Selected quad for the lemma: faith_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
faith_n	child_n	covenant_n	parent_n	7,519	5	9.1290	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A25527	An Answer to A letter from a minister to a person of quality, showing some reasons for his non-conformity		1679 (1679)	Wing A3317; ESTC R15207	17,472	9

according_a to_o their_o best_a discretion_n they_o have_v choose_v out_o such_o part_n of_o scripture_n to_o be_v read_v in_o the_o congregation_n which_o be_v most_o intelligible_a if_o they_o omit_v other_o such_o as_o many_o chapter_n of_o the_o chronicle_n and_o revelation_n be_v which_o they_o think_v will_v not_o be_v for_o the_o edification_n of_o a_o vulgar_a auditory_a and_o if_o they_o have_v mix_v some_o of_o the_o apocrypha_fw-la they_o be_v withal_o such_o part_n of_o it_o as_o may_v be_v of_o wholesome_a instruction_n and_o for_o their_o equail_v these_o with_o the_o holy_a scripture_n proper_o so_o call_v it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o it_o be_v in_o our_o article_n declare_v what_o book_n we_o look_v upon_o as_o canonical_a what_o as_o apocryphal_a and_o that_o we_o neither_o disguise_n nor_o recommend_v either_o but_o under_o their_o proper_a name_n and_o whether_o this_o be_v a_o reason_n to_o break_v communion_n with_o a_o church_n let_v any_o man_n judge_n especial_o since_o it_o be_v no_o new_a thing_n to_o recommend_v book_n that_o be_v not_o scripture_n to_o be_v keep_v and_o expose_v in_o the_o church_n to_o public_a use_n such_o as_o erasmus_n his_o paraphrase_n foxe_n martyrology_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o these_o be_v not_o scruple_v at_o his_o next_o scruple_n be_v second_o against_o the_o order_n appoint_v for_o the_o ministration_n of_o baptism_n and_o that_o upon_o these_o three_o account_n 1._o because_o of_o godfather_n and_o godmather_n 2._o because_o of_o the_o cross_n 3._o because_o of_o what_o be_v annex_v to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o sacrament_n i._o he_o do_v not_o approve_v of_o the_o strict_a require_v of_o godfather_n and_o godmather_n to_o stand_v as_o surety_n and_o undertaker_n for_o the_o child_n to_o be_v baptize_v viz._n that_o he_o shall_v renounce_v the_o devil_n and_o all_o his_o work_n and_o constant_o believe_v god_n holy_a word_n and_o obedient_o keep_v his_o commandment_n but_o whether_o a._n b._n 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