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18._o it_o may_v be_v he_o will_v deny_v my_o distinction_n of_o the_o act_n of_o faith_n to_o establish_v his_o own_o employ_v gag_n pag._n 163._o which_o be_v on_o this_o wise_a faith_n be_v either_o in_o the_o end_n or_o the_o act_n but_o this_o distinction_n i_o fear_v not_o because_o end_n and_o act_n be_v not_o part_n of_o faith_n neither_o as_o special_o to_o the_o general_a nor_o as_o constitutive_a part_n make_v a_o constitute_v whole_a beside_o what_o he_o say_v of_o the_o end_n of_o faith_n be_v a_o riddle_n which_o i_o doubt_v himself_o understand_v not_o thus_o far_o have_v i_o answer_v to_o the_o consequent_a or_o position_n as_o it_o lie_v i_o will_v now_o put_v the_o disputation_n into_o due_a form_n and_o answer_v thereunto_o thus_o than_o it_o lie_v if_o you_o say_v peter_n lose_v not_o his_o habit_n of_o grace_n than_o you_o subscribe_v to_o bellarmine_n and_o the_o gagger_n who_o say_v that_o peter_n lose_v not_o his_o faith_n but_o you_o will_v not_o subscribe_v 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shed_v upon_o the_o cross_n this_o answer_n of_o bishop_n jewel_n be_v full_a to_o the_o purpose_n and_o of_o no_o less_o authority_n than_o the_o catechism_n allege_v which_o be_v take_v in_o this_o sense_n we_o may_v safe_o conclude_v that_o our_o church_n be_v no_o friend_n to_o the_o real_a presence_n in_o those_o word_n of_o the_o catechism_n a_o three_o thing_n also_o be_v in_o his_o appeal_v pag._n 291._o thus_o set_v down_o both_o we_o and_o the_o papist_n confess_v this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o that_o be_v enough_o and_o contend_v mere_o about_o the_o manner_n how_o it_o be_v my_o body_n that_o be_v how_o the_o sacrament_n be_v make_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n gag_n page_n 256._o the_o council_n of_o lateran_n decree_v transubstantiation_n and_o we_o deny_v the_o same_o gag_n page_n 252._o which_o sentence_n by_o the_o course_n of_o the_o place_n where_o it_o be_v must_v be_v apply_v to_o the_o present_a purpose_n in_o this_o form_n they_o that_o agree_v in_o this_o 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