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A18620 The state of the now-Romane Church Discussed by way of vindication of the Right Reuerend Father in God, the Lord Bishop of Exceter, from the weake cauills of Henry Burton. By H.C. Cholmley, Hugh, ca. 1574-1641. 1629 (1629) STC 5144; ESTC S107813 40,972 128

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