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circumcision_n all_o be_v call_v disciple_n upon_o who_o this_o yoke_n be_v put_v now_o this_o yoke_n be_v not_o put_v upon_o the_o neck_n of_o the_o believe_a jew_n in_o respect_n of_o their_o personal_a subjection_n to_o circumcision_n for_o they_o be_v circumcise_v already_o but_o upon_o their_o child_n or_o upon_o they_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o child_n who_o be_v here_o call_v disciple_n again_o john_n 9.28_o say_v the_o jew_n to_o the_o man_n who_o christ_n cure_v be_v bear_v blind_a we_o be_v moses_n disciple_n we_o that_o be_v the_o whole_a nation_n of_o we_o jew_n be_v moses_n disciple_n under_o the_o discipline_n of_o moses_n law_n and_o you_o know_v that_o child_n be_v under_o moses_n his_o discipline_n in_o respect_n of_o circumcision_n again_o the_o scripture_n call_v child_n by_o the_o name_n of_o god_n servant_n leu._n 25.41_o 42._o then_o shall_v he_o depart_v from_o thou_o both_o he_o and_o his_o child_n with_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o jewish_a servant_n and_o 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