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A67420 More news from Rome, or, Magna Charta discoursed of between a poor man & his wife as also a new font erected in the cathedral-church at Gloucester in October 1663, and consecrated by the reverend moderate bishop, Dr. William Nicolson ... : as also an assertion of Dr. William Warmstrey ... wherein he affirmeth that it is a lesser sin for a man to kill his father than to refrain coming to the divine service established in the Church of England ... Wallis, Ralph, d. 1669. 1666 (1666) Wing W616; ESTC R15738 46,742 50

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and Clerks who are the Pillars of the Church then England hath at this day and who have laid out themselves aswel in Purse as Person for the reformation of those evils which are crept in among us If after all this we shall remain obstinate disregarding and undervaluing their indefatigable pains studies and diligence used and out of our Peevish Self-Conceitedness of our own abilities New-Light forsooth and Light within and such like fooleries whereas it is impossible that those who are but Layicks Mechanicks and other T'radsmen and Country men who follow the Plow tayl to have that Wisdom Knowledge and Understanding which they have attained unto by reason of their great reading and acquaintance in the Originals especially if we consider that we are not under Heathen Emperours but Christian Magistrates whom in duty we are bound to obey as the Apostle saith Submit your selves to every Ordinance of man for the Lord's sake c. If after all this we shall remain as before it behoveth all his Majesties Officers to put the Laws in Execution and therefore Church-Wardens look to your charge take notice who are absent at the Prayers of the Church make your Presentment I 'le put to my hand as by duty I am bound Well done Sir John Priest you have made a fair speech Well Wife have a little patience and give him but halter enough he will hang himself or give himself such a fall as never Jackanapes had Neighbours saith John I have received orders from my Lord Bishop who tells me that it is his Majesties will and pleasure that Children should be Catechized I pray you send your Children the next Sunday I intend to begin at two of the clock The neglect whereof hath been the cause of so much Heresy Schism and Sedition as hath been among us the Youth having not been instructed in the right Principles of Religion The time being come saith John Where be the Youths that come to be Catechized Ready quoth the Holy-water dishclout the Clerk Quest What is your name Answ T. B. Let me hear you say your Creed I believe in God the Father Almighty c. Q. Why do you say I believe and not we believe A. Because every man must be saved by his own Faith Good Boy saith John 't was well answered You hear what he saith That every man must be saved by his own Faith And this serves to reprove and condemn the Church of Rome who hold that a man may be saved by an Implicit Faith and this very Faith say they drove the Devil away from the Collier The Devil asked the Collier how he did believe he answered As the Church believes And how doth the Church believe As I believe At which the Devil departed Whereas we know that every man must be saved by his own Faith O Woman great is thy Faith be it unto thee as Thou believest not as others believe And Faith is a perswasion of the heart grounded upon the Promises of God not upon Churches and Councils The Papists tell us that such General Councils decreed such a thing and such Learned-men and Fathers were of such an Opinion We know that Churches have erred and General Councils as the Council of Nice consisting of three hundred and eighteen Bishops witness Paphnutius It is not humane Learning that opens the eyes of the blind that is the proper work of Christ The Learnedst men have been the greatest Hereticks Heresie as one saith is a Bastard bego between a Learned head and an Unsanctified heart Paul accounted his Learning among his all things but Dung. Where is the Disputer of this world Apollos an eloquent man instructed by Aquilla and Priscilla two poor Tent-makers And Christ revealed himself to poor Fisher-men and Shepherds I thank thee O Father that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent and hast revealed them unto babes and sucklings Neither must we pin our Faith upon other mans sleeves no not upon Kings and Princes Not many Mighty not many Noble after the flesh Great men are as ignorant of Christ as any The Princes of this world knew not Christ If they had known him they would not have crucified the Lord of Glory Nor obey any further than their Commands consist with God's Commands c. Well done John for one Article H. Wife the substance of what John Priest hath said I have heard delivered by some of them and can name the persons yea the example of the Collier for instance Prethee speak thy mind wife may not this go for a fall at footbal W. Truly Husband he hath overthrown what he said before But good Husband give over talking for this time I begin to be sleepy H. Hold a very little more and I will tell you this short passage of which I was credibly informed In Katherine Coleman Parish in London a Dutchman a Jew and a Papist came to pay their Daes as they call it but I cannot say they came together But saith John Priest Wherefore come not you to Church I go to the Dutch-Church Wherefore come not you to Church I am a Jew Wherefore come not you I am a Roman-Catholick John is very kinde receives his money and farewell Then another comes also contented to pay his money but Sir John suspecting him to be some sort of Phanatick ask'd him Wherefore come not you to Church he saith but a little Come I know what you are you frequent Private Meetings you are a Fanatick I shall take a course with you I 'le prosecute the Law against you but very kind to his Countryman the Roman To speak it between our selves they say wife that there is more favour to be found under the Turk than under some that profess to be Christians W. Husband I cannot forbear sleep any longer the Child hath lugg'd me so hard that unless I fetch a nap I shall not have any milk for him when he wakes H. Wife I 'le rise betime in the morning and fetch a halfpeth of Ale that will recruit you again W. Nay Husband take two farthings more off the Cupboards head and bring a pot that will make us all drink I must turn on my other side pray have a care of the Child and so goodnight Husband H. Goodnight Good-wife FINIS
the one a Doctor of Dulvinity the other a Doctor of the Civil Law lately at a Sack-shop fit for the Crime could not easily be determined Excommunication could not he was no Member of the Church if a Member little would it advantage the Bishops Court wanting money to pay for his Absolution If the Cat should eat him then the Bread had been twice prophaned kill him they could not before they caught him and it 's questionable whether it were not before the invention of Mouse-traps no doubt but it put the Synod to a great deal of trouble In things of like imoortance our Convocation is as able to manage as that Synod and that Synod able to do as much good as ours have done or would do were they to sit seven years longer VV. Husband what is this Convocation is it constituted according to Magna Charta the Rule of the Gospel H. Wife for your satisfaction I 'le tell you it is not according to the Rule of Gospel for the constitution of it for in the Churches of Christ in the primitive times the Power lay not in any single person but in the Members of the Churches aswel as in the principal Officers This Convocation is of Romes Constitution and left unto us by succession as it was in the darkest times of Popery and as it is at this day under the Romane Empire in which the Laity as they call the common People have no voice in the election of the Clerks according to the Government of the Mystical Body as the Doctor calls it the Church of England the People being denied that priviledge for their precious Souls which they have in some cases in temporal things for their perishing bodies Bear with me for some homely comparisons and some circumstances and I will tell you the manner of this Convocation and constitution of it by and by W. Husband I hope there is no need of such Complements between you and me Pray tell me H. Wife not long since I was standing in Newgate-Market in London where I saw at a distance a strange Creature mounted on the back of a beast but approaching near me I perceived it to be a Gentleman-Fackanapes on Horse-back and the Bears led by the nose following him to the misery of the stake there to baited with Dogs This Gentleman is no English Native but a Foreigner whether of some parts of Italy or America I know not his habit is an hairy rough garment yet nothing but what Nature did afford him and with the bridle on his arm for so I 'le call it for imitation like himself very Ape as we say There is a Gentleman John Priest with whom you may parallel this Gentleman Jackanape's in some passages who is mounted upon the Magisterial power of the Beast and with Institution and Induction which is as pretty a Popish knack as any is in all the Pack comes to the Parish and they must take him for better or worse for their Pastor although he never tasted of one bit of Bread which came down from Heaven nor drop of living Water to which he is a stranger Watchman or Overseer although the Scales never fell from his eyes nor ever opened by that great Occulist who only is in Commission for that purpose and follow him they must although quite blind they must see with his eyes and be led by him into the misery of the Ditch This Gentleman John Priest is no true Native qua Saeerdos as a Priest but as a Romane and his habit a Rough Garment to deceive the People according to the nature of the Beast but not any garment no nor a rag of any thing but what Nature doth afford him For imitation apish and wanton with a strange woman and nothing fits his fancy better than the Fashions of the old Whore Well a Convocation must be called by whom this Gentleman John Priest with the rest of the Gentlemen John Priests of the several Diocesses and Parishes must make choice of the Clerks who are men called to the work of Priesthood as himself and although the Bishops sit in Parliament by vertue of the King 's Writ yet they are of the Corporation and must have not a finger only but a foot in it and then as we say in a Country Proverb The Pottage is never the better what they are we talked on before And whatsoever is brewed in the Convocation I may not say who grinds the Malt being tund up into the House and there a cork put in the Bunn-hole I mean confirmed by Act is Jus Divinum And the People must be led by the nose of an Implicit Faith to believe that it is their duty to observe and practise which Implicit Faith brings more misery than the Bears are brought unto at the Stake the misery of the one is Finite the other Infinite If they observe not the Dictates and Commands of the same they are Fin'd Imprison'd Transportation threatned c. W. Husband what 's become of Sions King all this while one JESUS H. Wife well remembred shall I tell you they have served him as Herod Pontius Pilate and the High Priests sent him into another world or else transported him to Tangier or else where for Deus hic nihil fecet he hath not been seen or heard of here W. Husband that is some comfort to them that shall follow after if their Captain and Head be gone before but what is to be done in this case for remedy H. Wife nothing as I know of but the old Weapons Preces et Lachrime Prayers and Tears wait upon God and then you shall see as Athanasius said in the like case but Nubeculo cito transitura a little Cloud quickly past over But Wife you put me out with your talking what I was going to say concerning John Priest a little more when the House is adjourn'd Acts extant and the Bishop come home Country John Priest in duty gives his Lordship a visit and bids him welcome home thanking him for his pains c. The Bishop gives John some account of their work good thinks John this will help of spin out a little time next Sunday in the Pulpit or Pue and then John addresses his speech unto his Neighbours Neighbours I have been with my Lord Bishop who hath given me a Narrative of the Proceedings of the House for the setling and right regulating thereof The Church of England it 's well known hath been accounted the most Glorious Church and hath had the preheminence of all the Churches in the Christian world however it hath been clouded and eclipsed by some Schismatical and Seditious Spirits in the late unhappy times of Libertinism and still Fanatick Spirits do abound yet such good and wholsome Laws are enacted and made for the suppressing of the same that the Church of England may be restored to its former Beauty and Primitive Purity For never was there a more Learned Pious Wise Grave Juditious Assembly of Divines of Bishops Doctors