n 32._o 33._o he_o think_v it_o safe_a to_o give_v none_o at_o all_o he_o be_v ask_v there_o and_o i_o ask_v he_o here_o again_o why_o he_o omit_v schism_n against_o the_o head_n of_o god_n church_n he_o can_v avoid_v by_o say_v that_o this_o be_v not_o charge_v upon_o they_o it_o be_v as_o he_o here_o confess_v the_o principal_a schism_n object_v p._n 31._o l._n 2._o 3._o will_v he_o say_v it_o be_v a_o usurpation_n let_v he_o hold_v a_o while_n till_o he_o have_v prove_v it_o and_o in_o the_o mean_a 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disobey_v or_o reject_v any_o authority_n take_v its_o measure_n of_o faultiness_n from_o the_o excellency_n of_o the_o authority_n it_o oppose_v he_o ought_v to_o have_v let_v we_o know_v that_o we_o be_v supreme_o &_o in_o the_o high_a manner_n schismatic_n for_o deny_v the_o king_n be_v ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n but_o alas_o this_o airy_a supremacy_n of_o king_n in_o sacred_a matter_n be_v such_o a_o addle_n piece_n of_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n that_o though_o they_o pretend_v it_o to_o avoid_v the_o pope_n jurisdiction_n yet_o as_o it_o appear_v they_o decline_v to_o own_v it_o themselves_o as_o much_o as_o they_o can_v upon_o occasion_n lest_o come_v to_o a_o controversial_a discussion_n it_o bewray_v its_o weakness_n by_o the_o absurdity_n of_o some_o necessary_a consequence_n or_o other_o issue_v from_o it_o just_o therefore_o do_v schism_n disarm_v cast_v up_o the_o account_n of_o mr._n h_n division_n of_o schism_n p._n 34._o charge_v he_o to_o have_v omit_v the_o three_o principal_a schism_n against_o government_n and_o those_o not_o only_o principal_a in_o themselves_o but_o also_o sole_o import_v the_o present_a controversy_n and_o only_o mention_v those_o which_o be_v not_o object_v and_o so_o nothing_o at_o all_o concern_v the_o question_n sect._n 15._o with_o what_o success_n dr._n h._n go_v about_o to_o retrench_v the_o roman_a patriarchy_n and_o to_o vindicate_v ruffinus_n the_o next_o question_n which_o come_v to_o be_v discuss_v be_v of_o the_o extent_n of_o the_o roman_a patriarchy_n which_o the_o cath._n gentl._n show_v dr._n h._n willing_a to_o limit_v from_o a_o word_n in_o ruffinus_n so_o that_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v extend_v to_o all_o italy_n that_o this_o be_v the_o question_n be_v evident_a both_o by_o bring_v ruffinus_n his_o testimony_n upon_o the_o stage_n who_o acknowledg'd_o speak_v of_o patriarchal_a jurisdiction_n as_o also_o by_o dr._n h_n word_n in_o his_o reply_n p._n 33._o l._n 2._o and_o again_o p._n 34._o l_o 4._o 5._o to_o avoid_v the_o doctor_n blundr_a art_n in_o which_o he_o be_v very_o exquisite_a always_o but_o in_o handle_v this_o question_n have_v excel_v himself_o we_o will_v clear_v the_o way_n towards_o the_o decide_n it_o by_o premise_v these_o few_o note_n first_o it_o be_v agree_v upon_o between_o we_o that_o the_o metropolitical_a power_n be_v distinct_a from_o the_o patriarchal_a and_o of_o schism_n p._n 54._o l._n 19_o 20._o and_o p._n 56._o l._n 5._o 6._o 7._o of_o a_o less_o authority_n and_o extent_n next_o it_o be_v affirm_v by_o dr._n h._n of_o schism_n p._n 55._o that_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o bishop_n be_v correspondent_a to_o the_o defensor_fw-la civitatis_fw-la that_o of_o the_o archbishop_n or_o metropolitan_a to_o the_o precedent_n of_o every_o province_n that_o of_o a_o patriarch_n to_o the_o lieutenant_n or_o vicarius_fw-la and_o in_o general_a that_o the_o ecclesiastical_a order_n follow_v the_o political_a this_o i_o only_o take_v notice_n of_o as_o a_o affirmation_n of_o he_o not_o grant_v it_o to_o be_v universal_o true_a nor_o do_v he_o prove_v it_o be_v so_o otherwise_o than_o by_o origen_n say_n it_o be_v fit_a it_o shall_v be_v so_o for_o the_o council_n of_o constantinople_n and_o chalcedon_n where_o this_o be_v determine_v be_v hold_v long_o after_o this_o order_n in_o the_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n in_o constantine_n time_n of_o which_o he_o speak_v here_o and_o so_o their_o testimony_n rather_o prejudice_v it_o than_o prove_v it_o for_o have_v it_o be_v so_o universal_o practise_v before_o what_o need_n be_v there_o of_o order_v it_o by_o follow_a council_n these_o thing_n be_v so_o as_o be_v most_o evident_a and_o undeniable_a let_v we_o see_v how_o incomparable_o dr._n h._n blunder_n in_o this_o question_n his_o first_o and_o fundamental_a blunder_a be_v that_o he_o will_v conclude_v against_o the_o extent_n of_o the_o patriarchal_a power_n by_o impugn_v the_o far_a extent_n of_o he_o metropolitical_a who_o authority_n notwithstanding_o he_o acknowledge_v high_a his_o jurisdiction_n large_a as_o the_o second_o note_n show_v now_o that_o he_o indeed_o impugn_a a_o metropolitical_a power_n only_o in_o stead_n of_o a_o patriarchal_a be_v manifest_v both_o because_o he_o impugn_v this_o latter_a in_o the_o 17._o parag_n ordain_v to_o treat_v of_o metropolitical_a power_n only_o his_o treat_v of_o primate_fw-la and_o patriarch_n not_o begin_v till_o parag_v 21._o as_o be_v most_o visible_a to_o the_o reader_n be_v eye_n which_o dr._n h._n will_v yet_o delude_v as_o also_o because_o himself_o confess_v it_o of_o schism_n p._n 50._o l._n 18_o 19_o so_o that_o he_o will_v conclude_v against_o the_o patriarchal_a power_n which_o himself_o grant_v to_o extend_v to_o many_o province_n of_o schism_n p._n 56._o l._n 6._o by_o argue_v against_o metropolitical_n which_o himself_o grant_v to_o extend_v but_o to_o
this_o manner_n of_o treat_v scripture_n then_o we_o catholic_n account_v in_o a_o high_a degree_n blasphemous_a nay_o to_o open_v the_o way_n to_o all_o blasphemousness_n and_o this_o because_o we_o do_v not_o dogmatise_v upon_o it_o or_o affix_v to_o it_o any_o interpretation_n that_o we_o build_v faith_n upon_o which_o be_v not_o warrant_v by_o the_o universal_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n and_o our_o rule_n of_o faith_n universal_a tradition_n though_o we_o know_v it_o be_v the_o protestant_n gallantry_n to_o make_v it_o dance_v afther_o the_o jig_a humour_n of_o their_o own_o fancy_n call_v all_o god_n word_n though_o never_o so_o absurd_a which_o their_o own_o private_a head_n without_o ground_n or_o shadow_n of_o ground_n imagine_v deducible_a thence_o nay_o more_o to_o call_v it_o a_o evidence_n that_o be_v a_o ground_n sufficient_a to_o found_v and_o establish_v faith_n upon_o and_o thus_o much_o for_o dr._n h_n blasphemous_a and_o irreverent_a treat_v both_o faith_n and_o scripture_n sect._n 4._o how_o dr._n h._n prevaricate_v from_o his_o own_o most_o express_a word_n the_o whole_a tenor_n of_o his_o discourse_n the_o main_a scope_n of_o his_o most_o substantial_a chapter_n and_o last_o from_o the_o whole_a question_n by_o deny_v that_o he_o mean_v or_o hold_v exclusive_a province_n and_o how_o to_o contrive_v this_o evasion_n he_o contradict_v himself_o nine_a time_n in_o that_o one_o point_n at_o length_n we_o be_v come_v home_o close_o to_o the_o question_n itself_o whether_o the_o pope_n be_v head_n of_o the_o church_n pretend_v to_o be_v evident_o disprove_v by_o dr._n h._n in_o the_o four_o chapter_n of_o schism_n by_o this_o argument_n s._n peter_n have_v no_o supremacy_n therefore_o his_o successor_n the_o pope_n can_v have_v none_o the_o consequence_n we_o grant_v to_o be_v valid_a sound_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o latter_a upon_o his_o succeed_v the_o former_a but_o we_o absolute_o deny_v the_o antecedent_n to_o wit_n that_o saint_n peter_n have_v no_o supremacy_n that_o be_v supreme_a power_n and_o jurisdiction_n in_o god_n church_n dr._n h._n pretend_v a_o endeavour_n to_o prove_v it_o in_o this_o his_o four_o chapter_n offer_v his_o evidence_n for_o this_o negative_a p._n 70._o l._n 4._o first_o from_o s._n peter_n have_v no_o universal_a jurisdiction_n from_o parag_n 5._o to_o parag_v 20._o second_o from_o thence_o to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n from_o his_o not_o have_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n as_o his_o peculiar●●ty_n and_o enclosure_n that_o be_v from_o his_o not_o have_v they_o so_o as_o we_o never_o hold_v he_o to_o have_v have_v they_o his_o first_o argument_n from_o s._n peter_n not_o have_v a_o universal_a jurisdiction_n proceed_v on_o this_o manner_n that_o each_o apostle_n have_v peculiar_a and_o exclusive_a province_n pretend_v to_o be_v evidence_v in_o his_o five_o parag_n from_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lot_n of_o apostleship_n &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d judas_n his_o place_n in_o hell_n of_o schism_n p._n 71._o that_o the_o jew_n only_o be_v s._n peter_n province_n nay_o that_o but_o one_o portion_n of_o the_o disperse_a jew_n can_v reasonable_o be_v place_v under_o s._n peter_n jurisdiction_n that_o the_o gentile_n be_v s._n paul_n etc._n etc._n and_o all_o this_o undertake_v there_o to_o be_v evidence_v by_o testimony_n from_o scripture_n father_n and_o other_o author_n what_o have_v be_v the_o success_n of_o his_o evidence_n from_o his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v already_o be_v manifest_v by_o show_v that_o he_o have_v neither_o any_o ground_n in_o the_o place_n itself_o to_o favour_v his_o explication_n of_o a_o lesser_a province_n nor_o among_o all_o the_o many-minded_a commenter_n on_o scripture_n so_o much_o as_o one_o authority_n to_o second_v it_o as_o for_o his_o limit_v s._n peter_n jurisdiction_n to_o the_o jew_n only_o and_o s._n paul_n to_o the_o gentile_n by_o his_o pretend_a proof_n his_o disarmer_n offer_v he_o p._n 52._o that_n if_o among_o those_o many_o testimony_n he_o produce_v to_o prove_v it_o there_o be_v but_o find_v any_o one_o sentence_n line_n word_n syllable_n or_o letter_n which_o exclude_v s._n peter_n authority_n from_o the_o gentile_n more_o than_o what_o himself_o put_v in_o of_o his_o own_o head_n he_o will_v be_v content_a to_o yield_v he_o the_o whole_a controversy_n which_o he_o vindicate_v to_o the_o very_a eye_n of_o the_o reader_n from_o every_o testimony_n one_o by_o one_o allege_v by_o dr._n h._n in_o this_o manner_n stand_v the_o case_n then_o between_o s._n w._n and_o his_o adversary_n it_o remain_v now_o to_o be_v see_v what_o reply_n he_o tender_v to_o so_o grievous_a heavy_a and_o unheard-of_a a_o charge_n and_o how_o he_o can_v colour_v a_o fault_n so_o gross_a palpable_a and_o visible_a to_o the_o eye_n of_o every_o reader_n observe_v good_a reader_n i_o beseech_v thou_o whether_o thou_o be_v catholic_n protestant_n or_o of_o whatever_o other_o profession_n that_o now_o the_o very_a point_n of_o the_o controversy_n be_v in_o agitation_n for_o we_o pretend_v no_o tenor_n for_o the_o pop'e_v supremacy_n save_v only_o that_o he_o succeed_v s._n peter_n who_o we_o hold_v to_o have_v have_v it_o if_o then_o it_o be_v evidence_v as_o be_v pretend_v that_o s._n peter_n have_v none_o the_o doctor_n have_v inevitable_o conclude_v against_o we_o reflect_v also_o i_o entreat_v thou_o on_o the_o grievousness_n of_o the_o charge_n lay_v by_o s._n w._n against_o dr._n h._n and_o make_v full_a account_n as_o reason_n oblige_v thou_o and_o i_o for_o my_o part_n give_v thou_o my_o good_a leave_n that_o there_o must_v be_v most_o open_a knavery_n and_o perfect_a voluntary_a insincerity_n on_o one_o side_n or_o other_o and_o when_o thou_o have_v examine_v it_o well_o i_o be_o a_o party_n and_o so_o must_v not_o be_v a_o judge_n lay_v thou_o the_o blame_n where_o thou_o shall_v find_v the_o fault_n neither_o despair_n that_o thou_o have_v ability_n enough_o to_o be_v a_o competent_a judge_n in_o this_o present_n contest_v here_o be_v no_o nice_a subtlety_n to_o be_v speculate_v but_o plain_a word_n to_o be_v read_v for_o what_o plain_a than_o to_o see_v whether_o in_o the_o testimony_n there_o be_v any_o word_n limit_v the_o jurisdiction_n of_o s._n peter_n or_o whether_o they_o be_v only_o the_o addition_n of_o dr._n h._n antecedent_o or_o subsequent_o to_o the_o testimony_n but_o what_o need_v any_o judge_n to_o determine_v or_o decide_v that_o which_o dr._n h._n himself_o have_v confess_v here_o in_o his_o reply_n and_o answer_v where_o see_v it_o impossible_a to_o show_v any_o one_o word_n in_o all_o that_o army_n of_o testimony_n which_o he_o muster_v up_o there_o limit_v s._n peter_n jurisdiction_n to_o the_o jew_n or_o exclude_v it_o from_o the_o gentile_n which_o yet_o be_v there_o pretend_v he_o have_v recourse_n for_o his_o justification_n to_o the_o most_o 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express_a word_n manifest_a he_o mean_v exclusiveness_n of_o jurisdiction_n for_o of_o schism_n p._n 70._o he_o use_v the_o very_a word_n exclusive_o say_v that_o s._n peter_n be_v apostle_n of_o the_o jew_n exclusive_o to_o the_o gentile_n and_o that_o this_o exclusiveness_n be_v mean_v to_o be_v of_o jurisdiction_n be_v no_o less_o express_o manifest_v from_o the_o follow_a page_n where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o but_o one_o portion_n of_o the_o disperse_a jew_n can_v reasonable_o be_v place_v under_o s._n peter_n jurisdiction_n which_o be_v second_v by_o his_o express_a word_n here_o also_o reply_v p._n 56_o the_o portion_n of_o one_o apostle_n be_v so_o his_o that_o he_o have_v no_o right_a to_o any_o other_o part_n exclude_v he_o from_o any_o far_a right_n etc._n etc._n and_o sure_a if_o he_o have_v no_o right_a to_o preach_v to_o any_o other_o province_n he_o have_v no_o jurisdiction_n at_o all_o
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