Selected quad for the lemma: faith_n
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A49609
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A letter from a minister in the country, to a member of the convocation
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N. L., Minister in the country.
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1689
(1689)
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Wing L46; ESTC R1292
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be_v herein_o concern_v now_o there_o be_v three_o method_n may_v be_v take_v either_o that_o observe_v by_o archbishop_n bramhall_n or_o a_o form_n hypothetical_o draw_v up_o or_o that_o of_o the_o bill_n of_o union_n i_o can_v think_v that_o of_o the_o primate_n have_v escape_v you_o but_o yet_o because_o i_o have_v the_o book_n before_o i_o i_o shall_v transcribe_v it_o work_n his_o life_n prefix_v to_o his_o work_n non_fw-la annihilantes_fw-la priores_fw-la ordines_fw-la si_fw-la quos_fw-la habuit_fw-la nec_fw-la validitatem_fw-la aut_fw-la invaliditatem_fw-la eorundem_fw-la determinantes_fw-la multo_fw-la minus_fw-la ordines_fw-la sacros_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la forinsecarum_fw-la condemnantes_fw-la quos_fw-la proprio_fw-la judici_fw-la relinquimus_fw-la sed_fw-la solummodo_fw-la supplentes_fw-la quicquid_fw-la prius_fw-la defuit_fw-la per_fw-la canon_n ecclesiae_fw-la anglicanae_n requisitum_fw-la &_o providentes_fw-la paci_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la ut_fw-la schismatis_fw-la tollatur_fw-la occasio_fw-la et_fw-la conscientiis_fw-la fidelium_fw-la satisfiat_fw-la nec_fw-la ullo_fw-la modo_fw-la dubitent_fw-la de_fw-la ejus_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la aut_fw-la actus_fw-la suos_fw-la presbyteriale_n tanquam_fw-la invalidos_fw-la aversentur_fw-la in_o cujus_fw-la rei_fw-la testimonium_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o may_v here_o observe_v how_o cautious_o this_o great_a man_n proceed_v betwixt_o ratify_v and_o annul_v their_o order_n that_o he_o may_v not_o give_v or_o take_v away_o too_o much_o and_o withal_o how_o far_o he_o think_v it_o necessary_a to_o go_v for_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o take_v away_o the_o occasion_n of_o schism_n the_o other_o method_n be_v hypothetical_a after_o the_o same_o way_n that_o be_v use_v in_o baptise_v such_o of_o who_o baptism_n we_o have_v no_o proof_n viz._n if_o thou_o be_v not_o already_o ordain_v i_o ordain_v thou_o etc._n etc._n the_o only_a objection_n i_o can_v foresee_v at_o present_a against_o this_o be_v that_o the_o other_o be_v matter_n of_o fact_n that_o be_v in_o question_n but_o here_o it_o be_v matter_n of_o right_n but_o to_o that_o i_o answer_v that_o be_v not_o to_o the_o point_n for_o both_o case_n be_v hypothetical_o put_v and_o so_o the_o right_o be_v no_o more_o determine_v by_o the_o one_o than_o the_o fact_n be_v by_o the_o other_o and_o if_o thou_o be_v not_o already_o baptise_a etc._n etc._n do_v not_o declare_v any_o thing_n about_o the_o fact_n then_o if_o thou_o be_v not_o already_o ordain_v etc._n etc._n do_v not_o declare_v any_o thing_n about_o matter_n of_o right_n but_o both_o be_v leave_v in_o suspense_n and_o so_o if_o thou_o be_v not_o already_o etc._n etc._n be_v no_o more_o than_o the_o bishop_n nec_fw-la validitatem_fw-la aut_fw-la invaliditatem_fw-la determinantes_fw-la the_o 3d_o be_v that_o of_o the_o bill_n of_o union_n as_o i_o have_v hear_v which_o be_v that_o the_o person_n to_o be_v qualify_v shall_v be_v by_o imposition_n of_o the_o bishop_n hand_n receive_v with_o a_o certain_a form_n of_o word_n to_o signify_v his_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o a_o minister_n therein_o 5._o declaration_n and_o subscription_n the_o former_a respect_n the_o service-book_n the_o latter_a the_o article_n as_o all_o public_a form_n shall_v be_v so_o compose_v as_o to_o take_v in_o as_o many_o into_o its_o communion_n article_n see_v king_n charles_n i._o declaration_n for_o the_o ratification_n of_o the_o article_n as_o be_v consistent_a with_o the_o constitution_n and_o self-preservation_n so_o ought_v all_o declaration_n and_o subscription_n to_o answer_v the_o same_o end_n and_o to_o be_v draw_v up_o in_o such_o word_n as_o may_v be_v for_o the_o peace_n and_o establishment_n of_o the_o church_n the_o ease_n of_o those_o that_o be_v to_o officiate_v in_o it_o and_o the_o preservation_n of_o a_o good_a understanding_n among_o they_o and_o i_o persuade_v myself_o it_o will_v have_v be_v more_o for_o the_o good_a of_o 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and_o orthodox_n that_o there_o be_v no_o error_n in_o it_o which_o may_v necessitate_v or_o warrant_v any_o man_n to_o disturb_v the_o peace_n or_o renounce_v the_o communion_n they_o do_v intimate_v by_o the_o qualify_a sense_n they_o give_v of_o they_o as_o article_n of_o peace_n and_o the_o negative_a sense_n they_o allow_v a_o subscription_n in_o so_o as_o not_o to_o contradict_v they_o that_o there_o may_v be_v some_o doctrine_n hold_v by_o the_o church_n which_o good_a and_o honest_a man_n may_v have_v some_o scruple_n about_o or_o not_o be_v satisfy_v in_o and_o it_o may_v be_v suppose_v again_o that_o a_o good_a and_o honest_a man_n may_v question_v whether_o such_o a_o subscription_n be_v the_o subscription_n which_o the_o church_n do_v intend_v or_o be_v satisfy_v with_o and_o therefore_o though_o he_o can_v subscribe_v in_o their_o sense_n may_v think_v it_o unlawful_a to_o subscribe_v to_o apply_v this_o to_o the_o case_n of_o the_o present_a conformity_n suppose_v we_o not_o a_o dissenter_n but_o a_o young_a student_n qualify_v by_o a_o competent_a stock_n of_o humane_a learning_n and_o knowledge_n in_o divinity_n think_v of_o enter_v into_o holy_a order_n and_o as_o a_o prudent_a and_o good_a man_n first_o of_o all_o consider_v what_o he_o be_v to_o do_v the_o first_o thing_n he_o meet_v with_o be_v that_o he_o must_v declare_v his_o unfeigned_a assent_n and_o consent_n to_o the_o use_n of_o all_o and_o every_o thing_n contain_v and_o prescribe_v in_o and_o by_o the_o book_n of_o common-prayer_n and_o among_o which_o he_o find_v the_o apocrypha_fw-la be_v to_o be_v read_v now_o upon_o read_v perhaps_o dr._n reynolds_n or_o bishop_n cosius_fw-la etc._n etc._n upon_o that_o argument_n as_o he_o be_v convince_v of_o what_o our_o church_n hold_v that_o those_o book_n be_v not_o of_o divine_a authority_n so_o also_o for_o that_o reason_n that_o some_o of_o they_o contain_v thing_n which_o our_o writer_n prove_v to_o be_v manifest_o false_a upon_o this_o he_o query_n whether_o he_o may_v lawful_o read_v that_o in_o the_o church_n as_o a_o lesson_n for_o the_o people_n instruction_n which_o he_o be_v convince_v be_v false_a from_o thence_o he_o proceed_v to_o the_o psalm_n and_o as_o he_o know_v there_o be_v two_o translation_n in_o use_n so_o he_o think_v himself_o bind_v to_o compare_v they_o and_o upon_o comparison_n find_v these_o in_o some_o thing_n inconsistent_a and_o one_o time_n the_o one_o to_o deny_v what_o the_o other_o affirm_v now_o since_o but_o one_o of_o these_o can_v be_v true_a he_o question_n whether_o when_o he_o be_v to_o use_v both_o he_o may_v make_v the_o text_n contradict_v itself_o and_o in_o the_o desk_n read_v with_o the_o old_a they_o be_v not_o obedient_a unto_o his_o word_n in_o the_o pulpit_n or_o with_o the_o hebrew_n and_o the_o new_a read_v they_o rebel_v not_o against_o his_o word_n psal_n 105.28_o he_o proceed_v further_a and_o come_v to_o the_o creed_n and_o because_o that_o of_o athanasius_n be_v 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necessary_a by_o athanasius_n himself_o 1._o athana_n epist_n
ad_fw-la serapion_n tom._n 1._o nor_o be_v original_o either_o in_o the_o nicene_n true_o so_o call_v or_o athanasian_n creed_n nor_o last_o be_v it_o so_o think_v by_o our_o church_n which_o receive_v the_o four_o first_o general_n council_n consequent_o agree_v with_o the_o three_o 6._o council_n ephes_n part_n 2._o art._n 6._o that_o of_o ephesus_n which_o make_v a_o peremptory_a decree_n against_o all_o addition_n to_o be_v make_v hereafter_o to_o the_o creed_n from_o whence_o it_o follow_v that_o nothing_o else_o be_v then_o account_v necessary_a to_o be_v believe_v but_o what_o be_v contain_v in_o the_o nicene_n and_o now_o this_o young_a man_n doubt_n be_v further_o advance_v because_o this_o be_v a_o creed_n and_o to_o be_v subscribe_v to_o and_o so_o seem_v still_o less_o capable_a of_o the_o sense_n before_o give_v of_o subscription_n as_o a_o matter_n of_o peace_n only_o now_o how_o our_o querist_n about_o the_o commiss_n do_v in_o these_o matter_n i_o know_v not_o but_o i_o 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that_o will_v not_o say_v amen_o to_o it_o as_o well_o as_o to_o the_o dissenter_n and_o trouble_v to_o several_a of_o the_o order_n that_o subscribe_v it_o 5._o i_o shall_v now_o proceed_v to_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n in_o which_o the_o chief_a thing_n desire_v by_o the_o dissenter_n be_v that_o the_o presbytery_n may_v be_v restore_v to_o its_o ancient_a privilege_n and_o that_o the_o bishop_n will_v consult_v they_o and_o permit_v they_o to_o share_v in_o all_o act_n belong_v to_o their_o station_n which_o its_o likely_a will_v be_v a_o great_a ease_n to_o and_o also_o be_v for_o the_o honour_n of_o the_o bishop_n it_o will_v make_v he_o more_o belove_v by_o his_o clergy_n and_o take_v off_o from_o he_o whatever_o he_o may_v suffer_v when_o he_o be_v alone_o by_o any_o misgovernment_n he_o will_v then_o be_v as_o a_o cyprian_a reverence_v by_o all_o 6._o epist_n 6._o when_o he_o do_v as_o he_o that_o do_v nothing_o without_o their_o assistance_n and_o concurrence_n 6._o the_o last_o thing_n complain_v of_o be_v the_o want_n of_o due_a discipline_n and_o especial_o in_o the_o superficial_a issue_v forth_o of_o excommunication_n a_o matter_n indeed_o high_o scandalous_a and_o that_o be_v complain_v of_o by_o the_o church_n as_o well_o as_o those_o that_o dissent_v from_o it_o and_o be_v a_o subject_a therefore_o worthy_a of_o mature_a consideration_n and_o to_o that_o i_o leave_v it_o i_o have_v now_o do_v with_o the_o case_n of_o dissenter_n and_o have_v show_v how_o there_o be_v alteration_n may_v be_v make_v in_o the_o church_n in_o favour_n of_o they_o and_o the_o church_n not_o be_v the_o worse_a for_o they_o against_o which_o i_o know_v not_o what_o can_v be_v reasonable_o object_v but_o that_o either_o what_o can_v be_v hope_v for_o from_o they_o though_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v dispose_v to_o make_v such_o concession_n relaxation_n and_o alteration_n where_o be_v they_o that_o will_v come_v in_o or_o if_o they_o be_v so_o dispose_v 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such_o step_n may_v prevail_v upon_o the_o most_o dissatisfy_v but_o we_o may_v be_v certain_a of_o their_o due_a effect_n upon_o those_o that_o be_v sincere_a and_o impartial_a but_o it_o may_v be_v say_v what_o need_n be_v there_o of_o such_o or_o what_o benefit_n will_v it_o be_v to_o the_o church_n to_o admit_v those_o who_o when_o keep_v out_o be_v enemy_n and_o when_o let_v in_o will_v be_v no_o friend_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v in_o the_o word_n of_o the_o venerable_a prelate_n before_o quote_v these_o man_n 128._o the_o protestant_a peacemaker_n p._n 127_o 128._o in_o behalf_n of_o who_o i_o have_v speak_v be_v in_o be_v already_o and_o will_v preach_v somewhere_o or_o other_o and_o it_o be_v better_a we_o have_v they_o in_o public_a than_o in_o corner_n that_o so_o the_o church_n either_o have_v security_n for_o their_o peaceable_a doctrine_n which_o i_o very_o believe_v we_o may_v have_v as_o to_o most_o of_o they_o or_o opportunity_n to_o convict_v they_o of_o sedition_n what_o he_o say_v further_a be_v worthy_a of_o perusal_n and_o be_v sufficient_a to_o put_v the_o querie_n out_o of_o countenance_n viz._n but_o i_o have_v other_o guess_v argument_n that_o move_v i_o 1._o to_o those_o who_o ask_v what_o need_v of_o more_o union_n i_o return_v what_o need_v of_o holiness_n what_o need_v of_o godliness_n charity_n justice_n be_v these_o christian_a duty_n and_o be_v not_o union_n and_o peace_n as_o much_o so_o 2._o i_o be_o and_o must_v be_v in_o the_o mind_n that_o the_o strength_n of_o the_o protestant_a cause_n both_o here_o at_o home_n and_o throughout_o christendom_n lie_v in_o the_o union_n of_o protestant_n and_o the_o glory_n purity_n and_o power_n of_o christianity_n in_o this_o world_n stand_v or_o fall_v with_o protestantism_n 3._o i_o must_v be_v so_o ingenuous_a as_o to_o acknowledge_v that_o though_o the_o city_n and_o divers_a particular_a place_n flourish_z with_o such_o preacher_n as_o never_o they_o have_v before_o yet_o the_o way_n of_o preach_v in_o many_o part_n of_o the_o country_n and_o in_o some_o no_o obscure_a place_n too_o may_v be_v much_o improve_v and_o needs_o supply_v and_o it_o can_v never_o be_v make_v out_o to_o the_o world_n but_o it_o be_v better_a we_o have_v too_o many_o good_a preacher_n than_o too_o few_o i_o can_v tell_v some_o man_n in_o their_o ear_n they_o also_o have_v strange_o multiply_v curacy_n which_o be_v too_o often_o vacant_a the_o lord_n forgive_v they_o and_o redress_v this_o great_a evil_n in_o his_o church_n have_v clear_v this_o point_n i_o shall_v proceed_v to_o show_v general_n 3_o general_n 3._o that_o there_o be_v such_o thing_n in_o our_o church_n and_o constitution_n which_o may_v be_v alter_v so_o that_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v the_o better_a for_o such_o alteration_n and_o this_o be_v a_o case_n will_v require_v our_o consideration_n although_o there_o be_v not_o a_o dissenter_n among_o we_o and_o that_o may_v be_v by_o take_v away_o what_o may_v be_v spare_v and_o that_o sometime_o be_v superfluous_a by_o supply_v what_o be_v want_v by_o clear_v what_o be_v doubtful_a by_o amend_v what_o be_v amiss_o and_o improve_n what_o be_v tolerable_a and_o well_o so_o as_o to_o make_v it_o yet_o more_o beneficial_a and_o solemn_a 1._o by_o take_v away_o what_o may_v be_v spare_v and_o here_o it_o may_v well_o be_v query_v whether_o it_o be_v not_o better_a both_o for_o minister_n and_o people_n to_o have_v the_o sunday_n service_n shorten_v than_o continue_v to_o that_o length_n that_o it_o have_v at_o present_a for_o the_o people_n who_o whatever_o some_o devout_a person_n may_v conceive_v or_o howsoever_o they_o may_v be_v able_a to_o keep_v up_o their_o mind_n and_o temper_n be_v apt_a to_o flag_n and_o have_v their_o spirit_n tire_v and_o cloy_v by_o a_o tedious_a