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A20001 A summarie ansvvere to al the material points in any of Master Darel his bookes More especiallie to that one booke of his, intituled, the Doctrine of the possession and dispossession of demoniaks out of the word of God. By Iohn Deacon. Iohn Walker. Preachers. Deacon, John, 17th cent.; Walker, John, preacher. aut 1601 (1601) STC 6440; ESTC S109440 212,590 277

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Orthodoxus And he that knoweth not Christ what faith or hope hath he in Christ Ambrose yeelding a reason why Peter after his fall did not speake but weepe saith thus Peter doth not now vse speech by the which he had lied by the which he had sinned by the which he had lost his faith And againe Peter became more faithfull after he had bewailed the losse of his faith By all the premisses then it is very apparant that notwithstanding the prayer of Christ the Apostles faith it might and did faile at some time in doctrine and iudgement and therefore much more in the working of miracles Exorcistes This in my opinion is a dangerous point For if it be fully concluded that the Apostles at some time both might and did also erre in their iudgement concerning some points of doctrine then how may wee be certaine which of their writings must be held for infallible truths Orthodoxus Surely euen all those their writings whatsoeuer which the holie Ghost did leade them into those are the onely infallible truths of the spirit of truth But such only are all those which their master Christ had taught them before for the testimonie of Iesus is the spirit of prophesie and none other truths then those which Iesus before had testified to them were they led into by the spirit of truth Those their testimonies therefore what or how many soeuer they are to be esteemed as authenticall and infallible truths Al other their testimonies which only but slipped from humane infirmities how glorious soeuer in shew as they are not the testimonie of Iesus and therefore not the spirit of prophesie so are they in euery place of the Bible all tainted and branded for errors or vntruths by the spirit of truth as wee shewed before For howsoeuer the Apostles themselues were subiect to errors yet could they not possiblie erre so long as they onely but heard the voyce of Christ their Master and Shepheard and but followed the only directions of the spirit of truth Againe howsoeuer some one of them at some time and in some speciall point both might and did erre as hath been declared yet al their whole Colledge or companie it did not nor could not possiblie erre But euermore the light of truth was cleerely conserued in some of their mindes to discouer the clowdes of darknes which shadowed the rest and to propagate the light of the truth to all posteritie in which onely respect they are purposely called the lights of the world the foundations and pillars of truth Besides that the Apostles they did neuer vniuersallie erre I meane their faith neuer failed in all the parts of Christian doctrine howsoeuer some of them at some one time or other might happily swarue in some certaine point Moreouer they did neuer decline from the foundation it selfe because then they could not haue been the true Church of Christ which must necessarily bee builded vpon Christ the head corner stone and therefore they euermore held the foundation fast Briefly the Apostles faith it neuer finally failed for howsoeuer they at some times stragled aside through humane frailtie yet were they in time recalled from their errors as may plainly appeare For not only they all returned to Christ so soone as he was risen from death but which more is they first acknowledged themselues and then taught soundly to others the state of Christs kingdome And Peter being reprooued of Paul did willingly yeeld vnto him and Iohn staied himselfe vpon the Angels admonition from offering worship vnto him and the Apostles with the brethren being taught the truth reioyced greatly that God had granted the Gentiles also repentance to life and saluation Yea and in this their sound conuersion is fully performed that which was promised before by Christ when he said vnto Peter vpon that his worthie confession of faith Thou art Peter and vpon this rocke will I build my Church and the gates of hell shall neuer preuaile against the same Marke the words the gates of hel they shal not preuaile against the Church that is they shall not be of a preuailing strength for so much the word importeth They shall then be of strength against the Church but they shal not preuaile by their strength no albeit their said strength bee as strong as holds as the Apostle elsewhere doth purposely call them yet are they not preuailing holds For the elect and chosen of God may take a fall at some time but fall finally away they can neuer Perhaps at some time they build straw or stubble yet they build on the foundation and the foundation is Christ. The sheepe of Christ may eftsoones goe astray in the wildernes but perish they cannot because none shall euer be able to plucke them forth of the true shepheards hands The prodigall sonne may happily at sometime goe away from his fathers house but he shall be made to returne againe and be no lesse fauourablie entertained of his father then hee was before The faith of Peter himselfe did euen swoune as we say but finally it failed him not He was turned away from the Lord whom hee also denied but hee returned againe to the Lord with the bitter teares of repentance Briefly the faithfull they are oft times very shrewdly pressed with many and mightie enemies howbeit they are neuer suppressed It is certaine therefore that the elect and chosen albeit they be made the children of God by adoption yet are they subiect to errors and slips Howbeit on the other side they are subiect so as they are freed from the guilt of error by Christ and accepted as holie in the sight of God because they are holie in part I am blacke O ye daughters of Ierusalem saith the Spouse yet am I comely as the tents of Kedar yet as the hangings of Salomon Yea further the bridegrome he saith she is faire nay which more is that she is the fairest but yet the fairest of women not simply the fairest but in comparison of women but in respect of earthly creatures To teach the Church thereby least happily she grow proude of her borrowed beautie that so long as she liueth in this tabernacle of the bodie she goeth on towards but is not yet come to the perfection of fairenes and therefore that she is not faire altogether though she be therefore commended for her fairenesse because she walketh after the spirit not after the flesh So then to conclude this point sith it is apparantly euident by all the premisses that the Apostles faith it might and did sometimes faile in doctrine or iudgement yea euen since that very time they were filled with the spirit therefore it is likewise apparantly euident that their said faith it might much more faile in the working of miracles Exorcistes Their faith neuer failed in the working of miracles since that time especially they were filled with