not have beene the true and Catholicke Church but the Arrians should have been the Catholick Church for that they far exceeded in nuÌ„ber the rest which were the true Christians In this sence therefore wee deny the consequence The Antecedent also is not true because as before I sayde the Church of Rome doth not consent with the Church of the Apostles nor yet with the Church of the Fathers And therefore they haue not that vniuersality of multitude whereof they boast 5 If the Church of Rome bee not the true Church then for some ages together Christ had beene without a spouse but Christ never was without a spouse Therefore c. An 1. From a speciall to a generall arguments are drawen only affirmatively It is no good consequence therefore the church of Rome consisting of Popes Cardinalls Bishops Priests and others of the same ranke who withstood the heauenly truth were not the spouse of Christ therefore Christ had no spouse 2. I deny the maior or first propositioÌ„ For there were also other Churches as the Greeke Church which alwaies gainsayd the Bishop of Rome and wherein Christ might haue his spouse The argument therefore proceedes from an insufficient enumeration or reckoning vp of the parts to the whole 3 In the visible erronious Church of Rome there was the spouse of CHRIST hidden to the eye of the World all glorious within Psal 45 13 or the inuisible companie of belieuers Ans so Christ neuerthelesse had his Spouse On the contrarie side that we haue the Church of God with vs we proue Because to us agreeth the definition of the church therefore the church which is the thing defined agreeth to vs also 1. For in our Church the vncorupt ministerie of the word and Sacraments dooth flourish for witnesse whereof wee haue the holy scripture nay our Aduersaries theÌ„selues who hither to coulde neuer shewe out the Scripture that there is any thing in our Ministerie doctrine or administration of the Sacramentes contrarie to Christ or his Apostles Therefore wee are the true Church Because our Church in respect both of the Word and Sacraments is comformable to the Church described in the writings of the New testament vnder the Apostles Contrariwise our Aduersaries do reason thus 1 The Protestants belieue not all thinges which the Church of Rome dooth Therefore they are not the true Church Ans 1. There is more in the Conclusion than in the premises For no more followeth thence than that we do not agree with the Church of Rome in all things which who will deny But wee may not for that cause be thought not to be the true Church 2 It is a begging of the question For whether they which gaine-say the Churh of Rome do gaine-say the true Church that is the thing in controversie 2 The Protestants Church dooth not agree with the Church of the Fathers in all thinges Therfore they are not the true Church of Christ Ans 1. This argument is too common and agrees to both sides For by the same reason it may be proved that the Papists are not the Church because their Church which they cannot deny hath much fallen away from the Church of the Fathers 2 the church of the Fathers is not the sampler of Churches but the Church of the Apostles to which it is sufficient that our Church is like 3 The Prodestants doctrine is new It is but few yeares agoe since it first sawe the light Therefore their Church is not the true Church Answ 1. This is a begging of the question For that same is the matter in controversie 2. Our doctrine is not new but renued 3. There are therefore foure termes in the Argument For in the Maior proposition the worde Newe is taken for that which is simply and altogether new in the Minor for the refined and renued ministerie of the Word reformed according to the rule of the most ancieÌ„t doctrine of the Prophets Christ and the Apostles 4 The Church ought to have vnitie but so hath not the Church of the Protestants for it is rent and devided into parts and schismes Ans 1 Heere be foure termes For in the Maior proposition by the word Church are meant those which in truth and deede are the Church in the minor those which are in the outward company of the Church or those which have mingled themselves amongst our Church when as in truth they be not of our opinioÌ„ And these sever themselues from the true Church of them who maintaine the truth and stirre vp Schismes Of such sort of men Saint Iohn saith They went out from vs but they were not of vs for if they had been of vs they would have continued with vs 1 Iohn 2 19 2 It is a fallacie taking that for a cause which is not a cause Because the Church is not the cause of tumults and schismes but Schismatickes are the cause therof Otherwise the Church of Corinth had not beene the true church seeing Paul writeth There must be heresies among you 1 Corinth 11 19. Question 2 Whether we must grant that there is an inuisible Church The Papists acknowledge onely a visible Church which same they tye to the Pope Cardinalls Bishops c. rather than to the hearers But wee in this visible companie of them that heare the Word and vse the Sacraments doe believe that there is an other companie inuisible to the eies of men not in respect of the members persons themselues but in respect of the inteÌ„t of their hart and their fayth which is only known vnto God And that for these reasons Because wee believe the holy Catholicke Church but faith is the ground and evideÌ„ce of things which are not seene Heb 11 1. Because those which are in the visible Church may a great part of them be hypocrites betweene such and the true beleeuers God alone doth discerne vnto vs the hearts of men are not knowne and the Church doth iudge of secret â—gings 1. Christ knowes his sheepe Ioh 10. 14 27 2 The foundation of God remaineth sure and hath this seale The Lord knoweth who are his Timo. 2. 19. Because we haue the thing it selfe the invisible Church deciphered by examples in the holy Scriptures 1 For a long time hath Israel beene without the true God and without priest to teach and without law but there Christ was not altogether deprived of his Spouse but though the ministerie were corrupted he had his invisible Church 2. Chron. 15. 3. 4. 2 I will leaue vnto me saith the Lord seven thousand men in Israel which haue not bowed the knee vnto Baal 1. Ki. 19. 18. But this company could not then be perceived with bodily eyes but was invisible and only knowne vnto God as is gathered out of verse 10 and 14. â— At the time of Christs comming into thâ— world when the publick Ministerie of the Word was corrupted God had his inuisible Church Marie Ioseph Zacharie Elizabeth the wise men that came froÌ„ the East Simeon
Anna c. He is not a Iewe which is one outward neither is that Circumcision which is outward in the flesh But he is a Iewe which is one within and the circumcision is of the hart whose praise is not of meÌ„ but of God Rom. 2 28 29. Now how God in the time of Poperie the publick Ministerie of the word being corrupted had his inuisible Church is thus declared There were a coÌ„pany of baptized Infants which were a great part of the Church but Note By this declaration it appeares tâ—at we doe not condemne our godly ancestours who liued in the time of Poperie the Church was neuer at any time without baptized children seeing that Baptisme euen vnder the raigne of Antichrist remained in the Church There were alwaies godly intelligeÌ„t meÌ„ which gaine-said the Pope sometimes openâ—y sometimes secretly See the booke intiâ—uled Catalâ—gus testium veritatis and those who gaine-said him had them which approâ—ed their iudgement although by reason of the tyrannie of the Bishops of Rome they durst not openly make profession thereof There were also many simple men whose harts were more pure thaÌ„ were the mouthes of their teachers The simpler sort had the chiefe fundamentall points of Christian Religion in the Lords praier the Creede and the ten Commaundements whereby they might bee instructed to a true faith a right inuocating of God and an holy life They heard the Passion of Christ read out of the stories of the Euangelists as also the rehearsing of the Gospels They might therfore out of the text neglecting the glosses of their Preachers learn those things which are necessarie to saluation They confirmed their faith by receauing the holy Supper of the Lord which though it was maimed of the one kinde the cup being quite taken froÌ„ them yet were not they in fault who were coÌ„strained to endure that tyrannie The Masse and other idolatrous seruice by the speciall prouidence of God were celebrated in the Latine tongue for which cause the Lay people were the lesse partakers of their idolatrie which vnderstoode not what was done They had Christ the foundation It is credible therefore that in their agonie the stubble that was built vpon the foundation was consumed but theÌ„selues saued as it were by the fire of tentation tribulation 1 Cor. 3. Contrariwise our Aduersaries reason 1 Yee are the light of the World a City that Note 〈◊〉 this 〈◊〉 our Aduersaries should proue that the church is onely visible but they proue nothing els but that the church is visible which is not questioned is set on an hill cannot be hid also no man lighteth a candle and putteth it vnder a bushell c. Mat. 5 14 15. therefore the Church is visible Ans 1. I graunt the whole reason if by the Church be meant the externall publick Ministerie 2 It is a fallacie from that which is spoken in some respect to the same taken absolutely for in that the Church is said to be visible that is true in some respect onely that is not in respect of the inward man but of the outward publick Ministerie 2 That the Church is visible and that the Church is inuisible be contradictories therefore if it be granted that the Church is visible the inuisible is ouerthrowne Ans Contradictions are not vnlesse they be spoken of the same things and in the same respect but that Church is called visible in one respect and inuisible in another for it is visible in respect of the externall companie of them that heare the Word and vse the Sacraments but it is inuisible in respect of the inward man and true faith which is knowne to God alone as before I said 3 Vnlesse the Church bee visible there will not bee an apparent and free accesse to the Church for any man which ought notwithstanding continually to be so Answer 1. There is an equiuocation in the worde Church First it is taken for the publick Ministerie of the Word and Sacraments and so I grant the whole reason Secondly it is taken for those which doe truly beleeue the Word and rightly vse the Sacraments and so the conclusion is to be denied 2 By that which hath beene saiâ— it appeareth that the Antecedent speaketh of the former the consequent of the later acceptioÌ„ of the Church and so there bee foure termes in the Syllogisme 4 Christ bids vs heare the Church Matthew 18. Which if it bee inuisible cannot bee found out Answer 1. I answere to this reason as to the former 2 Our Aduersaries haue more in the conclusion than in the premisses For thus much followeth that there is a certaine visible church or that in some meaning the church is visible but that there is onely a visible Church there is neuer a word in the place cited 5 The Fathers did oppose the authoritie of the visible Church against Heretikes therefore there must needes be a visible Church Ans 1. It is a fallacie supposing that for a cause which is not For they did not oppose the authority of the Church against the Heritikes for that it was either visible or inuisible but because at that time it preserued the sacred bookes and the sincere profession of the Doctrine 2 Neither did the Fathers seeke to represse the Heritikes by the onely authoritie of the Church but stroue against them with the authoritie of the Scripture Question 3. Whether the Church may erre Our Aduersaries denie it hoping that if it appeare as in truth it doth that the Church in ancient times was at Rome and if that the Church cannot erre that they shall easily without any adoe free themselues from all crime of falshoode by the bare name of the Church being free from all errour But we denie it for these reasons Because the promises of preseruing the purity of the Church are conditionall and not absolute as if yee continue in my word yee are verily my Disciples Ioh 8. 31. Because where the thing doth testifie the contrarie there no plea hath place But we haue examples ready at hand both in the olde and new Testament that the Church hath erred 1. The Church of the olde Testament aâ— concerning the publick Ministerie hath often erred as in the Wildernes when iâ— worshipped the Calfe in the time of the Iudges it oftentimes fell away from the true seruice of God The like happeneâ— vnder the gouernment of King Ahab iâ— the time of Ieremie and of Christs comming in the flesh 2. In the new Testament the Church erred 1 In the Church of Corinth many doubted of the Resurrection of the dead 2 The Galathians swarued from the Apostolick doctrine of Paul in the article of Iustification 3 The Church of Pergamus fauoured the Nicholaitans Reuelation 2 15. 3. At this day the Church of Rome doth erre in many things which hereafter shall be made to appeare as cleare as the noon day The particular members of the Church are not free from error as it is plaine that Peter
erred Galath 2 11 14. All admonitions and predictions of the changes of the Church of taking heede of 1 Iohn 2 18 c 1 cor 11 1â— Math 7. 15 Act â—0 28 29 c 2 Thessal â— 2. 15. false teachers of diligent keeping of sound doctrine c were friuolous superfluous if â—t were impossible that the church shold err And why aboue all other Churches the Church of Rome whereof we now treate â—hould haue this speciall priuiledge that it â—annot erre there is not one sillable or title in â—he holy Scriptures Contrariwise our Aduersaries reason thus 1 The Church is the pillar and ground of truth 1 Timothie 3. 15. Therefore it cannot erre and consequently the Church of Rome neuer did erre An. 1. There are heer foure terms because the Antecedent speakes of the true Church in which alone is Saluation to bee had and which is the keeper of the writings of the Prophets and Apostles but the consequent speaketh of the Church of Rome which is indeede the company and Church of Babilon 2 It is a fallacie from that which is spoken but in some respect onely to the same taken absolutely Because the Church is the pillar and ground of truth that is so long as it maintaineth the truth followes the direction of Gods word But and if it swarue aside from the word of God it can no longer be called the pillar of truth 2 Christ promised to the Church the Spirit of truth Iohn 14 16 17 Therefore the Church cannot erre Answer 1. This promise did principallie pertaine to the Apostles in whom it was most exactly fullfilled and secondarily to the Church which holdeth the doctrine of the Apostles such as the Church of Rome is not at this day 2 It followeth not the holy ghost was given to the Church therefore the Church shall retaine it forever Or the spirit was given to the Church therefore the Church dooth alwaies follow the direction and guiding of the Spirit For neither did Christ so promise his holy Spirit that needs it must abide with the Church howsoever the Church behaue it selfe and turne aside from the revealed Word of God For so the Church of the Galatians coulde never haue been seduced 3 Christ prayed for the Church Father sanctifie them with thy truth c Ioh 17 17. therefore it cannot err Ans 1 Here bee foure termes The Antecedent speakes of the companie of the Elect or the inuisible as is plaine by the whole text the consequent of the visible Church 2. It is a fallacie from that which is spoken but in some respect to the same taken absoly For Christ speakes so adding withall a condition Thy Word is truth Therefore this promise is tyed to the obseruance of that worde as to a certaine condition 4 My Spirit which is vpon thee and my words which I have put in thy mouth shall not depart out of thy mouth nor out of the mouth of thy seede from henceforth for euermore Isai 59 21. Ans 1 If this promise had beene made without condition then it would follow that God had not kept his promise For these words doe immediately goe before They shall feare the name of the Lord from the West and his glory from the rising of the sunne or the East but the Easterne Churches have had a most miserable downe-fall long agoe This promise therefore is condtionall as if God should say I will not forsake thee for ever if thou forsake not me It is therefore a fallacy from that which is spoken but in some respect to the same taken absolutely 2 This promise belongeth to the Church which obeieth the word of God vnto which God will never be wanting with his spirit 5 The Comforter shall abide with you for ever Ioh 14 16. therefore the Church of Rome cannot erre Ans 1 What agreement is there between the Apostles witnesses against whom no exception can be taken the present Church of Rome as now it is vnder the kingdome of the Pope which differeth so much from the Church which Paul taught at Rome as light dooth from darkenesse 2 There is no good consequence from that which is spoken indefinitely to the same spoken definitely or determinately but in the Antecedent the speech is indefinite in the consequent definite There be therfore in this reason foure termes 6 Christ sayth that hee will abide with his Church vntil the end of the World Mat 28 20. Therefore the Roman Church cannot erre Simil. The Husband promised that hee would bee faithfull to his wife all his life loÌ„g therefore she caâ—not become an adultere Ans 1 There is more in the conclusion than in the Premisses for it followeth not Christ remaineth with his Church therfore the Church can in nothing swarue from Christ 2 Besides the Argument is from that which is spoken indefinitely to the same taken definitely 3. And there bee foure termes For Christ speakes of the true Church wherewith the present Church of Rome to which our Aduersaries wrest this promise hath no agreement besides the bare and naked name onely 7 The gates of Hell shall not overcome the Church Mat 16 18. Ans 1 Heere bee foure termes In the Antecedent the Church is meant which is built vpon Christ his Word and SacrameÌ„ts but in the consequent such a Church is meant as is built vpon the Pope and Traditions of men 2 As long as the Church remaineth vpon this Rocke that is Christ it is inuincible but not so if it make defection from the Gospell of Christ CHAP 8. Of the Bishop of Rome THe Papists being driven from their holds which have now beene treated of doe flee to the authoritie of the Pope as to a sure sacred anchor For they imagine 1 that Christ appointed Peter as his Vicar in the Church 2. And gave vnto him both the dominioÌ„ over the whole Church and also the dominion of faith 3 that Peter was Bishop at Rome and gave the same authoritie of dominion to that sea or place 4 That the Bishops of Rome are his successours both in Power and Office And that therefore whatsoeuer proceedes out of their mouth of any point of Religion must needes be infallibly true and that all the faithfull or all Christians are bound to obey them From this rope platted of sand arise moreover these questions 1 Whether Christ have need of any such Vicar on earth 2 Whether Christ gave Peter authority power whereby he should beare rule over the rest of the Apostles and have the dominion of faith 3. Whether Peter were at Rome and did there constitute this order 4 Whether the Bishops of Rome be the successors of Peter the Apostle Question 1 Whether Christ have neede of any visible head or Vicar in his Church on Earth The Papists affirme and wee denie it for these reasons Christ had ill provided for his Church if he had ordained a man vniversall Vicar which might erre as beeing a man as
Peter also erred Galat 2 11 14. Neither could be present in all places Christ only is the head of the Church Eph. 1 22 4 15. But the Church is not a two headed monster The Heavenly Father commended onely Christ vnto vs that wee should heare him Matt 17 5. Contrariwise our Aduersaries reason 1 From a similitude A Prince that goes into an other Countrey hath neede to leave some man behinde him furnished with full and absolute power so wee must beleeve that Christ did when he was to depart from vs. Ans Heere be manie falshoods and ridiculous toyes 1 Similes doe some times illustrate but never prove 2 If it were never so true that Christ had appointed a Vicar yet it would not follow that the Pope should be hee 3 Neither is there absolute authority such as is falsely ascribed to the Pope granted to anie vicar but authoritie onely which is bounded and limited by lawes 2 It is needefull that some one watch for the whole Church Ans 1. Christ watcheth for the whole and for the parts and speciall members let everie Bishop watch amongst his Clergie 2. It is a thing impossible that anie one man should watch over and for the whole this reason therefore supposeth an impossibility 3 In the olde Testament God appointed a Vicar in deciding controversies to wit the high Priest that hee might bee a visible head in the Church Deut 17. An 1 They argue from a type the signification whereof was accomplished ended in Christ to the Pope Which maketh foure termes in the Syllogisme for the high Priest was not the type of the Pope â—ut of Christ 2 The Priest was Iudge in civill affaires between bloud and bloud c therefore from civill affaires to Ecclesiasticall no good consequence can be drawen vnlesse perhaps from the type of Christ to the Pope 4 It is needefull that there should be some Vicar of Christ to interprete coÌ„troversies which arise or fall out in the holy Scriptures Ans If this were granted to bee never so true which yet may not be granted it wold not therefore follow that the Pope should be that interpreter 2. The Holy Ghost sendeth vs back to the Scriptures which is that our firme word of the Prophets 2 Pet 1 19. 3 Wee doo not reiect anie Interpreter which shall speake according to the law and the testimonie that is which shall interprete the Scriptures according to the Analogie of faith But the Pope will never suffeâ— himselfe to be tyed to this condition 5 It is certaine there should be one and a certaine visible heade for the preseruing of the vnitie of the Church Ans 1 Christ is that heade which governeth his Church by the Ministerie of the Word and Sacraments to whom whosoever joyneth himself is made one bodie with the Church vnder one head 2 The Pope draweth vs from this vnitie whilest he sends vs away from the Scripture to the closer of his breast which doth very often crosse the holy Scripture directly 6. A Monarchie is the best state of gouernment but we must thinke that the Church is to haue the best state of gouernment therefore a Monarchie Ans 1. As concerning a visible head there â—s great difference betweene Ciuill and Ecclesiasticall gouernment And Christ himâ—elfe sheweth a very great vnlikenes between â—hem when he saith The Kings of the Genâ—iles raigne ouer them but you shall not be so Luk 22 25 26. 2 But as concerning an inâ—isible head we haue Christ the only true Monarch of his Church 7 In the Church all things ought to bee done Corinth 1. 14 40. â—â— order but all Ecclesiasticall Order is contaiâ—ed vnder the Pope Ans In the Antecedent proposition Paul â—eats not of the order of inferiour or superiâ—ur persons but of the outward order of Ceremonies which is to be obserued in the â—ssembly of the Church for comlinesse sake Such an order euery Church ought to obserue as the circumstances of time person and place shall require though they submit not themselues to the yoke of the Bishop of Rome The alleadging therfore of that saying of Paul makes nothing at all for the establishing of the Monarchie of the Bishop of Rome and so heere be foure termes in this argument Question 2. Whether Peter receiued 1 power of Dominion ouer the rest of the Apostles and 2 the dominion of faith We denie both and first we denie that Peter receiued Dominion ouer the other Apostles for these reasons Because it is no where taught in the holy Scriptures Because Peter doth no where testifie that hee receiued such power but behaued himselfe as equall to the rest in power 1. I which am a fellow-elder Consenior and witnes of the sufferings of Christ 1 Pe. 5 1. 2. Not as Lords ouer gods heritage but that yee may be ensamples to the flocke 3. Therefore he suffered himselfe to be sent of the other Apostles into Samaria with Iohn as his fellow equall Act. 8. 14. 4. He suffers himselfe to be accused for that hee had gone in vnto the Gentiles as being their equall cleareth himselfe before them Act 11. 2 3 c. 5. Hee endured himselfe to be reproued of Paul Galat 2 11 14. 6 Who is Paul who is Apollo 1 Cor 3 5 which wordes doe shew that there was no authoritie no superioritie among the Apostles one ouer another 7. When Iames and Cephas Iohn knew Note 1. Paul placeth Iameâ— in the first place 2 Hee saith not pillar but pillars 3. Hâ— calleth theÌ„ fellows of the grace of God that was giuen vnto me which are counted to be pillars they gaue to mee and to Barnabas the right hands of fellowship c Galat 2 9. Christ saith the Kings of the Gentiles raigne ouer them but yee shall not bee so Luk 22 25 26. When the Apostles stroue for superioritie Christ neuer preferred Peter but exhorted all and so Peter also to equalitie humilitie Contrariwise our Aduersaries doe reason 1. Math 10 2. Where the Apostles are reckoned vp in order Peter is said to be the first Ans There bee foure termes in the Antecedent the word first is taken for the order of counting or reckoning and in the Consequent for the order of dignitie or authoritie 2 Thou art Peter and vpon this rocke I will build my Church therefore Peter is the foundation of the Church and thereupon hath power ouer the rest Ans It is a fallacie of Composition because in the Papists argument those thinges iointly are spoken of Peter which Christ spoke distinctly and seuerally of himselfe of Peter 2 Because Christ spoke to all the Apostles vnder the person of Peter it would follow arguing as the Papists doe that euerie one of the Apostles was the Prince of the Apostles Nowe what an absurditie were this 3 Christ saith to Peter feede my sheepe c. Ioh 21 17. Therefore hee made him head of the Apostles Ans 1. Heere is the changing of an
propitiatorie sacrifice in the supper 5 Paul bids vs to shew the Lords death not to represent it by a stagelike spectacle not to sacrifice 1 Cor. 11 26. For to shew the Lords death and to sacrifice are things altogether different The doctrine of the propitiatorie sacrifice of the Masse dooth twhart the perfect satisfaction of Christ For if CHRIST haue satisfied for the sinnes of al men with one sacrifice once offered and that propitiation of his bee sufficient what neede is there so often to iterate a propitiatory sacrifice in the Masse 1 Hee Christ not the masse is the propitiation or reconciliation not onely for our sins but also for the sins of the whole world 1 Ioh. 2 2. 2 And therefore vpon the crosse he cryed It is finished Ioh 19 30. But the masse twharteth also the priesthood The Priesthoode of Christ is not commō to him with anie man of Christ 1 For Christ alone could offer himselfe for a propitiatorie sacrifice neither could any man offer vp Christ but hee himselfe alone Therefore Popish priests vnlesse they willingly say that they are new Christs can not offer a propitiatorie sacrifice 1 Christ did it once when hee offered vp himselfe Hebr 7. 27. 2 Not that hee should offer himselfe often Heb. 9 25. 3 Otherwise the masse-priestes should bee Priests after the order of Melchifedech which agreeth to Christ alone 4 Neither doth anie man take vnto himselfe this honour but hee that is called of God as was Aaron So likewise Christ tooke not to himselfe this honour to be made the high Priest but he that sayd vnto him c Thou art a Priest for euer after the order of Melchifedech Heb 5. 4 5. c. 2 It is repugnant also to the doctrine of the Priesthood of Christ in respect of the perfect and plenarie sacrifice which is not to be iterated For herein is the priesthood of Christ opposite to the Priesthood of the olde Testament that the sacrifices thereof ought to bee iterated but the sacrifice of Christ had no neede to bee iterated 1 Christ needed not daily as those high Priests of the olde Testament to offer vp sacrifice for his owne sinnes and then for the peoples for that did hee once when he offered vp himselfe Heb. 7. 27. 2. The lawe having the shadow of good things to come and not the very image of the things can never with those sacrifices which they offer yeere by yeere continually sanctifie the commers thereunto for would they not then haue ceased to haue beene offered c. Heb. 10. 1. 2. 3. After hee had saide This is the Testament that I will make with them c. and their sinnes and iniquities will I remember no more Now where remission of these things is there is no more offering for sin Heb. 10. 16. 17. 18. 4. Christ by his own bloud entered once into the holy place and obtained eternall redemption for vs not such a redemption as is to be iterated every day Hebrewes 9. 12. 5. Not that hee should offer himselfe often as the high Priest entred into the holy place every yeere with other bloud for then must he haue often suffered since the foundation of the world but now in the end of the world hath hee appeared once to put away sinne by the sacrifice of himselfe And as it is appointed vnto men Once to die and then commeth the iudgment So Christ was once offred to take away the sins of many Heb. 9 25 26. c. 6. By the which will we are sanctified even by the offering of the body of Iesus Christ once made Heb. 10. 10. 7. And every Priest namely of the olde If our Adversaries say that they offer the same onely sacrifice of Christ here let them see that there is not granted an iteration of the same sacrifices in the new testament Testament appeareth daily ministring oft times offereth one maner of sacrifice which can never take away sinnes but this man after he had offered one sacrifice for sinnes sitteth for ever at the right hand of God c. For with one offering he consecrated for ever them that are sanctified Heb 10. 11. 12. c. The sacrificing Priests do daily as much as in them lieth kill and crucifie Christ in the Masse wherefore the Popish Masse is so much the more abhominable which is indeede harsh to mans eares but that it is true will appeare by the places of Scripture following 1. Without shedding of bloud is no remission Heb 9 22. 2. Where a Testament is there must be the death of him that made the testament Heb 9 16. 3. If Christ must bee often offered then should he haue often suffered Hebrewes 9 26. The Masse was vnknowne in the primitiue Church for some certaine ages as shall afterward bee declared in particular and as Maister Valentine Vannius hath proved in a severall booke published and to this day never touched by any of the Aduersaries Many Massing ceremonies were of a certaine blinde zeale brought in out of the olde Testament shadowes forsooth mingled with the light Contrariwise our Aduersaries doe dispute 1. It is needfull that the Church haue some visible sacrifice to helpe mans infirmitie withall Ans 1 No man denies that we need visible helps for the strengthening of our faith but to faine choose and appoint such sacrifices is not in our power but belongeth to God alone 2. Such visible helps and staies of our faith God hath given vs in the Sacraments wherewith it is meete wee should rest content and not frame new ones at our owne pleasure 2 Euery Priest is taken from among men c. that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for men Heb. 5. 1. Therefore it is needfull that the Priests of the Church haue some thing which they may offer to God for sinnes Ans 1. If the Apostle in this place had compared together the Priests of the olde Testament and the Priests of the newe Testament then the argument would followe But he makes the comparison betweene the Priests of the olde Testament and the Priest Iesus Christ which was prefigured by them This then is all that followeth that it was necessarie that Christ should offer some sacrifice for our sinnes And so there is more in the conclusion than in the premisses 2 Wee doe not reade any where in the newe Testament that there were Priests appointed who should offer visible sacrifices but there were ordained Ministers of the word and Gospell 3. Wee haue an Altar Hebrewes 13 10. therefore it is necessarie that we haue oblations also and sacrifice Ans 1. This is a Paralogisme of all Particulars thus In our Altar which is spirituall is required a sacrifice therefore it can bee no other sacrifice but that of the Masse 2 It is a fallacie from that which is spoken but in some respect to the same taken absolutelie for the Apostle doth not simply speake of euery sort of sacrifice but treateth expreslie