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be_v believe_v as_o matter_n of_o faith._n 9_o if_o a_o man_n consent_v to_o such_o a_o definition_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o impose_v it_o on_o other_o joh._n gerson_n treat_v at_o large_a about_o the_o obstinacy_n which_o make_v one_o a_o heretic_n in_o several_a discourse_n before_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n and_o he_o follow_v st._n augustins_n doctrine_n in_o say_v that_o it_o consist_v in_o not_o seek_v 408._o after_o truth_n and_o not_o obey_v it_o when_o he_o have_v find_v it_o melchior_n canus_n find_v fault_n with_o the_o uncertain_a mark_n of_o obstinacy_n give_v by_o other_o and_o he_o resolve_v it_o at_o last_o into_o this_o that_o a_o man_n hold_v a_o 9_o opinion_n which_o he_o know_v to_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o catholic_n faith_n but_o then_o he_o require_v 1._o that_o he_o be_v certain_a that_o it_o belong_v to_o it_o and_o it_o be_v not_o enough_o that_o learn_v man_n say_v so_o 2._o that_o he_o must_v know_v it_o by_o a_o infallible_a authority_n for_o otherwise_o a_o man_n persist_v in_o his_o opinion_n may_v be_v great_a rashness_n and_o presumption_n but_o it_o be_v not_o heresy_n but_o in_o case_n a_o person_n ignorance_n be_v such_o as_o make_v his_o error_n involuntary_a it_o do_v excuse_v he_o from_o heresy_n because_o that_o be_v not_o a_o voluntary_a error_n suarez_n and_o other_o after_o he_o in_o plain_a term_n make_v the_o obstinacy_n to_o lie_v in_o not_o submit_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n because_o while_o a_o 10._o man_n do_v yield_v to_o the_o church_n authority_n they_o account_v he_o no_o heretic_n â—his_fw-la be_v indeed_o a_o argument_n according_a to_o their_o way_n of_o declare_v heretic_n but_o we_o be_v now_o inquire_v what_o that_o obstinacy_n be_v which_o do_v real_o make_v
a_o man_n such_o st._n augustins_n opinion_n be_v report_v by_o aquinus_n as_o the_o reason_n of_o his_o judgement_n that_o be_v adopt_v into_o the_o body_n of_o the_o canon-law_n and_o therefore_o that_o aught_o to_o be_v the_o standard_n according_a to_o which_o they_o be_v to_o pronounce_v a_o person_n obstinate_a if_o man_n do_v not_o wiâ—h_a diligence_n and_o caution_n seek_v after_o truth_n and_o be_v not_o willing_a to_o embrace_v it_o when_o they_o find_v it_o than_o they_o be_v to_o be_v account_v heretic_n for_o be_v obstinate_a but_o st._n augustin_n go_v no_o further_o however_o suarez_n will_v seem_v to_o agree_v with_o he_o but_o it_o be_v worth_a the_o while_n to_o consider_v his_o doctrine_n about_o it_o 1._o he_o affirm_v that_o it_o be_v not_o enough_o for_o one_o to_o be_v ready_a to_o submit_v 11._o to_o god_n word_n either_o write_v or_o unwritten_a but_o the_o submission_n must_v be_v with_o respect_n to_o the_o church_n as_o propose_v both_o to_o we_o 2._o that_o those_o who_o believe_v any_o doctrine_n because_o their_o judgement_n ibid._n tell_v they_o it_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n if_o they_o therein_o follow_v their_o own_o judgement_n and_o not_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o church_n they_o be_v guilty_a of_o such_o a_o obstinacy_n as_o make_v heretic_n 3_o that_o it_o do_v not_o excuse_n â—f_o he_o be_v willing_a to_o believe_v the_o church_n if_o 13._o he_o â—â—es_v reason_n and_o argument_n to_o move_v he_o for_o this_o he_o say_v be_v not_o to_o believe_v the_o church_n authority_n as_o divine_a but_o after_o a_o human_a manner_n which_o may_v consist_v with_o obstinacy_n against_o the_o church_n as_o a_o rule_n of_o faith._n 4_o that_o it_o be_v not_o yet_o necessary_a in_o order_n to_o this_o obstinacy_n to_o believe_v the_o church_n to_o have_v infallible_a authority_n for_o then_o those_o must_v be_v excuse_v from_o heretical_a obstinacy_n who_o deny_v it_o but_o it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o the_o church_n be_v propose_v as_o a_o true_a church_n who_o authority_n he_o be_v bind_v to_o submit_v to_o the_o short_a of_o all_o this_o matter_n be_v if_o a_o man_n resolve_v to_o believe_v as_o the_o church_n believe_v a_o very_a small_a thing_n will_v excuse_v he_o from_o heresy_n but_o if_o not_o nothing_o according_a to_o suarez_n will_v do_v it_o unless_o it_o be_v ignorance_n as_o to_o the_o church_n propose_v and_o this_o be_v the_o modern_a notion_n of_o heresy_n which_o appear_v to_o i_o to_o be_v very_o unreasonable_a on_o these_o account_n 1._o suppose_v a_o person_n have_v a_o general_a disposition_n of_o mind_n to_o believe_v whatever_o be_v sufficient_o propose_v to_o he_o as_o revealed_z by_o god_n and_o believe_v sincere_o whatever_o he_o know_v to_o be_v contain_v in_o scripture_n i_o will_v say_v know_v whether_o this_o disposition_n of_o mind_n do_v not_o real_o excuse_v he_o from_o heretical_a obstinacy_n and_o yet_o this_o be_v very_o consistent_a with_o doubt_v whether_o the_o church_n be_v account_v as_o the_o proponent_n of_o matter_n of_o faith._n 2._o be_v it_o necessary_a in_o order_n to_o heretical_a obstinacy_n that_o the_o person_n believe_v the_o proponent_n to_o be_v infallible_a or_o not_o if_o it_o be_v than_o none_o can_v be_v convince_v of_o heretical_a obstinacy_n but_o such_o as_o reject_v the_o church_n authority_n when_o they_o believe_v it_o infallible_a and_o then_o none_o of_o we_o can_v be_v charge_v with_o it_o for_o we_o do_v not_o believe_v the_o church_n infallibility_n if_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a than_o the_o church_n infallibility_n be_v not_o necessary_a to_o faith_n for_o iâ—_n order_n to_o heretical_a obstinacy_n he_o must_v be_v convince_v of_o resist_v that_o which_o be_v necessary_a in_o order_n to_o faâ—â—h_v from_o whence_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o the_o church_n infallibility_n be_v noâ—_n equire_v as_o the_o ground_n of_o faith._n 3_o suppose_v a_o person_n think_v himself_o bind_v in_o conscience_n to_o believe_v those_o guide_n which_o god_n by_o his_o providence_n have_v set_v over_o he_o and_o he_o believe_v to_o be_v sincere_a and_o honest_a and_o these_o tell_v he_o there_o be_v no_o ground_n to_o believe_v on_o the_o church_n authority_n as_o be_v sound_v neither_o in_o scripture_n nor_o antiquity_n nor_o reason_n be_v not_o he_o excuse_v hereby_o from_o heretical_a obstinacy_n 4._o suppose_v he_o declare_v himself_o ready_a to_o believe_v the_o church_n authority_n if_o it_o be_v sufficient_o propose_v to_o he_o i._n e._n with_o such_o reason_n and_o argument_n as_o be_v proper_a to_o convince_v he_o but_o after_o all_o he_o declare_v that_o he_o can_v see_v any_o such_o and_o yet_o aquinas_n affirm_v no_o man_n can_v believe_v unless_o he_o see_v reason_n why_o he_o shall_v 〈◊〉_d 3._o how_o then_o can_v a_o man_n be_v liable_a to_o heretical_a obstinacy_n because_o he_o only_o refuse_v to_o believe_v when_o he_o see_v no_o reason_n to_o believe_v 5._o suppose_v he_o do_v believe_v that_o which_o the_o church_n propose_v not_o mere_o upon_o its_o authority_n but_o upon_o the_o reason_n which_o the_o church_n offer_v why_o must_v this_o man_n be_v liable_a to_o heretical_a obstinacy_n for_o believe_v upon_o the_o church_n reason_n what_o a_o wonderful_a nice_a thing_n be_v heresy_n make_v it_o seem_v by_o this_o rare_a doctrine_n it_o do_v not_o excuse_v from_o heresy_n to_o believe_v even_o truth_n itself_o if_o it_o be_v upon_o ground_n of_o reason_n which_o the_o church_n itself_o give_v but_o it_o must_v be_v take_v mere_o from_o the_o church_n authority_n and_o yet_o that_o very_a authority_n must_v be_v believe_v on_o the_o ground_n of_o reason_n or_o the_o motive_n of_o gredibility_n 6._o suppose_v a_o person_n have_v use_v the_o best_a mean_n he_o can_v to_o find_v out_o his_o obligation_n to_o believe_v on_o the_o church_n authority_n and_o after_o all_o he_o can_v find_v any_o such_o thing_n what_o obligation_n be_v he_o under_o to_o inquire_v far_o and_o from_o whence_o do_v it_o arise_v and_o if_o he_o be_v not_o under_o any_o how_o can_v he_o be_v guilty_a of_o herecial_a obstinacy_n who_o be_v under_o no_o obligation_n to_o search_v any_o far_o for_o obstinacy_n must_v suppose_v resist_v some_o obligation_n 7._o suppose_v he_o be_v willing_a to_o believe_v on_o the_o church_n authority_n if_o that_o church_n be_v make_v appear_v to_o he_o to_o be_v the_o one_o catholic_n church_n of_o christ_n but_o when_o he_o come_v to_o examine_v this_o he_o find_v that_o he_o must_v exclude_v very_o great_a and_o considerable_a part_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n to_o reduce_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n to_o that_o of_o the_o roman_a communion_n how_o can_v it_o then_o be_v heretical_a obstinacy_n not_o to_o suppose_v a_o part_n to_o be_v the_o whole_a 8._o suppose_v he_o have_v overcome_v this_o yet_o if_o he_o shall_v mistake_v about_o the_o seat_n of_o infallibility_n be_v he_o not_o still_o as_o liable_a to_o the_o charge_n of_o heretical_a obstinacy_n because_o the_o true_a reason_n of_o it_o be_v that_o such_o a_o person_n reject_v that_o which_o god_n have_v choose_v as_o the_o proper_a mean_n to_o propound_v matter_n of_o faith_n to_o we_o but_o if_o he_o shall_v be_v mistake_v in_o the_o true_a proponent_n he_o be_v in_o as_o much_o danger_n of_o heretical_a obstinacy_n still_o as_o suppose_v a_o man_n take_v a_o general_n council_n as_o represent_v the_o catholic_n church_n to_o be_v the_o only_a true_a proponent_n of_o faith_n and_o therefore_o reject_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o pope_n in_o this_o matter_n i_o desire_v to_o know_v whether_o this_o be_v heretical_a obstinacy_n or_o not_o if_o not_o then_o reject_v the_o true_a proponent_n do_v not_o make_v any_o liable_a to_o it_o if_o it_o do_v than_o there_o be_v heretical_a obstinacy_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o well_o as_o out_o of_o it_o and_o so_o much_o in_o answer_n to_o the_o replier_n charge_v of_o heresy_n on_o the_o church_n of_o england_n 3._o the_o next_o charge_n relate_v to_o the_o insufficient_a authority_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o that_o on_o these_o account_n 1._o in_o that_o it_o leave_v every_o man_n to_o judge_v for_o himself_o 2._o because_o she_o dare_v not_o use_v the_o true_a argument_n against_o sect_n for_o fear_v of_o their_o be_v turn_v upon_o herself_o 3._o because_o she_o deny_v a_o appeal_n to_o a_o high_a judicature_n 1._o it_o be_v urge_v in_o the_o paper_n that_o among_o we_o every_o man_n think_v himself_o as_o competent_a a_o judge_n of_o scripture_n as_o the_o very_a apostle_n it_o be_v answer_v that_o every_o man_n among_o we_o do_v not_o pretend_v to_o a_o infallible_a spirit_n but_o all_o yield_v the_o apostle_n have_v it_o and_o by_o be_v a_o judge_n of_o scripture_n if_o no_o more_o be_v mean_v than_o that_o
the_o add_v german_a to_o it_o restrain_v the_o sense_n of_o ocean_n to_o it_o within_o certain_a bound_n and_o exclude_v many_o part_n of_o the_o great_a ocean_n which_o be_v without_o those_o limit_n just_o so_o it_o be_v in_o add_v roman_a to_o catholic_n catholic_n alone_o comprehend_v all_o the_o part_n of_o the_o church_n but_o roman_a add_v to_o it_o confine_v the_o sense_n of_o it_o to_o those_o who_o embrace_v the_o faith_n receive_v in_o the_o roman_a communion_n and_o this_o exclude_v all_o other_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n and_o so_o make_v a_o part_n to_o be_v the_o whole_a 2._o i_o object_v far_o that_o if_o this_o have_v be_v the_o catholic_a church_n mean_v in_o the_o creed_n this_o limitation_n ought_v to_o have_v be_v express_v in_o the_o creed_n and_o put_v to_o person_n to_o be_v baptize_v which_o be_v never_o do_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n itself_o i_o thence_o infer_v that_o it_o do_v not_o believe_v itself_o to_o be_v the_o one_o catholic_a church_n which_o we_o profess_v to_o believe_v in_o the_o creed_n here_o the_o author_n of_o the_o reply_n answer_v that_o catholic_a and_o roman_a 5._o catholic_n be_v in_o the_o language_n of_o antiquity_n one_o and_o the_o same_o thing_n and_o this_o point_n be_v never_o call_v in_o question_n in_o the_o time_n when_o the_o creed_n be_v publish_v there_o be_v no_o occasion_n to_o put_v roman_a into_o the_o creed_n no_o more_o than_o of_o put_v in_o consubstantial_a with_o the_o father_n till_o it_o be_v deny_v this_o be_v a_o substantial_a way_n of_o answer_v the_o difficulty_n if_o it_o will_v in_o any_o measure_n hold_v but_o i_o shall_v now_o prove_v just_a the_o contrary_a to_o have_v be_v the_o sense_n of_o authority_n by_o plain_a and_o undeniable_a instance_n in_o matter_n of_o fact_n in_o most_o of_o the_o age_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n from_o the_o very_a next_o to_o the_o apostolical_a down_o to_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n to_o which_o i_o shall_v only_o premise_v this_o which_o i_o think_v no_o roman_a catholic_n will_v deny_v i_o viz._n that_o the_o roman_n catholic_n church_n do_v imply_v obedience_n to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n as_o supreme_a visible_a head_n of_o the_o church_n under_o christ._n for_o bellarmin_n and_o other_o make_v not_o only_a faith_n and_o sacrament_n 2._o necessary_a to_o the_o be_v of_o the_o church_n but_o submission_n to_o lawful_a pastor_n and_o especial_o to_o the_o pope_n as_o christ_n only_a vicar_n upon_o earth_n and_o he_o place_v the_o essential_a unity_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n 5._o in_o the_o conjunction_n of_o the_o member_n under_o christ_n and_o hâ—s_a vicar_n as_o head_n of_o the_o church_n and_o from_o hence_o he_o exclude_v schismatic_n out_o of_o the_o catholic_a church_n though_o they_o have_v unity_n of_o faith_n and_o sacrament_n and_o hope_n and_o spirit_n and_o the_o roman_a catechism_n make_v 10._o union_n with_o the_o pope_n as_o visible_a head_n of_o the_o church_n necessary_a to_o the_o 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