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A33129 Diaphanta, or, Three attendants on Fiat lux wherein Catholick religion is further excused against the opposition of severall adversaries ... and by the way an answer is given to Mr. Moulin, Denton, and Stillingfleet.; Diaphanta J. V. C. (John Vincent Canes), d. 1672. 1665 (1665) Wing C427; ESTC R20600 197,726 415

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