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A61532 The Council of Trent examin'd and disprov'd by Catholick tradition in the main points in controversie between us and the Church of Rome with a particular account of the times and occasions of introducing them : Part 1 : to which a preface is prefixed concerning the true sense of the Council of Trent and the notion of transubstantiation. Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1688 (1688) Wing S5569; ESTC R4970 128,819 200

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this_o particular_a modus_fw-la must_v be_v determine_v i_o grant_v that_o the_o council_n do_v not_o say_v there_o be_v a_o annihilation_n of_o the_o element_n and_o i_o know_v no_o necessity_n of_o use_v that_o term_n for_o that_o which_o be_v suppose_v to_o be_v turn_v into_o another_o thing_n can_v proper_o be_v say_v to_o be_v annihilate_v which_o be_v the_o reduce_v it_o to_o nothing_o but_o the_o council_n do_v assert_v a_o total_a conversion_n of_o one_o substance_n into_o another_o and_o where_o that_o be_v that_o substance_n must_v whole_o cease_v to_o be_v what_o it_o be_v and_o so_o there_o can_v be_v no_o substance_n of_o the_o element_n remain_v after_o consecration_n for_o as_o aquinas_n observe_v quod_fw-la convertitur_fw-la in_o aliquid_fw-la factâ_fw-la conversione_n non_fw-la manet_fw-la if_o then_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o element_n do_v 2._o not_o remain_v after_o consecration_n by_o virtue_n of_o this_o total_a conversion_n than_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n by_o its_o decree_n have_v plain_o determine_v the_o modus_fw-la of_o the_o real_a presence_n so_o as_o to_o exclude_v any_o such_o manner_n as_o do_v suppose_v the_o substance_n to_o remain_v whether_o it_o be_v by_o impanation_n or_o consubstantiation_n or_o any_o other_o way_n what_o if_o rupertus_n think_v the_o bread_n may_v become_v the_o real_a body_n of_o christ_n by_o a_o union_n of_o the_o word_n to_o it_o all_o that_o can_v be_v infer_v be_v that_o the_o modus_fw-la be_v not_o then_o so_o determine_v as_o to_o oblige_v all_o person_n to_o hold_v it_o but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n can_v any_o one_o hold_v the_o substance_n to_o remain_v and_o not_o to_o remain_v at_o the_o same_o time_n for_o he_o that_o hold_v with_o rupertus_n must_v allow_v the_o substance_n to_o remain_v he_o that_o believe_v a_o total_a conversion_n must_v deny_v it_o and_o he_o
any_o of_o the_o schoolman_n and_o that_o the_o accident_n of_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n may_v be_v separate_v from_o the_o substance_n of_o they_o but_o this_o be_v not_o then_o make_v a_o matter_n of_o faith_n as_o it_o be_v afterward_o but_o the_o case_n be_v remarkable_o alter_v after_o the_o lateran_n council_n under_o innocent_a iii_o for_o transubstantiation_n be_v admit_v there_o among_o the_o article_n of_o faith_n and_o so_o enter_v in_o the_o canon-law_n in_o the_o very_a beginning_n of_o the_o decretal_n this_o do_v not_o mere_o become_v a_o school-term_n but_o by_o the_o inquisitor_n of_o that_o time_n it_o be_v account_v heresy_n to_o deny_v it_o it_o may_v be_v sufficient_o prove_v by_o the_o schoolman_n and_o canonist_n that_o a_o difference_n of_o opinion_n as_o to_o the_o modus_fw-la do_v still_o continue_v but_o that_o belong_v to_o a_o more_o proper_a place_n and_o joh._n parisiensis_fw-la declare_v p._n 103_o that_o the_o lateran_n council_n in_o his_o opinion_n do_v not_o make_v transubstantiation_n a_o point_n of_o faith_n or_o at_o least_o that_o substance_n be_v not_o to_o be_v take_v for_o the_o matter_n but_o the_o suppositum_fw-la but_o the_o inquisitor_n go_v more_o brisk_o to_o work_v and_o make_v it_o downright_a ●●●●esie_n to_o assert_v that_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o element_n do_v remain_v after_o consecration_n of_o this_o we_o have_v full_a evidence_n in_o the_o register_n of_o courtney_n archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n which_o be_v no_o invisible_a manuscript_n for_o there_o we_o read_v f._n 25._o that_o he_o call_v a_o select_a convecation_n of_o bishop_n divine_n and_o canonist_n may_v 17._o a._n d._n 1382._o to_o declare_v some_o proposition_n to_o be_v heretical_a and_o s●me_v to_o be_v erroneous_a and_o contrary_a to_o the_o determination_n of_o the_o church_n among_o the_o first_o these_o two_o be_v set_v down_o in_o the_o first_o place_n 1._o that_o the_o material_a substance_n of_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n do_v remain_v in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o altar_n after_o consecration_n 2._o that_o the_o accident_n do_v not_o remain_v without_o their_o subject_n in_o that_o sacrament_n after_o consecration_n after_o this_o the_o archbishop_n send_v forth_o his_o mandate_n to_o all_o his_o suffragans_fw-la not_o only_o to_o prohibit_v the_o preach_n of_o that_o doctrine_n but_o to_o inquire_v after_o those_o who_o do_v it_o and_o june_n 12._o robert_n rygge_n chancellor_n of_o oxford_n and_o thomas_n brightwall_n appear_v before_o he_o and_o be_v examine_v upon_o these_o proposition_n which_o they_o declare_v to_o be_v heretical_a who_o thereupon_o require_v the_o publication_n of_o they_o as_o such_o in_o the_o university_n and_o the_o proceed_n against_o those_o who_o be_v suspect_v to_o favour_v they_o the_o ground_n the_o archbishop_n go_v upon_o be_v that_o these_o have_v be_v already_o condemn_v by_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o ex_fw-la abundanti_fw-la they_o declare_v they_o to_o be_v so_o condemn_v as_o appear_v by_o the_o monition_n give_v to_o robert_n rygge_v himself_o as_o too_o much_o suspect_v to_o favour_v the_o contrary_a doctrine_n as_o well_o as_o nicholas_n hereford_n philip_n reppyndon_n d._n d._n and_o john_n ashton_n b._n d._n against_o these_o the_o archbishop_n proceed_v as_o inquisitor_n haereticae_fw-la pravitatis_fw-la per_fw-la totam_fw-la svam_fw-la provinciam_fw-la as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o record_n who_o appear_v desire_v a_o copy_n of_o the_o several_a proposition_n and_o then_o they_o be_v require_v to_o give_v in_o their_o judgement_n upon_o they_o ashton_n refuse_v but_o the_o other_o promise_v which_o they_o perform_v soon_o after_o and_o to_o these_o two_o proposition_n their_o answer_n be_v to_o the_o first_o that_o as_o far_o as_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o decretal_a firmiter_fw-la credimus_fw-la it_o be_v heresy_n to_o the_o second_o that_o as_o far_o as_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o decretal_a cum_fw-la marthoe_n it_o be_v heresy_n these_o answer_n be_v judge_v insufficient_a because_o they_o do_v not_o declare_v what_o that_o sense_n be_v and_o the_o archbishop_n put_v this_o question_n to_o they_o whether_o the_o same_o numerical_a material_a bread_n which_o before_o consecration_n be_v set_v upon_o the_o altar_n do_v remain_v in_o its_o proper_a substance_n and_o nature_n after_o consecration_n but_o they_o will_v give_v no_o other_o answer_n at_o that_o time_n but_o afterward_o reppyndon_n abjure_v and_o be_v make_v bishop_n of_o lincoln_n from_o hence_o it_o appear_v that_o it_o be_v then_o think_v that_o the_o modus_fw-la be_v so_o far_o determine_v by_o the_o lateran_n council_n that_o the_o contrary_a doctrine_n be_v declare_v not_o mere_o erroneous_a in_o faith_n but_o heretical_a in_o the_o first_o convocation_n hold_v by_o th._n arundel_n archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n a._n d._n 1396_o a_o complaint_n be_v 47._o bring_v that_o several_a divine_n and_o other_o of_o the_o university_n of_o oxford_n hold_v some_o heretical_a and_o erroneous_a opinion_n the_o first_o whereof_o be_v that_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n do_v remain_v after_o confecration_n and_o do_v not_o cease_v to_o be_v bread_n which_o be_v there_o affirm_v to_o be_v heresy_n speak_v of_o material_a bread._n the_o second_o that_o the_o court_n of_o rome_n in_o the_o can._n ego_fw-la berengarius_fw-la have_v determine_v that_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n be_v natural_o true_a bread._n it_o be_v very_o hard_a to_o say_v how_o this_o come_v to_o be_v then_o account_v heretical_a doctrine_n when_o no_o less_o a_o man_n than_o durandus_fw-la in_o the_o same_o age_n affirm_v that_o the_o canonist_n grant_v that_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o cease_n of_o the_o substance_n be_v ground_v on_o the_o can._n firmiter_fw-la credimus_fw-la i._n e._n on_o the_o lateran_n council_n but_o that_o of_o the_o remain_v of_o the_o substance_n on_o that_o ego_fw-la berengarius_fw-la but_o however_o it_o pass_v for_o heretical_a or_o at_o least_o very_a erroneous_a doctrine_n here_o but_o the_o main_a heresy_n be_v to_o hold_v that_o the_o substance_n remain_v for_o a._n d._n 1400._o as_o appear_v by_o the_o register_n p._n 2._o f._n 179._o william_n sawtre_fw-fr alius_fw-la chatris_fw-la a_o parochial_a priest_n in_o london_n be_v summon_v before_o the_o same_o archbishop_n in_o convocation_n upon_o a_o information_n of_o heresy_n and_o one_o of_o the_o main_a article_n against_o he_o be_v that_o he_o hold_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n to_o remain_v in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o altar_n after_o consecration_n and_o that_o it_o do_v not_o cease_v to_o be_v bread._n sawtre_n answer_v that_o he_o believe_v that_o after_o consecration_n the_o bread_n do_v remain_v with_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o it_o do_v not_o cease_v to_o be_v simple_o bread_n but_o it_o remain_v holy_a and_o true_a the_o bread_n of_o life_n and_o body_n of_o christ._n the_o arch_a bishop_n examine_v he_o 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william_n thorp_n by_o thomas_n arundel_n archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n a._n d._n 1407._o which_o be_v not_o in_o the_o register_n be_v defective_a but_o the_o account_n be_v preserve_v from_o his_o own_o copy_n the_o archbishop_n declare_v that_o the_o church_n have_v now_o determine_v that_o there_o abide_v no_o substance_n of_o bread_n after_o consecration_n in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o altar_n and_o that_o if_o he_o believe_v otherwise_o he_o do_v not_o believe_v as_o the_o church_n believe_v thorp_n quote_v s._n augustin_n and_o fulgentius_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o substance_n remain_v and_o the_o very_a mass_n on_o christmas_n day_n the_o archbishop_n still_o press_v he_o with_o the_o church_n determination_n thorp_n say_v this_o be_v a_o school-nicety_n whether_o accident_n can_v be_v without_o a_o subject_a no_o say_v the_o archbishop_n it_o be_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n i_o go_v upon_o thorp_n reply_v it_o be_v not_o so_o for_o a_o thousand_o year_n after_o christ._n in_o the_o
examination_n of_o the_o lord_n cobham_n a._n d._n 1412._o by_o the_o same_o archbishop_n we_o find_v that_o he_o own_v the_o real_a 143._o presence_n of_o christ_n body_n as_o firm_o as_o his_o accuser_n but_o he_o be_v condemn_v for_o heresy_n because_o he_o hold_v the_o substance_n of_o bread_n to_o remain_v for_o the_o archbishop_n declare_v this_o to_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o church_n that_o after_o consecration_n remain_v no_o material_a bread_n or_o wine_n which_o be_v before_o they_o be_v turn_v into_o christ_n very_a body_n and_o blood_n the_o original_a word_n of_o the_o archbishop_n as_o they_o be_v in_o the_o register_n be_v these_o the_o faith_n and_o the_o determination_n of_o holy_a church_n touch_v the_o blestfull_a sacrament_n of_o the_o auter_n be_v this_o that_o after_o the_o sacramental_a word_n be_v say_v by_o a_o press_v in_o his_o mass_n the_o material_a breed_v that_o be_v before_o be_v turn_v into_o christ_n veray_v body_n and_o the_o material_a wyn_n that_o be_v before_o be_v turn_v into_o christ_n veray_fw-fr blood_n and_o so_o there_o lew_v in_o the_o auter_n no_o material_a breed_n ne_o material_a wyn_n the_o which_o be_v there_o before_o the_o say_n of_o the_o sacramental_a word_n and_o the_o bishop_n afterward_o stand_v up_o and_o say_v it_o be_v manifest_a heresy_n to_o say_v that_o it_o be_v bread_n after_o the_o sacramental_a word_n be_v speak_v because_o it_o be_v against_o the_o determination_n of_o holy_a church_n but_o to_o make_v all_o sure_a not_o many_o year_n after_o may_v four_o a._n d._n 1415._o the_o council_n of_o constance_n session_n 8._o declare_v the_o two_o proposition_n before_o mention_v to_o be_v heretical_a viz._n to_o hold_v that_o the_o substance_n do_v remain_v after_o consecration_n and_o that_o the_o accident_n do_v not_o remain_v without_o a_o subject_a let_v any_o impartial_a reader_n now_o judge_n whether_o it_o be_v any_o fatal_a oversight_n to_o assert_v that_o the_o modus_fw-la of_o the_o 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