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A29753 Quakerisme the path-way to paganisme, or, A vieu of the Quakers religion being an examination of the theses and apologie of Robert Barclay, one of their number, published lately in Latine, to discover to the world, what that is, which they hold and owne for the only true Christian religion / by John Brown ... Brown, John, 1610?-1679.; R. M. C. 1678 (1678) Wing B5033; ESTC R10085 718,829 590

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Christ was not sent to all Universally for he was to reigne over the house of Iacob Luk. 1 13. and was to save his people from their sinnes Mat. 1 21. And that not Possibly only but Really Luk. 1 69 70 71 72 73 74. Which is not verified of all Universally but of all his People who are in due time delivered Actually and Really out of the hands of their enemies and made to serve him without Fear in Holiness and Righteousness and have Actual Remission of their sins through the tender mercy of our God whereby the day spring from on high hath visited them c. vers 74 75 77 78 79. 49. Nor saith he Pag. 70. had the Angels had occasion to have praised said on the earth peace and goodwill towards men Answ. Much lesse had they sung thus if all the salvation that Christ brought with him had been a meer Possibility a may be that might never have been but the ground of the song is clear with us because Christ was certainly to have a Chosen Flock a Redeemed Company out of all the coastes corners of the earth who should be Reconciled unto God and enjoy the fruites of his good will toward them He alleigeth next Christs commission Mark 16 vers 15. to preach the G●spel to every creature adding that of Paul Col. 1 28. But 1. This will no more prove that Christ died for all men than for Devils Beasts for they are creatures 2. Christ's commission now when the partition wall was taken away by the death of Christ Ephes. 2 14. is enlarged He formerly did limite them to the Jewes to the lost sheep of the house of Israel expresly forbad them to go into the way of the Gentiles Mat. 10 5 6. but now he sends them through the World to preach to all Indefinitely without discrimination Mat. 28 19. because the Chosen who were to be brought in by preaching were scattered through the Nations 3. How will this then prove an Universal Redemption when the very enlarging of the commission doth demonstrate the contrary as ●o the ages preceeding the death of Christ the grant of this enlarged commission 4. From the preaching of the Gospel to all indefinitly by Men who know not the hidden Counsels Purposes of God to inferre an Universal Redemption is no rational way of argueing Men must preach to many indefinitly for the Elects sake whom the Lord may have among them as Paul did at Corinth where the Lord had much people Act. 18 10. And sometimes we finde the Lord would not suffer them to preach to some Act. 16 7. 50. But saith he furt●er The Gospel inviteth all will God m●ck any whom he inviteth and calleth to come to him Sure if Christ hath not died for all and made salvation possible to all Ministers should be sent out to mock people when they are sent to command all to beleeve that Christ died for them This is the summe of what he largely discour●eth and is to no purpose for it is founded upon an untruth to wit that the preaching of the Gospel is a commanding of all to beleeve that Christ died for them while as the Gospel commandeth such to whom it is preached to flee to an alsufficient Saviour in the sense of their sin misery conviction of their impotency to save themselves and in the faith that there is not another name given among men by which we must be saved Act. 4 12. And truely this name is an alsufficient name there being herein salvation for all that will come and none by the preaching of the Gospel are debarred who do not by wilful unbeleefe debarre and exclude themselves for thus hath the Lord in his deep wisdome contrived the business And this preaching of the Gospel doth not properly and directly declare the secret purposes of God for secret things belong not to us but unto the Lord our God but those things which are revealed belong to us Deut. 29 vers 29. And the preached Gospel pointeth forth the duty of such to whom it is preached and this word of command is the only Rule of peoples duty and not the hidden and unseen Purposes of God It is true the fixed preaching of the Gospel in a place may say that it is probable God hath some people there and it certainly telleth us that all such as do beleeve the Gospel and obey it shall be saved because of the fixed and indissoluble connexion betwixt that which the Gospel requireth and salvation And though the Lord send his servants upon the same errand that he sent Esaias Chap. 6 9 10. and that Christ himself was sent upon Ioh. 12 37 38 39 40. and Paul Act. 28 25 26 27. we must not say that the Lord is mocking more then that he was mocking Pharaoh when he sent Moses to him commanding him to let the people of Israel go It would become us rather to adore and stoup And this may satisfie for an answere to what he addeth in the end of § 6. Pag. 71. though it be not to the present business But to close this what can all this say for Universal Redemption seing the Gospel the Ministers thereof are not sent to all and every person in every corner of the world and that in all ages 51. He proceedeth Pag. 71. § 7. and tels us That he remembereth not one passage of Scripture where it is said that Christ hath not died for all And it may suffice for answer to tell him that neither do we remember one place of Scripture where it is said that Christ hath died for all men or for all and every man And if he think that the Scripture speaketh this sufficiently by consequence We have showne above that the Scripture saith sufficiently by consequence that Christ did not die for all but for a select company He citeth 1 Tim. 2 1 3 4 6. as did the Pelagians of old as August sheweth lib. 4 contra Iul. c. 8. Enchir. adlaur c. 103. lib. de Corrept Gratia c. 14. all the Arminians of late And after some discourse hereupon he reasoneth thus therefrom Pag. 72. For whomsoever we may pray to him salvation is possible But me may pray for Salvation to every one in the world Therefore salvati●n is possible to every one The assumption he should have said the Proposition I prove thus No man is obliged to pray nor may he pray for that which is impossible But every man is commanded to pray for all Therefore it is not impossible Againe No man is bound to pray but in faith But he who prayeth for what is impossible cannot pray in faith Therefore Againe what God willeth that is not impossible But God will have all Men to be saved Therefore it is not impossible Finally for whom Christ gave himself a price of redemption to them Salvation is possible But Christ gave himself a price of redemption for all Therefore c. 52.
it is not a mans bare saying or signifying this or that to us which is the Formal Ground of our giving credite thereto but the Truth and Honesty of the Person speaking these words nor is the simple Reading or Making known such or such a Command to us the Formal Ground of our receiving it and of yeelding Obedience thereto as a Law but the Legislative Authority of the Person giving out that Law in such a manner So it was not the Prophets their simple declaration or revelation that did solely ground the peoples Obediential beliefe of what they spoke But the Veracity and Authority of God speaking in and by them Revelation whether to the Immediatly Inspired Holy men of God or by them Mediatly to others was a necessary meane to hold forth the particulars to be believed and obeyed but not the total formal Ground upon which the particulars revealed were to believed and obeyed But this Thus faith Iehovah which was also conveyed unto the people and made known unto them by the Sent Prophets As a mans speaking is a necessary meane to make us know both what he asserts as truth and what he would have us believe upon his report And as Promulgation of lawes is a necessary meane to convey the knowledge of the particular Lawes together with the authority enjoyning them unto the Subjects concerned and cannot be the whole but at most a part of the formal object of faith and Obedience or a natural meanes of the Production of the material Object for whether the Revelation be to be looked upon only as such a means as some or as a part of the formal object as others it is all one against the Quakers and we need not fall upon that debate here But if he understand Both together Then neither can that be the Formal Object of Faith divine as is cleare from what is said It is not from the Revelation simply that such or such a Proposition is true but from the Veracity and Truth of him that maketh the proposition Nor is it from the Promulgation that such or such Words framed into the forme of a Command or Law have the force of a Law but from the legislative Authority of him who giveth forth the command Hence we see That it is all one as to the Formal Object or Ground of Faith and Obedience whether the Revelation be Mediat or Immediat One way or Other providing it hold forth the Proposition to be Believed the Law to be Obeyed as coming from Him who is Truth the undoubted supreame Legislator So that our believing of such or such a Proposition with divine Faith is resolved into this Thus saith Iehovah to us who is Truth it self and cannot lie and our divine Obedience to such or such a Command resolveth into this Thus saith to us and thus commandeth us the Supream Lord and Lawgiver Iehovah here the outward testification or declaration of God is not excluded but included rather 16. That we may not walk in the dark with our confused and confounding Author When he calleth Revelation the Formal Object of Faith I would gladly understand whether by this Revelation he meaneth the Lord's making his minde known unto the Patriarchs or Prophets themselves by Voices Visions Dreames c. Or the Revelation made known by these Prophets or Patriarchs unto the people by vive voice or by writing c or doth he meane Both If he understand the first then he speaketh only of the Formal Object of the Faith of these Patriarchs and Prophets who received these Immediat Revelations from God But I would faine know of him what was the Formal Object of the faith of the people to whom these divinely inspired Patriarchs and Prophets made known these Revelations with a Thus saith the Lord The Revelation made to the Prophets could not be the Formal Object of the Peoples faith because it was a Revelation Immediatly made only unto the Prophets and revealed to the people not Inwardly and Immediatly by Vision or Representation to their mindes or God's Vive Voice to their ears but Mediatly by way of Declaration or Preaching outwardly to their senses by the Prophets If he understand the Second then the Immediat Revelation is not the Formal Object of Faith for the Revelation which they had was Mediat If he mean Both. Then his Thesis is defective and this should also have been mentioned for a Divine Revelation coming to us Mediatly by the ministry of Men divinely inspired may hold forth the Formal Object of faith to us as the Scriptures penned by men immediatly Inspired do now hold forth to us the Formal Object of our Faith for we believe with a Divine Faith what is asserted in them because spoken and delivered to us by the Lord Jehovah who is the God of Truth not Immediatly but Mediatly 17. Upon this ground we see what way to Interpret that word in his Thesis Divine inward revelations are absolutely necessary for Founding of true Faith For it is true Nothing can be received by a true divine Faith but what is delivered by God or revealed by the First and Prime Verity who is Veracity it self yet it is not necessary that this First and Prime Verity reveal his minde Immediatly to every person as if none could be or were obliged to beleeve with a true and divine Faith what God saith but only such as are Immediatly inspired Bec●u●e 1. Then the People of old to whom the Prophets were sent with a thus saith Iehovah might have refuised Faith and Obedience and alleiged that these Revelations were not made to them Immediatly and therefore they were not bound to Believe and Obey them But we finde that the Lord spoke even to the Fathers by the Prophets Heb. 1 1. 2. If this were true then the people of Israel that heard not God speaking from Mount Sinay being borne after that time were not obleiged to receive the Law delivered on Mount Sinay with a divine Faith and yet the word spoken by Angels was stedfast and every transgression disobedience received a just recompence of reward Heb. 2 2. And he that despised Moses's Law though Moses only had that law from God by Immediat Revelation except the Ten words died without mercy Heb. 10 28. 3. Then the Prophets Patriarchs or such as had the Inward and Immediat Revelations could only be guilty of Unbeliefe and Disobedience and not the People to whom they spoke contrare to the wole tenor of the book of the Prophets How then I pray could Sauls disobedience to the command of God by Samuel be as the sin of witch craft 1 Sam. 15 19 23. See Ier. 7 23. and 11 4 7. and 26 13. and 38 20. and 42 13. and innumerable moe places 4. How then could this aggravate their sin that God himself spoke unto them and called upon them by his Prophets Hos. 6 ver 5. Ier. 7 ver 13 25. and 25 ver 3 4. and 35 ver 14 15. and
be the object of an Eternal Ordination When we consider Reprobation in respect of its terminus or thing willed purposed by that act of God we divide it into two parts or say there are two maine things intended purposed presupposing not mentioning what is common both to Election Reprobation as Creation c. as first the denyal of Grace whereby they may be recovered from their state of sin the second is the denyal of Glory or adjudging them to eternal death This last Being for sin a just execution of a righteous sentence is not neither can it be without consideration of sin as the meritorious procuring cause So that to speak properly God doth not damne whom he will Damnation not being an act of meer pleasure but an act of justice conforme to an established Law But the other the denying or not giving of grace is an act of Absolute Freedom Good Pleasure for He hath mercy on whom He will and whom He will he hardeneth Rom. 9 15 18. And as God's granting of grace is an absolute act of his good pleasure free not for any merite or goodness in man as all except Pelagians will confess yea Pelagius himself confessed it at the Synod in Palestine so the Lord 's denying of this g●ace and mercy must be Absolute and not Conditional an act of the Lords free will and good pleasure for the praise of his glory there being no fixed Law constitute by God according to which he bestoweth Grace or bestoweth it not and there being no Reason imaginable why the Lord should conf●rre grace upon Iacob and not upon Esau upon Moses and not upon Pharaoh upon Peter and not upon Iudas beside the good pleasure of God as the Lord did set his love upon the people of Israel because he loved them Deut. 7 6 7. so no cause can be given why he would not have mercy on Pharaoh on Esau on Iudas as well as on others beside his God will and Pleasure who hardeneth whom He will 7. We must therefore in this matter carefully distinguish betwixt Gods Decree and the Things decreed Things decreed may have their Causes and one may depend upon another as on the meritorious procuring cause but the Decree of God is absolute having no dependence upon any thing without being the Absolute and Free act of his Will God may and doth Decree that this shall be because of that and yet because of this he cannot be said to Will that So when the Lord decreeth to damne some persons because of their sins though sin be the procureing meritorious cause of damnation yet it is not the procuring meritorious cause of Gods willing or decreeing to damne Therefore though it be true that God decreeth to save none but such as Beleeve and continue in Faith and Obedience to the end and to damne none but such as are Sinners and Continue in sin to the end yet we must not say that as Faith and Obedience in adult persons do preceed salvation as some way disposeing causes thereunto and as Final Perseverance in sin preceedeth damnation as the meritorious cause thereof so the Foresight of Faith Obedience and Final Perseverance in both preceed election or the decree of God as disposeing causes or prerequisites thereunto and the Foresight of Final Perseverance in sin preceed Reprobation or the decree of God as the meritorious cause thereof for as the purpose of God according to Election is not of works but of him that calleth Rom. 9 11. so the purpose of God according to Reprobation cannot be of works for the children being not yet born neither having done good or evil it was said the Elder shall serve the Younger Rom. 9.11 12. As the potter hath power over the clay of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour and another unto dishonour Rom. 9 21. so the Lord willing to shew his wrath to make his power known may endure with much long-suffering the vessels of wrath fitted to Destruction and he may make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy which he had afore prepared unto glory Rom. 9 vers 22.23 8. As the Scripture holdeth forth Reprobation as we heard and may be further gathered even as to the name from Ier. 6 30. Heb. 6 8. 2 Tim. 3 8. So it holdeth it forth to us sometimes in Negative termes sometimes in Positive termes Hence some speak of a Negative Reprobation called Preterition or passing by which is a real Positive act in God and not purely Negative as some suppose and of a Positive and Affirmative Reprobation which they call Praedamnation By the Negative Reprobation they understand a Positive eternal act of God whereby according to the counsel of his own will he passed by such as he did not Elect and resolved not to give them saving grace whereby they might be delivered from sin as when Ch●ist saith Math. 7 23. I n●ver knew you and Mat. 11 25 26. I thank thee ó Father Lord of heaven and earth because thou hast hid these things from the wise Even so father for so it seemed good in thy sight And when mention is made of some in the Revel Chap 13 ● and 20 15. whose names were not written in the Book of Life And when Christ saith Ioh. 10 26. Yee are not of my sheep By the Positive or Affirmative Reprobation they understand the Lord's positive Resolution according to the unsear●hable counsel of his owne will whereby he ordaineth such as he hath passed by to dishonour and wrath for their sin Hence such are said to be hated Rom. 9 13. to be vessels of wrath fitted for destruction Rom. 9 21 22. to be appointed unto stumbling at the word c. 1 Pet. 2 8. ordained to condemnation Iud. vers 4. to which also belongeth the Lord's just and judicial smiteing with blindeness giving up to a Reproba● minde and to their owne hearts lusts hardening their hearts and the like Rom 1 24 26 28. 9 18. 11 7. Psal. 81 12. 9. Now as touching that question that this Quaker is most busied with viz. Whether Reprobation be absolute and without all respect had to sin or not the Reader may see by what is said what is to be Answered thereunto The Quaker loving darkness speaks undistinctly either because Ignorant of the true question or out of a malicious Designe to render the Truth us for maintaining it odious or both But we shall endeavoure in a few words to clear the mater If we consider the act of Reprobation as in God of whose will it is an Immanent and Eternal act there can be no more cause of it in man or a●y creature than of any other of his decrees which are all one act and so one with Himself Yet this act of Reprobating that is of appointing and designing such or such individual persons to the condemnation of hell for their sinnes can not be said to be as to its
obtaine Reconciliation with God for all sinners whatsomever without any difference before that God would open againe the door of salvation and enter into a new Covenant of grace with sinners But this Reconciliation hath no more force or import but that God might enter againe into a Covenant with sinners and so there is no Actual Reconciliation of sinners unto God And all that is obtained is for God and nothing for man save a Possibility of Salvation by a new Covenant nor are we told whether Christ hath satisfied for the breach of the First Covenant so that sin is fully pardoned unto all or not until the condition of the second Covenant be performed nor are we told upon what account the sins against the second Covenant are pardoned Or if they be unpardonable 6. Others explaine the matter thus Christ died for all and every man not only that God might without any violation of Justice enter into a new Covenant with sinners upon what condition he pleased but that it should be upon this Condition that man should be united with Christ the Cautioner and not only that Redemption and Salvation should be possible to all but that really most certanly Salvation should be bestowed on such as Christ thought good But seing Christ knew that his death would profite none but these few whom he had designed to what purpose should he have laid downe his life for the rest And how can his death be a price of Redemption for the rest How can Christ he said to satisfie for the rest Did he purchase Faith to these few and would he not purchase Faith to the rest and yet lay downe the great price for them What was the end obtained for the rest was it only a Possible Call of all Iustice being satisfied But of what import could that Possible Call be if Salvation was not also possible unto them And whereunto is that Call They will not say it is unto Salvation but to Faith But did not Christ know that this call would not be obeyed by them Did He procure Grace unto them to obey it then he procured Faith and if he procured Faith than he procured Salvation Againe if Iustice be satisfied for these others why are they not liberat If they say the new condition is not fulfilled Then it cannot be simply said that Christ satisfied Iustice on their behalfe for he knew before hand that these would not performe the new Condition how can he then be supposed to die for them notwithstanding 7. Thus we see what Difference is among men that hold Universal Redemption about the Proper and Immediat End and Aime of the purpose of God in sending Christ to die and of Christ in comeing to die and how for the most part it cometh all to little or nothing for it was saith Arminius That God might save sinners what way it pleased Him his Iustice which stood in the way being satisfied or as Corvinus That God might will to save sinners and That Christ intended by his death to make such satisfaction to justice as that he might obtaine to himself power of saving upon what conditions the Father pleased And thus Christ is said to have obtained Reconciliation and Redemption to all not that they should actually be partakers thereof but that God his justice now being satisfied might prescribe a condition which when they had preformed he might and would actually make them partakers thereof Some say that all men are put into a new Covenant in which Adam was a common person as well as in the old by vertue whereof none shall be damned that do not sin actually against the condition and fall thereby from that new state whereunto they are borne And this opinion differeth not much from that of Iacobus Andreae at the conference at M●mpelgard which afterward Huberus maintained as Kimedoncius sheweth in his refutation of the same which was this in short That Christ suffered an● died for all none excepted Effectually and obtained for all a Reconciliation without any respect to Faith or Unbeleefe so that all who receive this Reconciliation and continue in it shall be saved but as to those who refuse it by unbeleef it is made null and they perish Others say That Christ by his satisfaction removed Original sin in all so that all Infants dying in infancy are undoubtedly saved Others that He died for all sinnes alike but conditionally Some say that after the price was payed it was absolutely undetermined what condition should be prescribed so as God might have re-established the Covenant of works Others that the procuring of a new way was part of the fruit of Christ's death As for this condition some say that man can performe it with the help of such meanes as God affordeth to all and thus establish the Diana of Freewill But others assert the necessity of grace flowing from election hereunto and so destroy Universal Redemption which yet they assert So that some say Christ died for all Conditionally if they beleeve making the Act the cause of its own Object for Faith with them is a beleeving that Christ died for them Some say that he died for all Absolutely Yet so as they partake not of the benefite until they performe the condition which was to be prescribed and thus they affirme that Christ did no more sustaine the persons of the Elect than of the Reprobat but of all alike If we enquire therefore what was the Immediat Result and Product of the death of Christ they agree not to tell us whether it was a Power or a Will or a Right to God to save any he pleased 8. However all the Arminians and Camero with them agree in this That Christ did not purchase faith for any and that as to all say some or as to the most part say others Christ hath only procured a Possibility of salvation And what is this Possibility Some call it an Exemption from that necessity of perishing under which they came by the violation of the former Covenant if a satisfaction had not interveened and by this Exemption the say it co●●th to passe that Christ if he will justice being now satisfied may bring all to life And hereby also say they all may be saved if they will But w●at is this else then a meer Possibility What effica●y hath it seing notwithstanding thereof all may perish againe They say it is really Efficacious as to this Possibility which was not before Justice was satisfied But yet notwithstanding of this Efficacious Possibility it might come to passe that not one should have been saved for how can salvation be possible without faith So that if faith be not hereby purchased it would seem that Salvation is not possible And further it doth hereby appear that all which is procured is but some power to God and to Christ But what is mans advantage They say That a way to life is opened unto man that so he may now come to God by Faith and
These sound ill to Christian ears 44. So 33. we may thus reason Either Christ's Redemption is Conditional and Universal as to the Price laid down and Satisfaction made or as to the Application and Actual bestowing of the benefites purchased But neither can be said to the advantage of the Adversaries cause for if the last be said we willingly grant that some of the benefites as Justification Adoption and actuall Glorification are conferred in a manner conditionally but some as faith and the New heart are given absolutely and this cannot help the Adversaries cause for they will not say that either all have faith bestowed upon them or that all are by believing Justified and Adopted c. and so this is not Universall and if the first be said to wit That Christ laid down his life Conditionally it must be said that Christ did not lay down his life Absolutely but upon some condition and what can that Condition be upon which the death of Christ was suspended If it be said that the faith of those to whom it was to be preached was the condition then it must be said that Christ did not die untill these beleeved or that his death was no satisfaction or price untill they actually beleeved and then the Father could not be well pleased with the price as a satisfaction until mens Faith came to make it an Actual price which is both absurd and contrary to Scripture If it be said That Christ did absolutely lay down his life a satisfactory Ransom and that for all yet so as none that would not fulfill the condition should be redeemed I Answer If it was an Absolute satisfactory Ransome and accepted as such something must have been purchased thereby and all behoved actually and really to be delivered from the Law and from the curse or from something by vertue of that Absolute Price and they could not be made to pay over againe what was payed by the price of his blood for Justice could not call for two satisfactions And if all were upon this Absolute Price payed Redeemed from the Law the Curse and the Sentence of the first Covenant no man shall now die for that broken Covenant If it be said No man was Absolutely delivered even from that but only Conditionally I Ans. How then was it an Absolute Price Or what was purchased thereby If it be said That a possibility of Freedom was absolutely purchased Ans. This was rejected above and the Scripture inferreth Actual Redemption from Christs purchase He shall justifie many for he shall bear their iniquities Esai 53 11. which saith That all whose iniquities he did bear shall be Actually and Really Justified by him and not have a meer Possibility of justification 45 Further 34. We may thus argue If Christ died for all and every one He either died for all Absolutely or Conditionally The first cannot be said for the reasons already adduced militate against that Nor can it be said that He died for all Conditionally for then either he died to purchase Life and Salvation to all upon condition of their performance of something proposed as a Condition or to purchase salvation and all the meanes thereunto or conditions thereof Conditionally But neither of these can be said Therefore c. The major is clear from this that the enumeration is full and no other way can this Conditional Redemption be conceived or explained The minor may be thus confirmed The first way cannot be said to wit that life and salvation was purchased to all upon a condition to be by them performed that is upon Condition of their believing for either this Condition is in the power of every son of Adam or not if it be not in their power as all but Pelagians will confess then this Redemption is no Redemption for a Redemption of Captives upon a condition impossible to them is as good as no Redemption Nor can the last way be said to wit that Redemption and all the Conditions and Means thereof were Conditionally purchased for what can be assigned as the Condition of these Conditions And though there were a Condition of the Lords working of faith assigned which yet we finde not in Scripture yet that would not help the matter for that Condition of faith would it self be a mean to salvation and so purchased Conditionally upon another Condition and that other Condition must be purchased upon another Condition and so in infinitum which is absurd 46. As also 35. this is considerable That the asserting of Universal Redemption goeth not alone but there are several other Universalities also affirmed and maintained either as Consequences or Concomitants or Grounds thereof which the Scripture knoweth not such as these 1. An Universal Love and Philanthropie towards all and every one without any difference which they lay down as the ground of the Sending of Christ to die for all indiscriminatly 2. An Universal Will in God to save all which they call an Antecedent Will and hold forth as a Velleity or a wish and desire that all might be saved as if God could not effectuat whatever he desired or could have a velleity towards any thing which either he could not or would not effectuat 3. An Universal Predestination conditional which expression Amerald used untill the Synods in France did disswad him therefrom 4. An Universal gift of all to Christ or an Universal gift of Christ to all that is a Will and purpose that Christ should lay down his life for all and Redeem all at least Conditionally 5. An Universal Justification conditional And why not also an Universal Salvation conditional 6. An Universal Covenant of grace made with all mankinde in Adam wherein is a free universal deed of gift of Christ first and of Pardon Spirit and Glory in and by him to all Mankinde without exception upon condition of acceptance as also an offer of Faith Repentance Conversion with all the con●equ●nces thereof 7. An Universal will in God to call into this Covenant and unto the Participation of the benefites th●reof all and every man 8. An Universal execution of this will or promulgation of this Gospel or New Covenant unto all and every one by common favours and benefites bestowed or all whereby all are called to believe in a merc●ful pardoning God and all have abundance o● Mercies and Meanes of Recovery and of life for the Lord now governeth the world only on termes of grace 9. Upon this followeth an Universal Command to all men to use ce●taine duties and meanes for their Recovery by Faith and Rep●n●ance 10. An Universal pardon of the first Sin so far at least that no man shall perish for the meer Original sin of Nature alone unless he adde the rejection of grace 11 Hence followeth an Universal Judgment and Sentence on all in the great day only according as they have performed the new Gospel conditions 12. Some also adde an ●niversal Subjective Grace whereby all are enabled to performe the conditions of
Yet as the Apostle sayeth concerning God's faithfulness Rom. 3 3 4. for what if some did not beleeve shall their unbeleef make the faith of God of none effect God forbid yea let God be true and every man a liar so say I what if some do not beleeve shall their unbeleefe make the unchangeable Purposes and Intentions of God of none effect No let God be Unchangeable and every man a Changeling and as for Ioh. 3 16. On which our Adversaries build much though this Quaker hath not the wit to improve what they have said the meaning of the place is directly against them for the words run thus in the original 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 i. e. for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that all beleeving or all beleevers or every one that beleeveth in him might n●t perish but have everlasting life So that his death here is manifestly restricked unto Beleevers and if our Adversaries shall prove that either all are or shall be Beleevers we shall easily grant without disput that Christ died for them all And this is further manifest from the preceeding verse unto which this is subjoyned as a Confirmation and connected by the particle 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for there Christ had said that all and every beleever in him should not perish but have everlasting life and vers 14. as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness even so must the son of man be lifted up now lest Nicodemus should suppose that because Christ had made mention of the brazen serpent which Moses lifted up in the wilderness the benefite of which was peculiar to the Jewes that therefore the benefite of Christ's death should re●ound only to the advantage of the beleeving Jewes our Lord sheweth in the proof vers 16. the large extension of the death of Christ to wit that God sent not his Son for the Jewes only but for the Gentiles also whom the Jewes looked upon as devouted to destruction and said that they should all be destro●ed in the dayes of the Messiah and whom they ordinarily stiled the Nations of the world as is observed by such as are versed in the writings of the Rabbines and in the Talmuds To rectifie therefore this mistake Christ tels Nicodemus one of the Jewes Rulers and Rabbies that God so loved the world that is the Gentiles whom they called the Nations of the world that he gave his only begotten son that all beleevers even among them should not perish and in the next vers addeth moreover for God sent not his son into the word to condemne the world that is the Gentiles as they foolishly imagined but that the world through him might be saved See Ioh. 6 v. 33 51. 2 Cor. 5 v. 19. Ioh. 4 v. 42. 12 vers 47. 60. He proceedeth § 8 and bringeth another proof from Heb. 2 9. where it is said that Iesus by the grace of God should taste death for every man And thence he inferreth that if he tasted death for all then there were none for whom he did not taste death therefore there is none that may not partake of the benefite of his death Ans. 1. That for every man in the original is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 by an enallage for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for all and this tasting of death was no other then dying as Mat. 16 28. Mark 9 1. Luk. 9 27. Ioh. 8.52 Shall we now think that Christ died for all and every man that is in their roome and stead as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 importeth Philem● 13 2 Cor. 15 20. and alwayes in profane Authors when mention is made of one dying for another and frequently also in the 70. version as when David wished to have died for Absolom and one King is said to have reigned in the stead and place of another and yet that many of these same men shall die for themselves and suffer in their own persons what Christ suffered for them This is the import of this mans glosse Nay when Christ by his death in the room of all every man did procure no more than that they might partake of the benefite of his death it might so have come to passe that not one of all these all and every one should ever have reaped any good of his death 2. What we are to look upon as the proper import of this and the like Universal terme we have showne above And the Apostle here writing unto the Hebrewes who as was said fondly conceited that salvation belonged to them alone and that the Gentiles should reap no benefite of the Messiah had ground to use the same that they might see the Messiah was not for them alone 3. What these all are for whom Christ tasted death the text clearly sheweth when they are called Sones who must be brought to glory and not have a meer may be of salvation and of whose salvation Christ is peculiar Captane vers 10 the Sanctified who are all of one with the Sanctifier and his Brethren vers 11 12 17. that belong to his Church vers 12. The Children which God had given him vers 13. who were to be dilivered vers 15. did belong to the seed of Abraham vers 16. and for whose sins he made reconciliation vers 17. whom he succoureth in temptation vers 18. If this context do not sufficiently confute this conceite we need regaird the Scriptures no more 61. He addeth Ioh. 3 17. 12 47. And then tels us that by our doctrine Christ should rather be said to have come to condemne the world for if he came not to bring salvation to the most part of the world but to augment their comdemnation he came of purpose not to save but to condemne the world Ans. Prejudice hath so far blinded this mans eyes that he seeth not the beame in his owne eye He observeth not that by his owne opinion this may be more truely said of Christ viz that he came to Condemne the world and the whole world than of ours for by his opinion not one man might have been saved because Christ only procured a meer Possibility and no Certanty for any one man as he supposeth and can he be so blinde as not to see that this is worse than to say that Ch●ist shall certanely save some though the greatest part shall perish 2. was not Christ set for the fall of many Luk. 2 34. and for a stumbling block Esai 8 14 15. Rom. 9 33. 1 Pet. 2 7. Esai 28 26. Sayeth not Christ himself Ioh. 9 39 for judgment I am come into this world that they which see might be made blinde See also Ioh. 15 22 24. But 3. Our answere is this that Christ came indeed to save the World that is his People scattered up and down the world and especially among the Gentiles whom the Iewes looked upon as was said lately as the Nations of the Gentiles who were to be destroyed at the coming
the Law written in their hearts 103 2. They deny all in bred notions of a God and of honesty c. 106 3. They say a Pagan can performe all inward Worshipe easily 461 4. For God is nigh to help him 461 14. Of Enthusiasmes 1. They plead for immediat Revelations as necessary in place of the Scriptures 19. c. 2. They confound these Revelations with the gracious operations of the Spirit 20 21 80 3. They succeed to the old Enthusiasts 22 4. They preferre their Enthusiasmes to Scripture 57 15. Of the Gospel 1. They turne the history of Christs death resurrection into allegories 11 2. They wildly describe it 11 3. The preaching of the Gospel is not necessary with them 244 4. They say there is no more advantage to be had by the history of Christ then by the history of other Saints 244 5. They call the Gospel an inward power and vertue that is in every creature 259 6. They call every thing the Gospel that revealeth any thing of God 260 7. They plead for an Universal Gospel 267 16. Of the Light within 1. They make the light within their only guide 11 2. They preferre it to the Scriptures 59 3. They make the authority of the Scriptures to depend upon it 59 4. They make it the Supream Judge of all Controversies 60 85 5. They call it Christ God the Divine Essence the Saviour of the world c. 92 6. They call it the Essence of God 228 230 7. And the Omnipresence of God 228 8. They call it damnable heresie to deny the worshiping of it 228 9. They call it a measure of Christ and of God and God Father Son and H. Ghost 228 10. They say it is sufficient to salvation ibid 11. They deny it to be a Creature 228 12. It is a Teacher beyond the Scriptures 229 13. It is the Word of God grace and gifts and what not 229 14. It is a spiritual heavenly invisible Principle the Vehicle of God in which God dwelleth as Father Son and H. Ghost 230 231 233 15. It is an instrument of God 230 16. It is a divine glorious life 231 17. It inviteth all Men to good 232 18. It is the flesh and blood of Christ that came down from heaven 233 19. It beareth witness against all evil 234 20. It can be crucified and exstinguished 234 21. Where it is God and Christ are involved 235 22. Where it is resisted God is resisted 235 23. From it is Christ formed in the soul 236 237 24. All men are commanded to beleeve in and obey this Light 238 257 25. It delivereth from all sins 238 26. They call it a Substance 240 27. They call it the Sure Mercies of David a Leader a Commander 264 28. And that word by which faith cometh 264 265 29. And the fire and hammer spoken of Ier. 23 29. 264 266 30. They say by it God seeth the thoughts of men 264 31. They say the illumination hereof when received becometh an holy birth c. producing righteousness c 296 32. All may confidently appeare before God who hearken to the light and are thereby renewed 324 33. They say the light manifesting sin and nakedness is the body of Christ 489 34. This alone searcheth the heart and by it alone God manifests himself and saveth from the wrath to come men see their own faces 548 35. It can forgive sins and make new crea●ures 551 36. It is the Man Christ Jesus the Mediator which humbled himself to the crosse 551 37. They expect no justification or Salvation but by this light 551 38. Hereby they come to know Christ revealed in them 552 39. Who seek Christ any where else but in this light seek dreamings and night visions and spend their time in slumbering and dreaming 552 40. By owning and obeying it they are reconciled to God 552 41. This Christ within suffereth his sufferings are satisfactory wherever 552 42. They speak of killing the just one within us of his riseing againe 552 17. Of the Seed 1. They talk of a seed which they call a measure of God Christ the Spirit c. 95 100 2. They talk of its being wounded 247 3. They call it the manifestation of the Spirit 278 4. They say it is hid in the earthy part of every Mans heart and that herein is the kingdom of heaven as man in the embrio 279 5. As this small seed of righteousness say they ariseth and is suffered to come to the birth that new substantial birth is naturally fed with the spiritual body of Christ 489 18. Of Reprobation 1. They deny all absolute Reprobation 133. c. 2. They miserably mistake the orthodox judgment hereanent 143 144 3. In exaggerating the matter of Reprobation they belch out against God 254. c. 19. Of Grace 1. They deny Faith and Repentance to be the gifts of God 153 2. They deny that the grace of God in Conversion taketh away the resistance of the heart 273 3. They imagine the grace of Conversion to be as physick which a man may hinder to operat 273 4. They imagine that God putteth all some way out of the pit of misery and thereafter letteth such fall againe as spurn and resist 275 5. They will not grant that the grace of God maketh any real change of the corrupt nature of man or giveth a new heart 276 20. Of Vniversal Grace 1. They say God hath granted to all men Schythians and Barbarians a day of Visitation wherein they may be saved if they will 212 214. c. 2. And that God offereth Remission and Salvation to all upon condition of non-refusal 249 3. They plead for sufficient grace to all 269 4. They say Heathens that never heard of the Gospel may be saved 282 5. And that Paul Rom. 3. proveth that the Heathens were saved by doing the works of the Law 289 6. They say the Heathens had the knowledge of Christ though not under that denomination 290 7. And that because they spoke of Wisdom which is one of Christ's names 291 8. They grant remission of sins to some adult persons that never heard of Christ 302 9. Every man hath sufficiency of influence for praier till his day of Visitation passe say they 454 10. Every man hath that which is as good as the Spirit of Christ 546 21. Of Vniversal Redemption 1. They plead for Universal Redemption 157. c. 22. Of Salvation They say there is no possibility of Salvation after the day of Visitation is ended 215 2. And that God giveth to every man a certain measure of grace in order to salvation 226 c. 23. Of Christ's Satisfaction 1. They speak not distinctly of Christ's Satisfaction 242 2. They vilifie its vertue and efficacy 243 3. They say the outward blood of Christ or the blood of his vail cannot cleanse 295 4. They call it an abomination to say that God punished Christ that he might thereby
They deny Magistrats to be lawful who are not of their way 11 45. Of Liberty of Conscience 1. They plead for libery to all errours 501 2. Magistrates say they may not hinder people to meet together to Worshipe God as they judge best 505 3. Otherwayes they sinne against the nature of the Gospel 508 4. And against sound Reason the Law of Nature 511 5. The old Lawes for punishing of Idolaters they say no more binde us then the Jewes killing of the Canaanites or their taking gold c. from the Egyptians 509 510 46. Of W●rs 1. They are against all wars 514. c. 47. Of Lawful Oaths 1. They are against swearing before Magistrates 523. c. 2. Swearing by the Name of God of old was as they say a ceremony 525 526 527 3. Oaths say they did prefigu●e God's truth and fidelity 528 4. And had their rise from the Devil 528 5. Christ might swear say they as being under the Law not we who are under the Gospel 529 6. They say we ought not to regard what Paul did as to this even in his Epistles 530 7. Yet they will swear but not upon a book nor by lifting up the h●nd 529 530 48. Of Civil Honour 1. They are against the giving of all honour or respect to Superiours or Equals 533. c. 2. Christians say they may not give nor receive titles of honour 537 3. They use no other compellation for all persons but Thou Thee 539 4. They will salute no person nor signify any respect by uncovering the head 540 5. They account this adoration yet their first Father Iames Naylor received Divine Worship at Bristol 541 542 49. Of the Resurrection 1. They deny the Resurrection of the same body 17 552 553 50. Of Heaven and Hell 1. They assert no Heaven or Hell but what is within us 553 554 AN Examination and Confutation of ROBERT BARCLAY The QUAKER his Theses Apologie CHAP. I. Some remarks upon his Preface to his THESES 1. BEfore this Author come to set downe his Theses he premiteth a Preface wherein 1. He giveth us the Title inscription of them 2. He sheweth to whom he doth particularly make his address or to whom he directeth these his Theses to be considered or confuted 3. He is pleased to prevent our mistake to give us a description of himself their Author And 4 We have his prologue or preliminary discourse to those unto whom he addresseth himself 2. I shall not so far preoccupy the judgment of the Reader in the threshold as to shew demonstrate that his Theses which he stileth Theological might more fitly truely be called Ethnical or if you will Diabolical for upon the review of the whole after the ensueing examen this will appeare so manifest as if written with a sun-beame to all not blinded with prejudice who believe the Word of God close with it as our only Rule of Faith Practice 3. His Theses he directeth to all Clerks or clergymen or what he will have us understand by Clericis for thus he loveth to speak whether Ironically as he supposeth we call him others of his way Quakers out of contempt disdain or upon any other account I leave every man to judg● But what Clerks are these To Clerks sayeth he of all sorts of the whole Christian world Whereby it is obvious that he acknowledgeth a Christian world in which are Clergy-men of various kindes to which he himself others whom he here Patronizeth do not belong for he speaketh of them all as belonging to another Profession than what he his fraternity hold and while he thus manifestly excludeth himself his party from the Christian world every one may freely judge to what a world he they must needs belong It is ominous to stumble thus in the very threshold But whom doth he meane by these Clericis The following words will not suffer us to think that he meaneth all the people of God nor will the expressions themselves admit that because these Clerici must be but apart of the Christian world And if he understand hereby Church-officers as distinct from Church-members he joyneth herein with Papists against Protestants who account the whole Church not the Officers thereof only as do Papists to be God's Clergy or Heritage as doth the Apostle Peter 1 Pet 5 3. 4. More especially in the next place he directeth them to Doctors Professors Students of Theology and this I cannot but think is spoken indeed ironically for in his esteem it is not true Theologie which is taught by these Doctors Professours learned by these Students and that we may know who these all Doctors c. are he addeth in all the Academies of Europe whether Popish or Protestant what his designe hereby is cannot be hid for who seeth not that he intendeth his Theses as a chartal to provoke them or any of them all to a disput which must needs argue too great an excess of blinde confidence in this Man and withal there is a subdolous Insinuation here manifest for hereby he would make the world believe that his opinions are equally different from repugnant to the Popish Abominations to the Protestant Truth which is a shreud presumption that his ensueing doctrine will not savoure much of Christian candor seing it is so obvious shall be made manifest ere all be done that his opinions homologate more with the Popish than with the Protestant doctrine And if a provocation to dispute were not here intended why would he direct his Theses more especially to Professours Students in Academies not equally unto all Christians in common as charity would require of one who should intend the common good that is the edefication right information of such as he supposeth to be out of the way But I am apt to think and it may be every one shall judge me not far mistaken in this that this confident brag was resolved upon to the end common people might hear that such a Quaker had provoked all the learned men of Europe to a disput none durst enter the lists to fight with this Goliah thence suspect if not conclude that the Quakers are the only maintainers owners of Truth their sayings must be all unquestionable irrefragable Assertions But the judicious learned may at the first see there is little cause to be moved at all this confidence there being so little said hereby him which hath not been examined condemned both from Scripture found Reason by the faithfull asserters of the orthodox truth writting against the Pelagians Arminians Socinians Enthusiasts Anabaptists Papists others to whom alone he is obliged for all that he hath said whether in his Theses or in his large Apologie Vindication that before he was borne So that once to take notice of what he hath here scraped-together out of the writings of the Heterodox
unto life because it hath no place in his writings 14. The like 10. may we say of the work of Grace and of Sanctification of which his account is so darke and enigmatical that it is far from an holding forth of pure and naked Truth And how cometh it that he is so silent in explaining to us the nature of Faith in Jesus Christ and of its Actings and of Repentance unto life and of our Communion with the Father and his Son through Faith do not these appertain to that knowledge of God which is Eternal Life What shall we then think of this Gospel which He taketh upon him to be a publisher of 15. In the next place 11. To speak nothing of the law of God in obedience whereunto with a right frame of Spirit consisteth true Sanctification and that Obedience which is a real mark of true Love to God and so must be necessarily known to the end we may come to the possession of Eternal life whereof notwithstanding he not only giveth no plaine or naked account but also with the rest of the Quakers layeth downe grounds destroying all obedience to the law of God as we shall heare How cometh it that in all his explication of the true nature and original of that knowledge which leadeth unto life whether in his Theses or Apologie we have no account given to us of that Eternal life which we are to aime at and intend as our last end nor yet of its opposite Eternal Death and Hell whereby we might come to know some thing of the nature worth and necessity of Glory 16. Yet once more 12. I would aske why it is that in his Theses he giveth us no account of the Resurrection of the Body nor of the last Judgment He cannot say that the knowledge and faith of these particulars are not necessary unless he be of the same opinion with other Quakers who either speak dubiously thereof or do down right deny it Mr. Hicks sheweth us in his Book called The Quakers appeal answered Pag 21. that one Whitehead asserted in the hearing of many witnesses that this body shall not rise againe and that Will. Pen in his Book intituled Reas. against Rail Pag. 133. saith That it is inconsistent with Scripture Reason and the beliefe of all Men right in their wits And Pag. 134. that the absurdity of the Transubstantiation is rather outdone than equalled by this carnal Resurrection And that Pag. 138. he called it a Barbarous conceit Shall I think that this our Apologizer is of the same minde If not it concerneth him to speak more positively thereunto for his silence will go for an approbation of what his party speak expresly and further as concerning the last Judgment we may suppose that such as look on the Resurrection of the dead as a figment will give no place in their creed unto the doctrine of Christs coming againe to judge quick and dead and indeed I finde in the second Dialogue of Mr. Hicks Pag 42 43 that Whitehead in his Christ ascend Pag. 18 20 21 69. denyeth That Christ hath a personal being at the Right-hand of God without all men And Pag. 2● that he denyeth That he shall come visibly againe saying that they are like to be deceived who are expecting that Christs second comeing will be a personal comeing And I finde G. Keith in his Immediat Revel Pag. 77. applying the second or next comeing againe of Christ mentioned by Iames Cap. 5 7 8. by Paul Heb. 9.28 and by Peter 1 Pet 1 13. to Christs revelation when he shall appeare in us glorified who before was crucified in weakness yet now raised in power and living by the power of God and raising us up together with him setting us in heavenly places in him Whereby he cannot but meane a second coming againe of Christ which is already past and nothing else 17. By these particulars several others which might be added every one may judge what a delineation of that knowledge which leadeth to Salvation this confident man will give us in these his Theses when so many so important and so necessary and essential parts of our Christian faith are not once by him mentioned or asserted let be cleared up or explained but rather tacitely or expresly rejected and condemned We may also judge what that knowledge of God wherein is life eternal is which he shall pointe forth to us in his Theses when so many things so manifestly belonging to true divine and saving knowledge are if not denied yet waved by him as not necessary to be known and believed Hereby also we see ground to suspect that Original and Foundation of knowledge which he followeth and would propose to our understanding faith in the two next following Theses for either that must be a false Original and rotten Ground of saving knowledge or he is yet a stranger to the true and genuine Knowledge thereof otherwise he should be in case to give us a more distinct faithful account of these and such like particulars which are so necessary to be known and believed 18. I Shall readily grant that it is very necessary and usefull to know what is the true ground and original out of which we are to draw that knowledge of God and of his wayes which is necessary for us to know and believe in order to the obtaining of that felicity which consisteth in and is had further by the knowledge of God in Christ not only because many are ready to drink-in false Notions and Principles as he sayeth but very obscurely and indistinctly in his Apology Pag. 1. and 2. of God and of his Truth to hold fast what they have so through Ignorance Misinformation and Prejudice imbibed but especially because so many Pretenders to high and great matters as he and his like are ready to imbrace a Shadow for a Substance and take a suggestion of Satan the Father of lies or a dream of their own braines or a lying Vision of the Prince of the powers of the aire for Revelations and Manifestations of the God of Truth and the Motions of their own corrupt minds enlightned with the wildfire of their owne fancies or the fire flaughts of the God of this World for the Motions of the ●pirit of God That such things have been and may be himself dar not deny and if he should deny it sad experience of the fantastick Enthusiasts and false Teachers which every age hath produced will put it beyond all denyal as also the Idolatry and Superstition of so many Nations and People as himself affirmeth Pag. 2. which were a clear evidence of the false and fictious Opinions and Apprehensions which they had of God and a fruite of the false Divinations and pretended Revelations which they trusted to And therefore with good warrand and with his own approbation I shall say That it is a most dangerous thing to lay a wrong foundation of Knowledge and to draw the same out of
take notice of it 6 In his § 4. He would have us beleeving that he doth not hereby condemne all other second wayes or meanes as he purposeth to cleare in the next Thesis that is all other Wayes and Modes of attaining to the knowledge of God for he granteth these to be profitable and that they may conduce to facilitate the work but he is here pleading as he saith for that which is absolutely necessary But all the question is concerning the true meaning and import of that which he accounteth so Necessary if it be such Revelations of Truths as the Prophets and such as were Immediatly inspired had and as Enthusiasts plead for I deny the necessity hereof and as to this what way I pray can other meanes and modes as the Scriptures conduce to facilitate these Revelations have they any influence upon the person who is to receive these Revelations disposeing him thereunto Let him explaine this and then he may hear what shall be further replied If the thing so necessary unto the saving knowledge of God be only that operation of the Spirit which we mentioned above we assent and only say That he should speak more intelligibly than call this an Inward and Immediat Revelation But it is usual with this sort of men to speak as did the Libertines against whom Calvin wrote Cap. 2. after an high and loftie manner as if they were alwayes ravished in an ecstasy for as they alwayes have the Spirit in their mouth so they use a strange idiome that such as hear them are at the first amazed and this they affect of purpose to deceive their hearers and raise in them an admiration of them and their Opinions 7. Having thus premised what he thought fit to say to cleare the Question and to make way for vindicating of his Thesis he cometh next to the explication and confirmation of his Assertion in his Thesis where he tels us of five particulars 1. That there is no knowledge of the Father but by the Son 2. That there is no knowledge of the Son but by the Spirit 3. That God did alwayes reveal himself by the Spirit 4. That these Revelations were the formal object of the faith of the Saints 5. That the same object of faith remaineth He nameth here we see the Father the Son and the Spirit and we might readily think that he would here hold forth the order of working of the glorious Persons of the Trinity in things without ad extra and particularly in the Revelation of the mind of God concerning mans duty But whether we may rest perswaded that his judgment herein is Orthodox and that verily he beleeveth that there are Three Persons in the God head equal in Power and Glory of one Substance and Duration may be a doubt partly because the Light within which to him is the supream and only adequate Rule of Faith cannot teach this mysterie and hence it is that the Socinians not only will not admit this as an article of their creed but do also with much industry and rage oppose it and mainly upon this ground that their Natural Reason or the light within them which upon the matter so far as I can judge differeth not from the Light of the Quakers cannot comprehend it and partly because I finde other Quakers such as those of New England and those against whom Mr Stalham wrote as I hinted above denying it It is true this man hath several expressions further in the words following which would seem to evince that he is orthodox herein and there are some also that may seem to look another way But not purposeing to make more debate with him than I must needs do I shall not fix any thing upon him for which I see not clear ground only I wish that the next time he cometh forth in publick he would be more plain and positive as to this 8. As to the first of the forementioned Propositions It is true that no man knoweth the Father but the Son and he to whom the Son will reveal him Matth. 11 27. Luk. 10 22. for no man hath seen God at any time the only begotten Son which is in the bosome of the Father he hath declared him Ioh. 1 18. and God who at sundry times and in diverse manners spake in times past unto the Fathers by the Prophets hath in these last daies spoken unto us by his Son c. Hebr. 1 1 2. and so the Son of God the Second Person of the Trinity being the true Eternal God of the same substance and equal in power and glory with the Father when the fulness of time was come took upon Him mans nature so that the Word was made flesh and tabernacled among us Ioh 1 14 to the end that He might execute his Offices and among the rest declare the whole Counsel of God concerning mans Salvation as the great Prophet and Teacher of Israel But shall we suppose that this Man looketh upon Iesus of Nazareth of whom the Father said Mat 17 5. This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased heare yee him to be this Son that revealeth the Father and to be that grand mystery God manifest in the flesh justified in the Spirit seen of Angels preached unto the Gentiles bel●eved on in the World received up into glory 1 Tim. 3 16 The reason of my doubt is this because I finde some Quakers give a very indistinct and unsatisfying answere to such a question as this and give ground to suppose that they understood nothing by the Words being made flesh but the Light within them But his proof and explication of this Proposition is observable Pag. 9. He proveth it thus Because God who is the root and fountaine of all operation made all things by his eternal word Son and citeth Ioh. 1 1 2 3. Ephes. 3 9. If hereby he understand the first Creation with the orthodox how shall he evince this Consequence That because God created all things in the beginning by his Son Jesus Christ Therefore there is no knowledge of the Father but by his Son and is this a point so difficult to be proved that he was constrained to run back to the first Creation for an argument This would justly give ground of suspicion that the man meaneth by the Creation in the places cited not the First but the Second Creation with which Christs Revelation of the Father hath a more clear and natural connection and so joyneth with Socinus and his followers Enjedinus Smalcius and Schlightingius in denying upon this account Christ to be God creating all They say that when the Scripture saith God made all things by the Word c. the meaning is God made all things by his owne word and vertue the same expression which this Man useth here and thus interpret and apply the same Scriptures which he here citeth even that Ioh. 14 6. But admitting that he taketh the Creation in the orthodox sense we may observe
generation are Quakers because he and some few moe are such But Pag. 13. he saith That the Lord did alwayes speake immediatly to the High Priest when he entered the holy of holies who did communicate the same will of God unto the people Answ. How will he prove that the High Priest had alwayes then and there Divine Immediat Revelations And though it were granted what hath he gained seing himself confesseth that this was not the privilege of the people who were to learne the minde of God at the mouth of the High Priest He goeth on at the same rate of raving and tels us that no man was excluded from this inward Communication who did diligently seek it and attend upon it Which is his fonde and groundless conceite fit to be taught unto his admirers but to be hissed at by all rational persons Then he saith That others beside the high Priest had this inward communication And who denieth it who remembereth that there were Prophets in those dayes who were neither High Priests nor Levits But he addeth a wonderful confirmation adduceing instances from Numb 11 25.29 Neh. 9 30. Psal. ●1 v. 13. and 139 7. Esa. 48 16. Is it imaginable that this Man knew what he was doing when he wrote thus Or did he write his book for his foolish and credulous followers Were these seventy Elders the whole congregation Or was that Spirit that rested upon them a Spirit inwardly revealing the minde of God concerning the duty of the people of God and not rather a Spirit of government fitting them for the imployment to which they were called Why did he not cite also the Instances of Bezaliel and Aholiab Exod. 35 30 35. and of wicked Saul 1 Sam. 10 10 11 c. and of the Inchanter Balaam Numb 23 24 Did not the good Spirit by Moses guide his people in the wilderness Neh. 9 v. 20. as afterward by the Prophets verse 30 Had all the people the privilege of Moses and of the P●ophets what can such foolish reasonings import Did David speak of the Spirit of Prophecy Psal. 51 And who denyeth that David was a Prophet and had many Revelations And what would he inferre from the place of Esai Doth any say That Esaias was not immediatly sent of God 13. By these his reasonings he doth abundantly declare that he can prove no more than what no body will deny though many of his proofs come even short of that viz. That there were Prophets immediatly inspired of God from Moses to Malachy But did the Lord inspire all the people with the knowledge of his will Inwardly and Immediatly as he did these Prophets Though this be the only thing he should say if he would speak to purpose Yet he dar not say it it being so manifestly false The Apostle tels us Heb. 1 1. That God spoke in time past unto the Fathers by or in the Prophets and so not Immediatly to all the Fathers when the Lord had solemnly given the law at mount Sinai and had written it once and againe in Tables of stone Exod. 34 28. Deut. 4 13. 5 22. 10 4. He gave orders to Moses to write the rest of the law Exod. 24 4. Deut. 31 9 22. And this law was to be written in a book that it might be keeped and read There were also officers appointed to Interprete and explaine this law Iosh. 23 6. 1 King 2 3. Iosh. 1 8. Deut. 29 21. 30 10. 31 26. 17 18. Iosh. 8 31. 2 King 14 6. 22 8. 2 Chron. 17 8 9. 24 4. Neh. 8 8. Act. 15 21. The like we may see of the Prophecies of the Prophets Ier. 30 2. 36 2 10. 45 1 51 60. Ezech. 2 9 10 Hab. 2 2. Nah. 1 1 Luk. 4 17 20. 3 4. 20 42. Act. 1 20. 7 42. Was this teaching and instructing by books read studied and explained the Immediat Revelation of the Spirit Or was it no Revelation of the minde of God because it was not an Immediat Revelation Hence then we see that even when this Immediat Revelation was most in use it was not the only way of God's communicating his minde to every individual Son of Adam 14. Then he telleth us That it is confessed by all that under the N. T. the Lord revealed himself by his Spirit unto Apostles and Euangelists This is very true but maketh no more for his purpose than what he hath already said for we know that all are not Apostles nor Evangelists 1 Cor. 12 29. 15. His fourth Proposition viz. That these revelations were of old the formal object of the Saints cometh next to consideration But before I proceed to examine what he saith of this I must first dispatch some things which he saith in his Thesis which will contribute to our more compendious examination of his Apology both as to this and the following proposition So then when he speaketh thus by this formal object of faith he must meane the total formal Object or all that which is the ground of faith of and obedience to such or such particulars Next I would know what he meaneth by these Revelations whether the Things revealed or the Revelation of the particulars in such or such a way or both If he understand hereby the Propositions or Assertions or Duties or Rebukes or Instructions and Lawes and the like which were Revealed Then he cannot call these the Formal Objects of faith because they were only the Material Object or the particulars which were to be received and beleeved and not the Reason or Ground why and upon which they were to be received and beleeved If he understand hereby the Revelation it self either simply considered or as so or so modified Neither can he call this properly the formal Object of divine faith for suppose the Devil should have deceived some by Dreames Visions or any other way which was not impossible he alwayes labouring to be God's ape as we see Deut. 13. Ier. 27 9. 9 8 24. 23 27 32. here would be Revelation and a Revelation so and so modified and yet there was no ground of faith as the same places prove But if he say That he speaketh of a True Divine Revelation which must of necessity be the Ground or Formal Object of faith I answere Then it is manifest that the Revelation whether as considered in it self or as so or so modified is not the total Formal Object of divine faith But the Veracity Truth of God declaring by Prophets immediatly inspired his minde must be the Formal Ground of receiving what is delivered as Truth to be believed by a divinefaith and the Supream Authority of God declaring by the same men of God hiswill and command must be the Formal Ground of receiving what was delivered as a Law to be obeyed Both which were comprehended in this sentence Thus saith Iehovah with which the Prophets did usually usher-in their Sermons and Prophecies As
of God immediatly so made known unto them for the only formal Object of their Faith But withall I say that all others who believed though still the Word and Authority of God was the formal Object of their Faith and ground of their Obedience had not this formal Object conveyed and made known unto them by Inward and Immediat Revelation and of this beside the manifest and unquestionable evidence of the thing it self we have Instances in that same Chapter dar he say that all who beleeved from the beginning that the Worlds were framed by the Word of God c. had this truth revealed unto them by God Immediatly either by Dreames or Vive Voice or the like where readeth he of Revelations Inward and Immediat made to Abel who yet by Faith offered unto God a more excellent Sacrifice than Cain Where readeth he to passe by others of the Inward Immediat Revelations upon which their faith was founded who through faith subdued Kingdomes wrought righteousness stopped the mouthes of lions Quenched the violence of fire escaped the edge of the sword out of weakness were made strong waxed valient in fight turned to flight the armies of the aliens received their dead raised to life againe were tortured not accepting deliverance that they might obtaine a better resurrection had tryal of cruel mockings and scourgings and moreover of bonds and imprisonments who were stoned sawne asunder were tempted were slaine with the sword who wandered about in sheep skins and goat skins being destitute afflicted tormented who wandered in deserts and in mountains and in dens and caves of the earth Where readeth he I say of such Revelations made to all these persons who yet had faith and by faith were they Encouraged Enabled Supported and Carried thorow 24. B●cause he foresaw that some would Object That hence it would follow that there is no formal Object of faith now because the Lord doth not reveal his minde by Angels Dreames and Visions and the like Therefore he taketh notice of this Pag. 14. 15. but his answere is so confused and indistinct that you can hardly know what he would say He will not limite the power and liberty of God Wherein he doth wisely But will he say that God ei●her did or now doth reveal the whole Object of faith to all beleevers in su●h a manner He distinguisheth betwixt what is substantial and universal in the object of faith and what is circumstantial and accidental And hereby he either speaketh non-sense or destroyeth his owne cause for if the Immediat Revelation by those wayes mentioned was but accidental it cannot be called the formal Object of the faith of all believers He distinguisheth next betwixt what was obnoxious to doubting and what was not But he leaveth us in the mist while he explaineth Neither Then he tels us That these vive voices and dreames c. were the thing which they did believe and not the formal object or ground upon which they bel●eved I should rather think that the word of Truth or Command which was made known unto them by vive voice or dreame c. was the Material Object not the Formal Object quod as he ignorantly speaketh or the thing which they were to believe and receive and that these dreames c. were but the manner of conveyance both of the material Object and of the Formal He addeth a serious truth viz. That they were not ignorant that the Devil could have formed sounds of words in the aire and delude the external senses by false apparitions and this dayly experience proveth Whereby he confirmeth what we formerly said and giveth us faire warning to take heed and beware of such Delusions I wish he and the rest of the Quakers would carry the impress of this Truth alwayes with them But how then was the formal Object of faith secured He answereth There was a secret testimony of the Spirit in their hearts per●wading th●m that these voices and visions were really from God But was this secret testimony distinct from that which came alongs with these Divine Voices and Dreames c If not what will he gaine hereby or against whom would he fight if it was distinct than it seemeth God's Immediat speaking by Voices Dreames Visions c. were not so clear and evident in themselves as to Compel Move and Bow the intellect that was well disposed by it's owne evidence and clearness unto an assent and were not so clear and evident as the common principles of natural Truthes are viz. That the whole is more than a part Two contradictories cannot be both true and false which move and bow the Minde to a natural Assent and thus he contradicteth what he said in his Thesis See above § 2. Moreover if the matter was so he must say that there was no more Objective Evidence and Clearness in Gods speaking by Voices Dreames c. than in the Devils speaking so for without this new testimony the Prophets themselves could put no difference betwixt the One and the Other Againe could not the Devil come with a false toaken a●d perswade the false Prophets that the voices and visions they had were really from God And may not the Devil do so now especially in such as are given up of God to strong delusions to believe a lie But what would he make of this falshood He would Inferre that this Inward Testimon● was the Principal and original Object of their faith A wilde assertion for th●s Inward Testimony should rather be called the Principal and Original Cause or th● Efficient Cause of faith than the Object of it for its use was according to his owne doctrine not to Declare immediatly the Object of then Faith but to work up their soul and minde to receive and close with the Object which was proposed in these Divine Dreames and Visions as that power which openeth the eyes of the blinde is not the formal Obj●ct but the efficient Cause of the mans seeing the sun Then he addeth That these expressions The Lord spoke the word of the Lord came or was to such or such an one and the like will not evince that God spoke by audible voices and that he who asserteth it must prove it But we need neither Assert it nor Prove it for it is enough to us if these expressions signifie that singular way whatever it was which the Lord used in communicating his Minde to the Prophets and so a way distinct from that which he used with every individual private and particular Believer The answere to his formal argument with which the closeth this Paragraph may b● taken out of what is said and I need not spend time with repeating the same things 25. He cometh § 9. to the maine business the last Proposition viz. That the Object he should meane the formal Object of the faith of the Saints is alwa●es the same And thinketh he that any Christian will deny this which yet he must spend words about the proof of
Thinks he that we beleeve not that there is one faith But what reasoning is this There is one faith Therefore faith hath but one Object what object me●neth he Formal or Material O●ject if the first we grant th●t alwayes in all ages the formal Object of faith divine was the Truth and Veracity of God as to things beleeved and h●s Supream Legislative Authority as to acts of Obedience If he mean the Material Object he speaketh nothing to the purpose because he must here speak of the Object he spoke of in the foregoing Proposition and of none other And yet the man as ignorantly as a childe talketh in the following words of the Material Object for to prove that the Fathers had the same object of faith that we have he adduceth Abraham's faith and the Fathers drinking of the same rock which was Christ 1 Cor. 10. and yet all that drank of that water had not saving faith in Christ whereby he can meane nothing but the same Material Object which we grant to have been the same as to the substance But I would know what he would say of the Material Object of Adam's faith before the fall Was Christ tha● Object No certanely and yet Adam had a divine Faith And after this discourse of the Material Object he concludeth rarely and profoundly that the Object of their faith and ours is the same viz. Inward and Immediat Revelation which before he called the formal Object of faith Is this man fit enough to boast all the learned men of Europe who cannot distinguish betwixt the Formal and Meterial Object of Faith who would not pity such an Ignoramus that yet is so confident as if all the wit and learning of Europe were nothing to this rare und●rstanding Thinketh he that none of his Read●rs were able to observe this master piece of Ignorance and Confusion The same line of Confusion is drawne over the rest of that paragraph for he citeth Gal 1 16. which he may apply to both then he citeth Heb. 13 7. which only speaketh of the Material Object and then he tels us that the diversity of administrations alters not the object what object He addeth a reason that would seem to plead for the same formal object for otherwise saith he God should be knowne some other way than by the Spirit But his next reason is most rare all actions are specified from their Objects saith he These things need no further examination to rehearse them is more than enough so exotick and non-sensical are they 26. But at length he would seem to speak some thing more to the purpose when he saith That such as deny this Proposition of his make use of a distinction granting that God cannot be known but by the Spirit but withal denying that this knowledge is Immediat and Inward because it is by the Scriptures But the same Confusion is continued for we know not whether he speaketh of the Formal Object of faith or of the Material If he mean the Formal I know no man that saith that the Scriptures are the formal Object of Faith but that they containe the material object and express the veracity and authority of God which is the formal object and so are at most but a part of the formal Object If he mean the Material object who granteth that the Spirit is that That the Spirit is what the Scriptures say he is and doth what the Scriptures say he doth is I grant a part of the Material Object of our Faith It may be that through ignorance he falleth upon another question here than his Proposition gived clear ground for and would discuss this question whether the Scriptures containe all that is necessary for us to believe unto salvation or must we have new Revelations making known to us what we ought to believe or what we ought to do in reference to salvation together with this and so still there shall be confusion whethe● the Lord doth now Instruct us Inwardly and Immediatly as of old he manifested his minde to the Patriarchs Prophets and Apostles or doth he it Mediatly by the Word Ordinances Publick private which he hath appointed for this end But the man walketh in the dark all alongs either through ignorance or worse Waving what he here denyeth concerning Scriptures till we come to examine his next Thesis let us here see what he undertaketh to prove we are here to prove sayes he That the Christians now a dayes no less than of old are led inwardly and immediatly by the Spirit after the same manner though it may be not all together in the same measure Here still nothing but confusion and darkness For 1 How all the People of God of old were led by the Spirit he hath not shewed or what way they were led Inwardly and Immediatly was the privilege of a few Patriarchs and Prophets common to them all were none of them led by the Spirit in an Ordinary way by the Teachings and Information of others the Spirit by his grace and efficacious Operation inwardly concurring were none of them Taught and Instructed by the Ordinances of God established among them and blessed by the Spirit 2 We know not what he meaneth by this Inward and Immediat Leading whether that which is Ordinary and Common to all saints whereby the Spirit d●th Efficiently and Powerfully draw determine the soul to a compliance in Faith and Obedience with the will of God revealed in his law and to a right Improvement of his Ordinances which He hath established in his House and Church for building up of his People in their most holy faith or that which is Extraordinary and peculiar to a few whereby for the good of others and their further instruction he was pleased in a singular manner to Communicate his minde and to Reveal Immediatly what others were to beleeve and to do If he mean● this last we shall attend his proofs If he first he beateth the winde and fighteth against his own shadow 3. We know not what he meaneth by the same measure of which he speaketh so doubtingly Sure as to the light of saving Knowledge and as to the Object of faith there is much more clear discovery thereof under the New Testament than was in the time of the Old Testament as Paul proveth 2 Cor. 3 concluding vers 18. But we all with open face beholding as in a glasse the glory of the Lord are changed into the same image from glory to glory even as by the Spirit of the Lord And as the whole Gospel evinceth See Ephes 3 9. 1 Pet. 1 10 11 12. Act. 2 14-20 Luk. 7 28. From all which it is manifest that we cannot understand what it is which he would prove and what his Arguments must conclude 27. Yet let us see what his reasons are He adduceth § 10. these promises of Christ Ioh. 14 16 17 20. and 16 13. and hence would clear to us three particulars First That the Comforter and the Spirit
he hath gained nothing for I would say so that the Lord Jesus hath by his Spirit revealed Truths even Objectively unto us and even this way made good these promises but how By Inspireing Apostles and others to pen Scripture wherein all New Testament Truths necessary and sufficient for us to be believed and obeyed in order to Salvation are contained and revealed Is not this a proposeing of Truths Objectively Nay more I say the Spirit to this day is proposeing to us truths Objectively in by the work of the Ministrie and Ordinances which are established and maintained by the Spirit for this end to clear up the word of Reconciliation and to explaine all Gospel Truths which we are to believe and obey Here is also an Objective proposal by the Spirit But you will say it is not an Immediat Objective proposal I grant it and yet it is sufficient to confute his reason which mentioneth not this Immediatness nor will he prove any such thing out of these Scriptures in reference to all beleevers 29 Now followeth his Second Argument taken as he sayes from the new Covenant whereby he would prove that we are to be led by the Spirit not only Immediatly but also Objectively A strange conclusion as full of confusion as the former for any would think that by Objectively here he meaneth Mediatly But I suppose he would have said not only Subjectively but also Objectively For clearing of the matter and to prevent a fighting in the dark we would know That the work of the Spirit in order to the beleeving of Truths is either in and about the Soul of the man whom he is to give a Revelation of the truth unto or is in and about the Truth which is revealed and to be beleeved The First is that which is meaned by the word subjective because the man is the subject in which the Spirit is to work faith The Other is that which is expressed by the word Objective because the truth revealed is the Object which is to be beleeved and received Now the Subjective Operation of the Spirit in this matter is by enlightning the Understanding of the man taking away the vail that was over his eyes and thus enabling him to see the Object as when Christ cured the blinde man he put him in case to see the light which he could not do before so the Spirit openeth the eyes of the minde of the man that he may see the wonders out of his law Psal. 119 18. As to this immediat work of the Spirit though the Lord thinketh good to do this ordinarly in and by the use of meanes which he hath appointed so that the word Immediatly must not be so understood as to exclude these he maketh no debate with us But as to the Objective operation of the Spirit it is by proposeing of the Object or Truth to be beleeved unto the Intellect as true and as spoken by God and this is twofold either External or Internal External is when the Truth is proposed by God to the Intellect by outward meanes such as the Scriptures Preachers and the like and this may be also called Mediat Internal which may be called Immediat is when the Lord's Spirit doth immediatly propose the Truth to be believed as true and as spoken to them as a truth now to be believed because thus spoken by Him immediatly unto their souls unto which is requisite a real secret operation of the Spirit immediatly carrying the truth in upon the Understanding by Supernatural and Immediatly Infused intelligible Species's The former mediat way this man is not Satisfied with and this last immediat way is that whereby Truths were revealed extraordinarily to Prophets and Apostles and other● who were Inspired and is usually called Prophetick Revelation and in this sense is the word Revelation ordinarily taken in Scripture And this is the Revelation Immediat and Objective which this man would plead for and which we deny to be common to all believers whether under ●he Old Testam or under the New And which we also deny to be ●he way by which we are to expect the Teachings and Leadings of the Spirit now seing we are built upon the foundation of the Prophets and Apostles Christ himself being the chiefe corner stone Ephes. 2 20. 30. Now let us see how he proveth his point He adduceth two passages of Scripture Esai 59 21. and Ier. 31 33. with its parallel Heb. 8 10. where the Lord promiseth that the words which he shall put in their mouth shall not depart out of their mouth nor out of the mouth of their seed nor out of the mouth of their seeds seed from hence forth even for ever And that he will put his law in their inward parts and write it in their hearts c And what I pray can all this Evince Cannot the Lord put his words in the mouth and hearts of his People Mediatly Ay but saith he the Lord saith not that he will do this by Scriptures or other Means Nor doth he say say I that he will do it without them when he opened the heart of Lydia and when he caused the Thessalonians receive the word not as the word of Man though preached by Paul but as it is indeed the Word of God did he not put his word into their mouth and write it in their hearts But saith he hereby is the law and the Gospel differenced that the law was writen in tables of stone but the Gospel in the heart Ans. Said not David Psal. 40 8. that the law of God was in his heart And Ps. 119 11 that he hid Gods Word in his heart If it be so why said he before and went about to prove that the Object of faith of beleevers under the Law and under the Gospel was the same and how had all the Saints under the Law Immediat Revelations Other answers might be given here but these are sufficient to shew the mans Ignorance and Inconstancy when he hath reconciled himself to himself we will have less to do What he speaks afterward of Immediat Communion which is not the same with Immediat Revelation in respect whereof the state of beleevers under the Gospel is better than that under the Law is but to confirme further his self contradiction Let him reconcile this with what he said before of beleevers under the Law and of the sameness of the Object formal of the faith of both and we shall think ourselves concerned to notice what he saith But further to multiply his self contradictions he addeth an Untruth viz. That under the Law they had the high Priest immediatly receiving the Word of God in the holy of holies to teach the people and we say now under th● Gospel there is nothing but the external letter of the Scripture in the meaning of one verse of which scarce two do agree For neither can he prove that the High Priest had such Revelations alwayes in the Holy of Holies And we
perceiving the truth of the most clear Mathematick demonstrations can he do the like as to his sensations 35. The parting argument which he seteth down in the last paragraph is sufficient so he thinketh to end the whole debate Thus he frameth it That unto which all Professors of Christianity of whatsoever kinde do at last recurre and because of which all other grounds are commended and accounted worthy to be beleeved must of necessity be the only most certane and immovable ground of all Christian faith But the Inward Immediat objective revelation of the Spirit is that Therefore c. Now not to carpe at the eccentrickness of this conclusion for many such things must be passed over This confirmation of the Minor as to Protestants with whom he very charitablie joyneth Socinians whom I cannot account Christians notwihstanding of all the agreement betwixt him and them destroyeth the whole Argument and rendereth it Useless as to his purpose and so concludeth only his folly and ignorance If we enquire say he at them why they take the Scripture for a Rule they answere Because in them is declared the will of God which was revealed Immediatly and objectively by the Spirit unto holy men Can any man of common sense inferre hence that Protestants are for the Uncertanty of all Objective and Immediat Revelation even of that which holy men of God had when acted by the Infallible Spirit to penne Scripture as he insinuateth in the following words or can any man of common judgment see what this concession and necessary foundation of Protestants can make for the falsly pretended Immediat and Objective Revelations which Quakers boast off Nay doth not Protestants their owneing of this solide and immovable foundation sufficiently warrand their rejecting of his Delusions yea and necessitate them thereunto if they would be true to their principles 36. As for his monitory conclusion in the end of his vindication of this his Second Thesis wherein he giveth us a full foretaste of his Pelagianisme because we will have occasion sufficient to speak to this matter afterward we need only tell the Reader what he saith here His discourse in short is this If any man will assent to what he hath said of Divine Revelations though at present he be a stranger to them himself yet he must know that this is the common Privilege of all Christians and at length shall come to know this secret light enlighting his heart c. and when by relinquishing of sin this divine Voice in the heart shall become more known then shall he feel that as the Old Naturall Man is put off the New Man and spiritual birth shall arise and this new birth having Spiritual senses can discerne the things of the Spirit and understand the Mysteries of the kingdom of God And therefore let every man attend to this Spirit in the Little Revelation of that pure light which at first revealeth things more notoure and afterward as he is fitted he shall receive more and more and be in case at length by quick Experience to refute them who shall enquire what way he knoweth that he is led by the Spirit That is in short If one will firmly beleeve that Natures dimme Light is the Spirit of God and the Holy Ghost in him and in the faith of this give up himself to the Teachings thereof and thereby shun outward acts of sin and put on a forme of Godliness and more and more give up himself to this Delusion he shall at length arive at this Perfection that he may burne the Bible and with confidence assert that he is acted by the Holy Ghost let Scriptures and Common Sense say to the contrary what they will What an extract of Pelagianisme Enthusiasme and dreadful Delusion is here every knowing person may see CHAP. IV. Of the Scriptures 1. HIs third Thesis which I finde in some things altered and more clearly expressed in the second edition set down in the Apology than was in the single sheet containing his judgment of the Scriptures cometh now to be examined The Scriptures being owned by us as a sure Rule whereby we should try the Spirits and they giving such clear and manifest Testimony against the Delusions and bold Assertions of the Quakers and affording us full and sufficient Ground whereupon to reject their Doctrine and to look upon them as Impostors it is little wonder that we heare them speak so basely of these Scriptures of Truth as we do Mr Stalham in his Reviler rebuked Pag. 1. tels us that a Quaker denied to his face the Scriptures to be the word of truth or at least not to all not to wicked men and unbelievers no not condemningly He tels us also Pag. 4. that some said to him That the Scripture is not the word of truth but the witness of Gods power as if that could be the true witness of Gods Power which were not true nor the word of truth He tels us also Pag. 18. sect 2. that Francis Howgil said The Scripture is other mens words that spoke them freely and Pag. 20. that Richard Farnworth called them in a way of disparagment a printed bible So Pag. 23. sect 3. that Iohn Lawson said we had nothing to try men by but the letter the Bible or written word which is natural and carnal So Pag. 244. he tels us that some of them in a book called a paper sent into the world Pag 2. have these words They are such teachers as tell people that Matthew Mark Luk and John is the Gospel which are but the letter we therefore do d●ny them And Pag. 250. he citeth these words out of Tho. Lawsons book called an untaught teacher Pag. 2. To say that the word of truth is called the Scripture or that the Scripture is called the word of truth that is a lie If this man do not approve of these and the like Expressions of those called Quakers he is concerned to give testimony against them and that directly that the world may bear witness of his honesty But we know what account the Old N. England Libertines David George and the Familists with whom this man and the rest agree too well made of the Scripturs 2. It is commonly affirmed by the Quakers that the Scriptures are not the word of God or ought not to be so called So Fox and Hubberthorn cited by Mr Hicks in his first dialogue Pag. 17. where he tels us also that Nailor in his Answere to the jewes P. 22. said That it is the devil that contends for the Scriptures to be the word of God And that this is their common Assertion and that mainly upon this ground that Christ is called the word of God D. Owen also witnesseth this in his Exercit Apol. Pro. S. Script●r Adv Fanaticos Exerc. 1. Sect. 3. which is no new thing for Phanaticks to alledge for I finde that it was one of Swenckfeldius's heterodoxies de Sacris Libris P. 27 28. and that upon the same
Revelations of the Spirit of God and yet they carry no Authority impressed upon them What shall carry the Impressions of a divine Authority if divine Revelations do not why did he assert in the preceeding Thesis that divine Revelation was the formal Object and ground of divine Faith How can they beleeve with a divine Faith the divine Revelations which they pretend unto why doth he plead so much for looking after divine Revelations if divine Revelations have not the stamp of divine Authority upon them But he sayes they ascribe the authority wholly unto the Spirit And do not we so also when we stoop unto the Authority of the Scriptures of Truth because delivered by the Inspiration of God when we say the Acts and Statutes of Parliament have the authority of Lawes and we obey and receive them as authenticque Lawes do we not ascribe the Legislative Authority unto the Parliament what a fancyful distinction must this them be and what a Notional difference doth he here imagine But it may be by these writings he meaneth the Paper and Ink But can he call the Paper and Inck the Scriptures of Truth or say that they did proceed from the holy Revelations of the Spirit of God 6. He reduceth all the contents of the Scripture unto three heads telling us that they containe first an historical narration of the acts of the people of God in not a few ages and of several rare testimonies of the providence of God towards them Forgetting that we have here also a true and faithful Narration of the first creation and that these examples are instructive Secondly a Prophetical narration of many things of which some are past and some are yet to come Making no mention of the great and many Promises nor yet of the threatnings Thirdly a full and large testimony to the chiefe doctrines of the Christian faith and that in certane excellent declarations exhortations and sentences which by the afflatus of the Spirit were said and written at diverse times to diverse churches and pastors according to various occasions that fell out And here is the whole of the high account he hath of the Scriptures and of their perfection Not to Meddle much with that here which he will give us occasion largely to disput of hereafter I would only enquire where or in what book beside the Scriptures shall we finde the whole doctrine of the Christian Faith laid down The Scriptures as he saith only give testimony to the chiefe Doctrines of Christianity Therefore there must be other Doctrines of Christianity that must be found out and searched for elsewhere but where I pray shall we finde these Againe I would know of him how we shall know what belongeth to the chiefe Heads of Christianity and what not we cannot know this by the Scriptures for they are supposed by him to be chief heads of Christianity to us before the Scriptures come which only as he saith beareth testimony to some of them 7. Further when he sayeth the Scripture giveth this Testimony only in certaine declarations c. It would seem we have not our Christian faith from the Scriptures but all the Articles thereof flow to us from some other Immediat Fountaine and are founded as to us upon some other Immediat Ground and the Scriptures only give some testimony thereto and that as it were on the bye in some certane Declarations Exhortations and Sentences Hence it would appeare by him that it is not the maine intendment and principal designe of the Scriptures to set downe delineat and explaine to us the articles of our Christian Faith and the doctrine of our Religion and so Iohn was it seemeth in a mistake when he said Iohn 20 vers 31. These are written that we might beleeve that Iesus is the Christ the Son of God and that believing we might have life through his name Why hath the Lord thus made known and written unto us excellent things in counsel and knowledge Is it not that our trust might be in the Lord and that he might make us know the certanty of the Words of Truth Prov. 22 vers 18 19 20 21. See Luk. 1 vers 2 3 4. Why saith Paul Rom 15 vers 4. that whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning that we through patience and comfort of the Scriptures might have hope For what end did the Spirit inspire these Holy men and by or in them speak to us in the Scriptures if not to give us a solide ground for our Faith to stand upon in receiving and beleeving the articles of Salvation Is not the whole of the Scripture given by the Inspiration of God that the man of God may be perfect throughly furnished unto all good works 2 Tim. 3 16 17 Why doth the Apostle Peter say 2 Pet. 1 19. that we do well to take heed unto this more sure word of prophecy If they be not the ground of our Faith why are we desired thus to take heed unto them and to desire the sincere milk of word that we may grow thereby 1 Pet 2 2. Are we not said to be built upon that foundation which the Prophets and Apostles did ministerially lay by Word and Write Ephes. 2 20. Thus we see he layeth no more weight upon the Scriptures as to the bottoming of our Faith than he would do upon any good Book wherein testimony were given unto the chiefe Doctrines of the Christian Faith by some excellent Declarations Exhortations and Sentences 8. In this account he giveth us of his conceptions of the fulness and perfection of the Scriptures It is observable that he doth not so much as give the least hint of any Authority wherewith the Scripture is cloathed to lay obligations on our Consciences to yeeld Faith and Obedience to it as the signification of the Soveraigne Will and pleasure of the great God and Lawgiver and in this is more injurious to the Scriptures then Papists are who grant it to be a Rule of Faith Hos. 8 12. See Psal. 119. throughout with infinite moe places and this is in effect to destroy the Scriptures which are given to us as the Law of God and must be received as such with Faith and Obedience As if they had not been inspired by the Holy Ghost for this end purpose that we might thereby understand and prove what is that good that acceptable and perfect will of God Is it not called a Law disobedience unto and transgression of which is sin 1 Ioh. 3 4. Iam. 2 8 9 10 11 12. and 4 11. 9. What he saith of the Scriptures being written to certane Churches and Pastors upon certane Occasions which is an old Popish argument neither will quadrate with the whole of the Scriptures nor though it did will it ground any such inference that we have little or no interest therein as our Law and Rule as Quakers say and lest he think I caluminate let him take notice of these few Instances Edw. Borroughs Pag.
of their Inspirations and Prophecies it is at least possible that they may be deceived also And if so is it not every way saifest to try all by the unerring touch stone And do●h it not hence appear that if we speak in reference to their Revelations the Scriptures are unquestionably the Primary and Adequate rule 12. He addeth a reason in his Thesis which he prosecuteth at large in his Apology viz. That we know the certanty of the Scriptures only by the inward testimony of the Spirit But this reason is ambiguously expressed for it may either have this meaning That we know the certainty of the matter contained in the Scriptures only by the Inward Testimony of the Spirit Or this may be the meaning That only by the Inward Testimony of the Spirit we know certanely that the Scriptures are the word of God or that book which containeth the revealed will of God If he take this Reason in the first sense we may then in part know what he understandeth by a Secondary and Subordinate Rule which title he is pleased as we heard to allow unto the Scriptures that his meaning is consonant to what Will. Pen saith P. 47. of that book of his which Mr Hicks citeth Dial. 3. Pag. 48. viz. We dar boldly affirme that the greatest reason of our beleefe concerning the prophecies and promises recorded in the Scriptures is not from any outward thing but that inward testimony that we have received from that holy Light within us to the truth and faithfulness of those sayings And againe Pag. 48. cited by Mr Hicks Pag. 50 51. Though we do say men ought to live up to these h●ly Rules contained in the Scriptures yet the reason why is that conviction they meet with from the light of their own consciences Therefore the light within is both our warrant for Faith in and Obedience to them And this upon the mater is the same that Benj. Furley a known Quaker in Rotterdam saith most plainly in his letter cited by Mr Hicks in his Quakers appeal answered Pag. 16. There is nothing in the Scripture that is a duty upon me or which I am obliged to obey because there recorded whatsoever is a command to me I must not receive from any man or thing without me Nay not the Scripture it self Yea it is the greatest error in the world that ever was invented and the ground of all errour to affirme that the Scripture ought to be a Rule to Christians This is plaine dealing and so is that of Edward Burrowes Pag. 62. cited by Mr Hicks ibid. He that perswades people to let the Scr●ptures be the rule of faith and practice would keep people in darkness for who ever walks by the rule without them and teach men so to do would make void the Covenant of life and peace Now if this be his meaning the Scriptures shall be no Rule at all not so much as a Subordinate Rule for it shall hold forth no Truth calling for divine Faith from me nor shall it hold forth any Law or Command obligeing me to Obedience unless a new Revelation come or the Light with in me tell me that such a point is Truth and so to be beleeved and such an Exhortation is a divine Command and so to be Obeyed And if the Light within me say that such an Assertion contained in the Scriptures is not T●uth I must not be●e●ve it or if it say that such a word of Command is not to be Obeyed there sh●●l be no force of a command in the word So that as with Papists the Scriptures are beholden to their Pope or to their Church for its authority so as it hath no canonick authority but what is given to it by the Pope or the Church So with Quakers the Scriptures are beholden to the Light within for its authority and no more is Scripture to be Beleeved and Obeyed as Scripture but what the Light within saith is to be beleeved and Obeyed And thus in effect it is not the Scripture nor the Spirit of God speaking to us in the Scripture that layeth any obligation on us to beleeve and obey but only the Light within so that if the Light within will any other book possibly the Turks Alcoran shall have as much authority to Command our Faith and Obedience as the Scripture hath Yet I must needs say we have much more advantage in dealing with Papists than in dealing with these Quakers for the Papists have but one Pope to whose determination they submit But here every Quaker hath a Pope within his brest And next we can know read and understand what the Pop's determinations are and how founded when he is pleased to condescend to give reasons at least we can know what truths he determineth and what not But we cannot know what the Spirit or Light within the Quakers saith we heare not and see not and understand not what it saith whether it be a white or a blake Spirit we know not It may say One thing this houre and the contrary the next and where are we then And what ever it saith we cannot know but as they report and whether their report be true or not we know not Nor can we know when we have used our utmost diligence to know it To this then are we come at length That every Quaker hath the Supreame judge of all controversies within his brest and the supream Law to regulate all duties So that it is impossible to convince them of an Errour either in Faith or Practice out of the Scriptures because the clearest Assertions of truth and the most manifest Commands have no au●hority but from the Light within them And what that Light saith we cannot judge because we neither hear it nor see it nor have we ground to beleeve that they cannot give us a false report of the testimony of that Light This is ● confess a master piece of Invention of the grand Impostor to keep these deluded souls out of the reach of conviction but such as all sober persons will judge ground sufficient to look upon that with a more than ordinary piece of abhorrence and to flee from these deluded and self deluding creatures But one thing more I would know of this man if this be his meaning Is it any otherways with us than it was with the people of God of old He must say no seing he hath formerly pleaded for the same formal Object and Ground to their faith and ours and then I enquire might not the people of God of old have put off thus all the Prophecies Exhortations Rebuikes and Commands which the Prophets immediatly inspired declared unto them from in the name of the Lord by saying till they had Revelations immediat themselves concerning these things to be beleeved or obeyed they were not under any obligation to notice them And if so how could they be charged with Disobedience Obstinacy Unbeleef and Wickedness as we oftentimes finde they were
pretendeth unto to be more Originally and Principally the Rule than the Revelations which are contained in the Scriptures and by which the Scriptures were given out Againe he must shew us a Reason why the Revelations which he pretendeth unto should be called or accounted one with the Spirit himself more than these Revelations by which the Scriptures were dictate 23. Before we proceed we must take notice of one thing further in his Thesis There he tels us that the Scriptures themselves testifie that the Spirit is that Rector or guide who is given to the Saints by whom they are to be led in all truth And then inferreth that Therefore according to the Scriptures the Spirit is the prime and principal leader And this is very true but maketh nothing for his Cause yea it militateth against him for I would ask whether he beleeveth this testimony of the Scripture or not If not why maketh he thus use of it as an Argument Is he of the same minde with other Quakers who as Mr Hicks reporteth Dial. 1. P. 24 25. speak thus Thou mistakest us we owne not the Scriptures to be our Rule And whereas thou hast said many things to render us guilty of condemning this in others whilst we ourselves seemingly allow it to be so which is but thine own imagination for when we make use of the Scriptures it is only to quiet and stop their clamours that plead for it as their Rule But for us had the Scriptures never been we could have known what is therein contained And againe Pag. 48.49 dost thou deny perfection attainable in this life Is any point more plainly asserted then this NB. in that which thou callest thy Rule the Scriptures not because I owne it to be so but thou dost and I would convince thee by them dost not thou call the Scriptures the word of God and thy Rule I wonder thou should insist so much upon this since I have told thee I owne it not as the Rule only I would convince thee by it If he be of this judgment he could not with a good conscience adduce this Argument where he is thetically laying downe and confirming the grounds of his Faith But if he be of another judgment and beleeveth this to be true I would ask againe Upon what ground Is it because the Scriptures speak thus or because the Light within him or a second Testimony or Inspiration saith that this is Truth If this last be his meaning he cannot say that the Scriptures give this testimony but that the Spirit distinct from that Spirit which speaketh in the Scriptures giveth this testimony for if this distinct testimony did not speak the Spirit speaking in the Scriptures should say nothing or what he said should be of no value Nor can he say that according to the Scriptures but according to the Spirit speaking in him which is distinct and s●parable from the Scriptures or the Spirit speaking in them The Spirit is the Principal Leader And thus his argueing is vaine and according to his owne Principles a Falshood But if the first be his meaning to wit That he beleeveth this to ●e true because the Scriptures speak so then he destroyeth what he hath said and oppugneth his owne Principal Assertion for then the Scripture must be the supream Rule of faith and because of what the Scripture saith we must beleeve what is the office and work of the Spirit of God and a new distinct testimony is no requisite to ground our faith of the truth of this which the Scripture saith concerning the Spirits being given to lead the Saints in all truth This Observation may serve once for all both as to his Thesis and Apology where he citeth not a few passages of Scripture to confirme what he saith as we have seen and shall see further but with what consonancy to his Principles I see not As to the thing it self which here he saith the Scriptures confirme we judge it a Truth worthy of all acceptance But I much questione if his and our meaning be the same Partly because of what is said and partly because of what followeth immediatly in his Thesis I shall only ask him How doth the Spirit lead his people into all truth Is it by new Immediat Inspirations and Revelations or is it by clearing up the Rule of the word by Ministers and meanes by God appointed Illuminating their eyes to understand it and by the Influences of his grace causing them Beleeve and Obey the same If this last be granted we have what we desire and his cause is destroyed for then the Scriptures are our Only and Primary Rule If the first be alleiged then the Spirit by a new Immediat Revelation leadeth him into this truth to wit That the Spirit leadeth into all truth and consequently the ground of the faith of this is not the testimony of the Scriptures as he seemeth here to say 24. But now let us see his grounds why he will not have the Scriptures to be looked upon as our Sole and Principal Rule Pag. 39. he draweth an Argument from the difference betwixt the Law and the Gospel saying the law is written without bringeth condemnation and killeth the Gospel is written within and is Spiritual giving life c. Ans. 1. This is the common Objection of phanaticks against the Scriptures So reasoned the libertines against whom Calvin wrote as we see Chap. 9. But 2. This man must be acted by a vertiginous Spirit for in the precee●ing Chapter we saw with what earnestness he laboured to prove that the people of God under the Old Test. were led by Revelations and how we under the New Test. must be led the same way because faith is ay the same and must have the same Object however the dispensations vary and I pray must not the same faith have the same Rule under various dispensations 3. If we under the New Test. must have no written Rule why did Christ Inspire his Apostles to write to Churches under the New Testam and give them legible letters to Read and to conforme their Faith and Practice unto why did Luk write that we might know the certanety Luk 1 4. Why did Iohn write that we might beleeve and beleeving might have life Ioh. 20.31 Why did Christ by his servant Iohn write legible letters to the Churches in asia Revel 1 1 3 4 Were all these Killing Letters were these Letters of Condemnation 4. why doth this man prove his Assertions or at least endeavour to prove them by the Letter of the new Testament Scriptures But it is usual with him both to Speak and to Act contradictory to himself and his Principles Doth he not even here cite new Testament Scriptures Rom. 6 14. and 8 2. and 10 8. with act 20 32 5. we know that the Law of God separated from and opposed to Christ as several in the Apostolick dayes were seeking to do is but a killing letter as the Gospel is also when abused
the Law of God as their Supream Law and Rule for notwithstanding that these here had received the word spoken by Paul yet they went to their Supream Rule to have full Confirmation and Perswasion and upon this account are highly commended and hereby became beleevers vers 12. What he speaketh Pag. 50 of Heathens and particularly of the Athenians who received not the Scriptures and therefore were not dealt with by the Apostle upon that ground is Impertinent for he granted that the Law was a Principal Rule to the Jewes yet he knoweth that all other Nations did not submit unto it and he cannot say that the Chiefe and Only Rule was more different than nor now But he supposeth that when we speak of the Scriptures as our Rule we do wholly exclude the Law of Nature and the Revelation of God's minde written on the works of Creation and Providence and imprinted into the heart and minde of man as if the Scriptures did not comprehend the other and give a more clear and distinct Explication thereof Doth not the Scripture tell us that Gods works reveal ●omething of Him Psal. 19 2 3 4 5. and 147 10. c Iob 37. and 38. and 39. Act. 14 15 16 1● Rom. 1 18 19 20. and 2 14 15 And hence also we see that the very Law and Light of Nature hath the Authority of God with it as being a Revelation of his will though dimme and but in part so that such as had no other are judged and condemned as trangressours thereof But this is without any prejudice to that Word which God hath magnified above all his name or what declareth Him Psal. 138 2. and wherein what was but darkly held forth in nature is more clearly and distinctly expressed beside the many other Revelations concerning the Institute worshipe of God and the way of Reconciliation and many other things concerning God and his Relations to us and our Duty to him which Nature could never have discovered and which are fully and clearly held forth in the written Word What argueing is this Because the Gentiles have not the Scriptures which are the Full Clear and Comprehensive Revelation of the minde of God therefore they are not our Supream Only Rule It is observable how this Man in the end of this § 8. will no more have the Scrip●ures to be our Rule then the heathen Poets a sentence out of whom Paul adduced to convince the Athenians and so contradicteth all that he hath said both as touching the Law and Word of God its being a Principal Rule to the Iewes and among the rest to the Bereans and a Subordinat Rule to us We should have work enough should we do no more but observe this Mans inconsistencies and self contradictions 29. We returne now to examine what he saith against the Perfection of the Scriptures whereby he would prove it to be no Canon to us § 3. c. Pag. 40. c. And here he must give us leave to improve the advantage we have of his Concessions for while he granteth the Scriptures to be Truth he must needs grant that what testimony they give of themselves must be true and if they assert their owne Fulness and Perfection as to the ends for which they were appointed as we shall now shew they do he is as much concerned as we to answere the Objections to the contrary and to vindicate the Scriptures to be Perfect according to the testimony they give of themselves But it is obser●able how these Quakers joyne with Papists to decry the Scriptures and their Perf●ction and with the Iewes also who in their corrupted stated cryed up an Oral Law as they called it above the written Word It is true their Faces seeme to look to distinct airths but with Samsons foxes their tails are tyed together to consume the Scriptures of truth Our Quakers cry up their Inward Revelations or the Spirit within them as above the Scriptures So do the Papists cry up the Spirit in their Church See Mich. le jay praef ad opus biblic and Morinus ●ut let us see by what Arguments the Scriptures prove themselves to be a Perfect Canon and Rule That place of Paul 2 Tim 3 16 17 is enough to confront all that this Man can say against their Perfection For what is able to make wise unto salvation to make the man of God perfect throughly fournished for all good works is and cannot but be a Compleet and Perfect Rule But Paul positively and expresly asserteth this of the Scriptures nay moreover he cleareth and confirmeth it by enumeratin● all the necessary and useful Effects of the Scripture which he reduceth to foure heads to doctrine and Reproof in reference to matters of Faith the one concerneth the declaration and confirmation of Truth the other the rejection and confutation of Errour and then to Correction and Instruction in reference to Manners the one concerneth Evil actions for which men are to be reproved and corrected the other concerneth Good actions wherein we are to be instructed Against this place t●is man hath not a face to speak only in the end of Pag. 46. he hinteth that by the Man of God here is meaned the Spiritual Man and not a Carnal Man Which is nothing to the matter for though none but a Spiritual Man can improve the Scriptures aright yet they remaine in themselves a Compleet and Perfect Rule yea this confirmeth their Perfection and Necessity that even the Spiritual Man and he that is most advanced is made perfect by them standeth in need of them as his Rule And sure in this mans judgment they must be more a Rule to Quakers then to any others for these only are men of God with him The same may be cleared from Ioh. 5 39. of which before and Ioh. 20 31. But these are written that ye might beleeve that Iesus is the Christ and that beleeving ye might have life through his name So that the Sufficiency of what is writen concerning Christs Doctrine and Actions unto salvation clearly confirmeth the Perfection of the Scriptures nothing needeth be added to that Rule which is a Sufficient Ground for our faith that we may come to life But the Scriptures are a Sufficient Ground for our faith that we thereby may be saved For this end also compare these following passages Luk. 1 3 4. and 16 29. Act. 1.1 Rom. 10 17. Ephes 2 19 20. 30. Nay not only so but the Scriptures do in express tearmes Assert their owne Perfection Psal. 19 7. The Law of the Lord is perfect converting the soul must no● this man be effronted that with Papists dar openly say the Law of the Lord is not perfect and as if it were not enough to contradict Scripture will goe about to prove that the Scriptures of truth do not speak truth Adde to this these passages wherein men are expresly prohibited to adde to this law such as Deut. 4 2. and 12 32. Prov. 30 5
Reprobation and a mean whereby the execution thereof is brought about they cannot be the procureing cause thereof This is manifest But the former is true Therefore c. That the former is true is manifest from these words of Peter 1. Pet. 2 8. Where we see that these stumblers at the stumbling ston and disobedient persons were appointed or ordained thereunto So Ioh. 10 26 But ye beleeve not because ye are not of my sheep where it is manifest that their not beleeving was a clear consequent of their not being of his sheep So Rom. 11 7. Israel hath not obtained-but the Election and the rest were hardened So that it was from Election that such obtained as did obtaine and from Non-election that the rest obtained not but were hardened 8 Sin is the moving cause of Actual damnation If sin also be the moving cause of the decree of Reprobation It would follow that because of sin God decreed to damne because of sin which is strange language 12. Having premised these things we come now to take notice of what he saith we observed before one great mistake in his set●ing downe of our judgment as if God had determined the demonstration of his Iustice without any resp●ct had to sin Then he saith as further declaring our opinion that God for perfecting of this did appoint that these miserable souls should necessarily sin Resp. Here are moe mistakes for first we say not that Reprobation imposeth any necessity of sinning The decree to punish for sin doth not impose a necessity on the sinner to sin nor yet the decree of denying grace whereby they might be delivered from their sin for that is only a decree of not delivering them out of that state wherein they have brought themselves under a necessity of sinning and so imposeth no necessity Next as to God's Decreeing or willing that sin should exist through his permission which doth not properly belong to this question neither doth that impose any absolute necessity or take away the liberty of Mans Will or the Contingency of events as to second causes And it would seem this man knoweth no difference betwixt an Absolute necessity and that necessity which is meerly Hypothetical But thirdly there is another mistake here for he would make his Reader beleeve that we said that all the necessity of sinning did flow from Reprobation as if no necessity of sinning arose from their sinful state wherein they are by the transgression of Adam Beside that we might observe how in this sentence he contradicteth what he said in the former He addeth That by his Iustice he might according to right rebuke and afflict This would import that according to our judgment Sin is permitted or decreed to exist the Lord permitting it as a Meane to the punishment as the End as if God intended punishment as an end and therefore suffered sin as a mean●s while as we look upon both the permission of sin and the punishment thereof as one meanes for the setting forth of the glory of divine Justice He proceedeth as declareing our opinion And therefore that God not only suffereth these to be obnoxi●us to this misery in many parts of the World by withdrawing the preaching of the Gospel and the knowledge of Christ. And here we finde some more mistakes for we say that all men by nature are into this state of sin and misery whether they hear the Gospel or not and so their obnoxiousness unto that misery dependeth not upon their want of preaching and of the knowledge of Christ though this be a necessary meane of delivering them out of it Againe his Therefore pointeth out another mistake for as we speak not thus so far less do we inferre this from what he mentioned before Thirdly his word subtrahendo withdrawing pointeth forth a third mistake for it will import that we say that the Gospel is once preached to every person yea and to every Reprobate for how else can it be said to be withdrawne And here is a further mistake when he addeth and the knowledge of Christ for hereby the Reader might think that we thought every Reprobat had the knowledge of Christ but because he was a Reprobat it was taken away from him and withdrawn He saith moreover that we say God even in these places where the Gospel is preached and salvation is offered by Christ withdraweth from them all grace whereby it was possible for them to apprehend the Gospel Here are also several mistakes for his subtraxisse importeth that God hath given to every one who heareth the Gospe● grace whereby they may imbrace the Gospel and then withdraweth it from the Reprobate because they are such where readeth he such language in the writtings of our Divines Next we say not as he here insinuateth that we do that the grace which God withholdeth from the Reprobat is that by which faith in the Gospel is meerly possible but that rather without which they cannot beleeve and with which they cannot but beleeve that is He withholdeth the grace of Faith which being his owne free gift Ephes. 2 8. He bestoweth it upon w●om He will for he blesseth with all spiritual blessings such as he hath chosen before the foundation of the world that they might be ●oly Ephes. 1 3 4. He proceedeth in relating our opinion thus Because by his own secret will he did decree that they should not obey and that the Gospel should never be effectual to their salvation and that without all respect had to their sin Where there ar● other mistakes to be observed for first He no where readeth that Reprobation is a decreeing that men should not obey Next whe● our divines speak of God's decrees about sin they never utter their minde so bluntly as to say Go● decreed that they should not obey but th●y use to speak thus God willed or decreed that sin should exist he himself permitting it or as some He willed the permission of sin Thirdly here is another mistake for as to some who hear the Gospel and harden their hearts beyond ordinary God in Iustice giveth them up to the power of unbeleef as a Spiritual judicial stroke or taketh away the Gospel from them a●d so Non-churcheth them and this as a punishment and as the Lord doth so in time so he decreed to do so therefore there was some consideration of sin here though sin was no procureing or meritorious cause of the decree At length he concludeth and saith further as if it were our opinion that God decreed to send the Gospel to such as obey it not only to accumulate their damnation Where is another mistake as if this were God's End or his only End and as if we affirmed it were so while as both are most false and contradicted by what himself said a little before 13. Thus have we briefly considered his Representation of our Judgment and have found no fewer than twelue abuses and untruths so that no honest man can acknowledge
this for a true declaration of the truth which we maintaine and with this open discovery of his unfaire dealing might we rest satisfied because it is to be presumed his following reasons can conclude only against this he hath laid forth as our judgment but as we have showne This is not our judgment and therefore his Ar●uments cannot touch us if they lavel at nothing but at this man of straw which he hath made for himself to shoot at Yet lest he boast as if we were not able to look his Reasons in the face we shall view them 14. He tels us that this is a new opinion there being no mention made thereof in the first four hundered yeers after Christ and that Augustin laid the first foundation thereof in his later writings out of zeal against the Pelagians and sowed some sayings which some have unhappily laid h●ld on to strengthen this errour whereby they contradict both truth and the sayings of Augustin and others Answ 1. This man would make us b●leeve that he had read all the Fathers that wrote before Augustine but we know whence he hath this for it is the old saying of Arminians But 2. This can conclude nothing against the Truth which we have seen asserted in the Scriptures of truth The Fathers in those ages had not to do with such hereticks as were the Pelagians Before that Enemy of the grace of God arose the Church was in p●ace as to these controversies and the Fathers had no occ●sion to debate such questions as Pelagius afterwards gave occasion unto Can he evince that all the Fathers before Augustine were of a contrary opinion to what we maintaine 3. Is this mans Religion grounded upon the authority of men And will he beleeve no more than what the Father 's said in the first foure ages Let him follow what cisterns he pleaseth we will satisfie ourselves with the Word as the ground of our Faith and we do look upon the Apostles as more ancient than these Fathers and take their positive assertions as of more authority than the silence of these 4. Yet Augustine de dono persever Cap. 11. citeth Ambrose Nazianzen and Cyprian as concurring with him in the ground of his doctrine of Predestination 5. as concerning Augustine what this man groundlesly suggesteth of him is the same he said before when speaking of Original sin and there we answered it 6. what contradictions are in our doctrine either unto Truth or unto Augustine he hath not showne Augustine it is true in his later dayes and after more mature deliberation and consideration of the matter occasioned by his disputs with the Pelagians did retract somethings said by himself in his younger yeers But all this is for the further Confirmation of the truth which we owne The Reader who desireth more satisfaction concerning this matter of Antiquity as to this point may consult the learned D. Twisse against Mr Hoord Sect. 1. 15. He next tels us that the Dominicans imbraced this Opinion And so he giveth us to understand that he is more pleased with the doctrine of the Iesuites But all except Pelagian-Arminians confesse that in these points the Dominicans are preferable to the Iesuites who are more downe right Enemies to the grace of God And then with a crocodile tear as it were in his eye he tels us with an Alas that Calvin éspoused this opinion and addeth that he wronged his name much hereby But with none of the orthodox I am confident for as to what this Quaker and his Arminians say in this we value it not He addeth that hereby the Christian and Protestant Religion was defamed And yet the world heard of no such thing but by Papists Iesuites Arminians who is bound to regard their scandal who are blinde leaders of the blinde must truth be foresaken because these Enemies to the grace of God like it not He confesseth that the Synod o● Dort did defend our opinion but addeth that notwithstanding it is exploded by the major part of learned and pious men in all the Churches of Protestants We know indeed that too many nowadayes are turning from the truth and imbraceing Pelagian Iesuitical and Arminian errours but that they make up the major part we deny possibly he will take in the Lutherans but we account them not Reformed Protestants 16. But Pag. 66. he tels us he would not much regaird all this if our opinion had any ground in the word And we have shown that it hath good ground there Then he saith that it is most injurious unto God If this be true it must certanly be an Errour but how is this made good It maketh saith he God the Author of sin An heavy charge if true yet this is so clear thi●keth he as that two and one make three But a Quakers confidence following a blinde guide is no strong argument to us let us hear his reason If saith he the Lord decreed that these predestinate ones should perish having no respect unto their evil actions but out of his meer good pleasure and if he also decreed long before they did exist or in any capacity did either good or evil that they should be in these sins by which secondarily they were to be led unto that end who is the first Author and cause of this our God who so willed and decreed it then which there cannot be a more necessary consequence Answ. 1. The word Predestinate being usually taken in a good sense as meaned of these Elected to glory the man vents his gall in thus misapplying the word to render the truth Odious 2. Though no consideration of sin was or could be the Meritorious Moving or Procureing cause of God's eternal decree yet when he decreed to puni●h everlastingly th● Reprobat for their sinnes he cannot be said to have no respect to sin in his decree as he here alleigeth who considereth not well what he sayeth 3. Though he decreed to punish everlastingly for sin such and such persons and none else meerly out of his owne good will and pleasure yet he cannot be said to have had no respect to sin which punishment alwayes presupposeth and answereth unto 4 If God's decrees be not before man exist or do any good or evil they cannot be Eternal but Temporal and so this man is a Socinian and the decree of God concerning every individual person must exist when the man hath done good or evil and so as many men as many decrees nay according to this man the Lord can make no decree concerning the Everlasting state of man so long as he liveth and so not only we cannot but God himself cannot say to or of any man before the point of death that he is a Reprobate or an Elect what Apprehensions these men have of God I tremble to express 5. What he meaneth by these words ut in iniquitatibus illis versarentur I know not unless their meaning be as I have expressed it And what would he then make
therefore I shall say againe O man who art thou that repliest against God c. Art thou also offended that God hath given thee an immortal soul and made thee a man out of the same lump of clay out of which he made the beast Why art thou then angry that God out of the same lump maketh one a vessel of honour and another a vessel of wrath fitted to destruction But next will he say that all men naturally can Beleeve and Repent and fulfill the conditions upon which salvation is offered Yes this he must say or he saith nothing against us here and then he must be as much a Pelagian as ever Pelagius was himself Then Faith is not the gift of God but of ourselves contrare to Ephes. 2. v. 9. and other Scriptures above cited Then Faith is not the faith of God's elect contrare to Tit. 1 1. Then a natural man and he that is in the flesh can please God contrare to Rom. 8 8. Then the natural man can receive the things of the Spirit of God contrare to 1 Cor. 2 14 Then he contradicteth all his owne doctrine formerly examined Chap. v. Then we need not pray for faith and Repentance or a Circumcised heart or Regeneration or a New heart or an heart of flesh nor give God thanks for any of these things because they are all in our owne power and then the Beleever maketh himself to differ contrare to 1 Cor. 4 7. What a contradiction this is to the whole Gospel and to the whole tenor thereof no man that hath once read it can be ignorant We thank him this once for this plaine and ingenuous insinuation This may help us to understand him better in what is following But if he say that they can do what is required by the help of the grace of God He knoweth that we say so but his Aggravations here have a far other tendency for his instance of the beasts of Pharaohs carriage were else utterly impertinent Nay what meaneth the man to compare the matter unto Pharaoh's withdrawing of straw yea and make it worse Say we that God taketh away that Grace to beleeve and Repent that wicked men would as faine have as the Israelites would have had straw or that Reprobation maketh men unbeleevers against their will and taketh away the Power and Grace to beleeve which they had It is little wonder that this man who dar thus open his mouth against heaven spew out lies and calumnies against us We must beare it knowing that he will come to Judgment and that our Doctrine is consonant to that Rev. 22 17. and whosoever will let him take of the waters of life freely and to that Ioh. 6 37. and him that cometh to me I will in no wayes cast out 25. He proceedeth in his calumnies and saith P. 69. That by our doctrine we place Mankinde in the same state that the Poets feigned Tantalus to be in who being thirsty was placed in water to his chinne so that he could not drink And why because we say that the works of creation and providence among heathens are not to bring them to salvation but only to convince them of sin so serve for their condemnation Answ. 1. But what hath this to do with Reprobation The man in his rage runneth himself blinde that he knoweth not what he saith 2 Do Heathens make up all mankinde 3. Are the Heathen as desirous of Salvation and of the Crown of Glory of which they never once heard and of the Grace of Faith in Christ of whom they never heard a report as Tantalus was of drinking the water that did run by his lip as the verse might have minded him Tantalusà labris sitiens fugientia captat pocula If not is the man so transported with passion that he seeth not his palpable impertinency 4. we see then that according to his Opinion the works of Creation and Providence are as effectual meanes to save the Heathen as the Gospel is to save such as hear it and by these may Heathens come as soon to glory as such as live under the Gospel by it why then came Christ into the world Was it that the works of Creation and Providence might become preachers of the Gospel and of Salvation but we will possibly hear more of this afterward He addeth that we say the preaching of the Gospel the use of sacraments prayers c. suffice to condemne Reprobats that live within the visible church and that they are all ineffectual unto them by reason of a secret impotency which they had from their infancy c. Ans. 1. Here still more Pelagianisme for he would say that all within the visible Church are borne able to beleeve the Gospel and do duties required therein 2. That the peaching of the Gospel is to many the favoure of death we are told by Paul 2. Cor. 2 16. and that it tendeth to the aggravation of their guilt and condemnation we heard lately out of Christ's owne mouth 3. Is he angry with us because we will not say that every mothers son that heareth the Gospel can beleeve and obey the same without the grace of God or because we will not say that Christ hath given sufficient grace to all that heare the Gospel to Believe and Obey Let him be angry with the Scriptures if he dar for we speak according to them that ●els us all men have not faith 2 Thes. 3 2. and ●hat faith is of God's elect Tit. 1 1. and that no man can come unto the Son but whom the Father draweth Ioh 6 44. That many beleev not because they are not of Christ's sheep Ioh. 10 26. That there is a necessity of regeneration Ioh. 3 3 5 6. and that the carnal minde is enmity against God f●r it is not subject to the law of God neither indeed can be Rom. 8 7. And many moe such things see Ioh. 12 39. Act. 13 48. 28 24 25 26 27. Mat. 13 11 12 13 14 15 16. Rom. 11 7 8 9. 4. As for his making the case of the wicked that hear the Gospel the same with Tantalus's we shall only tell him that if he can prove that any Reprobat hath as great and vehement a desire unto salvation by Christ as it is offered in the Gospel as Tantalus had to drink and yet it is denyed unto them meerly upon the account of their being Reprobate then his comparison is apposite But if that be an untruth as it is his argueing from Tantalus's case is a mere forged calumny We openly declare according to the tenor of the Gospel that he who is a thirst may come and drink of the water of life freely Revel 22 vers 17. Esai 55 vers 1 2 3. Mat. 11. vers 28. Ioh. 7 vers 37. 26. Thus we have examined all which this Man hath thought fit to cull out of the writings of Pelagians and Arminians and present his Reader with for no other end but to
render the Truth we owne odious for neither doth he tell us his owne Judgment concerning this nor would he on●e consider what grounds we walk upon or speak one word to the passages of Scripture upon which we ground our Opinion Thought he that his Readers would not be in case to take notice of his fraudulent and unfaithful dealing It is well that he hath written this in latine for the world is no stranger unto the debates betwixt the Orthodox on the one hand and Pelagians Socinians Arminians and Iesuites on the other But we proceed unto the examination of his following Thesis CHAP. VIII Of Universal Redemption 1. Our Quaker having as we heard laid by and taken out of the way so far as he could the Principal and Fundamental discriminating Purpose of God in denying for any thing we could observe all Eternal Electi●n and Reprobation and having thereby homologated with Arminians as also with Socinians who run upon Universalities as abhoring all Specialities and Discriminating Acts exclusive of any except what Lord Free will doth and of which this Absolute and Supream Lord is master and disposer and therefore Assert in the first place An Vniversal Love and good will in God to all and every mothers son of the race of Mankinde He proceedeth in showing us how in the rest of their Universalities he is their friend and therefore talketh not only of an Vniversal Ransome Price paid for all Adam's posterity by Christ of which he speaketh next but proceedeth as we shall hear to hold forth an Vniversal Covenant of free grace made with all the sones of Adam though he be pleased to give us it in other termes and an Vniversal Call and Gospel as also Vniversal Grace by which every one may if he will lay hold on the offer and be saved and withall he giveth us a Salvation among Heathens as we shall heare 2. When he rejected Election Reprobation Absolute he made way and laid a good foundation for this other Errour of Vniversal Redemption for these two cannot well be separated however some of late would maintaine this Universal Redemption and withall assert an Election of grace whereby the Lord made choice of so many as pleased him whom he would certainly redeem and bring to glory which I cannot see how they can consonantly and satisfyingly hold unless they can prove out of Scripture two distinct Covenants betwixt Jehovah and the Mediator two distinct and different Ends of Christ's death Two distinct Prices laid down and Two distinct Purchases made if the one could well be called a purchase Two Satisfactions Christ a Cautioner and no-Cautioner a Redeemer and no-Redeemer an absolute Saviour and a Conditional Saviour c. But the Scripture cleareth no such thing to us for any thing I see 3. As concerning the point of Vniversal Redemption we finde various sentiments or various explications of the matter given to us by Adversaries for they do not all agree in their apprehensions of the thing Some explaine the mat●er thus God sent his only begotten Son to be a Redeemer and Propitiator for Adam and all his Posterity who by his death did pacifie an angry God and restore Mankinde to their lost inheritance so as all who are now condemned are not condemned for their former sins and guilt for Christ hath abundantly satisfied for these but for their Unbeleef for not beleeving in th● Redeemer of the world and for rejecting the Reconciliation made the grace of God declared in the word And thus they must say that Christ hath died for all sinnes but Unbeleefe and that salvation doth not certainly follow upon this Reconciliation and so that it is rather a Reconciliableness than a Reconciliation and they must necessarily maintaine that this matter is revealed unto all and every son of Adam who otherwise cannot be guilty of Rejecting this reconciliation other wayes it shall be of no advantage to them unless they say that the want of the Revelation putteth them out of a capacity of being guilty of Unbeleefe and so they must necessarily be saved and thus their condition shall be undoubtedly better than is the condition of such as hear the Gospel and then the revelation of the Gospel shall be no Favour but a Prejudice rather And in reference to this they devise an Universal and Antecedanious Love whereby God out of his Infinite Goodness was inclined to desire the happiness and salvation of every mothers son and therefore to send his Son to die for all as if God had such Natural and Necessary Inclinations and as if all his Love to Mankinde and every appointment of his concerning us were not the free act of his good pleasure and as if there were any such Antecedent and Conditional will in God that could or might have no issue or accomplishment but as Lord Free will would and as if the Love that sent C●rist were only such a Poor Conditional Inclination towards all Mankinde which the Scripture holdeth forth as the greatest of Loves and as the ground of all the Effects and Grants which mans full Salvation calleth for But why could not this Love effectuat the good of all Therefore they tell us that Iustice being injured by sin unless it were satisfied that Love of God whereby he wisheth well to all sinners could effectuat nothing as to the recovery of any and upon this ground they imagine Christ was sent to make an Universal Atonement and so Iustice being satisfied might not obstruct the salvation of any whose Free will would consent unto termes of new to be proposed 4. Others hold forth the matter thus Christ according to the eternal Counsel of God did properly die for this end and by his propitiatory sacrifice obtaine that all and every man who beleeve in Him should for his sake actually obtaine Remission of sins and Life Eternal but others in case they would Repent and Beleeve might obtaine it But thus we hear no word of Christs obtaining any thing to any in particular no word of his obtaining Faith and Repantence and what Counsel of God can this be to send Christ to die for persons upon that condition which he knew they would not and could not performe And what by this meanes hath Christs Propitiatory Sacrifice obtained more than a meer possibility of salvation to either one or other Shall we imagine that God designeth good to persons who shall never enjoy it Or that God hath Conditional Intentions and Designes By this means Christs death was designed and no person designed thereby to be saved yea Christ should be designed to die and that for no certain end unless to procure a meer possibility by stopping the mouth of justice that it should not stand in the way but then we can not say that God sent Christ to die for Any man much less for All. 5. Others express the matter thus Christ out of the gracious Decree and Purpose of God did undergoe death that he might procure and
giving life unto the World of them that the Father hath given him and shall come to him Ioh. 6 33 37. They are these concerning whom the Fathers will was as being given of him that he should lose nothing but raise it up againe at the last day ver 38 39 40. The Redeemed ones that are numbered by God 144000. and are the first fruites unto God and the Lamb Revel 14 3 4 5. They are such as are the Lords and whom the Lord knoweth for his 2 Tim. 2 19. and are enrolled in the Lambs book Revel 13 8. and 20 15. See other particularities Psal. 87 5. Esai 43 1. and 49 12. and 19 18.24 25. Zeph 3 10. So are they designed to be these for whom God is and who shall have unquestionably all things the Elect who shall be justified who shall not be separated from the love of Christ are in all things more then Conquerours Rom. 8 31 32 33 34 37 38 39. These with whom the Covenant shall be confirmed Dan. 9 27. The redeemed out of every Kinred and Tongue and People and Nation and made Kings and Priests Revel 5 9 10. 22. Further 11 if Christ died for the sinnes of all persons how cometh it that they are not all actually pardoned It cannot be said that Christ's death was not a satisfactory price nor that the Father did not accept of it If then he shed his blood for the remission of sins Mat. 26 28. are not all these sins pardoned virtually and fundamentally or shall they not all actually be pardoned in due time If it be said they shall be pardoned upon condition of their faith But if the sinnes of all be equally payed for and equally in a virtual manner discharged in Christ's being actually discharged from that debt in the day of his Resurrection and the actual disharge depending upon the uncertain condition of mans Will man who willingly performeth the condition shall praise himself for the actual pardon and none else for Christ did no more for him as to the Actual Pardon than for others who never shall be blessed with actual forgiveness and yet forgiveness is held forth as a special act of free grace forgivenesse of sinnes is according to the riches of his grace Ephes. 1 7. Moreover as to that condition whether did Christ purchase it or not If he did not purchase it than man is not beholden to Christ for the Condition be it faith or what ye will it is no purchased mercy but man is beholden to his good Lord Free Will for it and so he may sacrifice to his own net and sing glory to himself for making himself to differ and for obtaining to himself Actual Remission of all his sinnes and consequently blessedness Rom. 4 v. 6 7 8. for had not his owne well disposed Lord Free Will performed that condition all that Christ did had never more advantaged him than it did others that perish If it be said that grace to performe the condition though it be not purchased by the blood of Christ yet it is freely given by God to whom he will I Answer Not to insist here on the proof of faith's being purchased by Christ because we shall cleare it afterward and there is nothing else assigned for the condition I would enquire whether Christ knew to whom this grace would be given or not if not then we must deny him to be God if he knew why shall we suppose that he would lay down his life equally for all when he knew before hand that many should never get grace to performe the condition upon which his death should redound to their actual pardon and justification what Ends or what Advantages can we imagine of such an Universal Redemption 23. 12. If the condition upon which actual pardon justification is granted in the blood of Christ be purchased by Christ then either all shall certainly be Pardoned Justified or Christ hath not purchased an Equal Common Possible Redemption to all and every man But the former is true it is not true that all shall certainly be pardoned and actually justified for then all should be glorified That the condition to wit Faith and Repentance is purchased by Christ who can deny seing he is expresly called the Author of Faith Heb. 12 2. and a Prince exalted to give Repentance and forgiveness of sins Act 5.31 So that as forgiveness of sins is founded upon his death as the Meritorious cause so must Repentance be and Christ as an exalted Prince and Saviour hath this power to dispose of his owne purchased legacy which he hath left and ensured by his death unto the heires of salvation Upon his Death and Satisfaction made in his death hath he gote all power in heaven and earth a power to quicken whom he will Mat. 28 ●8 Ioh. 5 21 22 27. Phil. ● 9 10 Hence we are said to be compleat in him Col 2 10. to be blessed with all spiritual blessings in ce●estials to which no doubt faith and Repentance do belong in him Ephes. 1 3 Is it not from hence that the divine power hath given unto us all things that pertaine unto life and godliness 2 Pet. 1 3 Nay Paul tels us expresly Phil. 1 29. that it is given to us in the behalfe of Christ to beleeve on him And certainly there is a promise of Faith and Repentance and all the promises are yea and amen in Him 2 Cor. 1 20. all the Blessings contained in the Covenant are made sure by his death who was the surety of this better Testament Heb. 7 2● and this Testament was to have force by his death Heb. 9 15 16 17 18. and the New heart and heart of flesh is promis●d in the Covenant and comprehendeth Faith and Repentance they being some of his lawes which he hath also promised to write in the heart Ier. 31 33. Heb. 8 10. Ezech. 11 19 20. 36 26 27. We have moreover seen that Sanctification and Holiness from which Faith Repentance cannot be separated were purchased by Christ and intended in his death whence he is made of God unto us Sanctification 1 Cor. 1 30. If it be not purchased by Christ how come we by it is it a thing in our Power and an act of our owne Free Will Then as I said before we are beholden to ourselves for Faith and all that follow upon it and then farewell all Prayer for Faith and Repentance all Thanksgiving to God for it This is pure Pelagianisme If it be said that it is the free gift of God Ephes. 2 8. and a Consequent of electing love I Answere all the fruites of election which are to be wrought in us are procured by the blood of Christ for all are conveyed to us in a Covenant whereof Christ is the Mediator and Surety and with Christ he giveth us all things Rom. 8 32. and we are blessed in Him with all spiritual blessings according as he hath chosen
the new covenant 13. Universal proper Fruits and Effects of this death whereby all the outward favours that Heathens enjoy are said to be purchased for them by Christ and why not also what Devils enjoy 47. Finally 36. This assertion of Universal Redemption laith the ground of and maketh way to a new frame of the Covenant of Grace quite overturning its Nature and transforming it into a new covenant of works making it one and the same with that as to kinde and only to differ as to the change of conditions to be performed by man for as in the first covenant Adam was to obtaine right to and possession of life promised in by for through and upon the account of his fulfilling the condition of perfect obedience imposed by the Lord so in the New covenant man is to obtaine and acquire to himself a right to and possession of the Life promised in by for through and upon the account of his performance of the Condition of Faith and new obedience now imposed in the Gospel and all the difference is that instead of perfect obedience to the which was the condition of the first covenant now Faith and sincere Gospel Obedience is made the condition And thus we can no less be said to be justified by works of the Law or which we do then Adam should have been said to have been so justified had he stood and this justification giveth as great ground of boasting unto man and of making the reward of debt and not of grace as justification by the first covenant would have done for though it be said that Christ hath made satisfaction to justice for the breach of the first Law and thereby purchased to all upon Condition Iustification Salvation yet this removeth not the difficulty for what is purchased by Christ's death is made Universal Common to all and so can be nothing according to our Adversaries but a putting of all men in statu quo prius in case to run obtaine the prize for themselves as God's absolute free love put Adam in that condition at first Christ's death though thereby as they say he purchased the New Covenant which with them is the chiefe if not the only effect and fruit of his Death Merites can be no more than a very remote ground of Right to Life and Salvation unto any person for it is made Universal Common to all so that all have equal share therein and advantage thereby man himself by performing the new conditions only making the difference so that the immediat ground of the Right to life which any have is their own Faith and Obedience or performance of the New Covenant-conditions Whereby it is manifest that as to our Particular and Immediat Right to Happiness we are to plead our own works lean to them as our ground whereupon we may stand and appear before God's Tribunal and upon the account thereof plead for the crown as our due debt having now run for it performed the condition agreed upon and so sing praises to ourselves instead of singing praises to our Redeemer Hence the righteousness wherein we must appear before God is not the Righteousness of Christ but our own for the Righteousness of Christ say they is only imputed in regaird of its effects whereof the new Covenant is the All or the Chiefe and so that doth not become the Righteousness of any man nor can be said to be imputed to any man properly which also they assert but his own Faith is only imputed properly which also they plead for as his Righteousness not as a Way Medium or Methode of Gospel-Righteousness especially when Gospel-Obedience is adjoyned The Righteousness of Christ bein● hereby only accounted to be imputed in that it hath procured that our own Gospel Righteousness Faith and new Obedience shall be imputed to us as our Immediat Righteousness the ground of our Right to Glory What accord is betwixt this frame of the Covenant of Grace and that way of justification held forth by Socinians Arminians Papists the learned will easily see and how contrary it is to the Covenant of Grace held forth in the Gospel hitherto professed maintained by the orthodox every one acquan●ed therewith cannot be ignorant it is obvious how opposite this is unto w●at the Apostle saith Phil. 3 8 9. yea doubtless and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Iesus my Lord for whom I have suffered the loss of all things and do count them but dung that I may win Christ and be found i● him not having mine own Righteousness which is of the Law but that which is through the faith of Christ the Righteousness which is of God by faith And Tit. 3 5 6 7. Not by works of Righteousness which we have done but according to his mercy he saved us by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost which he shed on us abundantly through Iesus Christ our Saviour that being justified by his grace we should be made heires according to the hope of eternal life And Rom. 3 20 21 22 24. Theref●re by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified but now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Iesus Christ unto all and upon all them that beleeve being justified freely by his grace through the Redemption that is in Iesus Christ. And many other places It is no less clear how hereby the true nature of justifying faith and Gospel obedience is perverted and with all how dangerous this is if put into practice or if men act ilve accordingly every serious exercised Christian knoweth 48. Having thus briefly laid down our grounds for a Particular and against an Universal Redemption we come to see what our Quaker sayeth for Universal Redemption which he supposeth to be so clearly asserted in Scripture that hardly any other article of Christian Religion can compare with it as to this but the confidence of a Quaker acted and led by a Spirit of delusion is no convincing argument to me Let us see his grounds He citeth Luk. 2 10. addeth He sayeth not to a few of the people but if the comeing of Christ had not brought a Possibility of Salvation unto all it might rather have bin called tideings of great griefe to the m●st part of the people Answ. If Christ had only brought a Possibility of salvation with him the Gospel had bin the tideings of joy to no flesh for Salvation upon a Condition Impossible is no salvation 2. Did Christ bring a Possibility with him to the damned if not where is his Universal Redemption 3 It is said here to be to all people because the Offer and Meanes thereof were not now to be limited to one Nation of the Jewes as formerly but the Lord was to have a people out of all Kinreds Nations Tongues Languages yet
the first sense and consideration the Gospel is in the hand of God alone for He hath made a certane firme connexion betwixt Grace Glory Faith and Salvation Justification and Sanctifi●ation Vocation Effectual and Justification and Adoption and betwixt all these and Final Redemption and Glorification And He in the time and manner which please him best worketh the one for bringing the other to passe He Calleth whom h● will and Iustifieth whom he will and Sanctifieth whom he will that he may Glorifie whom he will so that in this respect we must look on all these blessings as ordained for the same individual persons and look on the death of Christ the meriteing and procureing cause of these rich Favours and Blessings as only intended for them whom he intendeth to glorifie and must also look on the whole Gospel as intended for them But as to the Gospel considered in the second sense it is the Ministry and Word of Reconciliation committed unto Men 2 Cor 5 18 19. who as Ambassadours for Christ must pray in Christ's stead that people would be reconciled to God vers 20. The dispensation of the Gospel is committed unto them 1 Cor. 9 17. Ephes. 3 2. And because even these dispensators ministers of Christ and stewards of the mysteries of God 1 Cor. 4 1. being but men and unacquanted with the secrets of the Decrees and Counsels of God must speak to all indefinitely beseech all exhort all and every man without exception of those they are sent unto and laboure to present every man perfect in Christ and to wooe them to Christ and to espouse them to one husband that they may present them as a chaste virgin to C●rist 2 Cor. 11 2. Col. 1 25 28. It is then a groundless mistake to inferre the Universality of the Purpose of God from the Universality of the Offer or to think that Christ died for all and every one because ministers must dispense the word and hold forth Christ as an al sufficient mediator and command all and every one to whom they preach to beleeve and repent It is unreasonable to make the will of God as the supream and absolute Disposer of all things and his will as the only supream Lawgiver to be of the same complexion and latitude or to inferre the one from the other for that were to commensurate Duty with the Event as if nothing could come to passe but what were duty and nothing duty but what came to passe 58. Once more sixtly we would consider some further designe which the Lord hath in holding forth the matter in his Word and in the mouth of his Servants in such ample termes to wit to encourage poor souls to approach and lay hold upon the offer that is held forth in such indefinite termes that none upon any real ground may shift themselves from under the reach of the tender of the Gospel who have a minde to the bargain Hence it is not alwayes said that Christ died for the elect for poor souls under the conviction of guilt and assaul●ed with the fea●es of hell are ready enough to conclu●e themsel●es Reprobates and to hearken to the temptations of Satan suggesting this and so to their owne prejudice reason themselves out of the reach of Mercy and of the Merites of the death of Christ Therefore hath the Lord in the depth of his Wisdom and Goodness so contrived the letter of the Gospel that though there be sufficient evidence of the truth concern●ng the extent of the death of Christ as a price and a ransome to justice for the full comfort and establish●ng of the hea●ts of beleevers yet the matter is held forth in its Administration and Dispensation by men in such general termes as may give encouragement to such souls keep them from desperat despondency of Spirit for though they cannot see as neither are they warranted at the first to enquire and be anxious about it but to hearken to the word of command obey ●he call that they are among the number of the Elect yet they can see and are convin●ed that they are sinners and therefore is Christ said to die for the ungodly and for sinners Rom 5 6 8. and it is said that he came into the world to save sinners 1 Tim. 1 15. And if this should not satisfie as an awakened soul assaul●ed with temptations of Satan can devise many evasions and shifts to its owne hurt and disadvantage yet they cannot but croud themselves in among Men and men and women that will come are not excluded and among the World hence the world is mentined in this matter Ioh. 1 29. 3 16. 6 51. 1 Ioh. 2 2. Not that God designed or Christ came to die for the whole World or to take away the sinnes of the whole world or to be a propitiation for the whole world for this would say that he came to redeem Devils and to take away the sinnes of Beasts and Birds c because they come under the word World as well as men but that in the administration of the Gospe● which is not now confined to one land as of old to Iury Psal. 76 1. But is extended without restriction indefinitely to all nations Ministers may be allowed to offer peace in the Gospel to all indefinitely to whom they are sent to preach and people may be the more encouraged to come over difficulties and not to hearken to temptations to hold them aback from Christ the Peace maker Thus I suppose this difficulty is sufficiently taken out of the way 59. We proceed now to consider what he saith further Together with 1 Tim. 2. to which passage we have spoken he cited also Ioh. 3 16. would have us compare with it 1 Ioh. 4 9. all which he sayeth of both is this whosoever here is an indefinite terme whereby none are excluded And what can all this say An indefinite terme is not universal unless it be in a necessary matter as this is not 1 Ioh. 4 9. we are told that in this was manifested the love of God towards us because that God sent his only begotten son into the world that we might live through him H●re is no indefinite terme nor is the world here the same with the world Ioh. ● 16. as every common understanding may see for here it denoteth the Habitable World which containeth inhabitants and in the other place it denoteth the Inhabitants themselves and beside I suppose he will not say that God sent his son into the habitable world out of this designe and intentation that all the inhabitants thereof should live through him that is live the life of Grace and of Glory for all men have not Faith and al● men will not be Saved and what should disappo●nt God of his Intentions is he not able to accomplish his Designes If it be said that mans unbeleefe standeth in the way I answere Though mans unbeleef standeth in the way of his owne salvation
light for this effect which consideration moderateth our astonishment at the Boldness and Confidence of the Q●akers and particularly of this their Patron in this matter 4. When he cometh to explaine this proposition Pag. 82. § 12. he tels us what he meaneth by this day and time of visitation that God hath granted unto all men And negatively he sayes he doth not mean every man's tearme of life though as to some as for example the penitent thiefe it may extend so far But wherein consisteth this visitation This was the chiefe thing that was here to be explained we must it seems waite for his meaning till a fitter season afterward A day of gracious visitation and invitation in the Gospel offer we acknowledge But what it is which is granted to the Heathens that can go under this name I am yet to learne knowing no dispensation of God that can be called a day of Visitation in reference to Salvation but what it is in and through the preaching of the Gospel which bringeth life and immortality to light and which therefore cannot be said to be granted to such as never heard of it 5. Then he tels us positively that it is only such a time in which God is sufficiently exonered of the condemnation of every man which may be longer to some and shorter to others as it seemeth good unto God according to his wisdom That no flesh shall have any ground of quarrelling with God I am past all doubt But if this man think that in some cases God is in hazard to be impanneled by man it concernes him to make this matter more plaine to us who see no such hazard and can apprehend no such danger If he learne any thing of this out of the Scriptures he would do well to acquaint us therewith if he have it only by Revelation I am not like to bottome my faith upon his said or supposed Revelations Sure I think he should have given us some other ground for all this difference that God maketh among men granting to some a longer day and to others a shorter day of Visitation than is the good pleasure of God for he cannot but know that we lay this down for a ground why some get no such day of Visitation I mean as to the preaching of the Gospel and yet this will not satisfy him and others of his kinde who take upon them with no small boldness to tell us of Rules of Justice of their owne imagining which God must not transgress What if some say That God is not Iust and Righteous enough if he grant not to all an equally long day of Visitation Will he think to satisfy them with saying So it seemeth good to God according to his Wisdom If so he must be very partial who will not accept of this answere out of our mouth when sure it may sufficiently serve to stop his mouth seing it can not helpe him to say that in the other case God should be less Unjust for in no degree how small so ever can God be Unjust But all this is but what some Papists say who will not have this sufficient grace alwayes at hand but say that some sinne it away as may be seen in Bellarmin Lib. 2. de Grat. Lib. Arb. 6. What becometh of them after this day He saith they may live after it but there is no Possibility of salvation for them and God suffereth them to be obdured as a just judgment for their infidelity and then he raiseth up such as instruments of his wrath and maketh them his rod against others But 1. May it not come to passe that such after that day may heare the Gospel preached no doubt he will say yea is not then the Lord mocking them when he inviteth them to Repentance Salvation after it is Impossible for them to Repent be saved If not why objected he this against our doctrine of Reprobation 2. Why is there no Possibility of Salvation Is it impossible for God to give them grace or hath their Free will gote such a crake or such a byasse as that it is impossible for them to run right Then they have in that case lost all Free will for his masters the Iesuites Arminians tell us that it is not Free will which cannot either will or nill as it please●h even all things requisite being present And if there be not Free will there can be nothing as they say but Necessity necessity taketh away all sin all conscience of sin 3. He saith God suffereth them to be obdured And is this all The Scripture speaketh more actively of the matter telling us that frequently too that Go● hardened the heart of Pharaoh See Exod. 7. 8. 9. 10. that he hardeneth whom he will Rom. 9 18. 4. But whether are they obdured before the day of Visitation be at an end or after if before then while they are Obdured salvation is possible If after then their day of Visitation ended before they were abdured then I would ask if sin procure this finishing of the day of their visitation or not and what sin it is seing it is not Hardness of heart Is it the sin of Infidelity but then seing persons are guilty of that at the first hearing of the Gospel not obeying beleeving eit●er this day endeth with the first proclamation of peace in the Gospel which is false seing many are and may be long Unbeleevers under the drop of the Gospel and after many yeers get grace to beleeve or not and then we would faine know when 5. By his mentioning of Infidelity●ere ●ere as the sin procureing God's permission of Obduration he seemeth to import that the day of Visitation calleth for faith an● I wish he had explained to us what he understandeth by faith and what is the Object and what are the Acts of this faith for hithertil I could observe nothing said by him that might informe me 6. But how can Infidelity be charged upon such as never heard the Gospel Doth the Scripture any where charge Infidelity upon such as lived without the pale of the C●urch 7. When the Lord gave up the Gentiles to uncleanness to vile affections and to a reprobat minde Rom. 1 24 26 28. Which I suppose he will think to be equivalent unto the Lords suffering them to be Obdured as he speaketh we hear that it is for other sins than want of Faith or for not improving the day of Visitation 8. what the last clause can import or for what end it is adduced I cannot well imagine Only I gather out of it and the preceding words That he cannot but say that God punisheth sin with sin and useth sinful men acting sin as his instruments as a rode in his hand and so must will that sin be in the world by his permission which is what our Divines say though on all occasions and without occasion offered he falleth soule upon them upon this
of his grace the soul lay hold on the offered salvation and accept of the alsufficient offered Mediator we utterly deny it affirming faith to be the pure gift of God wrought by the exceeding greatness of his power according to the working of his mighty power or according to the working of the might of his power Ephes. 1 19. 2 8. And that this faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God Rom 10 17. So that we see nor how any without the Church or the hearing of the word of God and of the word of the Gospel revealing Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God can beleeve not how any w●thin the Church and who hear the sound of the Gospel daily can beleeve without the grace of God working Faith by the Operation of his Spirit and thus concurring with the word And therefore we deny Salvation to be Possible in this Quakers sense to any yea even to the Elect otherwayes we must reject the Scriptures of truth and embrace the Pelagian Errour and lay aside all prayer for the Spirit of grace to work faith and only make our supplications to Lord Free will and think to batter the wals of Freewill with meer Moral Swasion as Iesuites Arminians and Socinians with the old Pelagians imagine and sacrifice to our own net and burn incense to our own drag Free will because by it our portion is fat and our meat plenteous And so give thanks with the damned to God that hath made salvation onely Possible but to ourselves alone for making it Actual and for obtaining the crown and prize 12. Having thus in short proposed our Judgment after hearing of his Opinion we come now to examine the proofs of his Proposition which he layeth down Pag. 93. c. § 19. And first in general he saith That it is manifest from the complaints which the Spirit of God useth in the Scriptures against such as perish chideing and reproving them for rejecting Gods visitation and love and refuseing his mercy Ans. 1. His Proposition is Universal and these Complaints an● Reproofs are only Particular viz. against such as were within the Church so they can prove nothing 2. Neither will these Reproofs c. prove that such had power and ability to embrace mercy and love offered unto them without the grace of God as say Iesuites and Arminians for the Scripture tels us that God must give the new heart Ier. 31 33 34. 32 39 40. Ezech. 11 19 20. 36 26 27 Heb. 8 10. and that none cometh to the Son but whom the Father draweth Ioh. 6 44 45. and that it is God that worketh in us both to will and to do Phil. 2 13. And to gather our Power and Ability out of the Commands and measure the one by the other is the very core of Pelagianisme and Arminianisme for upon this ground did Pelagius conclude that we could keep the whole Law perfectly as this man also saith Heare Pelagius himself ad Demetriadem cited by Vossius Histor. Pelag. lib. 5. part 1. Thes. 6. Duplici ignorantia accusamus Deum Inscientiae ut videatur nescire quod fecit nescire quod iussit quasi oblitus fragilitatis humanae cujus Author ipse est imposuerit homini mandata quae ferre non possit Simulque prô-nefas adscribimus Iniquitatem Iusto Pio Crudelitatem dum aliquid impossibile praecepisse conquerimur deinde pro his damnandum esse hominen ob ea quae vitare non potuit ut quod etiam suspicari Sacrilegium est videatur Deus non tam salutem nostram quaesisse quam poenam Itaque Apostolus sciens a Domino justitiae ac majestatis nihil impossibile esse praeceptum aufert a nobis vitium murmurandi quod tunc utique nascisolet cum aut iniqua sunt quae jubentur aut jubentis minus digna persona est Quid tergiversamur incassum Nemo magis novit mensuram virium nostrarum quam qui ipsas vires nobis dedit Nec quisquam melius quantum possimus intelligit quam qui ipsam virtutem nobis posse donavit nec impossibile aliquid voluit imperare qui justus est nec damnaturus hominem fuit pro eo quod vitare non potuit qui pius est Which in short is this That to say that God should command any thing which is not in our power to do were to accuse God of Ignorance as not knowing mans power and of Iniquity Cruelty and Sacrilege commanding that which he knew we could not do and thereafter condemning us for not doing of it This Quaker may see his owne face in this glass 13. He citeth further the words of God to Cain Gen. 4 6 7. and saith that this timeous admonition and promise of pardon upon condition he did well saith that he bad a day of visitation wherein it was possible for him to be saved That it was possible for Cain through the grace of God to have done well and obtained the excellency we affirme but that he had power without this grace all this admontion cannot prove so that as is said it is pure Pelagianisme for him to adde God could not propose that condition to do well to him if he had not given him sufficient strength to do well Had Pharaoh sufficiency of strength moral to let the people of Israel go when God had hardened his heart so as he should not let them go If not how could God send Moses to him with a word of command This man told us Thesis 4. That man in his Natural state could know nothing aright and that all his Imaginations Words and Actions were evil and only evil continually Now I enquire if such a man can be said to have sufficiency of strength to know God and things divine and to do well If not then it seemeth by this mans doctrine here that God can impose no command upon such to know God and to do well We know that God giveth the heart to perceive eyes to see and eares to hear Deut. 29 4. and that the carnal minde is enmity against God for it is not subject to the Law of God neither indeed can be Rom. 8 7. And that the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God for they are foolishness unto him neither can he know them becauss they are spiritually discerned 1 Cor. 2 14. He citeth to the same purpose Gen. 6 3. And we deny not that the Spirit speaking after the manner of men for such expressions cannot b● understood properly of God is said to contend with men to wit by his Word and Servants whom he sendeth forth to deal with men in his name So did he thus strive long with this old world by his messengers the Patriarches particularly by Noah called a preacher of righteousness 2 Pet. 2 5. But what of this This day of Visitation saith he which he granteth to every one is such as therein the Lord is said to waite and be
shown if it were worth so much paines let any who will Rea● the Jesuite Didacus Ruiz de Praedestinatione dispp 39 40.41.42.43.44.45 and especially disp 46. de Barbaris and he shall finde this Quakers doctrine at full length CHAP. X. Of Universal Grace and Light 1. We come to examine his Second Proposition containing a further piece of their divinity which he expresseth thus Pag. 79. § 11. That God for this end did comunicate and give to every man a certane measure of the Light of his Son a measure of grace or some manifestation of the Spirit which hath several names in Scripture as the seed of the kingdom Mat 13 18 19 light manifesting all things Ephes. 5 13. the word of God Rom. 10 18 the manifestation of the Spirit given to every one 1 Cor. 12.7 the talent Mat. 25.14 the Gospel preached to every creature Col 1 23 Ans. This must be a strange and wonderfull thing that is both Grace Gifts which are inward and placed in the soul the Word of God the Gospel which is outward preached declared to the eares of people what can we make of this or what can we understand by it Nay this with them is the Spirit of God it is Christ God Father Son holy Ghost and what not This I take to be peculiar to the Quakers for neither Pelagians nor Socinians nor Arminians nor any of their followers nor Iesuite ever spoke at this rate of non-sense vented to the world such Inconsistencies which are rather the foamings of a distracted braine than the discoursings of men in their wits how heterodox so ever But is it not strange that this man should imagine these things to be common to all mankinde The seed of the kingdom I no where read of but of the word of the kingdom which is compared to seed and was this word preached to all nations from the beginning of the word Or is it to this day sowen in all nations even amongst Heathens in Iapan other Regions Territories in the East West Indees or among the Turks Cannibals By whom I pray and upon whose testimony must we believe this The word of God Rom. 10 17. is the word that is heard preached by such as are sent whose feet are beautifull vers 15. by which faith cometh calling upon God vers 13 14 17. Is this common to all Nations The manifestation of the Spirit spoken of 1 Cor. 12. is concerning gifts peculiarly enumerated vers 8 9 10. such as the word of wisdom the word of knowledge faith gifts of healing working of miracles Prophecy discerning of spirits diverse kindes of tongues and interpretation of tongues And are these common to all men or were they then common to all the world Nay doth not the Apostle expresly restrick them to the Church of which he is there speaking in which the Lord did set Officers endued with these gifts vers 28 expresly say that they were not common even to all the members of the Church as may be seen through that chapter particularly vers 29 30 beside that the scope of the whole irrefragably evinceth this As for the talent mentioned Mat. 25. We spoke of it in the preceeding chapter And that Gospel whereof Paul speaketh Col. 1. Was that which he was sent to preach to all indefinitely as providence which sometimes stood in the way of his endeavouring to preach it somewhere as we see Act. 16 6 7. ordered it and which is called vers 26. the mystery which hath bin hid from ages and generations but now is made manifest to the saints Was this common to all before Christ came is it common to all this day How shall it be evinced that this Gospel is thus Universal will he take that word every Creature under heaven vers 23. without any limitation Then he must s●y that Paul preached this Gospel to Devils to Beasts all creatures without sense as well as to Men. But if he will restrick it let it be according to Reason we are satisfied his designe is crossed for as we cleared above Chap. VIII these Universals must be interpreted according to the nature of the thing spoken of the circumstances of the place so it will here but import an indefinite mission among the Gentiles and is an hyperbolick expression of the vast extension of the tydings of salvation now under the Gospel administration in comparison of what it was un●er the law when restricked to the limites of one kingdom to the posterity of Abraham Isaak Iacob with a few Proselites 2. To keep us from startling at the non-sense of the Proposition we have more more of that kinde to meet with in the further explication thereof set down in several Pages from Pag. 82. § 13. to Pag. 92. And though some may justly blame me for wasteing words spending time upon such a Nonsensical Self-contradictory Proposition yet considering that here lyeth the core of their delusions and that which though not as to mater yet as to expressions is peculiar to the Quakers and common to them all the Reader must have patience and heare all and then he will be better able to judge 3. He beginneth then Pag. 82. § 13. tels us That this Seed Grace word of God and light with which every man is enlightened and a measure of which every one hath in order to Salvation and which by mans pertinaciousness and the malignity of his will may be resisted extinguished wounded suppressed killed crucified is not the proper essence and nature of God considered in it self Before we enter upon a particular discussion of this mans words we conceive it will be of use to helpe us to understand him the better if he may be understood at all in this chiefe part of their heretical doctrine to take notice of some expressions of other Quakers concerning this Light and Seed of which they speak so much Mr Hicks in his dialogue giveth us some account of some of their expressions in this mater Dial. 1. Pag 3. G. Whitehead said in him was life the life was the light of men If the life be the divine essence the light must be so also for such as the cause such the effect must be And Againe Pag. 4. The light within must be God because to deny it so to be is to deny the Omnipresence of God Thus the light is the Essence of God the Omnipr●sence of God And againe G. W. reasoned thus The divine life is immutable To say then the light within is not God is to say God is mutable Therefore it is blasphemy to deny the light within to be God Yea Pag. 5. he tels that one Robert West called the denying to worship the measure of light in every man damnable heresie and said that the Spirit which God breathed into Adam was not mans spirit but another the breath of our nostrils the anoynted
acquanted with griefe who was wounded for our transgressions and bruised for our iniquities who was brought as a lamb to the slaughter and made his soul an offering for sin and poured it out unto death who bore the wrath of God due for sin and was crucified at Ierusalem But the Christ whom they command us to believe in is a Christ borne with every man that came into the world since the beginning that is neither God nor Man could neither suffer nor die nor satisfie justice So that their Christ is a Christ that the Gospel no where maketh mention of yea against which every Chapter and verse in a manner of the whole Old and New Testament beareth witness 7. He tels us that they exhort all men to beleeve in this Light and obey it And what can the Faith of or Obedience to this Light do Did ever this light teach or require of Aristotle and the wisest of the Heathens as Plato Seneca Cicero Pythag●ras and others Faith in the Messias or in Iesus Christ promised or at length exhibited and crucified Is that light Christ crucified and Satisfying justice and paying the Penalty of the Law and broken Covenant What desperat mischievous madness is this what horrid abomination do these men preach hold forth 8. He tels us that Christ is born and risen in every man and all their preaching is to exhort them to know him and yet he told us before that this was the work and proper effect of this Light and if this effect be already wrought in every man in no one person is this light resisted and suppressed and he needeth not preach and exhort every man to beleeve in this light and obey it for that is done in every man already having Christ formed in him and arisen in h●m Behold how their abominable doctrines cannot hang together but are ropes of sand yea crosse and contradict one another 9 Then he tels us that it delivereth them from all sinnes Then Heathens have a Christ within sufficient to purge and take away all sin Then all must be saved for who ever is delivered from sin cannot but be saved O what devilish doctrine must this be It may be a doubt if the Devil appearing in mens bodies and coming to preach among people could broach more damnable and soul-destroying Tenets than these are O! what times are ●hes● we live in wherein such doctrines are put in print and avowed O woful pagan preachers O hellish Paganisme Whither will these men run and be driven by the Devil 10. We have seen by this short hint what a dash they give unto the whole Gospel and what an indignity they have thereby done unto Iesus Christ cannot be hid from any that knoweth what true Christianity meaneth and he in the following words seeking to alleviate the mater doth in effect make it worse than ever for in stead of exalting Christ he doth with the base Unchristian Socinians debase our Lord Je●us Christ for saith he P. 83. We desire not hereby to equalize ourselves unto that holy man the Lord Iesus Christ who was borne of the virgine Mary in wh●m dwelt all the fulness of divinity bodyly nor as we destroy the reality of his present existence as some calumniate us Ans. Unworthy man that dar move such an Objection and give so unsatisfyin● an answere thereunto O what abjects of blasphemous pride must this gang of creatures be that dar have such thoughts of themselves What and was our Lord who was the Fathers equal no more but an holy Man and born of a virgine and had the fulness of divinity and not of the God head or Deity though the word in the original that is used Col. 2 9 is more emphatick than that used Rom. 1 20. it being 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in him bodily And will this Miscreant deny him to be God equal with the father in power and glory But if he be but a man how can he be said to dwell in us He dwelleth not in us saith he immediatly but mediatly as he is in that seed which is in us But himself called this seed Christ born in us and raised in us and thus Christ dwelleth in us by Christ borne in us What demented creatures must these be who speak thus non sensically in these soul-maters He addeth as the top-mystery of their mischievous doctrine Seing He to wit the Eternal word which was with God and was God and immediatly dwelt in that Holy Man so that he is as the head we as the members He the vine we as branches and as the soul is far otherwise and more immediatly in the head and in the heart than in the armes and feet and as the sap and life of the Vine doth otherwayes and more exist in the trunck and root than in the wine branches so God dwelleth otherwayes in the Man Iesus Christ than in us Behold here is all the honour and preference that Christ geteth He was nothing but a m●er man as this Quaker is only God dwelt in him as the sap is in the root or trunk of the tree but he dwelleth in the Quaker as the sap is in the branches Christ and He is animated with one God as the Head and the hand are with one soul And thus Christ had no existence before he had it in the womb of the virgine more ●han this Quaker had an hundered yeers ago Where is then the God head of our Mediator Where is our Immanu●l How was the Word made flesh Ioh. 1 14 How was God manifest in the flesh 1 Tim. 3 16 Where is he who was the brightness of God's glory and the express image of his person Heb. 1 3 Where i● he who being in the forme of God thought it no robbery to be equal with God but made himself of no reputation and took upon him the forme of a servant c. Phil. 2 6 7 Where is he who is the Image of the invisible God by whom all things were created Col. 1 15 1● 2 Cor. 4 4 Where is he who toke part of flesh and blood and the see of Abraham Heb. 2 14 16 Thus the Quakers deny the Incarnation of the Son of God and that our Lord Iesus Christ was and is the Second Person in the Trinity very and eternal God of one substance and equal with the Father and so joyne themselves with the wretched Socinians wherefore we if their doctrine be true can no more be said to be purchased by the blood of God as Act. 20 28. And if He had not been true God how could ●e have stood under the infinite wrath of God and the power of death Act. 2 24 25. Rom. 1 4 with 4 25. How could he have given worth efficacy to his suffering obedience and intercession Act. 20 28. Heb. 9 14. 7 25 26 27 28. How could he have satisfied God's justice Rom 3 24 25 26. How could he have
and consequently it is no part of the image of God in man 3. How can the man not be denominated from this seed and accounted an holy man upon the account thereof seing he called it before a Spiritual Principle and Organ and the Vehicle of God and that wherein God dwelleth and from which God and Christ cannot be separated And a divine and glorious life Shall a man have a Spiritual Principle of holiness in him and a divine Life and yet not be accounted a spiritual and holy man Nay shall a man have Christ in him dwelling and abideing in him yet not be called an holy man Shall a man have God dwelling in him as Christ had though not in that measure and yet not be accounted a spiritual holy man 4. The Scripture acquanteth us with no Seed or Principle of a spiritual life communicated to every man by his Birth or Conception nor to any but in Regeneration when they are borne againe not of bloud nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man but of God Ioh. 1 13. And these are they who receive Christ offered in the Gospel and by beleeving on his name receive power to become the Sons of God vers 12. for that which is borne of the flesh is flesh and that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit Ioh. 3 6. This being so we passe his comparison and that which he addeth as being founded thereupon all being grounded upon a fundamental errour his reasons for which are afterward to be examined 14. In the fourth place § 15. he saith That hereby they do not derogate from the Sacrifice and propitiation of Christ. But how is this imaginable seing this Seed which is born with every man will sufficiently save them if they will but suffer it to work in them so that there is no necessity for a man once to hear the name of Christ named in reference to Salvation And what improvement doth or can this Seed or Light in Heathens that never heard of Christ make of the Sacrifice of Christ We are told that Christ the true Messias by his knowledge that is by the knowledge of him as making his soul an offering for sin and as bearing their iniquities should justifie many Esai 53 10 11. And further we heard before how this Man joyneth with Socinians in denying the Deity and Incarnation of the Son of God and how having done this he can plead for or maintaine Christ's Sacrifice and Propitiation is intelligible only to Quakers who can as they pretend understand unintelligible things But let us heare how he vindicateth himself and the rest from this imputation He saith They beleeve all that is written of Christ's Conception Birth Life Miracles Death Resurrection and Ascension to be true And what then Socinians will say the same and yet are no friends to Christ's Sacrifice and Propitiation Do you beleeve that that body which was crucified at Jerusalem rose again and is now in glory Speak your minde here if you dar that that Body was personally united to the Godhead we think saith he further all to whom these things are revealed are bound to beleeve them But what will the beliefe of them signifie seing the devil believeth them to be true Yea saith he we think incredulity here damnable And why so Because that divine seed would incline all to believe for it assenteth to all truth that is declared But all this being but an historical faith can effectuate no salvation Hath the devil who is no stranger to this historical faith this divine Seed in him also inclineing him to beleeve this truth If not then this divine seed is not requisite unto this Faith if yea then God and Christ dwelleth in the devil and he is partaker of a glorious and divine life for this and more was said above of this seed as we heard 15. We hear nothing yet said for the Sacrifice and Propitiation of Christ Therefore he addeth that they firmly beleeve that Christs coming was necessary that by his death and passion he might offer himself a sacrifice to God for our sinnes and who ever obtaine remission of sins it is by vertue of his Satisfactory sacrifice These are faire words but containe nothing that can satisfie any understanding person for the Socinians themselves will say as much as may be seen in Hoornb Socinianismi Confut. lib. 3. Cap. 1. Pag. 490.491 Doth he say that the Quakers grant that Christs sufferings were a proper punishment suffered by Him as a cautioner in the room and stead of any sinner and that thereby He did truely and properly make satisfaction to the justice of Go● for the sinnes of his people and so purchase unto them Grace and Glory Remission of sins having pacified God and reconciled him unto them by a true and proper sacrifice and so properly and truely did redeem his people As the Socinians make Christ only a Metaphorical God in respect of his Office so they ascribe to him a Metaphorical Redemption and Satisfaction And if this patron of the Quakers can say no more on their behalfe it is too too manifest how small account they have of the Sacrifice and Propitiation of Christ. And what if all this be meant of the Christ within them 16. Yet he would make us beleeve that they magnifie and exalt Christ's propitiation above what we do we beleeve saith he that as all men were made partakers of the evil f●uits of Adam's fall though thousands never heard of him so many may feel the vertue of this divine seed and by it be turned from evil to good albeit th●y be utterly ignorant of Christ by whose obedience and suffering they obtaine this benefite Ans. 1. All men are actually made partakers of the evil fruits of Adam's fall so soon as they have a being because this is propagat by nature all mankinde being in Adam as their head and root But grace is not propagat by nature Had Adam this seed in him after he fell and before the promise of the seed of the woman was made to him Then he lost it not by the fall but by the fall sure he lost all inclination to spiritual good If he represented all Mankinde in the New Covenant of grace as he did in the Old Covenant of works then as his fall did redound in the one to the actual condemnation of his posterity so should his faith for we charitably suppose he was a beleever redound in the other to the actual salvation of all of what necessity then should the sacrifice of Christ be 2. All were partakers of the evil fruits of Adam's fall actually and not potentially only for there is none that escapeth but the feeling of the vertue of this divine seed is but a possibility so that notwithstanding this divine seed be said to be in all yet it might so fall out that not one should be saved for to have a power only to feel this seed importeth no actual
feeling till Free will come in and determine the matter nor hath it any efficacious influence upon Free will to determine it but leaveth it to its free choice 3. Is this all the benefite that is had by Christ's Obedience and Death that people may be turned from evil to good then it seemeth Christ's death was not so effectual for the good of any as Adam's sin was for the hurt of all Is this to magnifie and exalt the Sacrifice of Christ 4. If this be all that Christ purchased to wit a power to turne from evil to good and to feel the vertue of this seed if men will he hath purchased nothing but what is Natural or what is inferiour to common moral vertues for it is natural to have a power to do or not do as men will and a moral vertue is more than such a power because it leaveth not the man in a state of pure indifferency but inclineth him to acts of such a vertue and only to such acts And if Christ purchased only this power he purchased no more a power to do good than a power to do evil for the power of it self is indifferent to both no more inclined to the one then to the other So that Christ hath purchased ●o Supernatural Grace which effectually moveth and determineth to good but only the Pelagian Natural Grace by which no man is more inclined to good than to evil and which a man may make use of or not as he will and so if he will it shall be of no benefite to him 5. If this be all that Christ hath obtained it is not much mater though we say that such are partakers of it that never heard of Christ. 6. But why saith he Many may feel this seed that never heard of Christ not All Is there any difference if there be what is it and upon what is it founded 7. We deny that any partake of the Supernatural and Saving Benefites of Christ's death who are without the Covenant and never heard of him we mean persones come to age for we except the Elect Infants who are within the covenant and are not capable of hearing And this Mans doctrine rendereth the knowledge of the Gospel very useless at least not very necessary though life and immortality be ●rought to light thereby 2 Tim. 1 10. and it be the mean through which people are begotten unto God 1 Cor 4 15. and the power of God unto salvation Rom. 1 16. the glorious Gospel of the blessed God 1 Tim. 1 11. though by it we are called to sanctification of the Spirit and beleefe of the truth to the obtaining of the glory of the Lord Iesus Christ 2 Thes. 2 14. And in the word of the truth of the Gospel we heare of the hope which is laid up f●r us in heaven Col. 1 5. Though by it the Gentiles be made fellow heires and of the same body and partakers of his promise in Christ Ephes. 3 6 And it be the Gospel of our salvation Ephes. 1 13. Though it be a glorious Gospel having light in it to shine into the heart of beleevers 2 Cor. 4 4. and hath a blessing and a fulness of blessing in it Rom. 15 29. so it is called the Everlasting Gospel Rom. 14 6. and for preaching of which Christ himself was anointed Luk. 4 18. What unworthy creatures must these Quakers be that think so little of the Gospel of Christ and of the preaching of it and cry up so much the Light within 17 But he saith they beleeve that it is necessary for such as hear the Gospel to beleeve it Ans. Necessary how Wherein consisteth this necessity seing we may be saved without it Is it because it is a Revelation of God's truth But that speaks out no more the necessity of the faith of the Gospel or of the History of Christ unto salvation than the faith of this that Paul left his cloak at Troas or the History of Cain Ismael Iudas c. which is recorded in the Scriptures And thus he maketh the great mercy of enlarging the borders of the Church under the New Testament and of taking-in all nations by the preaching of the Gospel without discrimination to be no mercy at all or at least a very small mercy He addeth That they ingenuously confesse the outward knowledge of this to be full of comfort to such as are under it and are acted by this inward seed and Light Ans. But this comfort is not necessary to Salvation according to them This inward Seed and Light is sufficient for this and we are enquiring after its necessity but finde none in this mans opinion Yet let us see wherein this comfort consisteth For saith he Pag. 86. not only are they humbled by the sense of Christs death and sufferings but they are also confirmed thereby and encouraged to follow his excellent example 1 Pet. 2 2. and are also refreshed by his gracious speaches Ans. And is this all Then I see there is no more necessity for any to be acquanted with the History of Christs life and death than with the History of other holy saints of God and we have no more interest in that than in these is that to exalt Christ's Satisfaction and Propitiation All that was written afore time was written for our learning that we through patience and comfort of the Scriptures might have hope Rom. 15 4. And is the History of Christ of the same nature and use with the History of others And is there no more to be gathered therefrom than what an example may contribute This is pure Socinianisme in graine 18. In fine he discovereth to us another mystery concluding thus The History indeed is profitable and comfortable conjoyned with the mystery but not without it but the mystery is and can be profitable without the explicite and external knowledge of the History Ans. That the knowledge of the History without the receiving of Christ held forth therein conforme to the Gospel termes is of little use as to Salvation we grant but what else he meaneth by the mystery I know not unless he meane the light within 2. Can he shew us how the mystery can be known without the History Or to whom and when it hath been known 3. Why was the Gospel written and that by so many several hands And why have we any books of the New Testament And why did Christ appoint O●f●cers to continue to the end Why did he send forth his Apostles to bear witness of his Death and Resurrection Why saith Iohn Chap. 20 vers 31. but these are written that ye might beleeve that Iesus is the Christ the Son of God and that beleeving ye might have life through his name Thus we see how at one dash this Mischievous Man would destroy the whole administration of the Gospel by making it altogether unnecessary unto salvation what a desperat designe must these men have 19. In the fift place he cometh to clear how
Then he is so perswaded of the truth hereof that he is assured no man that readeth this and dealeth honestly with his own heart in the sight of God will not acquiesce thereunto and in some measure be sensible thereof Closeing with this Epiphonema That this is the pretious day of visitation which who soever resisteth not shall be happy for ever This is the day of the Lord which is as lightning shining from east to west and as the winde or the Spirit breathing into the soul and its sound is heard but we know not whence it cometh and whither it goeth 24. To all which I shall shortly reply beginning at what is last 1. That Spirit whereof Christ speaketh Ioh. 3. that bloweth where it listeth waiteth not for mans not-resisting no more then the winde whereunto Christ there likeneth it And it througheth its effect the new birth for he addeth so is every one that is borne of God will this man dar to say that all Men in the world are partakers of this new birth 2. How impertinet that other expression is which Christ hath Mat. 24 27. unto the purpose which this man is now handling he may read that runne●h t● But it is usual for these men to play thus boldly with the Scriptures as men that have not the fear of God before their eyes 3. He taketh no notice that his writings are not likely to come into the hands of Heathens Pagans Turks and Barbarians And so his Proclamation of this day of visitation and faire opportunity of Salvation to all is but vaine 4. We are to see afterward if he can prove from Scripture that God hath planted such a Seed in every man 5. He saith here that God hath certain singular times wherein he thus cometh but in the preceding Chapter we observed another account of this day of Visitation as of a day that did not goe and come againe as the Angels moving of the waters of Bethesda Or he must say that this day cometh but once in a mans whole life time so that if men repent not at that very houre or moment they shall never be saved And if this be his doctrine it is neither consonont to his expressions elsewhere not to the Scriptures nor is it comfortable to either one or other 6 It is absolutely false That God offereth remission of sins salvation to every man upon condition of non-refusal for He offereth remission and salvation to none but in Christ and that upon the condition of faith in Jesus as the whole Gospel cleareth And this offer is not made to any to whom the Gospel is not preached for it is the Gospel wherby life and immortality is brought to light and wherein Christ is held forth as the Propitiation it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that beleeveth for therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith Rom. 1 16 17. So that this mans doctrine destroyeth the whole Gospel and rendreth the whole administration thereof useless yea it taketh away the death of Christ and his merites and blood shed when it taketh away faith that must lay hold upon it 7. What is this not-dissenting not-refusing that he talks of The Arminians spoke at this rate Is this any thing else than the use of Free will at whose devotion Christ and his Salvation is This even this with the Pelagianizing Socinianizing and Arminianizing Quakers is the thing that must weare the crowne and have all the glory of our Salvation and to it must the everlasting songs be sung Glory honour and Praise must be given to our owne noble and well inclined Freewill that did not resist nor refuse in the day of visitation Let never my soul come into these mens secrete 8. That God wonderfully warmeth and mollifieth the heart of every son of Adam at some one time or other is meer Quakerisme that is to say a vaine dream And that God wonderfully mollifieth warmeth the heart of a man in reference to salvation and that yet the man may refuse the call and perish may be true or false according as that mollifying warming is interpreted But if it be taken for the gracious working of the Spirit of God as it may be he will take it he proclameth Armianisme If he take it for some common operation of the Spirit yet say that mans not resisting of this alone without any more will certainly prove saving he preacheth forth Pelagianisme and denieth the necessity of the grace of God 9. In fine we see that this Plaister will not cover the sore Nor free him from the charge of Pelagianisme For Pelagius said as much and more as Vossius Hist. Pelag lib. 3. part 2. Thes. 4. cleareth out of Augustine for he tels us that Pelagius explaining the nature of that grace which he at length came to acknowledge said it did nor consist in the Law only but in the help and adjutorium of God But this Quaker will not admit the grace of the Law or doctrine of Christ for the preaching of the Gospel with him is not necessary unto Salvation Yet hear Pelagius The Lord helpeth us said he by his Doctrine and Revelation while be openeth the eyes of our heart while he illuminateth us with the ineffable gift of his heavenly grace Is not this as much as this Quaker saith when he speaketh of Gods stirring up this light that is within every man Nay it is more for Pelagiu● hereby granted a real operation of the Spirit upon the Minde illuminating it by an unspeakable gift of heavenly grace but our Quakers illumination is nothing but God's putting the natural conscience to work And will this Quaker say more then or as much a Pelagius said on these words God worketh in us both to will and to do God doth this said he while he stirreth us up by the greatness of future glory and the promise of reward and while by the revelation of wisdom he stirreth up the lazie will unto the love of God and while he perswadeth to every thing that is good Will this Quaker say that God doth even this much to every one of the Heathens What Knowledge of the greatness of future glory or of the promise of the rich recompence of reward what Revelation of Wisdom What Love to the true and only God is or can be imagined to be among all and every one of the Heathens Pelagius did very carefully distinguish betwixt Posse Velle Agere And he said the first did properly belong to God who bestowed it upon his Creature But the other two were wholly of man Now all that this Quaker ascribeth here to God is but he first possibility for the man is left at liberty to will or nill as he pleaseth and to operate or not operate as he thinketh good This Possibility Pelagius said every man had whether he would or not but the will and the deed was in his own power Hath not our Quake
sucked this mans brests And as Pelagius would acknowledge no necessity of grace to help us to will and to do or to cause us will and do beside this Possibility or illumination of the minde So this Quaker restricketh all the grace of God unto the stirring up of the Light Saith he any thing of Grace causing the Man to consent Or taking away that resistance No Pelagians Arminians Socinians and Iesuites are dearer friends to him than that he should put any dishonour on their Diana Free will 25. Having thus traversed this mans explication of that Universal Grace Light or Seed which he asserteth and having traced him to his denne We come to examine his grounds for this wilde Assertion held forth § 21. Pag. 98. c. He first adduceth Ioh 1 ver 9. That was the true light which lighteth every man that cometh into the world And this he saith some call the Quakers text but I would rather call it their stumbling block and neck-break because it is a passage which they do wrest as they do also other Scriptures unto their owne destruction as Peter speaketh of some in his dayes 2 Pet. 3 16. Concerning these words of Iohn it would be noticed 1. Some joyn these words which we have rendered that cometh into the world not with every man as in our translation but with the word light rendering the words thus that true light which lighteth man was coming into the world according to the like phrases Mat. 10 32. Luk. 5 16. 15 1. Act. 8 28. Not as if the meaning were that Christ did enlighten every man by coming into the world as if he did not enlighten them before But this they give to be the meaning that Iohn hereby is pointing forth the incarnation of the word showing that the light the true light which lighteneth every man did come into the world and why we may not thus take the words rather than as they are commonly rendered I do not yet see any cogent reason 2. As to this illumination which this light communicateth when it is said to enlighten it is not one and the same way understood by all Some take it to be understood of the common light of nature whereof all are in one measure or other partakers So Calvin Musculus and others on the place and among the Ancients Cyrillus lib. 1. in Ioan. Cap. 9. The Socinians bend all their strength against this exposition because they will not acknowledg this Light Life and Word to be the true living God equal with the Father in power and glory And with these Socinians this Quaker joyneth in his opposition to this sense Others mean hereby Spiritual Illumination by true and saving grace but yet do not say that this is actually communicated to every man but that the meaning is all that are spiritually illuminated have this Illumination from that Light And this way Augustine of old and others of late interpret the words explaining it by this simile a School-master may be said to reach all the children of such a place though all every one without exception are not taught by him because all that are taught in that place are taught by him alone But why both may not be here included I see not this serving the more to set forth the excellency of Christ yea and his Godhead which Iohn principally here intendeth as is apparent from almost every verse from the beginning where he is spoken of whatever the Antichristian Socinians invent and say to the contrary And this being true that Jesus Christ the Word and the Light and the Life here spoken of is true God vers 1. and the creator of all things vers 3. it cannot be denyed that he is the Author of all that light wherewith men are enlightened and that even the light of Nature and Reason is from Him who is the fountaine of all Light and Life Nor must we therefore say that the Spiritual light is as common as the Natural Nor is the intendment of the Euangelist here to assert this because he had said vers 7. that Iohn Baptist came to bear witness of this Light that all men through him might beleeve pointing out that the way of partaking of the spiritual light and life which Christ as a fountaine communicateth was by faith and it is notoure enough that all men have not Faith and therefore all men are not partakers of this Illumination And further Iohn tels us afterward vers 10. that the world knew not Christ And yet all that are spiritually illuminated and have gotten an understanding from Christ know him that is true are in him that is true even in his Son Iesus Christ. This is the true God eternal life 1 Ioh. 5 20. And vers 11. that Christ came unto his owne his owne received him not But certain it is that all who are spiritually illuminated receive Christ They who have the eyes of their understandings enlightened have the Spirit of Wisdom Revelation in the knowledge of Christ cannot but imbrace him Nay the whole Scripture confirmeth this And if it be enquired why is it then said that He enlighteneth every man I Answere To shew the enlargement of the object of this rich favour bestowed by Christ beyond what light Iohn held forth who in his witnessing ministrie was restricted unto Iudea and further seing it is said of Iohn that he came to bear witness of the Light that all men through him might beleeve when yet Iohn did bear witness unto a very small part of all men We see no reason why the every man mentioned vers 9. should be understood so universally except with this restriction every man that beleeveth But mainely it is said that this Light doth thus Spiritually enlighten every man because it is he alone that hath enlightened in all ages and under all dispe●sations of the Covenant both before and after the Law and now all Nations without such distinction or discrimination as was under the Law Finally if all and every man be Spiritually Illuminated by Christ all and every man must be saved for this Spiritual Illumination is wrought by the indwelling Spirit which is not given to all but to Christs peculiar ones Rom. 8 9. And the Scripture tels us of many whose understandings are darkened Ephes. 4 18. who are of night and of darkness 1 Thes. 5 5. and under the power of darkness Col. 1 13. are in darkness and abideth in darkness and walke in darkness Ioh. 8 12. 12 35 46. 1 Thes. 5 4 1 Ioh. 1 6. 2 9 11. 1 Pet. 2 9. Act. 26 18. Luk. 1 79. Rom. 2 19. And who can think that these and such like expressions can be used of those whom Christ doth enlighten with Grace and Spirituall Illumination 26. Hence it appeareth that however we take these words they can afford no countenance unto the Quakers Imagination for though it be true that all men are enlightened one way
are changed into the same image from glory to glory as by the Spirit of the Lord 2 Cor. 3 18. The text saith not that this light is and was shall be in every man Quakers are good at dreaming 30. Then be saith That Iohn tels us vers 7. to what end this light is given viz. that all might beleeve by it for he will have 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to be meaned of the Light and not of Iohn But the man is busie here seeking a knot in a rush The Euangelist tels us what was the end for which Iohn was sent to wit to bear witness of the Light that all through him might beleeve that is through him as an instrument for he was the Eliah the Prophet that was to come to turn the heart of the fathers to the children and the heart of the children to their fathers Mal. 4 5.6 Mat. 11 14. Mark 9 11. he was to turn many of the children of Israel to the Lord their God for he was to go before him in the Spirit and power of Elias to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children and disobedient to the wisdome of the just to make ready a people prepared for the Lord Luk. 1 16 17. He was the prophet of the Highest and was to goe before the face of the Lord to prepare his wayes To give knowledg of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sinnes c. Luk. 1 76 77 78 79. So that this 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 doth properly referre to Iohn who was but an Instrument by whom his hearers were brought to beleeve in Christ the true Light And to Iohn do Cyrillus Chrysostomus and all the Latine Greek Commentators except Theophylact referre it And the very genuine aspect and series of the words enforce it this being the end of Iohns ministrie and witness-bearing that by him and through his Ministrie all his hearers might be brought to faith in the true Light for this was the intendment of all his labour and paines as we see Ioh. 3 36. Act. 19 4. But this Quaker would make us beleeve that to interpret the words so is to contradict the scope of the context for it is Christ sayes he that enlightens all with this light And is not this that they might beleeve by it Ans. It is true it is the true Light that enlighteneth all And He as an efficient cause doth thereby work faith in all that are enlightened but nevertheless by Iohn Baptist as an Instrument might his hearers be brought to beleeve in Christ the true Light and what way doth this contradict the scope He addeth All could not beleeve by Iohn for his Ministrie came not to all Ans. Thence let him learne how to interpret these universal particles So it is said Mat. 21 26. all held Iohn for a prophet yet many in the world never heard of Iohn but the meaning is all that knew his ministrie and so here all to whom his ministrie came indefinitely without exception of any But all sayes he enlightened with the light might have beleeved thereby Ans. Nay all enlightened with this saving light should certainly have believed for this Illumination giveth not a bare power to believe but certainly worketh the effect Iohn saith he further did not shine in darkness but this Light shineth in darkness that darkness being dissipated it might beget faith Ans. And what then Ergo by Iohns ministrie men could not be brought to beleeve in the true light This is a Quakers Consequence that is ridiculous But lastly he sayes we must beleeve by that in which communion is had with God but by walking in the Light we obtaine this communion not by walking in Iohn Answ. Our walking in the light is our enjoying communion with God as the text at which he glanceth 1 Ioh. 1 7. doth cleare Our walking in the light is a fruite of faith and not the cause of it though it may be a cause of its increase and confirmation What is that to beleeve by walking in the light Though not by walking in Iohn yet by hearing receiving of his doctrine men might be brought to beleeve in Christ for he came to beare witness of the true Light and faith cometh by hearing As we have received Christ so must we walk in him Col. 2 6. but receiving goeth before walking and is not effectuated by walking 31. He spends sometime Pag. 99. to prove that this Light here mentioned is supernatural saving sufficient and foundeth all upon this that it is the light of Christ whereby all ought to beleeve And thus subdolously foisteth-in his corrupt errours his Pelagian and Arminian conceipts with a special artifice that the unwarry Reader may be infected with his poison But 1 we know no Supernatural and Saving Light or Grace which is only Sufficient and not Efficacious and Effectual or such as will certainly produce the effect Supernatural sufficient grace to believe not only giveth the man a spiritual Power to beleeve but powerfully insuperably invincibly effectually Inclineth Moveth Draweth and Determineth the heart to beleeve and efficaciously worketh the Effect and produceth Faith in the soul. As for his meerly Sufficient Grace he hath learned it in the Iesuites Arminians and Pelagians school not in the Scriptures Though there be a Light granted even in the works of Creation and Providence which may convince of a Deity and of several duties called for at the hands of men which may and doth render such as come short inexcusable Rom. 1 20. And though a greater Light be granted in the dispensation of the Gospel to convince and render more inexcusable such as beleeve not yet we know of no Saving Light Sufficient to salvation granted to all even of such as heare the Gospel far less to all Heathens for as to this all naturally are blinde and dead and no grace can be sufficient but that which quickeneth and giveth eyes to see and eares to hear and hearts to understand and overpowereth all in the man that maketh head against Christ. In what sense then can it be true that saving sufficient Light is given to all Can that which is a meerly Natural Power produce a spiritual and Supernatural effect As soon may a beast produce acts of reason or a vegetable plant do acts of sense for these are effects of another Nature and of an higher sphere and require a suteable principle If it be said By acting that which is Natural we may procure or make way for what is Spiritual and Supernatural We enquire where there is any such promise or appointment of God giving ground for this assertion Nay if it were so we should be called according to our works and not according to his grace contrare to 2 Tim. 1 9. Tit. 3 5. Rom. 9 15 16. If it be said That these words To him that hath shall be given include such a promise that such as improve nature aright shall obtaine grace
prisoner o● that Truth of God which the Law and Light of Nature did reveal If not what meaneth all the following discourse of the Apostle in that Chapter and Act. 14 vers 15 16 17. 17 v. 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 This man is a stout advocat for Paganisme 38. Then he citeth Rom. 10. where the Apostle saith that the word that he preached was not far off but near in their mouth and in their heart And thereafter vers 18. he saith that this divine preacher did sound in all mens ears and hearts Ans. The Apostle out of Moses Deut. 30 14. is clearing the righteousness which is of Faith and is differenceing it from the righteousness which is of the Law Now that righteousness of faith whereof Moses spoke Deut. 30. was not revealed to all Nations at that time but to that select and peculiar people to whom Moses was sent the posterity of Abraham Isaac and Iacob See Deut. 4 5 6 7 8. and 7 6 7 8. So that all the world had not that doctrine which Moses taught these Israelites revealed and declared unto them but they must have gone over seas and countreyes and adjoined themselves unto the Common wealth of Israel as proselytes before they could have reaped that benefite so though this word and doctrine was brought near to the Israelites in their mouth by profession and in the heart by faith of as many as had their hearts circumcised to beleeve it will say nothing for the Universal Grace and Light which Quakers plead for 2. This doctrine of faith which Moses declared was the same upon the matter with that which Paul preached and that which Paul preached was not in the heart of heathens or of all men borne of Adam but was a mystery hid from ages and generations and spareingly revealed even to the Church untill the last dispensation came Nay the Apostle tels us plainely what that is vers 9. that if thou shall confess with thy mouth the Lord Iesus and shalt beleeve in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead thou shalt be saved Now will this Quaker say that Heathens and such as never heard of Christ do or can confess with their mouth the Lo●d Iesus or beleeve with their heart that he was raised from the dead See also what followeth vers 10 11. for with the heart man beleeveth unto righteousnes and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation for the Scripture saith whosoever beleeveth on him shall not be ashamed 3. The following words confirme this where the Apostle vers 14 15. sheweth the necessity of hearing and of preaching and of sending for the begetting of faith saying how shall they call on him in whom they have not beleeved And how shall they beleeve in him of whom they have not heard And how shall they hear without a preacher And how shall they preach except they be sent as it is written c. then vers 17. he concludeth that faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God This cannot then be meant of any inward thing that lyeth in the heart of every man but is the outward call of the Gospel which soundeth in the eares 4. As for that vers 18. It is to stop the mouthes of both Iewes and Gentiles especially the Iewes who whould pretend ignorance of this preached Gospel say that they had never heard thereof therefore saith the Apostle Have they not heard Yes would he say That is unquestionable for their sound went into all the earth c. What sound is this Is this a sound of something that is lodged in Heathens who never heard of the Gospel None can fancie this but a Quaker Or will this Quaker say that the sound of the Gospel preached came unto the eares of all and every man breathing No he saith expresly the contrary What can he then make out of this Hath the Light within such a sound and words as that Gospel which the Apostles preached or as the preaching of the Apostles which went far and neer into all the earth and to the ends of the world in a manner for the Apostle is alludeing unto the expressions which the Psalmist useth Psal. 19. speaking of the Sun and heavens these great and universal preachers of the glory of God but not of the Gospel And sure even these preachers were outward preachers and not any thing within the man not any Light or Grace or Seed or what they will call it that is within the heart of any man or of all men 39. Then he citeth Heb. 4 12 13. As bearing witness to his fancie But though many take the Word of God there mentioned to be understood of the outward word of the Gospel preached and declared in which sense it perfectly contradicteth this mans dream yet beside what is spoken hereof vers 12. that which is said vers 13. can agree only to a person and so it is most probable that this Word of God is Christ as the learned D. Own hath lately cleared in his Comment on the place But whether of these wayes we take it it can no wayes favoure this mans dream for there is nothing giving ground to imagine that this word of God is any thing abiding and remaining in the hearts of Heathens and meer natural persons which is the Quakers Universal Grace Who would not wonder to hear men say that there is that in every man Turk and Pagan which is quick and powerfull and sharper than any two edged sword piercing even to the dividing asunder of Soul and Spirit and of the joynts and marrow and is a discerner of th● thoughts and intents of the heart neither is there any creature that is not manifest in the fight of it but all things are naked and open unto the eyes of it and with it have we to do We heard before that they called this seed the Vehicle of God and here he ascribeth to it the very property of God to know all things even the Intents of the heart doubtless Quakers that are sensible of this Light can know our very thoughts and designes But we hear blasphemy too much out of the mouthes of these men and yet we must hear more for he saith that in and by this word God seeth the thoughts of men as if he did not see them immediatly but mediatly by the spectacles of this that is within every man Doth this man beleeve verily that there is a God And dar he say that he is beholden to this Light within for discerning the Thoughts and Intents of the heart What a God must these Quakers dream of Will they exalt this Light within above God O horrid blasphemers Nay this Quaker hath not yet done with his blasphemy for he ascribeth to this light that which is said Esai 55 4. and so David was a Type of this light and the new everlasting Covenant containeth and holdeth forth the mercies of this Light that are purchased procured and
●onveyed to beleevers by this Light and it is this light that is given for a witness to the people for a leader and a commander and so this ●ight is our prophet priest and king and then we have nothing to do with that Iesus of Nazareth of whom the Gospel speaketh whom the Apostles preached Thus the whole Gospel is overturned at one blow and all the New Testament is to be looked upon as a cunningly devised fable or must all be understood allegorically as speaking of this Light within which is Gospel Bible Saviour and all to the Quakers and of no other Christ of no other Saviour and Redeemer What a fundamental and antievangelick errour this of the Quakers is no man needeth now to doubt nor fear to call them pagan Preachers 40. Faith cometh by hearing saith he and hearing by the Word of God which is placed in every mans heart to be a witness for God and à medium by which they may be brought unto God through Faith and Repentance And because mans heart is naturally hard as yron God hath put this word in it to be as a fire and as an hammer Ier. 23 29. by whose strength and vertue if it be not resisted the cold and hard heart of man is warmed and made soft and receiveth an heavenly image and impression Ans. Here is a further confirmation of the desperate designe of these Quakers to overturne the foundations of Christian Religion for 1. The word of God by which Faith is wrought in souls is not with them the word of God which is preached or the Gospel which Christ his Apostles preached but a thing in every mans heart Heathen as well as Christian which they nickname blasphemously call the word of God Did Paul preach this word which is in every mans heart Or did any of the Apostles make this their theme text Did they ever say that by this word Faith was wrought in the heart Was this the Christ crucified that Paul spoke so much of Sure faith cometh by the hearing of that word which is outwardly preached by such as are sent and whose feet are bautiful upon the mountains bringing glade tideings Rom. 10 15. Esai 52 7. Nah. 1 15. and by such as was Esaias whose report was not beleeved Rom. 10 16. Esai 53 1. Hear what Peter said Act. 15 7. Men and brethr●n Ye know how that a good while agoe God made choise among us that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the Word of the Gospel and beleeve And what that word of the Gospel was which Peter preached to Cornelius to which passage this relateth see Act. 10 34. to 43. What meaneth Paul by the foolishness of preaching whereby such as beleeve are saved 1 Cor. 1 21. was that the preaching of a Light within Why doth he then call it the crosse vers 18. and Christ crucified vers 23 would the crying up of the light within be a stumbling block to the Jewes and foolishness to the Greeks No certainly But because the Apostles doctrine did lye so crosse hereunto neither Iewes nor Greeks could relish it except those who were the called and they indeed and they only saw Christ the power of God and the wisdome of God vers 24. What need is there that we should insist in disproving of this which overturneth the whole doctrine of the Gospel and rendereth all the administrations thereof useless and ridiculous 2. What Faith I wonder can be produced by this Light within It cannot be the Faith of God's elect for the mighty operation of the Spirit is required thereunto and as an external mean the out ward preaching of the Gospel which is called the word of Faith Rom. 10 8. and the hearing of faith Gal. 3 2. And Paul tels us Rom. 1 5. That he and others received grace and Apostleshipe for obedience to the Faith among all nations The Gospel and the preaching of Iesus Christ according to the revelation of the mystery which was keept secret since the world began but now is made manifest and by the Scriptures of ●he Prophets according to the commandement of the everlasting God made known to all nations for the obedience of faith Rom. 16 25 26. Through the Gospel did the Apostle beget the Corinthians 1 Cor. 4 15. The Thessalonians were called to the beleefe of the truth by the Gospel 2 Thes. 2 14. It must th●n be the faith of Heathens or rather the faith of Devils for they beleeve and tremble and Nature can produce no other faith but a natural faith founded upon nature which is of the same kinde with the faith of devils Is not the Quakers Religion a noble Religion which would bring us the length of Devils 3. That which is left in every man to be a witness for God is nothing but a Natural Conscience witnessing according to the Law of Nature and the dim light thereof that is not yet extinct and will this Natural Conscience produce saving faith in a heathen Sure the devil hath a conscience as an intellectual creature witnessing that there is a God and so witnessing for God Shall we call this conscience the word of God the hearing of which will produce faith Then the Quakers Gospel is a Gospel for the Devils giving them ground of hope of Faith and Repentance if they will but obey that Gospel which is preached within them 4. What a bold and manifest perversion of Scripture is it to apply that Word Ier. 23 29. which is express of the word spoken by the true and faithful Prophets of God unto this dumb preacher in every mans bosome 5 We see then that the softening and warming Spirit of God who by his power and efficacy melteth the heart is in every man by nature in every Turk Tartar Barbarian c. And whatever the Scripture speaketh of this work of the mighty Spirit of God must all be understood of this Light within every man O desperat souls O wretched errour Will not the Lords hand be seen against these impudent audacious perverters of the right wayes of the Lord 6. This fire and hammer will do wonders if it be not resisted But when fire worketh upon water and a hammer beateth upon hard yron or stone can it but meet with resistence At length we see all the operation of grace which he talketh of is the sufficient grace that Pelagians Iesuites Arminians plead for which must have no more efficacy an● power ascribed to it whatever great names it get than may salve the honour and consist with the glory of Free will which must weare the crowne and have all the praise for this grace must not entrench upon the Lordly liberty of mans will but must stand off and petition Lord Free will to consent and yeeld if it will but if not it can do no more And so it shall be of him that willeth and runneth and not of God that sheweth mercy contrare to Rom. 9 16. And it is not
beleeve on him of whom they have not heard And how shall they hear without a preacher v. 17. So then faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God And though he tell us Ephes. 2 12. that the Gentiles in the flesh who are called uncircumcision were at that time without Christ being aliens from the Common wealth of Israel strangers from the Covenants of promise having no hope and without God in the world And 1 Cor. 1 20 21 22 23. That God mad foolish the wisdome of this world for after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that beleeve For the Iewes require a signe and the Greeks seek after wisdom but we preach Christ crucified unto the Iewes a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness And though Peter tell us Act. 4 12 That there is not salvation in any other for there is none other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved 2. The first Argument whereby he would prove this is deduced from some things formerly asserted by him and is thus set down Pag. 112. They to whom the Gospel which is the power of God unto Salvation is made manifest may be saved what ever external knowledge they want But this Gospel is preached in every creature under whom are comprehended even they who want the outward knowledge Therefore c. Answ. 1. This doth not conclude that any such have been or shall be saved a may be will not evince a shall be 2. The Major in his sense is false non-sense for it is made up of inconsistencies to wit that ●he Gospel which is the power of God can be made manifest and yet such to whom it is made manifest may not hear of it And the man it seemeth was aware of this and therefore used these sophistical and ambiguous words quacunque externâ scientiâ careant whatever outward knowledge they want 3. The minor is false as we cleared above and vindicated that abused place of Paul Col 1 23. And the Gospel whereof he speaketh there is a Gospel which was heard and whereof Paul was a Minister vers 23. and was the word of God which he was commissionated to preach vers 25. the mystery which was formerly hid from ages and generations vers 26. and which he preached by warning and teaching vers 28. And as this could not be without the knowledge of Christ so it is certain that Paul did not preach this to every creature for Chap. 2 1. he speaketh of some that had not yet seen his face in the flesh See Beza on the place 3. A maine argument he bringeth from Tit. 2 11. for the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared unto all men But that particle all doth not always cary an universal sense as we manifested above Chap. VIII And until he prove that it is thus universally to be taken here he can prove nothing And whatever he think who is not it seemeth very well acquanted with the laws of disput a negation is sufficient to elide a naked affirmation and he that affirmeth must prove Nor regard we his saying that the interpreting of this particle as importing genera singulorum is abusing of the Scripture or that this universal particle cannot be taken for an indefinite Seing there are so many instances thereof in the N. T. as Mat. 4 33. and others formerly cited And his grounding his opinion upon mistaken and thus misinterpreted words and sentences is not a founding of it upon express Scripture but upon abused and perverted Scripture Let him consider what Beza a man better acquanted with the Greek tongue than he is saith in his Annot. on 1 Tim. 2 1. where he tels us that he hath observed almost in every page that the universal particle is taken for an indefinite and is used to take away a difference as Rom. 1 16. it is used to take away the difference that was betwixt Jew and Gentile and 1 Cor. 6 12. where it removeth the Jewish distinction of meats And he tels us moreover that this manner of speaking is used among the Latines as well as among the Greeks as by Cicero in orat pro Roscio Amerino Non omnem fr●gem neque omnem arborem in omni agro reperire possis And by Virgil. Non o●nis fert omnia tellus And as for this passage of Paul to Titus the context cleareth that the universal is to be here taken for an indefinite For he was before speaking of Servants and here he sheweth that the Gospel is revealed unto them as well as to others to the end they should know how to carry themselves so as to adorne the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things And if he read that Epistle he will finde the universal particle oftener than once taken for an indefinite as Tit. 1 16. 2 15. 3 1 2. And beside what will all this make for his point He must prove that it was thus as well under the Law as now it is under the Gospel and sure no such thing can hence be made to appear for these universal particles in this matter do denote the largeness of the extent of the Gospel administration beyond what was under the Law as we observed and proved above And in this same Epistle Chap. 1 3. he saith That in due times God manifested his word through preaching which was committed unto him Out of which words also we learne that this Gospel and word is manifested through preaching of men such as Paul to the outward eares of people contrare to what this man imagineth And so if this Gospel or Grace of God hath appeared to every man without exception every man without exception of any hath outwardly heard the Gospel preached by men sent of God to speak with an audible voice Yet I suppose this Quaker will blush to say that every man all the world over heareth Gospel preachers or men sent to preach the Gospel hath heard such since the beginning And if he say not this and prove it not too he must quite his Assertion and laugh at his owne rididiculous folly and boldness or rather weep over it What he saith Pag. 113. of our taking All for the lesser part is both false and Childish pedantry in him for we say that it is taken in this matter indefinitly and so doth neither import a greater nor a lesser number or part as when Christ is said to have cured all diseases though upon the matter the number of diseases he cured being within the confines of Iudea for the most part was the far lesser part in comparison of all the diseases that were through the whole world yet we say not that the particle all there denoteth the lesser number but that it is taken indefinitly I must also take notice here that when the Apostle only saith that the grace of God that bringeth salvation
●ewes Whileas it is much more probable that he lived before the children of Israel were brought out of Aegypt and that for this one reason That in all this book where so much is spoken by Iob and by his friends of God's power and faithfulness there is not one word of God's delivering his people out of the furnace of Egypt which would not have been omitted it being so apposite to what is there oftentimes handled if so be it had been done before this time His questions then may easily be answered without that inward common grace which he dreameth of to wit that God taught Iob as he did other holy men before the giving of the Law and that without Scripture which was not then written His supposing thereafter Pag. 116. that Iob speaketh of this light Chap. 24 13. is another of his fond imaginations What he saith next of Iob's friends receiveth the same answere that we gave to what he said of Iob seing the ground of the mistake is the same in both and requireth no new consideration 10. Then he tels us how Paul Rom. 2. saith that the Gentiles did those things which are contained in the Law and hence inferreth that they feared God and wrought righteousness Ans. 1. That the Gentiles were not without all knowledge of what was just and unjust honest and dishonest is most certain for so much was remaining ingraven in their hearts that could not be delete and this was evidenced by their commanding and forbidding by their Laws somethings commanded and forbidden by the Law of God as appeareth by their Laws against Theft Adultery Manslaughter and the like which yet was not universal It is in the original only thus they do by nature the things of the Law And as Beza well observeth this differeth from doing what the Law commandeth being a doing of what the Law doth that is commanding or prohibiting what the Law commandeth or prohibiteth And therefore is it added these having not a Law are a Law unto themselves 2. Hence it appeareth that it will not follow that they therefore feared God and wrought righteousness for the same Apostle tels us Chap. 1 21. that when they knew God they glorified him not as God neither were thankful but became vaine in their imaginations and their foolish heart was darkened Is this to fear God and work righteousness And though hereby the Apostle evinceth the Gentiles to be without excuse Yet he tels us Chap. 3 9. that he hath proved both Iewes and Gentiles that they are all under sin And will this Quaker contradict the Apostle and say it is not true that the Gentiles are under sin though the Apostle hath charged it home upon them for they feared God and wrought righteousness This were indeed blasphemous boldness suiteing only a Quaker But he thinks that vers 13. confirmeth all where Paul saith the doers of the Law are justified As if Paul were speaking that of the Gentiles which is spoken of the Jewes who heard the Law which the Gentiles did not And as if Paul did hereby insinuat that any man Jew or Gentile could be justified as a doer of the Law that is by his owne obedience which is diametrically opposite to his whole disput and scope in this part of the Epistle and to his conclusion set down Chap. 3 28. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the Law Vers. 20. Therefore by the deeds of the Law shall no flesh be justified in his sight What shall we think of this Quaker who thus maketh the Apostle contradict himself and inferreth out of the Apostles words perverted the contrary of what the Apostle himself who knew the force of his owne premises best concludeth And what boldness and blasphemy is comparable to this And withal he will be yet so bold as to tell us that nothing is more clear and that the Apostle vers 9 10.11 doth confirme this doctrine yea and Pag. 117. declare moreover that unless we suppose the Apostle to have spoken otherwayes then he thought we may saifly conclude that those Gentiles were justified and partakers of glory honour and peace and that by their owne works O what miserable miscreants must these men be that dar thus expose the Apostle yea the Spirit of God speaking in him and by him to open laughter as proving and concluding contradictories and that by the same medium and premises which is hardly supposable of a man in his wits and that knoweth what he saith His repetitions Pag. 117. I wave they being formerly confuted and repititions being jejune probations need not be againe examined He doubts whether we can prove that all the Patriarches and holy men before Moses had any distinct knowledge either of Adams fall or of the coming of the Messias for I see not what else he can understand by his vel hujus vel illius these being the only two things spoken of by him immediatly before and his following words confirme this And if he doubt whether we can prove it it is no great matter if he doubt not himself of the thing And if he do doubt of the thing Where is his charity to the Patriarchs and Saints What charity can this be which is so large to Heathens and so straitned to the Saints of God Can this be divine charity No it is a Pagans charity suting him who would have us all turn Pagans But seing the Scripture tels us that they all obtained a good report by faith which is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen Heb. 11 1 2. And that they all died in faith not having received the promises but having seen them afar off and were perswaded of them and embraced them vers 13. And Christ himself tels us that Abraham saw his day Ioh. 8 56. what needs us more proof These and the like passages satisfie us concerning their knowing as much as was then requisite in order to salvation And that the Gentiles who never heard of Christ know so much is that which he should prove and doth it not nor never shall 11. He tels us that the Iewes even after David's dayes who prophecied more largely of Christ than did others before could not out of all these prophecies discerne Christ when he came Act. 3 17. 1 Cor. 2 8. Yea Mary herself did not know that her Son was about his Fathers work when disputing with the Doctors and the Apostles that long conversed with him and saw his miracles did not beleeve what belonged to his death and resurrection Ans. Is not this a wonderful proofe that the holy Patriarchs had no saving knowledge of and faith in the Messias who was to come because the wicked Jewes did crucify him when he came Who would not simile at this But David had many clear prophecies of the Messias and yet they did not understand these And what then Ergo they were saved without the understanding of these prophecies
the Law What sayes he to this Argument He grants they are not profitable unto God but yet he saith they are profitable unto us he might adde and to others too and he might say that they are useful to set forth the Glory of God and several things more might he say of this kinde but all is to no purpose as to our present question The second Objection is from Rom. 3 20 21 by the righteousness of the Law shall no flesh be justified c. But he might have cited to this end whole Chapters of that Epistle as also of the Epistle to the Galatians where the Apostle in downe right termes is disputing against the interest of works in the matter of Justification But what replyeth he He saith the Apostle excludes the works of the Law that is such as are done by mans strength and will while he studieth conformity unto the outward letter of the Law which therefore are imperfect but not the works of the Gospel done by the Spirit of grace in the heart according to the inward and Spiritual Law which are therefore pure and perfect Answer 1. This explication of Law works and Gospel works is nakedly proposed to us here without any proof and is an arrow out of Bellarmines quiver all works done by mans meer strength and will without the Grace of God and the help of the Spirit are no good works at all because not performed in the right manner nor flowing from a principle of grace 2. That Gospel works even performed by the Spirit are not pure and perfect as he with Papists say shall be seen in due time 3. The Apostle excludeth all such works which are not that Righteousness of God without the Law which was witnessed to by the Law and the Prophets nor the Righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that beleeve Rom. 3 21 22 And all such as marre justification freely by grace through the redemption that is in Jesus Christ vers 24 As also all such as darken that declaration of the righteousness of God who must be just when he is the justifier of him which beleeveth in Jesus whereof mention is made vers 25 26. And all such works as give ground of boasting which is only excluded by the Law o● Faith vers 27. And all such as are opposite to justification by faith vers 28. 4. Nay Abrahams Davids works which were done by the Spirit are excluded Rom. 4 2 3 6 7 8. He goeth about to confirme this distinction from this that Paul to the Galat. speaketh directly against such as would presse the observation of the legal Ceremonies upon the Christian Gentiles Pag. 145 146. Answ. Though that might be the occasion of Pauls disput it be true that Paul speaketh much and particularl● against the ceremonial Law yet he doth not insist upon that hypothesis or branch of the question but taketh occasion thereby to discusse the point in Thesi● of all works in general even such as are done in conformity to the moral Law therefore he adduceth Chap. 3 10 12. that passage Deut. 27 26. and Levit. 18 5. which cannot be meaned of the ceremonial Law only and speaketh against all Justification by works which is opposite to Justification by faith Chap. 3 11 12. What he saith afterward of the necessity of good works we stand to in the sense maintained by Our against Papists that is as antecedent adjuncts and dispositions unto glory not as any way meritorious either of Justification or Salvation nor do we approve of the Papists second Justification by works He urgeth againe Tit. 3 5. And thence speaketh thus all grant that such as are saved are Iustified True what more Therefore when he saith he hath saved us he saith also he hath Iustified us Ans. True yet it will not follow that all that is antecedent to Salvation is also antecedent to Justification or that all that is requisite in order to final Salvation is also requisite in order to Justification The Apostle vers 5. presupposing Justification is shewing what way the Lord bringeth about their salvation to wit by washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost that he may clear up the first step of the work he speaks to Justification vers 7. that being Iustified by his grace c. and this grace excludeth all works for what is of grace it not of works otherwise grace is no more grace and what is of works is not of grace otherwise works are no more works Rom. 11 6 and to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace but of debt Rom. 4 4. What he saith afterward Pag. 147. of the difference betwixt works done by persons unrenewed and persons regenerated is not much to the matter in hand and tendeth clearly to disparage his own doctrine concerning the Sanctification and Salvation of Heathens And withall I see no ground to take in these last into Justification as he would have us for then as no man is sayed until all these works be ended so also shall no man be justified until he be glorified 42. The third Objection is taken from the impurity of our best works And he answereth with Bellarmine That works done by the Spirit and grace of God that is of persons regenerated are perfect Ans. His meaning must be that they do agree to the Law in all points otherwise a curse attendeth them Deut. 27 26. Gal. 3 10. And if so why did David say Psal. 143 2. and enter not into judgment with thy servant for in thy sight shall no flesh be justified And Ps. 130 3. If thou Lord should mark iniquittes O Lord who shall stand and why doth Iob say Chap. 9 15. whom if I were righteous yet would I not answere And why saith the church Esai 64 6. all our righteousneses are as filthy rags which though some cited by this man not regarding the interpretation of Bertius the Arminian think doth not immediatly prove that there is no merite in our works as not being spoken of all mankinde yet doth abundantly evidence that the penitent church considering her best wayes saw much defilement in them that might make the Lord abhorre them as filthy rags and persons in a penitent frame use to get a better sight of sin and of their wayes than others have or themselves formerly had His saying that hereby is not meant these works that Christ worketh in us but the works which we ourselves do in our owne strength Is vaine for such as are done in our owne strength cannot be called Righteousness But then sayes he it would follow that all holiness must be cast away as filthy rags So they must be cast away in the matter of Justification for we must not found our hope of acceptance with God and Justification before him on these but it will not follow that they must be laid aside in our practice and not be studied and endeavoured to God's
be mortified in the regenerate they have nothing to do with that duty and so this stu●ying of mortification is incumbent only to unregenerat persons doth the Scripture speak so Why doth he not then shew it This would be more pertinent to the purpose than his extravagant discourse that followeth which I have nothing to ●o with But what saith he to prayer He answereth with Smalcius the Socinian a●ainst Frantzius disp 6. Pa. 181. disp 9. Pag. 289. That wen we are to pray forgive us our sinnes the meaning is not of daily sinnes but of bygone sinnes Ans. Why will he not say also that when we pray give us this day our daily bread it is meaned of long since before conversion what vanity is this But he saith next This militateth as much against perfect justification Ans. The man understandeth not our doctrine of Justification He supposeth we say with Antinomians that in Justification all sinnes not yet actually committed are actually pardoned while as from this petition we prove the contrary and yet assert a difference betwixt Justification Sanctification as he may see in the larger Chatechisme Quaest. 77. cited above 34. He citeth some sayings of Hieron and of Gelasius and bids us see som places of Augustine But if he will be pleased to read what Vossius hath gathered out of these and many others of the Fathers against Pelagius upon this head which we hinted above he may see his folly and blush Doth not Augustine in his book against Celestius frequently use that very argument forgive us our sins And doth he not say De Spirit liter 36. Multum ille in hac vita profecit qui quam longe sit a perfectione justitiae proficiendo cognovit A grave saying that is He hath advanced very far in this life who hath so far advanced as to know that he is far from perfection And Hierom in the very place cited him to wit Epist. ad Ctesiphontem saith This is mens perfection if they know that they are imperfest And against his conclusion as it standeth I will not be so morose as not to assent to it unless he mean the last words hereof viz. that passage Revel 3 12. to him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of m● God as fulfilled in this life and if so he must mean the same of all the rest of the promises made there Chap. 2. 3. to Overcomers which would make him ridiculous enough If he would have cited Ancients to his purpose he should have cited the old Begardi who maintained this and said that a perfect soul being reduced to God loseth its own will so that it hath no other will but the divine will which it had from eternity in that ideal being which it had in God which being supposed they say they may do any thing which their affection puts them upon without sin And so the reason why such persons cannot sin is because all sins even unclean mixtures as they also said are no sinnes He should have cited also the old Alumbradoes who had the same opinion practices suteable CHAP. XV. Of Perseverance 1. In his ninth thesis he layeth down his judgment concerning that question first brought upon the stage by the subtile adversary of the grace of God Pelagius concerning the final Perseverance or full and final Apostasie of the Saints and hath since been agitated by Iesuites Socinians and Arminians and he asserteth two things first They in whom the light the seed the gift of God the inward sufficient grace for it hath many names hath wrought something to their purifying tending forward to a perfecting of them may goe backward and depart from it by disobedience That is in plainer termes for these men must have liberty to speak in their owne dialect They who are Regenerated Purified and Sanctified may Apostatize and fall from that state of Regeneration and Sanctification and in this he taketh part with Pelagians Iesuites Socinians Arminians against the orthodox Next He asserteth That some may attaine in this life to such a measure of fixedness and stability in the truth that they cannot fall away from it 2. It is observable that all such who in the doctrine of grace erre from the right pathes of the Lord and so speak and write of it as to exalt Man Free will and acknowledge nothing in the way of grace's working in souls first and last but what may consist with their project and resolution of setting the crown upon mans head as making himself to differ from others do also in correspondency with their o●her principles positions assert this full final Apostacy of the Saints for as they put it in mans power to accept or reject grace when offered so they put it in his power to stand in grace or depart from it as he pleaseth that man may be Lord of the whole and wear all the glory of it And therefore as they would admit nothing to be said concerning the Lords working of grace in the souls of his people that might in the least seem to encroach upon the Free Will of man though the Gospel doctrine of the grace of God rather advantageth than disadvantageth true Free Will so will they admit nothing to be said concerning the further progress of the work of this grace in the soul to the end that will not consist with Free Will 's absolute Lordshipe Smalcius hath said the matter fully in few words Refut lib. de Error nov Arian lib. 1. c. 1. p. 7. as it is free for all men saith he to beleeve who before were infidels when they have occasion to beleeve so againe it is free to all men after they have once beleeved to fall from faith 3. I cannot in the least wonder why this man should be for the Apostasie of the Saints when I consider what his Saints are and what his Principles formerly examined savoure of Nay I rather wonder how it cometh to passe that any of these he calleth or supposeth to be saints should ever come to that measure or fixedness of stability in good as not to depart therefrom Only because in his former Thesis as we heard in the former Chapter he asserted such a perfection attaineable as might put men out of all hazard or possibility of sinning he could not but now assert that such a state and degree of perfection that took away all possibility of sinning would also exclude a possibility of defection sin being that which only can make souls stagger and fall from their stability and defection being only by sin All the Grace Regeneration Sanctification which his saints attaine unto is as we saw above the pure and meer result of Natures Light and of the power of Nature without the least assistance as necessary of the outward sound and knowledge of the very letter of the declaration of God's minde in the Gospel or of the bare report of a crucified Saviour let be of
that this our doctrine is contradicted by daily experience Wherein In that preachers saith he exhort many to beleeve and lay hold upon salvation who cannot if they be reprobate Ans. But do Ministers know certainly who are reprobate What if their designe be most to save the elect But then sayes he their preaching is vaine for these shall certainly be saved Ans. Where is it said that they ●hall certainly be saved without the meanes Knoweth he not that by the foolishness of preaching God saveth them tha● beleeve Knoweth he not that God hath appointed the meanes to keep his Elect beleevers constant and stedfast in the faith He tels us that Vossius Hist Pelag lib. 6 p. 587. saith that this was the common opinion of the ancients Answ. But I finde the contrare manif●stly made out by D Owen in his preface to his book of Perseverance from Clemens Epistle to th● Corinthians a piece of undoubted antiquity fro● Ignatius from Tertullian from Macarius Aegyptius from Chrys●stome and from the Opposers of the Pelagians and Semipelagians such as Prosper and chiefly Augustine with whom accorded Hilary and Fulgentius So from Gregory from Bradwardine yea and from Thomas Aquinas These h● may be pleased to consider at his leasure 17. But Pag. 168. § 3. He replieth to that answere given to 1 Tim. 1 19. Saying that it must be true faith that is there meaned As if we said that the doctrine of faith were a false faith But he supposeth that we meaned an hypocritical faith that was not in truth but in shew only And yet he must know that a Temporary faith is not properly a false faith but is true in its kinde It is true it is not a saving faith and yet is distinguished from a false faith But the faith we said that was there spoken of is the doctrine of Faith which they should not have put away but adhered to and preached faithfully with all good conscience But when it is said they put away a good conscience saith he it is supposed they had a good conscience which cannot be without true faith Ans. Paul saith Act. 23 1. that he had lived in all good conscience before God unto that day taking in as is very probable even the time that he was a pharisee and so without true faith in Christ see Phil. 3 6. 2. The word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 there used doth not signifie alwayes a putting away what we have as we see Act. 7 27 39. 13 46. And so it only importeth that they did not serve Christ in the Gospel in truth and in sincerity but for filthy luc●e or such like corrupt ends and hence it came to passe that at length they cast the profession of the truth over board and would follow that doctrine no more 18. To our proofs from Phil. 1 6. 1 Pet. 1 5. he Answereth These can no otherwayes be understood than in so far as we fulfil the condition upon which salvation is offered Ans. But these texts speake expresly of God's beginning and perfecting the condition the good work and keeping by faith So that the man knoweth not what he sayes when he thinks this answere can be made use of here 19. He cometh next Pag. 169. § 4 to speak of the second thing as●erted in his Thesis to wit That there is such a measure of grace attainable from which there is no Apostasie and in this he leaveth his friends the Socinians Arminians and thinketh hereby to answere all the arguments whereby Perseverance is proved but in this his folly is too manifest for all our arguments conclude for such as have the least measure of true and saving grace and upon the other hand answere all that is brought against Perseverance by alleiging that these cannot reach such as are attained to this highest degree But as this will not satisfie the Adversaries so it is but loose and groundless work having no foundation in the word And if he will interpret that Heb. 6 4 5 6. of true and saving grace he will finde difficulty to limite it to beginners not to meane it especially of such as have attained unto an higher measure of perfection than ordinary 20. But Pag. 170. from that place 1 Cor. 9 vers 27. he saith that Paul supposeth here a possibility that he might become a reprobate Whereby he destroyeth what he is about to assert for he cannot with any colour of reason deny that Paul was advanced above many arrived at as high a degree of perfection as any Quaker is capable of seing himself saith that Paul was come to that state● from which he knew he could not fall and the mater is clear Rom. 8 38. 2 Tim. 1 12. 4 7 8. But he mistaketh the import of that word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 1 Cor. 9 27. which only signifieth not approven or not accepted of in the service he was imployed about as the whole scope an● context cleareth and though it were taken in his worst sense what can he hence inferre will the carefull use of meanes to provent such a thing prove that such a thing was possible not only in it self but also in respect of God The Lord's determination and purpose kniteth the ends with the meanes secureth the end together with the meanes leading thereto But it is an ordinary mistake with Arminians to think that if the end be secured meanes are needless Was not the life of Christ secured until the time appointed did he for all that neglect the use of meanes for his life or did he hearken to Satan tempting him to cast himself headlong from the pinacle of the temple did Hezekiah neglect to eat drink c. notwithstanding of the full assurance he had of living fifteen years longer 21. What he saith afterward of assurance which some attaine unto though I judge it not clearly proven from Revel 3 12. that place being meant rather of what the Lord will give hereafter in glory Yet I assent unto the truth shall recommend the Reader unto Chap. 18 of our Confess of Faith where he shall finde the matter fully explained confirmed so that he needeth not take any notice of what this Quaker saith on that head CHAP. XVI Of the Church 1 WE proceed unto his Tenth thesis wherein he treateth of the Ministrie But in his Apology P. 172. c. he thinketh good to speak something of the Church of which he made no mention in his Thesis but did presuppose it What we hold concerning the Church is distinctly set down in our Confess Chap. 25 Where more of the clear truth may be in a few words seen than readily will be found in several Treatises written against Papists upon that head there it is said The Catholick or Universal Church which is Invisible consists of the whole number of the Elect that have been are or shall be gathered into one under Christ the head thereof and is the Spouse the
dayes where the word of God and the Gospel is than of a pagan that never heard of Christ. But now what is required An External profession c. This is good enough to declare that the Quakers Churches are not Christian for they beleeve not the holy truthes set downe in the Scriptures because they oppose and contradict them Nor do they beleeve in or make profession of Jesus Christ revealed in the N. Testament because they oppose him and all his Institutions But how is this faith wrought is it by the Spirit of God No the inward light alone doth it that is it is a faith of Christ of the truth of the Scriptures that nature can sweetly naturally incline yea compel unto But this can reach no further than the truths that corrupt nature can teach and what affinity these have with the Gospel of the grace of God let Christians judge And thus we have run round and are againe where we begane 7. He inferreth from what he hath said That the inward work of holiness and laying aside of iniquity is every way necessary to constitute a member of the Church of Christ. Yet it is but such a work of holiness that nature can produce effectuat We acknowledge true holiness wrought by the Spirit of God subdueing overcoming nature to be necessary in all that are members of the Invisible Church but not necessary to constitute one a member of the visible Church general or particular What more That outward profession is necessary to make one a member of a particular congregated church though not of the catholick church Then the particular Church is not an homogeneal part of the Catholick but of a different complexion Then members of the Catholick church cannot be members of a particular Church without some more be added It seemeth then these particular Churches are Visible Churches but the Catholick is invisible Yet saith he this external profession is every way necessary where God giveth opportunity to know it and the outward testimony is to be beleeved when and where it is revealed Then it is no way necessary otherwise and so without any Knowledge Revelation or Acknowledgement or Profession of the Gospel one may be a member of the Catholick saved Church are these things consonant to Scripture 8. Next § 5. He tels us that the devil working in the mystery of iniquity taught his followers to say That none how holy so ever was a member of the church of Christ without an outward profession and unless he were initiated with some ceremonies Ans. And what can it be else but the devil working in the mystery of iniquity that taught him to say tha● Pagans Turks Jewes who are enemies to the true Christian Religion can be members of the Catholick church without either Profession or Knowledge of Christ 2. Himself said that this profession was necessary to particular Christian Churches And are not these Churches of Christ 3. for the external ceremonies used in the Church of Rome we owne them not but such as Christ hath instituted in his word if the Spirit within him be not contrary to the Spirit speaking in the Scriptures he also should owne And againe saith he That if one have an outward profession though inwardly ungodly and irregenerate he may be a member of the true Church of Christ Ans. That such an one may be a member of the Church Visible we owne it as the truth of God and when he shall be pleased to forme a disput upon this head shall make it good And at best he is but mistaken when he addeth that this is to put light for darkness as if God did more regard words than works For the Lord calleth for both Rom 10 9 10. He is also mistaken when he sayes that Antichrist did build his structure upon this foundation For he applieth all the privileges of the Invisible Church unto his visible Synagogue of Satan distinguisheth not betwixt the Visible the Invisible Church as neither doth this Quaker non-churcheth all who are not of his combination and how neare this Quaker approacheth to him in this he can judge if he will 9. What he speaketh of the degenerating of the primitive churches is true but when among these corruptions he reckoneth Pag. 176. this as one that men became Christians that is members of the visible church by birth he is far out for if that be a corruption the Apostles first primitive Church were guilty thereof for we owne it from them Peter told the Jews that the promise was to them and to their children Act. 2 39. And Paul told the Corinthians 1 Cor. ● 14. that the children of beleevers were holy and under the Law children by birth enjoyed this privilege this privilege was never taken away from them under the Gospel What he saith of the reformed churches though there be too much truth in it yet it ill becometh him his party to upbraid them seing all their designe as hath been often observed is to make them us all mere pagan churches And instead of true holiness to presse upon us Natural Dead Antievangelick Morality CHAP. XVII Of a Ministerial call 1. OUr Quaker having thus dispatched what he had to say of the Church cometh to speak to what he had mentioned in his Thesis concerning the Ministery where we finde several things spoken unto which we shall examine severally In the beginning of his 10. Thesis he tels us That as by this gift grace and light all the true knowledge of God in spiritual things is received and revealed so by the same as it is manifested and received in the heart by its power and efficacy every true Minister of the Gospel is constituted prepared and furnished for the work of the ministry And by this moving leading and drawing must he be led commanded in his misterial work as to places where the persons to which and times when he is to be imployed That which here we are to take notice of is that which constituteth a Minister and with this Quaker the only thing that maketh one a Minister is Inward Light which he calleth also grace and a gift as it is received in its power in the heart This is all his call unto the weighty work of the Ministrie What this Light Gift and Grace is we discovered above sufficiently and after examination of all that he said of it found it to be nothing else but the dim Light and Law of Nature or the Relicques of that which once was glorious and illustrious while Adam stood because nothing else can be supposed now common to all Adam's sones or all that are Rational Creatures whether borne without or within the Church whether Pagans Barbarians Cannibals Shythians or what you will And this he makes both the Preacher or Revealer of Spiritual things and the Meane by which this Revelation is received for by it all the true knowledge of God in Spiritual
of experiences yet th●y can speak from experience and appositely apply themselves to loose the doubts remove the difficulties that trouble weak consciences and in some measure in the strength of the great Master of Assemblies speak a word to such as are weary But he will say it is not so with all and I will not contradict him in this yet what I have said is sufficient to discover his unfaire dealing in stateing the opposition or comparison here And how shall we beleeve that any or all of the Quaker-Preachers do as he sayes His naked word is no very sure ground of faith to me 6. The maine difference now followeth to be spoken to He supposeth that our Ministers do all without the Spirit and their speakers do all in and by the Spirit As concerning Ours he must know that there are among them who depend upon the Lord in their preparation for preaching seeking by prayer from him what to say that he would lead them to and suggest unto them that mater and purpose which may be most for edification who when af●er Meditation and Prayer they have gote something to say give it up unto him that he may give it them to deliver or not as he thinketh good who depend upon Him even for Utterance and Expression who look to him and by faith depend upon Him in the delivery of what they had thought upon less or more that they may be helped to preach with that Fai●h Fear Awe Reverence Weightedness of heart Love Zeal and Faithfulness that becometh to his glory and to the edification of the Church who depend upon Him for the blessing knowing that all their words of Perswasion Conviction Rebuke Instruction expostulation and Consolation without the power and blessing of his Spirit concurring and carrying the same in upon the heart will prove ineffectual who receive with thankfulness what he offereth and suggesteth in the time of their preaching and with singleness declare it unto their hearers who often times being called to speak without fore-thoughts go in the strength of the Lord not seeking to commend themselves as able or learned ●en but to commend themselves to every mans conscience in the sight of God And who when they have finished their discourse give up all by faith into the hands of God that He may bless it as He thinketh good in Jesus Christ. He will possibly say That it is not thus with all and I shall readily grant it But will he be sa●isfied with this and account this spiritual preaching or preaching in the Spirit I suppose he will not be satisfied And then it is not to him sufficient though all should study and preach after this manner 7. Let us therefore a little examine his way He first would have all Study all Meditation all Prayer and wrestling with God in prayer for this with us is a maine part of study preparation laid aside Ministers going to the Assembly as naked and void of all knowledg of spiritual matters as if they had never heard of any such thing Then being Tabulae rasae they must introvert unto that Grace or Gift which is in them there receive their Call their Furniture their Preparation both in matter words whether with a text or place of Scripture whereupon to ground their discourse or to explaine and clear up or without any such passage as that inward teacher will Lastly when they are thus called and fitted by this thing within then they speak in the Spirit are acted by the Spirit But now to canvass this not mentioning that which was spoken to before to wit that by their way all are alike preachers and none must speak but such as are thus acted by the Spirit and all thus called and prompted may and must I shall propose these things to the Readers consideration 1. This Gift and Grace within is as we saw above no singular thing it is common to all men and women breathing to Turks and Pagans as well as to Christian Ministers And therefore can have no affinity with the Spiritual gifts which Christ giveth unto his Church and endueth his messengers with all that they may be enabled for the work of the ministry and for building up of his house nor hath it any affinity with the special and saving grace of God which Christ hath purchased for and bestoweth upon his redemed o●es For neither of these are common to all the children of men as the whole Scripture declareth far less can it have any affinity with the Spirit of God which Liveth Abideth and Worketh in the Justified Adopted and Sanctified children of God It can therefore be nothing else than the relicques of nature the natural light and natural Conscience which God hath left in every man So that all the qualifications which the Quaker Preachers have and seek for are but what a Pagan may have that hath a Natural Conscience and the Light of Common notions concerning a God-head and equity and right among men This dim darkened and now malignant light is the Magazine and Storehouse of all their Enduements and Qualifications this is the sole fountaine and spring of all their furniture sufficient I am sure for none but for Pagan-Preachers 2. Their Introverting unto this to consult this Goddess as the Pagans did turne-in to the Cels of Apollos to receive the Oracles hath a more diabolick aspect for what can it be that they would thus consult after they have unmanned themselves or laid aside all motions of Soul and Minde which is not natural nor practicable without diabolick assistance if it be as he saith but some Spirit And what Spirit can we suppose to be in Pagans and every Son of Adam before grace come and make a change but the God of this world 2 Cor. 4 4. the Prince of the power of the aire the Spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience Ephes. 2 3. and that strong man that keepeth the house Is it not then manifest that this introverting must be a real consulting with or giving themselves up unto the instructions and directions of this Prince of darkness If he say that they are Regenerated and so under the power and direction of the Spirit of God I Answere I have seen and considered what he saith upon this and have found that it is nothing but the operation of pure Nature wrought by the strength of corrupt and wicked Nature that is an enemy to the Gospel and to all the wayes of God and if this hath not been sufficiently evidenced above the Reader is free to judge And if nature and this Prince of darkness who hath now a soveraignity over all the unrenewed Sones of Adam can or will destroy the works of Satan and of Nature and embrace the Gospel and the Spirit of Christ according to the Gospel let all who understand and believe the Gospel judge 3. This Spirit then which acteth and mo●eth them or in them can be
is to be continued in his Church untill the end of the world Mat. 28 19 20. We see a necessitie of maintaining it and withall have ground of hope and confidence that Christ who when he had given this in commission to his disciples to teach all nations baptizeing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy Ghost promised to be with them alway even unto the end of the world will owne this Ordinance by his power and presence and rub shame on these professed enemies to the very name of Christianity and defate all their desperate Counsels and Machinations Amen 4. It is time now we see what this man would say Towards the end of his harrangue which we have nothing to do with with which he ushereth-in his discourse upon this subject he tels us Pag. 165. That there have been moe contests and disputs about the Sacraments than about any other Christian doctrine And good man so tender is he of the peace of Christianity that to prevent any further disput to end all these many controversies he hath found out a medium that is to take them away altogether as if a man would deny all Christianity to the end all controversies in Christianity might cease and we might live all together in peace and beleeve no more of Christianity than Pagans such a short cut hath this man found out to bring us all to an agreement among ourselves by becoming all Pagans And yet this peacable man is a wilde man for Ismael-like his hand is against every man and every mans hand is against him for all those who upon each side maintaine these controversies do owne their being would defend the same against him many of their controversies thereabout speak out their care to maintaine this Ordinance 5. He taketh in the first place exceptions at the name Sacrament as not being a terme found in Scripture So tender would he seem to be of all things But I pray him tell me where in all the Scripture readeth he of his Introversion a very great matter with him Where readeth he of fermentation of the vehicle of God and I know not how many moe He is beholden to the Socinians for this exception and they will tell him also he must except against the Trinity upon the same ground It is a poor thing to move debates about a word especially for him who denieth the thing Knoweth he not what we mean by that word Knoweth he not that we are not masters of words but that use ruleth that But sayes he if this name be laid aside the controversie about the number of Sacraments is at an end for there will be no Scripture terme found that will give occasion to that debate No He is mistaken the same debate will remaine if instead of Sacrament we use signes and seals of the Covenant and these are Scripture termes Gen. 17 7 10. Rom. 4 12. Knoweth he not that in that debate the question is not about the name but about the thing imported by the name This he is not sensible of for sayes he if we define a Sacrament to be an outward signe whereby an inward grace is either conferred or only signified that will agree to many other things No sure if we define a Sacrament to be an outward visible signe whereby inward grace is not only signified but really exhibited and conferred to the worthy partakers far less if we define a Sacrament thus An holy signe and seal of the Covenant of grace representing Christ and his benefites and confirming to the right receivers their interest in him Can this definition thinks he agree to any other thing to Prayer Preaching or any good work But sayes he the Spirit only is called the earnest of our inheritance Ephes. 1 14. 4 30. 2 Cor. 1 22. And profane men may partake of the Sacraments Ans. That the holy Spirit is the earnest of our inheritance and doth seal believers unto the day of redemption inwardly by his grace in the soul and by his abideing there as a sure and real pawn of the future inheritance is most true but yet the Sacraments may be and are outward seals and pledges unto the true believer hence 1 Cor. 10 16. the cup of blessing is called the communion of the bloud of Christ and the bread the communion of the body of Christ as not only representing it but as sealing to the beleever his real interest in the body and blood of Christ. So also it is called the New Testament in Christs blood 1 Cor. 11 25. As Circumcision was a signe and a seal of the righteousness of faith Rom. 4 11. So believers are buried with Christ in Baptisme and risen with him through the faith of the operation of Go● Col. 2 12. Rom. 6 4 5. Thou●h wicked persons may partake of the outward elements yet they become no seal unto them because the Sacraments seal only unto them who have the righteousness of faith and exhibite the benefites only to the worthy receivers that is to such as beleeve in Christ and are united to him by faith 5. To the end he may quite destroy and abolish this Ordinance of Baptisme he layeth down three Propositions § 3. the proving of which he supposeth will evince that there is no such ordinance as Baptisme The first is That there is only one Baptisme Ephes. 4 5. Ans. But the Scripture no where saith that there is but one Baptisme Yet what would he make of this Not to mention the Baptisme of affliction Mat. 20 22. nor that extraordinary Baptisme whereby the extraordinary gifts of the holy Ghost were conferred Act. 1 5 as not being here understood because the consideration of either or both of these hath no interest in the argument which the Apostle is here adduceing to press an endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace vers 3. The Baptisme here meaned is the Baptisme which we contend for the outward signe and seal of the new Covenant whereby all visible professours are solemnely admitted into the Church and Kingdom of Christ And this Baptisme is one not only because it is not to be reiterated but because it is the same way administred and hath the sam● ends and uses to all visible Profess●urs unto whom Paul is here speaking Yet we must not consider hereby the bare outward element abstracted from what is thereby signified or from its ends and uses according to the Institution but the whole Institution including both the outward element and the thing represented and sealed thereby or the Ordinance with its ends and uses But our Quaker thinketh that this will make two Baptismes while as there is but one as there is one faith c. And here lyeth the whole ground of his mistake And upon this same ground he might say there were two circumcisions under the Law because sometimes the inward grace signified and represented by the outward act and really
But if what he saith be true to wit that there is no command for this Ordinance that i● is a legal Rite a shadow of good things to come whereof the body is Christ that it is repugnant to the nature of the new covenant dispensation c. I shall be bold to say that no man can out of tenderness of conscience to God after any method or manner goe about it and that no man should be more indulged therein than in practiseing of circumcision What he addeth is but a little bundle of his groundless whimsies without truth sense or consistency We haste to what followeth CHAP. XXVIII Of Liberty of Conscience 1. AS Thieves and Robbers who love to live on spoile and rapine desire earnestly there were no Law nor Judge to reach them in their wicked works So our Quakers conscious as it would seem to themselves of the evil of their wayes and practices and knowing full well how they are looked upon by all as pests and most noxious persons both to Church and Commonwealth to Religion and Civility and that therefore they cannot be tolerated or suffered to enjoy a license to follow forth their wicked designes to ruine all Christianity destroy all Churches in their very Being as well as in their Order and Government introduce Paganisme to the reproach of Christianity and to overturne the very foundations of Religion and Piety Our Quakers I say who are wise enough for evil and sagacious enough to contrive their owne security thought it best for their owne saiftie to adde this to the rest of their errours That Magistrates have no lawfull power over them and so joyne with Libertines Arminians and Anabaptists and with the Donatists of old and Raimundus Lullius and with the old Fraticelli who from their perfection inferred that they were not subject to any humane ordinances either of Church or State in pleading for a liberty of Conscience as it is called but in truth a lawless license to destroy all Religion all Piety and all the precious Concerns of Jesus Christ and of the souls of men Blackwood in his Storming of Antichrist Pag. 23. would adde some limitations or restrictions saying Evil works committed against the light of Nature and Reason as the setting up of Mahomet or any other God beside the Creator of heaven and earth Atheisme when any man shall boldly affirme there is no God Polytheisme when men affirm many G●ds Blas●hemy murder these and such like the Magistrate whether Heathen or Christian is to be a terrour unto 2. These evils which are against the light of Nations there is no Nation in the world but in it the Magistrate will punish those that speak against the God that they profess and against that which they think is Scripture So if any raile against Christ or deny the Scriptures to be his word or no rule for us so unsetle our faith this as I take it may be punished by the Magistrate But our Quaker I know will not stand to this He will rather say with Williams Bloody Tenet in the Preface Pag. 2. it is the will and command of God that since the coming of his Son the Lord Iesus a permissi●n of the most Paganish Iewish Turkish or Antichristian consciences and worships be granted to all men in all Nations and Countreys For his Thesis is general taking in all opinions about Worshipe and Religion And he grants to the Magistrate only liberty to judge in maters touching the life and goods of others or what is hurtful to humane society and commerce But probably not of Quakers for they are perfect and so cannot do wrong And though this be a very narrow restriction yet I cannot see how he can yeeld to this without destroying the maine ground he standeth upon for Conscience may be pretended for the one as well as for the other and an erroneous conscience way teach ●ome to Sacrifice their children to Molo●h and to cut off their nieghbou●s head as a revelation taught the Anabaptist in Helvetia to cut off his brothers head and others at Munster to do many villanies 2. Seing our Quaker declineth a full disput upon this head telling us that many have writ●en largely and earnedly upon it upon this same account I think my self releaved from any large prosecution of this Theme and that I need do no more but examine what he saith for his license and against our Arguments such of them as he is pleased to take any notice of Any who desire to have a full discussion of this question may peruse Mr Rutherfoords free disput against pretended liberty of Conscience Mr Edwards Prin and Others who have fully handled that debate The truth which we owne is summarily set down in our Confession of Faith Chap. 20. § 2 4. God alone is Lord of the Conscience Iam. 4 12. Rom. 14 4. and hath left it free from the doctrines and commandements of men which are in any thing contrary to his word or beside it in maters of faith or worship Act 4 v. 19. 5.29 1 Cor. 7. v. 25. Mat. 23 8 9 10. 2 Cor. 1 24. Mat. 15 9. So that to believe such doctrines or to obey such commands out of conscience is to betray true liberty of C●nscience Col. 2 20 22 23. Gal. 1 10. 2 4 5. Psal. 5 1. and the requireing of an implicite faith and an abs●lute and blinde obedience is to destroy liberty of Conscience and reason also Rom. 10 17. 14 23. Esa. 8 20. Act. 1● 11. Ioh. 4 28. Hos. 5 11. Revel 13 12 16 17. Ier. 8 9. And because the Powers which God hath ordained and the liberty which Christ hath purchased are not intended by God to destroy but mutually to uphold and preserve one another They who upon pretence of Christian liberty shall oppose any lawful Power or the lawful exercises of it whether it be Civil or Ecclesiastical resist the Ordinance of God Mat. 10 vers 25. 1 Pet. 2 vers 13 14 16. Rom 13 1 8. 13.17 And for their publishing of such opinions or maintaining of such practises as are contrary to the light of Nature or to the known principles of Christianity whether concerning faith Worshipe or Conversation or to the power of godliness or such erroneous Opinions or Practices as either in their own nature or in the manner of publishing or maintaining them are destructive to the ext●rnal peace and order which Christ hath established in the Church they may lawfully be called to account and proceeded against by the Censures of the Church Rom. 1 32. with 1 Cor. 5 2 3 11 13. 2 Ioh. 10 11. 2 Thes. 3 v. 14. Tim 6 3 4 Tit. 1 10 11 13. 3 10. with Mat. 18 15 16 17. 1 Tim. 1 vers 19 20 21. Revel 5 9 2 2 14 15. And by the power of the civil Magistrate Deut. 13 6 to 12 Rom. 13.3 4. with 2 Ioh. v. 10 ●1 Ezra 7 23 25.26 27 28. Revel
of perfection in Christianity which he supposeth the Quakers are come unto may now lawfully offer beasts and sacrifices Yea and observe the whole ceremonial Law What doctrine is this We must not wonder to hear this of them who are utter enemies to the Gospel and so care not what be done that may tend to the abolition thereof 3. We heare not that the use of circumcision was ever permitted to the Gentiles though in a lower degree of perfection 4. Circumcision was for a time permitted even to the highest advanced Jewes for Paul after the Spirit was arisen in him did circumcise Timothy 10. This is all he saith upon this head for he toucheth not others of our maine arguments such as that Rom. 13. where the Apostle tels us that higher powers are of God to be a terrour to evil works and have a sword for this end and are the Ministers of God revengers to execute wrath upon such as do evil and ordereth that tribute and custome be payed to them as to God's Ministers attending continually upon this very thing They must then have power to suppress Injustice and Iniquity and to warde it off and so to defend their Subjects from Injustice and Oppression But this they cannot do but by the sword which they must use against all Oppressours whether within or without the Kingdom that would wrong and enjure their Subjects who otherwayes shall not be in case to lead a quiet and peacable life under them in all godliness and honesty 1 Tim. 2 2. whence we might also adduce another argument Further though he seemeth to grant the office of Magistracy to be lawful Yet his arguments will as well prove that unlawful as the use of Armes and Anabaptists will alleige that Magistracy it self was a Jewish ceremony and that with as great probability as he can alleige warre to have been ceremonial And as he granteth it lawful for such as are not Christians to make warre so will they grant it lawful for such to be Magistrates but not for Christians Yea Socinus himself though he will not have it lawful for privat persons to warre Yet he granteth it lawful for Kings Princes and Magistrats without any impeachment of their Christianity and why it should be lawful to these and not also to those I see not And it seemeth he would have the Magistrats warring without souldiers which how they can well do I know not 11. By what this Quaker granteth to such Magistrats as are not yet Christians after his mode he must needs say that it is not in it self unjust and iniquous for Magistrates to defend with the sword Justice and Peace for if it were unjust and iniquous in it self it should be lawful to none And if it be just and right in it self why should it be unlawful to Christians The Gospel destroyeth not what is just and right it taketh not away Magistracy nor that which is necessary to Magistracy and without which Magistracy cannot subsist nor Magistrates execute their office Will any man say that it is more just and equitable that Magistrates leave their Subjects as a prey to the lust of every oppressing plundering robbing and killing enemy then with armes to withstand and resist these oppressing and murthering adversaries And if not were it not a great act of injustice to his own Subjects thus to expose them to the cruel bloody sword of invaders And must Christianity countenance injustice and warrand that which the very light of Nature teacheth heathens to abhore Shall Christians be worse than infidels 1 Tim. 5 8. Then it is saifer to live under Pagan Magistrates than 〈◊〉 Christian Magistrates Would he have us runing away to Pagan Places for t●is end 12. What will this Quaker say to the Prophecies in the Revelation concerning the warres that have bin and are to be waged against the Turk and against Antichrist when God shall give them that before shed the blood of Saints and of the Prophets blood to drink for they are worthy whereupon thanksgiving was to be rendered saying Thou art righteous O Lord which art and wast and shall be because thou hast judged thus And even so Lord God Almighty true and righteous are thy judgments Revel 16 5 7. If wars be utterly unlawful under the New Test. how shall that be fulfilled which we have Revel 18. concerning the total and final ruine of mystical Babylon Why is it there said to God's owne people vers 6 7 8. reward her even as she rewarded you and double unto her double according to her works in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double how much she hath glorified her self and lived deliciously so much torment and sorrow give her she shall be utterly burnt with fire for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her And how shall that be accomplished Revel 17 16. And the Ten hornes which thou sawest upon the Beast these shall hate the whore and shall make her desolate and naked and shall eate her flesh and burn her with fire And how shall these songs be sung which we have Revel 19 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 And how shall he who is called faithful and true and in righteousness doth judge and make war and is clothed with a vesture dipt in blood and hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written King of Kings and Lord of Lords make a Supper of the flesh of Kings of Captains of mighty men of horsmen c. unto all the foules Revel 19 11. to the end But it seemeth our Quaker hath no will that any evil should befal that Whore and her Seate and therefore would prevent her destruction so far as he can by soweing this doctrine that Christians in no case must make warre But we beleeve our King shall finde armies to follow him when he taketh the fields and cometh to tread the winepress of the fiercness and wrath of Almighty God whatever Quakers say 13. We will therefore close this point with the words of our Confession of faith Chap. 23 § 1 2. God the Supream Lord and King of all the world hath ordained civil Magistrates to be under him over the people for his owne glory and the publick good And to this end hath armed them with the power of the sword for the defence and encouragment of them that are good and for the punihment of evil doers Rom. 13 vers 1 2 3 4. 1 Pet. 2 vers 13 14. It is lawful for Christians to accepte and execute the office of a Magistrat when called thereto Prov. 8 vers 15 16. Rom. 13 vers 1 2 4. In the managing whereof as they ought especially to maintaine piety justice and peace according to the wholsome Lawes of each Commonwealth Psal. 2 vers 10 11 12. 1 Tim. 2 vers 2. Psal. 82 vers 3 4. 2 Sam. 23 vers 3. 1 Pet. 2 vers 13. so for that end they may lawfully now under the New Testament wage war upon just and
He addeeh H●nce againe because we say to them when they clatter and determine of the resurrection that it were more necessary for them to know the righteous one whom they have killed in themselves to be arisen that they may be made partakers of the first resurrection and that if that be they will be more able to judge of the second they say we deny the resurrection of the body Answ. What unsavoury language is that clattering about a resurrection Is this spoken like a Ch●istian Is the Resurrection such an inconsiderable thing with him Or is it a meer problem or a thing that shall never be Next see we not here in his owne words a confirmation of what we were last saying to wit that the Quakers deny a Christ without dying and riseing and all advantage for us thereby What meaneth he by the killing of the just one within us and the riseing againe of that just one Is that the just one crucified at Ierusalem whereof Peter speaketh Act. 3 14. And Stephen speaketh Act. 7 52. and Ananias Act. 22 14 And if not to what else te●deth this but to banish away the very historical f●ith of that But now as to the Resurrection if he beleeve any such thing how cometh it that in all his great book he hath made no mention thereof Is it no article of our faith Or is it a whimsey and a fictitious notion Then let us eat and drink for to morrow we shall die and no matter whether we be Quakers or Christians Againe seing he made no me●tion of h●s fundamental article in his whole book who did he not upo● this occasion speak alittle to it to manifest his r●al beleefe of it And as to others of the Quakers they give at best a most instinct sound in this point wherein they are worse then some heathen philosophers as may be seen in Mr Hicks 1. Dial. Pag. 57. c. But Turn●r a Quaker is more positive against it disproving it by these arguments If the bodies of men rise againe then there is a preheminence in the bodies of Men above the bodies of Beasts which is to give Solomon the lie Eccles. 3 19. Againe If the bodies of men should rise againe this is to give Iob the lie who saith The eyes that see me shall see me no more Iob 7 8. And 3. That flesh and blood shall not inherite the Kingdom of God The same Mr Hicks in his Quakers appeal answered p. 21. sheweth how Will. Pen in several of his books denieth the resurrection saying Such a resurrection is inconsistent with Scripture reason and the beliefe of all men right in their wits And againe for shame let us never make so much stir against the doctrine of Transubstantiation For the absurdity of that is rather outdone than equaled by this carnal resurrection And againe he calleth it a barbarous conceit Mr Faldo in his book against them Chap. 17. cleareth how they speak of a Resurrection and meaneth thereby only Regeneration and showeth how they shift the giving of any distinct and positive answer thereanent All which is enough to shew that it is no calumny to say they deny the resurrection of the body Adde that passage of W. Pen in his book against Mr Faldo cited in his answere Pag. 88. Either the resurrection of the body must be without the mater or it must not If it must then it is not that same numerical body and so their proper and strick taking of the word Resurrection they must let go if it must not be without the same gross mater it died with then I affirme it cannot be incorruptible because it will carry with it that which will render it corruptible ad infinitum I say we cannot see how that which is of the dust should be eternal whilst that from whence it came is by nature but temporal and that which is yet most of all irreconcilable with Scripture and right reason is that the loss and change of nature from corruptible to incorruptible natural to spiritual should not make it another body 7. Yet more he saith Hence finally because when we hear them speak inadvertently of heaven hell and the last judgment we exhort them to come out of that infernal condition in which they stand and come unto and believe the judgment of truth within their own hearts and follow the light that in this life they may sit in celestial places which are in Christ Iesus they maliciously say that we deny all heaven and hell but that which is in us and that we deny the last and general judgment Answ. But if they do account this a calumny why do they not blame themselves for not being more plaine and distinct in these necessary and fundamental points Why doth not this Man in his great book which he stileth an Apology of the Christian Religion deliver in plaine termes his judgment hereof Mr Faldo tels us in his key that he could never hear or read them mention any other heaven to be enjoyed by them as distinct persons but what they have within them in this world And by hell he tels us they mean the present torment and loss within And that by their Trembling and Quaking they mean the horrour and consternation they are under from as they say the wrath of God while the flesh is judged and they are in the hell of condemnation and he can finde no other hell that they hold And this trembling and quaking they say is such as Moses and other Prophets were seized with at the appearance of God And by the State of glory he tels us they meane the state of peace and joy resulting from the witnes of the light within in the life And that by the judgment of the great day they meane sin being judged in the conscience by the light within in this life And it is considerable that when Mr Faldo had said let them profess that they believe a happiness to be enjoyed by Men and Women after their bodies be rotted to dust distinct from the being of God or that which they had not a thousand yeers before they were born i. e. to be in God from whom as of his being they say the soul came and it will be newes to me and all that are acquanted with them Yet Will. Pen in his answere will not be plaine to declare their meaning What can this silence import else than that they are guilty in this matter And as for the last judgment how can they believe it when they deny Christ's second coming visibly personally so doth Whitehead see Mr Hicks in his 2. Dial. p. 43. 75.76 8. Notwithstanding of all this this bold man dar say that God knoweth all these calumnies are ●alsly and undeservedly cast upon them And yet they neither can will nor dar vindicat themselves What followeth being but a meer commendation of themselves which we have heard so oft I think it not worth the translating let be
body the Church Ephes. 5 23. And againe Quaest 68. Are all the Elect only effectually called Ans. All the Elect and they only are effectually called Act 13 48. Although others may be and often are outwardly called by the ministry of the word Mat. 2● 14. and have some common operations of the Spirit Mat. 7 22. 13 20 21. Heb. 9 4 5. who for their wilfull neglect and contempt of the grace offered to them being justly left in their unbeleef do never truely come to Iesus Christ Ioh. 12 38 39 40. Act 28 25 26 27. Ioh. 6 64 65. Psal. 81 11 12. 10. When the Gospel cometh to a place there is ground of hope that God hath some lost groat or other to finde out by the light thereof for it being the Gospel of Salvation and by it the Lord bringing life and immortality to light and it being the mean appointed and designed of God for this end to bring in the chosen ones there is ground to suppose that the Lord hath some elected ones in that place moe or fewer And though as to the intention of God and as it is the meanes designed of Lord whereby to effectuate the purpose he hath of saving such as he hath designed unto life it be properly sent to gather them in yet considering it as containing the revealed will of God and pointing forth duty and as it is put into the hands of men who know not the secret Counsels of God nor whose names are writen in the book of life whose not it concerneth all that hear it and all are bound in obedience to the command of the great God in the mouth of his authorized Ambassadours to believe and obey the Gospel And when obedience is not yeelded thereunto the righteous God because of the refusal of the offer and the contempt done to the grace of God in that refusal either taketh away the Gospel leaving that people in darkness and in an irremediable case by Non-churching or Excommunicating them as he threatned to do to Ephesus Revel 2 to La●dicea Rev 3 and did to the Iewes when he cut them off and hath done to several other Churches sometimes ●amous for Christianity And where he continu●th the Light of the Gospel after much contempt there being of his Elect there whom he will not want but with much long suffering for the glory of his Grace waite for he hath other spiritual judgments wherewith even in this side of Eternity he punisheth such contemptuous offenders whose life natural he may spare for a time by giving them up to hardness of heart judicially blinding them giving them up to the power of Unbeleefe and to spiritual Security and Deadness so that no preaching can pierce them no Meanes can prevaile with them no Motives can move or perswade them no Threatnings can awaken them or rouze them out of their sleep So that the Lord dealeth with them according as it is written Esai 6 9 10. Mat 13 14. Mark 4 v. 12. Luk. 8 10. Ioh. 12 40. Act. 28 26. Rom. 11 8. maketh their eyes heavy and shutteth their eyes c. or as it is written Esa. 29 10. Rom. 11.8 poureth out upon them the Spirit of a deep sleep and closeth their eyes or as it is written Psal. 81 12. giveth them up to their owne hearts lust or as it is Psal. 6● 22. maketh their table a snare or as it is 2 Thes. 2 10 11 12. giveth them up to all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish and sendeth them strong delusion that they shall believe a lie that they may be damned who beleeved not the truth or saith to them as Revel 22 11. He that is unjust let him be unjust still and he that is filthy let him be filthy still And though such judgments may be inflicted upon some that live and die under the drop of the Gospel yet it may well be said as to these on whom the Lord poureth out these judgments that the day of their Visitation and hope is at an end But yet though the consideration of this may and should make the Faithful Labourer in the work of the ministry when ready to complaine and cry out that he hath laboured in vaine and hath spent his strength for nought and in vaine Esai 49 4. lay his hand upon his mouth and adore knowing withall that his judgment is with the Lord and his work with his God ibid. and that he is unto God a sweet savour of Christ even in them that perish and to whom he is the savoure of death unto death 2 Cor. 2 15 16. Yet notwithstanding because it is not certain who are the particular persons who are thus judicially smitten of God he should minde his duty and preach the word be instant in season out of season reprove rebuke exhort with all long suffering and doctrine 2 Tim. 4 2. and be patient in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth and that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil who are taken captive by him at his will 2 Tim. 2 24 25 26. And others also who are even in a more private capacity should save some with fear pulling them out of the fire Iud vers 23. Not do we hereby give allowance to any to despond or despaire who hear the Gospel for the Lord hath his own time of coming the door standeth open that whosoever will may be encouraged to come forward for Christ in no wise casteth out any that cometh Ioh. 6 37. the invitation is Free Large whosoever will let him take of the water of life freely Revel 22 17. Though with all we must say that word Heb. 6 4 5 6 7. may strick terrour into the hearts of many for it is impossible for those that were once enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and were made partakers of the holy Ghost and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the world to come if they shall fall away to renew them againe unto repentance seing they crucifie to themselves the Son of God afresh and put him to an open shame for the earth which drinketh in the raine that cometh oft upon it and bringeth forth herbes meet for them by whom it is dressed receiveth blessing from God but that which beareth thorns briers is rejected is near unto cursing whose end is to be burned 11. But as concerning that possibility which this Quaker dreameth of whereby it is concluded or presupposed that every Mothers son of the Posterity of Adam have Power and Ability Moral I say moral that no man may think I speak here of the meer faculties of the soul Understanding Will to beleeve and obey the Gospel or can of themselves beleeve without the Spirit of God and his mighty operation enlightening the Understanding savingly and renewing the Will and causing by the influence
12. where it signifieth among and he might have found it rendered in the margine of our bibles among so that the meaning is the Kingdom of God which they imagined would be some outwardly glorious and splendid thing and therefore could not be in and with Christ was already near unto them and among them for thus he cleareth it afterward vers 22. saying unto his disciples The dayes will come when ye shall desire to see one of the dayes of the Son of Man and ye shall not see it Whence we see this could be nothing that was within the carnal part of the heart of every man We reject therefore with detestation that which he saith afterward to wit That Iesus Christ the hope of glory who becometh wisdom Righteousness Sanctification and Redemption is in the heart of every man in that little seed as man is potentially in the embrio as cursed Pelagianisme and doctrine for Pagans 16. He tels us Pag. 109. That the Calvinists take grace to be a certaine irresistible power therefore reject this little seed of the Kingdom despise it as an contemptible insufficient thing and unprofitable to salvation And why not seing Scripture speaketh of Grace as a Drawing and Teaching of the Father as a Quickening of the dead as a giving of a New heart as Enlightening ●he minde spiritually and savingly to understand the things of God as a Renewing of the will and by almighty power determining it to that which is good See Ioh. 6 44 45 Ezech. 36 26 27. 11 19. Phil. 2 vers 13. Deut. 30 6. Ephes. 1 17 18 19 Act. 26 18. 1 Cor. 2 10 12 And as for this Seed which he talketh of the Calvinists as he calleth them cannot but reject it and all that are not one with Pelagians Iesuites Arminians the sworne enemies of the grace of God But to astonish his Reader he addeth That the Papists Socinians and Arminians on the other hand do extoll nature and Free will and deny this little seed small manifestation of Light to be that supernatural and savving grace of God given to all unto salvation But poor man he bewryeth his ignorance not knowing that Pelagius called the posse the grace of God and that Arminians plead for a Supernatu●al grace granted to all whereby they have a power to do what is commanded See Act. Synod Remonst de gratia Pag. 14 15. Praeterea minime quoque diffitemur Spiritum Sanctum immediate agere in voluntat●m in illam vires infundendo ac potentiam supernaturalem ad credendum and againe Si per gratiam habitualem intelligere libeat potentiam supernaturalem concessam voluntati ad hoc ut credere bene agere possit eam libenter admittimus Yea Pag. 62. they say that this power of beleeving is con●erred by irresistible grace See their Apology Pag. 117. b. Let this Quaker now tell me wherein he d●ffereth from the Arminians Doth not he and they conspire to put the crown of salvation on mans head that man may have all the praise of willing and doing while as God gave to all in common a power to will and to do by wh●ch all might if they would believe and be saved and which could do no more and thus we need not notice what he addeth further there to this purpose only I observe his sarcastical scoffe at the Calvinists as he calleth them wherein he bewrayeth much ignorance or malice or both For it is most false that they cry up such a Saviour as repareth little or nothing within and giveth ground of certanety of Salvation to such as live in sinnes I value not his commendations of this Light being all founded on pure ignorance and presumption though he blasphemously Pag 110. misapply these Scriptures Ioh. 3 vers 20. Psal. 1●8 22. Mat. 21 42. Mark 12 10. Luk. 20 17. Act. 4 11. as speaking of his Pelagian dream Nor do I regard his saying from experience that that stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner though he taking Gods blessed name in vaine ascribeth upon this account glory to God for his delusions are no ground of our fai●h nor confirmations to be regarded by us And whereas he boasteth of their being sent forth as the first fruites unto God in the day wherein he is to arise contend with the nations to preach this everlasting Gospel he but foameth out his owne shame for we have seen already what a Heathenish Gospel this is which he preacheth Nor do I take any notice of this mans undervalueing of all preachers that are not of his minde this being the usual straine of all broachers of pernicious doctrine to fill the mindes of the less knowing of whom they think to make a prey with prejudices against the Faithful assertors and maintainers of truth What he addeth further Pag. 110. in commendation of themselves is but a proclamation of his pride and vaine glory And that summe of the Gospel which the Quakers preach repeated so often Pag. 110. and 111. to wit That they call request invite all to turn in unto the Light within them beleeve in Christ as he is in them is enough and more then enough to make all wise men abhore their doctrine and all that love their souls to keep far from them seing by what we have said it is apparent what this Christ within every man is and what is this Light to which he would have all turning in to wit nothing but Pelagian or rather Heathenish darkness which overturneth the Gospel and its whole administration for it is but that which every mans conscience can teach and what the conscience of an Hannibal Caesar Catalin yea or of the most polished heathen can teach of that Salvation Light Life and Immortality which is brought to light by the Gospel who but Quakers can imagine And though this conscience even of a natural heathen wakened and armed by God in Justice would make them tremble as Quakers do as he saith yet this will not prove that it could informe them of the way of salvation by a crucified Christ without ever hearing of the same preached as he ignorantly imagineth And we deny not that to be a most sure truth which Paul saith 2 Cor. 13 5. but see not of what advantage it can be to him And this is all which we have for probation of the first part of his Position CHAP. XII Of the Salvation of Heathens without hearing the Gospel 1. THe second part of this Quakers last Assertion is set down and prosecuted § 25. Pag. 111. It is this in short That by the working of this light and feed some have been saved and may yet be saved who never heard or shall hear of Christ or the Gospel externally preached And this must be true with this Quaker though the Apostle faith the contrary Rom. 10 14. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not beleeved And how shall they