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A26927 Fair-warning, or, XXV reasons against toleration and indulgence of popery with the Arch-bishop of Canterbury's letter to the King and all the bishops of Irelands protestation to the Parliament to the same purpose : with an answer to the Roman-Catholicks reasons for indulgence : also the excellent reasons of the Honourable House of Commons against indulgence, with historical observations thereupon. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1663 (1663) Wing B1263; ESTC R15222 25,663 47

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the Popes is infallible when sometimes one Pope disannulleth what another decreed 7. When there are many Popes at once as there have been they must know which is the Infallible 8. They must be sure at this distance that the Cardinals consecrated him who is now in the seat they must know in England that they have the right decree of the Pope or travel so many miles to him themselves and the right meaning of them c. will you O gracious Prince give up the peoples Souls that are under you to these infinite doubts and scruples which it is impossible for any to be satisfied in will you not keep them to the Sure word of prophecy To which they do well to take heed as to a light shining in a darke place Reason 7. The greatest novelty and Schisme in the world is not to be Tolerated Popery is the greatest Schisme and novelty in the world So great a Schisme that separate from all the world and damne all the world So great a novelty that we have no footsteps of it in the Scripture which is the reason why they would not have us read the Scriptures will you Indulge novelties O ye the defenders of the Faith Once delivered to the Saints Will you allow them amongst us whose business it is to perswade the world that you and we are damned Reason 8. Nothing is to be Tolerated that is directly contrary to the word c. For therefore indeed Kings are commanded to read the word of God that they may suffer nothing that is contrary to the word you can do nothing against the truth but for the truth you are to be a terror to them that do evil against the word and an Incouragement to them that do well according to that word we pray four you that are in authority that we may lead peaceable quiet lives in all godlinesse according to the word of God and honesty according to the Laws of men how can you stand by and see the Communion and administred in one kind against the Institution of Christ which is Eat ye all of this drink ye all of this How can you stand by and look upon them serving or rather mocking God in an unknown tongue in dispight of the Apostolical injunction 1 Cor. 14. will you allow men a liberty to choose whether they will read the Scripture when you know that these things are written that ye might beleive that beleiving ye might have life through his name will you suffer them that say rend not these holy Scriptures least they destroy your faith and bring you to damnation when you know that whatsoever things are written are written for our learning that we through the comforts of the Scriptures might have hope What shall I do saith the man in the Gospel that I may inherit eternal Life Our Saviour answereth what is written in the Law how readest thou What sins will you punish O you Kings 1. If you wink at them that vilifie Gods words us obscure or insufficient for Salvation even the late times of liberty denied liberty to them that denied the Scripture 2. That presume to alter the express Institutions of God 3. That forbid the reading of the Scripture the only way of Life Lord what shall not be allowed if these men be allowed Reason 9. Idolatry is not to be Tolerated What have we to do any more with Idols Popery is Idolatry c. can you have the patience to see the Creature worshiped instead of the Creaor is not your spirit stirred within you to see men change the truth of God into a Lye and worshipping and serving the Creature more than the Creator God blessed for ever do you not know that this sin overthrew Princes over turned Kingdomes and hath the wrath of the jealous God who will not give his honour to another allwayes attending it If you forbid not their sin you commit it and if you partake of their sins you will partake of their Plagues Hath God honoured you O ye excellent Princes and will you see him thus dishonored hath he exalted you and will you see him thus debased would you see an Usurper upon your Throne and can you endure stocks and stones in Gods house he that honoureth God God wil honour he that dispiseth him shall be lightly esteemed shall Darius make a decree for all people nations and Languages that dwell on the Earth that all men should tremble and fear only before the living God And shall Christian Kings endure other Gods should be worshipped How can you endure to see men falling down before the works of mens hands O remember that Rev. 2.10 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee because thou hast suffered that woman Iesabel which calleth her self a Prophetess to teach and to seduce my servants to commit Fornication and to eat things sacrificed to Idols I have a few things against thee because thou hast there them that hold the Doctrine of Baalam who taught Balac to cast a stumbling-block before the Children of Israel to Eat things sacrificed unto Idols and to commit Fornication Reason 10. That Religion which destroyeth all civil Government is not to be Tolerated shall Princes wink at their own ruine Popery destroyeth all civil Government Kings have no more power subjects owe no more duty then the Pope is pleased to grant the one and enjoyn the other shall we admit these among us that upon all occasions let loose the people to cut one anothers Throat and to destroy their soveraigns who then may be safely the Prince must dayly look for poison and daggers The people for Massacres and cruelties all for dangerous attempts against the Lord and against his Annoynted who embroyled us in the late War was it not Papists upon what principle did we Rebel kill and take possession but upon the principles of popery if they did such mischief when checked and awed by Laws what will they do when tolerated shall a Protestant Prince countenance them that may in conscience be bound to kill them as Hereticks shall the Prince look upon them as subjects who may upon the least occasion be absolved by the Pope from all fealty and Allegiance to the great danger of the Kingdom if they are Papists they cannot be indulged for they are not subjects if they are Protestants they need not be Indulged for they are and will be obedient and faithful subjects as whole Profession states the Rightly of civil Goverment upon the most clear and firm principles secure them by the most powerful obligation and urgeth them upon the most efficatious imotives of reward and punishment in the world shall we allow them that upon ruin of encommunication and damnation may not dare to be faithful who must renounce their Religion i.e. obedience to the Pope that they be Loyal Reason 11. That way must not be tollerated Whose tolleration increaseth our danger and yet lesseneth those Incomes whereby we defrayed the charges of our
your religion if I may so call it is the farthest from that which is styled the old Protestant then from any other way professed and owned in England 4. And is it come to that that you have raised so many Sects among us for the Sects are but your by-blowes that we have but this sad choice left either to be swallowed up by them or to close with you This is plain English 1. Reas. Roman Catholique was the Religion of England a thousand years Ans. the Roman Catholique way was not the Religion of England but the corruption of its Religion these thousand years Although however that 's not the Christian Religion that is of a thousand standing onely our Religion was the Word of God for 1400 years to which the Papist added their Idolatry superstition and tradition these 900. years the Religion of England was alwaies contained in the Lords Prayer the 10 Commandments the Articles of Faith the Doctrine of the Sacraments the Order and Discipline we have now established by Law the corruptions of Rome were only of late brought in upon these foundations and are now removed by Law and really it 's strange that humane corruptions such as Popery is should claim the same right with Gods institution such as Judaism was one institution of God may give place to another by degrees though it give not place to the corruption of men not for an hour We have buried your way in honour our care is how that it rise not again in dishonour As the Primitive Christians suffered that generation of Jews which was bred up in Judaism to continue their own way though they suffered neither Jews nor Gentiles to be bred up in it in the next generation so we used that generation we found here at first very civilly but would not suffer any more to learn that way The Apostles that suffered Jews to practice their way for the present would not suffer them to teach it for the future and we who indulged Papists in the first generation after the Reformation to live in their own perverse way would not allow them to pervert others in the next generation And as we would not force a Heathen as he saith to our way so would we not suffer him to perswade others from our way we would not compel Heathens or Papists who in some places are little better then Heathens to the truth but we would restrain them that they should not seduce others to their errours Reas. But shall the old Protestant who confesseth Rome a true Church and himself derived from her persecute her and call her a Whore let the Presbyterian c. Answ. Let the world know that the old Protestant bears as little honour to the corruptions of Rome as the Presbyterian and that the Presbyterian bears as much honour to the truth of Rome as the old Protestant and that both for we will not by your Artifices be divided any further then needs must own her as a true Church though they do not own her as a corrupued Church They will allow the Church of Rome and they maintain their own here they condemn not them that live in communion with the Church of Rome because they have the foundation of Religion They allow them not the same priviledge with those of their own communion because they build dangerous things upon that foundation we own all Protestants for Christians yet we hang them for murder and felony so we own Papists for Christians yet we punish them for superstition and Idolatry Reason 3. If we acknowledge they have all things necessarie to salvation then we should indulge them An. Indeed you hold as you say the fundamental truth by which men may be saved but you hold likewise some errors in judgement and corruptions in practice contrary to those fundamental truths by which men may be damned we embrace your faith and yet we oppose the heresies you hold contrary to the faith I love a man though I hate his disease I love the Religion of Rome I hate her prophanation of that Religion if any man be saved in Rome it 's by the truths we and you hold in common and not by those abominations we punish in you and we must needs say that we restrain you not as Christians whom we shall see in Heaven one day but as Idolaters and Hereticks whom except you repent we shall never see in Heaven 1 Cor. 6.9 Gal. 5.20 21. 4. Reason We differ but in small questions and opinions c. therefore 1. Answ. If so small the difference between us why so great your cruelty towards us were we burned massacred tortured banished imprisoned famished upon quirkes and differences in words rather then in real points 2. But is the worshipping of Creatures but a quirk●s with you is saying to a peice of bread Thou art God but a trifle and to God Thou art not able to instruct us for salvation without humane tradition but a Toy 5. Reason Because we own one rule of Faith with them that is Scripture and tradition we ought to tollerate them Answ. We disown this reproachful insinuation we own no rule of Faith but the Scripture by which we try all humane writings judging in our selves what is right and though we have the Fathers and the first Councils against you yet we desire nothing but the Scripture for our selves we reverence the practice of the Ancients we walk by the rule of Scripture as we would do as they did so would we walk by the same rule they did 6 Reason The Lutherans agree with the Papasts elsewhere therefore c. Ans. I. How the Lutherans agree with Papists we say not we are sure the Papists agree not with Lutherans what else means the quarrels plots seditions tumults discontents we hear of every day 2. We walk not by example but by rule 3. This favour the Lutherans and Hugonots got by arms and keep by interest before we know how they were used 7. Reason As to what you say of commerce and marriage we establish not our religion upon policie but upon piety we look not what is most advantagious but what is most lawfull although yet it be the interest of forreigners as much to be of our Religion as it is ours to be of theirs the English peace and trade is as much their advantage as theirs is ours as for the Earl of Bristow he told King James and King Charles that for which he was questioned by the Duke of Buckingham in Parliament As for the Earl of Leicester he did a little regard Richleau as he did him and he hath lived to see as great a Cardinal court the English when resolute in their way though never so severe to Catholiques their resolute are fooled the resolved are feared as for the Queen of Bohemia if we had followed Her interest she might have been the greatest Queen in Europe and the Lord would have let the World have seen that it was the highest advantage in the World