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A29201 A replication to the Bishop of Chalcedon his Survey of the Vindication of the Church of England from criminous schism clearing the English laws from the aspertion of cruelty : with an appendix in answer to the exceptions of S.W. / by the Right Reverend John Bramhall ... Bramhall, John, 1594-1663. 1656 (1656) Wing B4228; ESTC R8982 229,419 463

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a_o single_a superior_n socrat._v l._n 2._o ●_o 11_o cypr._n epist._n l._n 1._o ep._n 3._o conc._n aphasia_n part_n 1._o act_n 7._o b●itain_n enjoy_v the_o cyprian_a privilege_n math_n paris_n in_o h_n 3._o a_o 1238._o itine●az_n ca●●b_n l_o 2._o c_o 1._o bellarmine_n ma●●s_v the_o apostle_n all_o equal_a in_o power_n i._o 4_o de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n c._n 23._o l._n 4_o de_fw-fr ro._n pont_n c._n 16._o l_o 1._o de_fw-fr ro_n pont._n c._n 12._o cypr._n de_fw-fr unit_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la cont._n jovin_n l._n 1._o c._n 14._o how_o peter_n head_n of_o the_o rest_n a_o superiority_n of_o order_n be_v sufficient_a to_o prevent_v schism_n the_o rest_n pastor_n as_o well_o as_o peter_n de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n l._n 4._o c._n 25._o l._n 1._o c._n 9_o sect._n 2._o universality_n a_o incommunicable_a qualification_n of_o the_o apostle_n 9_o c._n 8._o s._n 2._o bel_n l._n 4._o de_fw-fr ro._n pont_n c●4_n ●4_z all_o episcopal_a jurisdiction_n be_v not_o derive_v from_o the_o pope_n sect._n 3_o 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c._n 2._o ●ed_a l._n 3._o c._n 25._o vind._n p._n 115_o 116._o aqui._n ●_o 〈◊〉_d 2.2_o quaest_n 88_o art_n 2._o &_o 10._o a_o king_n have_v all_o power_n needful_a for_o the_o preservation_n of_o his_o kingdom_n a_o respective_a necessity_n be_v a_o sufficient_a ground_n of_o a_o reformation_n act._n 15.28_o act._n 21_o 20_o senec._n our_o reformation_n be_v necessary_a hall_n 24._o hen._n 8._o sol_fw-la 205._o the_o regiment_n of_o the_o church_n conform_v to_o that_o of_o the_o commonwealth_n conc_fw-fr chalc_n c._n 11._o vel_fw-la 12._o dist._n 99_o in_o gain_n or_o loss_n all_o circumstance_n to_o be_v consider_v 1_o pet._n 1.7_o our_o reformation_n not_o contrary_a to_o the_o decree_n of_o general_a counsel_n novel_a 11_o &_o 131._o p._n 127._o but_o in_o pur_fw-mi suance_n of_o they_o king_n henry_n divorce_n lawful_a but_o no_o ground_n of_o the_o reformation_n hall_n in_o hen._n 8._o a_o 20._o sol_fw-la 180._o b._n &_o a_o 21_o f._n 182._o all_o the_o cardinal_n of_o rome_n 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england_n not_o material_a 2_o king_n 18.4_o sect._n 2._o conc._n turor_fw-la r●sp_n ad_fw-la art_n 3._o 48._o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o withdraw_v obedience_n from_o papal_a authority_n corrupt_v prince_n the_o last_o judge_n of_o the_o injury_n do_v to_o their_o subject_n by_o pope_n bish._n epist._n ad_fw-la reg._n jocob_n p._n 11._o rom._n 13.1_o &_o 2._o prov._n ●_o 15_o kingly_a authority_n from_o god_n not_o papal_a sect._n 3_o the_o ground_n of_o our_o separation_n an._n 30._o sect._n 4._o the_o pope_n new_a article_n of_o faith_n a_o just_a cause_n of_o separation_n the_o de●●ining_n of_o the_o cup_n in_o the_o sacrament_n a_o just_a cause_n of_o separation_n odoardus_fw-la barlosa_fw-la forma_fw-la celebrandi_fw-la etc._n etc._n papist_n right_o heir_n of_o the_o donatist_n optat._n l._n 2._o whether_o protestant_n and_o papist_n differ_v in_o essential_o psal._n 139.16_o sect._n 5._o papist_n acknowledge_v possibility_n of_o our_o salvation_n as_o much_o as_o we_o of_o they_o sect._n 6._o our_o separation_n only_o from_o error_n math._n 15.9_o we_o arrogate_v to_o ourselves_o no_o new_a church_n etc._n etc._n whether_o our_o religion_n be_v the_o same_o with_o they_o or_o not_o we_o be_v no_o schismatic_n quaest_n 14._o the_o side_n a●t_fw-la 1._o justification_n by_o special_a fa●●h_n no_o a●●icle_n of_o our_o church_n probl._n 22._o probl._n 26._o our_o negative_n no_o article_n of_o faith_n sect._n 7._o a_o implicit_a submission_n to_o the_o catholic_n church_n sufficient_a to_o salvation_n 〈…〉_z papist_n agree_v not_o what_o be_v their_o infallible_a proponent_n aust._n epist_n 48._o the_o name_n of_o catholic_n from_o universal_a communion_n not_o right_a belief_n c._n 2_o sect_n 6._o more_o dangerous_a to_o exclude_v then_o to_o include_v other_o in_o our_o communion_n the_o politic_a supremacy_n of_o prince_n in_o
ecclesiastical_a cause_n hist_o conc_fw-fr trid._n an._n 1544_o an._n 1545._o an._n 1548._o the_o oath_n of_o supremacy_n justify_v sand._n the_o schism_n p_o 59_o de_fw-fr schis_n angelo_fw-mi p._n 57_o hail_o a_o 22._o h._n 8._o pol_n de_fw-fr conc_fw-fr resp._n ad_fw-la cue_n 74._o &_o 75._o 1_o pet._n 2.13_o a●t_fw-la ●ccl_n angl._n art_n 37._o memor_n de_fw-fr samag_n catholic●_n cap._n 10._o a_o sancta_fw-la clara._n expos._n parapb_n in_o art_n 37_o ibidem_fw-la sect._n 2._o no_o contradiction_n in_o my_o word_n sect._n 3_o constantine_n ruffin_n l._n 1._o c._n 2._o theodorit_fw-fr l._n 1._o c._n 11._o euseb._n de_fw-fr vita_fw-la constant_n l._n 1._o c._n 35._o idem_fw-la l_o 3._o c._n 23_o euseb._n hist._n l._n 10._o c._n 5._o aust._n epist_n 162._o euseb_n hist._n l._n 10._o c._n 6._o socrat._v l._n 1._o c._n 22._o sozom_n l._n 2._o c._n 27._o euseb._n de_fw-fr vit_fw-fr const._n l._n 1._o c._n 37._o theodor._n l._n 1._o c._n 19_o valentinian_n theodosius_n socrat_n l_o 7._o c._n 22._o evagr._fw-la l._n 9_o c._n 12._o valentinian_n the_o elder_a sozo_n l._n 6_o c._n 7._o idem_fw-la l._n 6._o c._n 6._o theod._n l_o 4_o c_o 7_o &_o 8._o cod_n th●od_n l_o 4._o c._n 5._o in_o praemio_fw-la l._n 5._o basilius_n an._n 869._o charles_n the_o great_a albert_n crantz_n metr_v l._n 1._o c._n 7._o vindicat._n c._n 7._o pag._n 167._o epist._n ad_fw-la joan._n 2._o in_o cedice_n justinian_n sup._n c._n 4._o sect_n 1._o l_o 2._o cont._n petili_n c._n 51._o sup_v c._n 2._o s._n 4_o infid_v unmask_v c._n 7_o s._n 112._o p._n 534._o indulgence_n the_o excommunication_n of_o henry_n the_o eight_o sect._n 2._o b●●_n pii_fw-la 4._o the_o church_n of_o rome_n no_o foundation_n of_o christian_n rev._n 21.24_o l._n 2._o de_fw-fr pont._n rom._n c._n 12._o 1_o pet_n 5.1_o sect._n 3_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n obtrude_v new_a article_n of_o faith_n and_o excommunicate_v for_o not_o receive_v they_o an._n 1564._o an._n 1569._o the_o papacy_n a_o cause_n of_o separation_n bull._n pauli_n 4._o the_o pope_n excommunicate_v the_o eastern_a church_n no_o recusant_n in_o england_n or_o few_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o qui_fw-fr elizabeth_n reign_n the_o disclose_v of_o the_o great_a bull._n cam_z elizab_v a_o 1●70_n image_n of_o both_o church_n edit_n a_o 1653_o p._n 442._o camd._n elizab._n a_o 1559._o more_o protestant_n suffer_v now_o then_o roman_a catholic_n at_o the_o reformation_n acworth_n cont._n saunder_n l._n 2._o p._n 197._o sect._n 4_o vind._n c_o 6._o s._n a_o general_a council_n complete_a without_o the_o pope_n greg_n l._n 1._o epist_n 24_o bron._n annot_n in_o conc._n 5._o the_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n for_o its_o superiority_n above_o the_o pope_n lawfail_v sect._n 1_o some_o rom._n cath._n formal_a schismatic_n the_o present_a roman_a church_n d●parted_v out_o of_o the_o ancient_a roman_a church_n and_o which_o be_v worse_o out_o of_o the_o catholic_n church_n lib_fw-la 2._o gent._n pet._n c._n 38._o the_o romanist_n true_a donatist_n ibid._n sect._n 1_o &_o 2._o the_o roman_a church_n not_o the_o catholic_n church_n l._n de_fw-fr unit_fw-la c._n 6._o if_o denial_n of_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n make_v protestant_n the_o world_n be_v full_a of_o protestann_n our_o separation_n not_o in_o essentials_n the_o eastern_a church_n true_a part_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n sect._n 3_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n not_o general_a nor_o free_a nor_o lawful_a hist_o conc._n try_v l._n 2._o a_o 1545._o the_o protestant_n not_o condemn_v by_o the_o patriarch_n of_o constantinople_n but_o the_o romanist_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d knolles_n turk_n bist_fw-ge in_o the_o life_n of_o am._n ●_o p._n 1503._o ib_a p._n 1500._o sect._n 4._o why_o r_o c._n not_o willing_a to_o argue_v of_o the_o pope_n patriarchall_a power_n answ._n to_o the_o pres_fw-fr s._n c._n 1._o s._n 1._o 1_o pet._n 3.20_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n st._n petes._n boat_n not_o noah_n ark_n our_o charity_n free_v we_o from_o schism_n sect._n 6._o cal._n inst._n l._n 4_o c._n 1._o etc._n etc._n sect._n 5._o sup._n c._n 1._o sect_n 1._o sect._n 6._o our_o ordination_n justify_v greg._n resp._n ad_fw-la int._n 8._o august_n continuation_n of_o the_o tuck_n histin_n the_o life_n of_o amurath_n 4._o no_o difference_n about_o sacrifice_n if_o right_o understand_v sect._n 7._o there_o be_v fundamental_n hebr._n 5.12_o and_o c._n 6.1_o etc._n etc._n how_o much_o be_v necessary_a to_o be_v believe_v to_o salvation_n ordinary_o all_o reveal_v truth_n not_o essentials_n ancient_a pope_n challenge_v not_o sovereignty_n jure_fw-la divino_fw-la of_o the_o church_n l._n 5._o a_o c._n 31._o ad_fw-la c._n 36._o l._n 2_o cont._n jovin_n sup._n c._n 5._o sect_n 1._o cent._n epist._n theol._n ep_n 74._o a_o moderate_a papacy_n may_v prove_v useful_a but_o dangerous_a mont._n orig._n eccles._n part_n post_fw-la p._n 185._o the_o conclusion_n epist._n 161._o vind._n ch_n 4._o pag._n 86._o ●●_o h_o 8._o c._n ●2_n 16_o r._n 2._o c._n 5._o malm._n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr g●st_n pont_n aug._n reg._n hone_v in_o h._n ●_o 20._o h._n 3._o c._n 9_o stat._n clarendo_fw-la stat._n carlile_n art_n cleri_fw-la 25_o ed._n 3._o 37_o ed._n 3._o ch●_n ●_z ●6_n rich._n 2._o c._n ●_o placit_fw-la a_o 1._o h._n 7._o placit_fw-la a_o 32._o &_o 34._o edv_n 1._o ch._n 7._o p._n 196._o ch._n ●_o l._n 2._o de_fw-fr ro●_n pont._n c._n 3●_n act._n 16._o britt_n hist_o l._n 11._o c._n 3._o pag._n 106_o dialog_n de_fw-fr eccles._n mcne_n distinct_a 3._o nilus_n de_fw-fr primatis_fw-la 1._o cor._n 3.12_o c._n 3._o sect._n 4._o sop._n cap._n 3._o sect._n 4._o eph._n 4.4_o eph._n 5._o ●_o bernard_n de_fw-fr consider_v l._n 4._o de_fw-fr council_n l._n 2_o c._n 17._o de_fw-fr council_n l._n 2._o c._n 13._o de_fw-fr roma_fw-it pont._n l._n 4._o c._n 22._o &_o 24_o judg._n 6._o bellarm●ce_n council_n l._n 1._o c._n 17._o pag._n 24●_n vind._n pag_n 101._o gers._fw-la p._n 4._o serm._n de_fw-fr pace_n &_o unit_fw-la cyril_n considerate_a ●●_o
be_v ashamed_a of_o what_o be_v evident_a truth_n we_o expect_v thanks_o for_o our_o moderation_n and_o behold_v revile_v for_o our_o good_a will_n he_o may_v have_v be_v please_v to_o remember_v what_o himself_o have_v cite_v so_o often_o out_o of_o my_o vindication_n that_o our_o church_n since_o the_o reformation_n be_v the_o same_o in_o substance_n that_o it_o be_v before_o if_o the_o same_o in_o substance_n than_o not_o substantial_o separate_v our_o comfort_n be_v that_o caleb_n and_o joshua_n alone_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o land_n of_o promise_n because_o they_o have_v be_v peacemaker_n in_o a_o seditious_a time_n and_o endeavour_v not_o to_o enlarge_v but_o to_o make_v up_o the_o breach_n he_o add_v that_o the_o chief_a protestant_n do_v confess_v that_o they_o be_v substantial_o separate_v from_o the_o roman_a church_n who_o these_o chief_a protestant_n be_v he_o tell_v we_o not_o nor_o what_o they_o say_v but_o refer_v we_o to_o another_o of_o his_o treatise_n which_o i_o neither_o know_v here_o how_o to_o compass_v nor_o if_o i_o can_v deem_v it_o worth_a the_o labour_n when_o these_o principal_a protestant_n come_v to_o be_v view_v thorough_o and_o serious_o with_o indifferent_a eye_n it_o will_v appear_v that_o either_o by_o substantial_o they_o mean_v real_o that_o be_v to_o say_v that_o the_o difference_n between_o we_o be_v not_o mere_a logomachy_n or_o contention_n about_o word_n and_o different_a form_n of_o expression_n only_o but_o that_o there_o be_v some_o real_a controversy_n between_o we_o both_o in_o credendis_fw-la and_o agendis_fw-la and_o more_o and_o more_o real_a in_o agendis_fw-la than_o in_o credendis_fw-la or_o second_o that_o by_o substance_n they_o understand_v not_o the_o old_a essential_o or_o article_n of_o christian_a religion_n wherein_o we_o both_o agree_v but_o the_o new_a essential_o or_o new_a article_n of_o faith_n late_o make_v by_o the_o romanist_n and_o comprehend_v in_o the_o creed_n of_o pius_n the_o four_o about_o which_o we_o do_v true_o differ_v so_o we_o differ_v substantial_o in_o the_o language_n of_o the_o present_a romanist_n but_o we_o differ_v not_o substantial_o in_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o primitive_a father_n the_o generation_n of_o these_o new_a article_n be_v the_o corruption_n of_o the_o old_a creed_n or_o last_o if_o one_o or_o two_o protestant_a author_n either_o breed_v up_o in_o hostility_n against_o new_a rome_n as_o hannibal_n be_v against_o old_a rome_n or_o in_o the_o heat_n of_o contention_n or_o without_o due_a consideration_n or_o out_o of_o prejudice_n or_o passion_n or_o a_o distemper_a zeal_n have_v overshoot_v themselves_o what_o be_v that_o to_o we_o or_o what_o do_v that_o concern_v the_o church_n of_o england_n he_o say_v st._n austin_n tell_v the_o donatist_n that_o though_o they_o be_v with_o he_o in_o many_o thing_n yet_o if_o they_o be_v not_o with_o he_o in_o few_o thing_n the_o many_o thing_n wherein_o they_o be_v with_o he_o will_v not_o profit_v they_o but_o what_o be_v these_o few_o thing_n wherein_o st._n austin_n require_v their_o communion_n be_v they_o abuse_n or_o innovation_n or_o new_a article_n of_o faith_n no_o no_o the_o truth_n be_v st._n austin_n profess_v to_o the_o donatist_n that_o many_o thing_n and_o great_a thing_n will_v profit_v they_o nothing_o not_o only_o if_o a_o few_o thing_n but_o if_o one_o thing_n be_v want_v videant_fw-la quam_fw-la multa_fw-la &_o quam_fw-la magna_fw-la nihil_fw-la prosint_fw-la 8._o si_fw-la unum_fw-la quidem_fw-la defu●rit_fw-la &_o videant_fw-la quid_fw-la sit_fw-la ipsum_fw-la unum_fw-la and_o let_v they_o see_v what_o this_o one_o thing_n be_v what_o be_v it_o charity_n for_o the_o donatist_n most_o uncharitable_o do_v limit_v the_o catholic_n church_n to_o their_o own_o party_n exclude_v all_o other_o from_o hope_n of_o salvation_n just_a as_o the_o romanist_n do_v now_o who_o be_v the_o right_a successor_n of_o the_o donatist_n in_o those_o few_o thing_n or_o rather_o in_o that_o one_o thing_n so_o often_o as_o he_o produce_v st._n austin_n against_o the_o donatist_n he_o bring_v a_o rod_n for_o himself_o furthermore_o he_o prove_v out_o of_o the_o creed_n and_o the_o father_n that_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n to_o what_o purpose_n i_o do_v not_o understand_v unless_o it_o be_v to_o reprove_v the_o unchristian_a and_o uncharitable_a censure_n of_o the_o roman_a court._n for_o neither_o be_v the_o roman_a church_n the_o catholic_n church_n nor_o a_o communion_n of_o saint_n a_o communion_n in_o error_n his_o six_o and_o last_o point_n which_o he_o propose_v to_o judicious_a protestant_n be_v this_o that_o though_o it_o be_v not_o evident_a that_o the_o protestant_a church_n be_v schismatical_a but_o only_o doubtful_a yet_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v not_o schismatical_a because_o as_o doctor_n sutcliff_n confess_v they_o never_o go_v out_o of_o any_o know_a christian_a society_n nor_o can_v any_o protestant_n prove_v that_o they_o do_v it_o be_v the_o most_o prudent_a way_n for_o a_o man_n to_o do_v for_o his_o soul_n as_o he_o will_v do_v for_o his_o land_n liberty_n honour_n or_o life_n that_o be_v to_o choose_v the_o safe_a way_n schism_n namely_o to_o live_v and_o die_v free_a from_o schism_n in_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n i_o answer_v first_o that_o he_o change_v the_o subject_n of_o the_o question_n my_o proposition_n be_v that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v free_a from_o schism_n he_o ever_o and_o anon_o enlarge_v it_o to_o all_o protestant_a church_n and_o what_o or_o how_o many_o church_n he_o intend_v under_o that_o name_n and_o notion_n i_o know_v not_o not_o that_o i_o censure_v any_o foreign_a church_n with_o who_o law_n and_o liberty_n i_o be_o not_o so_o well_o acquaint_v as_o with_o our_o own_o but_o because_o i_o conceive_v the_o case_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o be_v as_o clear_a as_o the_o sun_n at_o noonday_n and_o be_o not_o willing_a for_o the_o present_a to_o have_v it_o perplex_v with_o heterogeneous_a dispute_n so_o often_o as_o he_o stumble_v upon_o this_o mistake_n i_o must_v make_v bold_a to_o tell_v he_o that_o he_o conclude_v not_o the_o contradictory_n second_o i_o answer_v that_o he_o dispute_v ex_fw-la non_fw-la concessis_fw-la lay_v that_o for_o a_o foundation_n grant_v to_o he_o which_o be_v altogether_o deny_v he_o namely_o that_o it_o be_v a_o doubtful_a case_n whether_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v schismatical_a or_o not_o whereas_o no_o church_n under_o heaven_n be_v real_o more_o free_a from_o just_a suspicion_n of_o schism_n than_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o not_o censure_v nor_o exclude_v uncharitable_o from_o her_o communion_n any_o true_a church_n which_o retain_v the_o essential_o of_o christian_a religion_n three_o i_o answer_v that_o it_o be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v guiltless_a of_o schism_n that_o i_o wish_v it_o be_v not_o evident_a that_o the_o roman_a court_n be_v guilty_a of_o formal_a schism_n and_o all_o that_o adhere_v unto_o it_o and_o maintain_v its_o censure_n of_o material_a schism_n if_o it_o be_v schism_n to_o desert_n altogether_o the_o communion_n of_o any_o one_o true_a particular_a church_n what_o be_v it_o not_o only_o to_o desert_n but_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n by_o the_o ban_v of_o excommunication_n so_o many_o christian_a church_n over_o which_o they_o have_v no_o jurisdiction_n three_o time_n more_o numerous_a than_o themselves_o and_o notwithstanding_o some_o few_o perhaps_o improper_a expression_n of_o some_o of_o they_o as_o good_a or_o better_a christian_n and_o catholic_n as_o themselves_o who_o suffer_v daily_o and_o be_v ready_a to_o suffer_v to_o the_o last_o drop_n of_o their_o blood_n for_o the_o name_n of_o christ._n if_o contumacy_n against_o one_o lawful_a single_a superior_a be_v schismatical_a what_o be_v rebellion_n against_o the_o sovereign_a ecclesiastical_a tribunal_n that_o be_v a_o general_a council_n but_o i_o be_o far_o from_o conclude_v all_o indistinct_o i_o know_v there_o be_v many_o in_o that_o church_n who_o continue_v firm_a in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o counsel_n of_o constance_n and_o basile_n attribute_v no_o more_o to_o the_o pope_n then_o his_o principium_fw-la unitatis_fw-la and_o subject_v both_o he_o and_o his_o court_n to_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o a_o ecumenical_a council_n four_o i_o answer_v that_o suppose_n but_o not_o grant_v that_o it_o be_v doubtful_a whether_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v schismatical_a or_o not_o and_o suppose_v in_o like_a manner_n that_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o schismatical_a yet_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o a_o son_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o quit_v his_o spiritual_a mother_n may_v a_o man_n renounce_v his_o due_a obedience_n to_o a_o lawful_a superior_a
belief_n of_o some_o great_a achievement_n which_o he_o have_v make_v elsewhere_o or_o to_o excuse_v his_o present_a defect_n upon_o pretence_n of_o large_a supply_n and_o recruit_n which_o he_o have_v ready_a in_o another_o place_n but_o where_o the_o reader_n can_v come_v to_o see_v they_o and_o what_o if_o the_o reader_n have_v they_o not_o to_o see_v as_o it_o be_v my_o condition_n in_o present_a what_o be_o i_o or_o he_o the_o worse_a if_o he_o see_v no_o more_o in_o some_o of_o they_o than_o i_o have_v see_v heretofore_o he_o will_v see_v a_o great_a many_o of_o mistated_a and_o mistake_v question_n a_o great_a many_o of_o logomachy_n or_o contention_n about_o word_n a_o great_a many_o of_o private_a error_n produce_v as_o common_a principle_n of_o protestant_n a_o great_a many_o of_o author_n cite_v contrary_a to_o their_o genuine_a sense_n and_o meaning_n and_o very_o little_a that_o be_v material_a towards_o the_o discussion_n of_o this_o or_o any_o other_o question_n 132._o just_o as_o master_n chillingworth_n be_v cite_v here_o to_o prove_v that_o protestant_n have_v separate_v themselves_o in_o communion_n of_o sacrament_n and_o public_a service_n of_o god_n not_o only_o from_o the_o roman_a church_n but_o also_o from_o all_o other_o christian_a church_n in_o the_o world_n which_o be_v not_o only_o contrary_a to_o his_o sense_n but_o also_o contrary_a to_o his_o very_a word_n in_o the_o place_n allege_v it_o be_v not_o all_o one_o say_v he_o though_o you_o perpetual_o confound_v they_o to_o forsake_v the_o error_n of_o the_o church_n and_o to_o forsake_v the_o church_n or_o to_o forsake_v the_o church_n in_o her_o error_n and_o simple_o to_o forsake_v the_o church_n etc._n etc._n the_o former_a then_o be_v do_v by_o protestant_n the_o late_a be_v not_o do_v nay_o not_o only_o not_o from_o the_o catholic_n church_n but_o not_o so_o much_o as_o from_o the_o roman_a do_v they_o separate_v per_fw-la omne_fw-la but_o only_o in_o those_o practice_n which_o 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