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A04540 A Christian plea conteyning three treatises. I. The first, touching the Anabaptists, & others mainteyning some like errours with them. II. The second, touching such Christians, as now are here, commonly called Remonstrants or Arminians. III. The third, touching the Reformed Churches, with vvhom my self agree in the faith of the Gospel of our Lord Iesus Christ. Made by Francis Iohnson, pastour of the auncient English Church, now sojourning at Amsterdam in the Low Countreyes. Johnson, Francis, 1562-1618. 1617 (1617) STC 14661; ESTC S107828 395,581 331

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through Iudea Samaria so to the uttermost parts of the earth Matth. 28 18.19 Mar. 16 15. vvith Luke 24.46 47 48. Act. 1 8. and 2 4 5. c. Novv for the Ievves although they vvere alreadie the church and people of God under his covenant yet vvere they to haue knovvledge giuen them that the Christ vvas novv come vvhom they expected according to the promise of God concerning him and that Iesus vvas he vvho vvas put to death among them and risen againe from the dead Which the Apostles therefore taught and witnessed unto them calling them to repentance and faith in his name for remission of sinnes according as Christ had appointed them to doe Luke 24 46 47 48. with Act. 2 5 38. c. and then withall instructing and exhorting them to be baptized in his name alledged this ground and reason thereof because the promise was to them and to their children Act. 2 39. making expresse mention of children and so shewing how they understood the aforesaid commission of Christ to imply the children together with the Parents themselues Which is directly against the Anabaptists And as for the Gentiles they being aliens from the common wealth of Israell straungers from the covenant and promise of God they were also to be taught the Gospell because in the calling of such God alwaies beginneth with those that are of yeeres and will haue faith and obedience to be required of them afore they be baptized Ephes 2 11 22. with Act. 16 31 32 33. Which therefore the Apostles accordingly observed But then also when such were brought to the faith of Christ they did together with them baptise their households as hath ben shewed before Which is likewise directly against the Anabaptists Pag. 2. The same course we acknowledge is still to be observed when we haue to deale with like persons in such cases For example in dealing with anie Pagans Turkes or other the like that beleeue not in Christ we should first preach the Gospel unto them to bring them to the faith and then when any of them beleeue become disciples of Christ we should baptize them their households as the Apostles did Thus if the Anabaptists would but consider the times persons and cases as they ought they might soone see their errour learne to put difference otherwise then they doe between the unbeleeving Gentiles the children of beleeving Christians between the baptized unbaptized whether Iewes or Gentiles old and young Which whiles they doe not they understand things generally which are spoken respctiuely and so misapply the Scriptures which being rightly understood overthrow those verie things for which they alledge them as in the case and Scriptures aforesaid may be seen Yea and that which is worst of al if the poynt in hand be well mynded they bring in another Gospell which the Scripture ●ever taught or in deed pervert and diminish if not deny the Gospell which the Scripture preached to Abraham and the Apostles to the nations over the world whiles they deny the covenant of Gods grace or Baptisme the seale thereof to apperteyne to the children of the faithfull as by that which hath ben said hereabout may sufficiently appeare OBJECTION IIII. But it is not right to reason thus from Abraham or from circumcision seeing that circumcision was giuen to Abrahams carnal seed for a carnal seale of a carnall covenant and temporarie promise touching the land of Canaan whereas Baptisme apperteyneth to the spirituall seed of Abraham and hath heauenly promises of salvation and eternall life by Iesus Christ ANSWER 1. Abraham in deed had a carnall seed and temporarie promises but not such onely For he had also a spirituall seed and spirituall promises whereof circumcision was the seale As the Lord himself shewed at the first institution thereof when he stablished his everlasting covenant with Abraham and his seed to be his God and the God of his seed after him Gen. 17 7 10. Now God is our God onely in Christ in whom the covenant was established by his blood and confirmed with the seale of circumcision As the Apostle plainely teacheth Gal. 3 17. and Hebr. 13 20. and thereupon calleth the signe of circumcision a seale not of an earthly or temporarie promise but of the righteousnes of faith which is heauenly and spirituall Rom. 4 11. with Gen. 12 3. and 15 5 6 and 17 7 13. 22 18. Gal. 3 19 29. 2. If they meane by a carnall seale an outward visible seale so also is Baptisme but will they therefore call it a carnall seale If they meane that it vvas visible in the flesh there was a speciall reason thereof besides that vve also haue washing with water or sprinkling of water upon the flesh for it was to be with blood and to lead them to Christ who should come of Abrahams seed according to the flesh Gen. 12 3. and 17 11. and 22 18. and Exod. 4 26. with Heb. 2 14 15 16. Yet doth not this hinder us to reason from circumcision to Baptisme as the Apostle sheweth who so reasoneth himself Col. 2 10 11 12. and as we doe also after the Apostles example from the Passeover and other sacrifices to the Lords supper 1 Cor. 5 6 7 8. and 10 16 17 18. 3. And where they call it a carnall covenant which circumcision sealed what a straunge maner of speach and opinion is this The promise of Canaan whereunto they would restreyne it was in deed annexed with the everlasting covenant which God made with Abraham in Christ for eternall blessednes and salvation in him But Canaan it self was a type of the heauenly inheritance and of the kingdome of God in Iesus Christ Which also euen that joyning of them together may imply Gen. 17 7 8. with 22 18. and Gal. 3 15 29. Besides that now with us also godlynes hath the promise of the life that now is of that which is to come 1 Tim. 4 8. Shall we therefore call this a carnall promise Doth not God himself who made the covenant with Abraham call it his everlasting covenant Genes 17 7. and the Apostle likewise Heb. 13 20. And shal we then cal or count it a carnall covenant Was not the promise this that in Abrahams seed all families of the earth should be blessed Gen. 12 3. and 22 18. with Act. 3 25. and Gal. 3 8. And that the Lord would be a God to Abraham and to his seed after him Gen. 17 7 8. And was this then a carnal covenant Yea was was not the covenant confirmed in Christ and that also 430 yeeres before the Law was giuen Gal. 3 17. Or was it not confirmed to Abraham by the signe of circumcision as a seale annexed to the promise of God Gen. 17 chap. with Act. 7 8. Which the Apostle calleth the seale of the righteousnes of faith Rom. 4 11. And was this then a carnall seale of a carnall covenant How directly contrary are such sayings
opinions to the word of God 4. If Circumcision was the seale onely of the temporarie covenant of the land of Canaan what then did it profit Abraham himself in this behalf to whom God gaue no inheritance in it no not so much as the bredth of a foot Act. 7 5. But Abraham by faith sojourned in the land of promise as in a straunge countrey dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob the heires with him of the same promise For he euen as we looked for a city which hath foundations whose builder and maker is God And they desired a better countrey that is an heauenly Wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God Heb. 11 9.10 16. From which very speach that God is the God of Abraham Isaak and Jacob Exod. 3 6 15 16. Christ proveth the resurrection from the dead Matth. 22 31 32. Luk. 20 37 38. Which also sheweth the covenant made with Abraham to be a spirituall and everlasting covenant 5. If Circumcision was the seale to Abrahams carnall seed touching the land of Canaan why then did not circumcision cease when they enjoyed and possessed the land For Sacraments cease when the promises are fulfilled whereof they are signes and seales as the verie termes of a signe and seale may imply And thereupon it is that we shall haue no need or use of prophecies Sacraments or other like things in the kingdome of heauen after this life as now we haue in this life here on earth 1 Cor. 13 8 12. with chap. 11 23 26. 6. If Circumcision was a seale to Abraham and his carnall seed onely of a carnall covenant or temporarie promise touching the land of Canaan why then did God appoint the proselytes of the Gentiles that came to the Passeover and their children to be circumcised seeing they were not of Abrahams carnall seed nor had the promise of the land of Canaan Exod. 12 48 49. But in deed circumcision sealed to them the same righteousnes of faith and so the spirituall covenant of God in Christ as it did to Abraham and the Iewes that were his carnall seed Rom. 4 11. with Gen. 12 3. and 15 5 6. and 17 7 13. with Exod. 12 48 49. 7. And whereas † Mr. Sm. repl to M. Clift Arg. 2. some say that circumcision was also a seale of obedience to the law of Moses how can this be when as it was appointed to Abraham four hundred and thirty yeeres afore the Law was giuen Gal. 3 17. with ●en 12 3. and 17 chap. And Moses himself vvas not borne till divers gene●●tions after Abraham Gen. 21 2 3. and 25 19 26. and 29 21 34. with Exod. 6 16 20. True it is that as Circumcision vvas also one of the ceremonies being repeated and required in Moses Lavv Lev. 12 3. so they that vvere circumcised after the Lavv vvas giuen became debters to doe the vvhole lavv Gal. 5 3. But as it vvas of the Fathers and not of Moses being before appointed to Abraham to vvhom the Gospell vvas preached and the covenant confirmed four hundred and thirtie yeres before the Lavv Gen. 17 7 13. Joh. 7 22. Gal. 3 8 17. so it vvas a seale of the righteousnes of faith of the remission of sinnes in Christ Rom. 4 1 11. Also vve that are novv baptised are bound to obserue all things vvhatsoever Christ hath commaunded Matt. 28 18 19 20. Yet notvvithstanding baptisme to us is the seale not of our obedience no nor of our faith but of the righteousnes of faith and of the Lords forgiving our sinnes in Iesus Christ Rom. 4 1 11 25. and 6 3. with Act. 2 38 39. and 22 16. For the seale of God in circumcision and Baptisme confirmeth a perfit sure and firme covenant euen the Lords everlasting covenant of grace Gen. 17 7 13. Deu. 32 4. Psal 111 9 145 17. Rom. 11 29. Rev. 14 6. Heb. 13 20 with Act. 2 38 39. and 3 25. vvhereas our faith and observation of the Lords commandements like as theirs in Israell is infirme unperfit Matt. 6 30. and 8 26. Mar. 9 24. Luke 17 5. Rom. 7 12 25. Jam. 3 2. 1 Joh. 1 8 9 10. And it is our comfort in tentations that although vve are vveak sinful yet the Lords covenant of grace confirmed unto us in baptisme as it vvas to them in circumcision is firme and holy euen an everlasting covenant established by the death and blood shedding of Iesus Christ vvho of God is made unto us vvisedome and righteousnes sanctification and redemption that according as it is vvritten He that glorieth let him glorie in the Lord. 1 Cor. 1 30 31. and Jer. 9 23. with Hebr. 13 20. 8. Moreover to be of the carnall seed of Abraham vvhich is so much objected did not hinder the Ievves but that they might also be his spirituall seed in Christ And so they are acknovvledged by the Apostles vvho call them the children of the promise of the covenant which God made with the fathers saying to Abraham In thy seed shall al kinreds of the earth be blessed Act. 2 39. and 3 25. Gal. 3 15 29. Rom. 11 16. c. 9. Finally their outvvard circumcision signified and taught them the invvard and spirituall circumcision of the heart by the spirit of God in Christ like as our outvvard baptisme shevveth and teacheth us the very same thing which is wrought by the sanctification of the spirit and by the cleansing of us from our sinnes in the blood of Iesus Christ Col. 2 11 12. Deut. 10 16. and 30.6 with Act. 15 10 11. and Rom. 6 3 6. 1 Cor. 6 11. Tit. 3 4 7. 1 Pet. 3 21. OBJECTION V. But there is great difference betweene the Iewes and us between their estate before Christ being then as in the infancie and ours since Christ being growne in yeeres between their administration and ours and particularly between their circumcision and our baptisme for circumcision was for the males onely and to be done the eight day whereas baptisme is both for male and female to be done at any time c and the ceremonies had in Israell are now abolished c ANSWER 1. The objection is not of waight though it be common to others with the Anabaptists in other cases who in this matter see the vanitie of it themselues For first as I noted before we speak onely of such things as are morall in their owne nature or agree in a generall and perpetuall equity and in their like common propertie end and benefit and so farre forth are perpetual how ever there be differences othervvise about some outvvard circumstances accidents other like things according to the divers dispensation of the Old and New Testament As may be observed in the Apostles writings in the reasons and allegations made therein which are taken not onely from the * Of vvhich see before pag. 5. moral law but euen from the shadowes and ceremonies of Moses
25 26. and 12 43 ●● 48. V. And if any that reteyne an Idoll baptisme lying signe and fiction and haue not the Lords signe of the vvashing away of their sinnes in the blood of Christ will so presume to come to the Table of the Lord they doe highly prophane it and eat judgment unto themselues 2 Cor. 6 14 1● 16. with 1 Cor. 11 27 28 29. and Mal. 1 7. 2 King 23 21. with ver 4 c. E●● 16 19 20 21. Esa 44 20. Zach. 10 2. VI. Yea seing Baptisme is the badge of Christianitie will it not also follovv hereupon that such persons as haue no other outward baptisme but an Idoll baptisme and lying signe and fiction stand outwardly in this behalf Idol and false Christians and the Ministers among them Idoll false Ministers profaning the holy things which they minister And that therefore the persons and ministers vvhich so speak and write against the baptisme of the Churches aforesaid and yet haue no other outvvard baptisme but what they received there are accordingly to be esteemed themselues untill they revoke their ungodly errours And moreover 〈◊〉 none vvho haue but an Idol baptisme and lying signe themselues 〈◊〉 such estate minister baptisme or the Lords supper to others and be accepted or reteyned for the ministers of Christ without great sinne and Impietie 2 Cor. 6 14 15 16. with 2 Chron. 29 and 30 chap. Ezra 2 61 62 〈◊〉 and 6 19 20 21. Jer. 10 8. Psal 115 4 8. 1 Cor. 10 7 14. Ioh. 5 21. Rev. 21 8. and ●2 15. Zach. 10 2. and 11 17. Ezech. 44 6 7 8 9. VII Neyther can it be thought that repentance vvhich still they speak of should ever make a lye to be a trueth an Idoll to be Gods ordinance a lying and cursed signe to be a true and blessed sacrament For ●●●●gh repentance fyndeth mercy vvith God for a lye yet a lye is a lye 〈◊〉 and an Idoll vanitie Zach. 10 2. Ier. 10 8. Ioh. 8 44. and 14 6. and 17. 〈◊〉 with 2 Cor. 6 14 15 16. VIII Nor doe they indeed repent who still reteyne such baptisme 〈◊〉 themselues think to be an Idoll and lying signe and fiction For true repentance and our duty to God leadeth and byndeth us to cast avvay all Idols and lying signes and fictions farre from us Hos 14 8. Ezeck 2● Esa 30 22. 44 20. 1 Cor. 10 14. 1 Joh. 5 21. with Rev. 2 20 21 22. and 9 20. 14 9 12. And this also as I noted before is religiously to be done afo●● ever we offer to come to the Lords supper as they in Israell careful purged the Temple that had ben defiled and brake dovvne the Idols at idolatrous monuments afore they would celebrate the Passeover 2 Chr 29 and 30 chap. 2 King 23 3 23. with 2 Chron. 34 and 35 chap. IX Whereas therefore they say * Animad p. 70. We haue gotten the Lords Baptisme comming to the Lord in true faith and repentance vvho baptizeth us vvith the h●● Ghost and vvith fire As for the outvvard vvashing vvhich vve had it need not be●● peated c. And afterward say † pag. 72. We haue renounced that Romish Baptisme as● impure idoll in their abuse c. they doe but shift and contradict themselue● and deceiue others and still runne into errors one after another mo●● and more For 1. speaking of the Lords baptisme they speake of that vvhich invvard vvhereas our question is of that which is outvvard 2. They speake of abuses in the ministration and opinions of the Min●sters thereof wheras our question is of the thing it self not of the abus● 3. Their assertion implyeth that they had not the Lords baptisme till t●● gotte it themselues by comming to the Lord in true faith and repentance Which plaine Anabaptistrie and covert Popery and Arminianisme Where●● they debase Gods grace and exalt mans works For when they say th● haue gotten the Lords baptisme by true faith and repentance it must be understoo● eyther of the inward or outward Baptisme If of the inward besides th● it toucheth not the question as is aforesaid it implyeth Popery if of t●● outvvard it conteyneth Anabaptistry 4. And that moreover so as if they had dyed themselues in their i●fancie they had not then had the Lords baptisme nor had ben baptiz● vvith the Holy Ghost And as not themselues so neyther any other i●fants there baptized 5. No nor when they were come to yeres if they had dyed afore the had left to be members of the church of Rome and England For som● of them left the one some the other and all of them haue left both A●● holding them † Animad p. 68.70 72. 75. 82. 93. 96. ●ustis pag. 121 278 463. not to be under the covenant of God nor to haue t●● Lords baptisme for a signe unto them of his covenant and a seale of t●● righteousnes of faith in Iesus Christ but that he hath broken the cov●nant euen on his part also and hath giuen them a bill of divorce p●●● them avvay c. it vvill follow that they suppose they did then come the Lord in true faith and repentance and as some of them speak it did the enter into the covenant of God vvhen they left that estate and came to th● cause vvhich now they professe And so either they haue no outward b●ptisme at all according to their ovvne opinion confirming the covena●● of God and the righteousnes of faith unto them in Christ or els the● had it before they came under the Lords covenant and in a Church ●●●●ced from the Lord. Let them chuse which they vvill and shew hovv ●●r ovvne estate can be warranted by the vvord of God and how their ●●nions and courses agree with the doctrine of the Scriptures concer●●●g the covenant of God and the eternity thereof the sacrament of baptisme and the ministration thereof the mediation of Christ and the ●●nt thereof both for confirmation of the covenant and comfort of the Sacraments vvhich are giuen and continued by the Lord as signes and ●●●des of his covenant and mercy in Iesus Christ 6. And furthermore by their assertions it vvill follow that they which are baptized in those churches and dye in that estate they haue not the Lords baptisme being not come to the Lord in true faith repentance and withall dye out of the covenant of the Lord and so out of the estate of salvation in Churches divorced frō the Lord which haue not baptisme for a signe of Gods covenant unto them and a seale of the righteousnes of faith in Iesus Christ Novv into what a vvofull estate by this meanes they bring all that are baptized in those Churches and so dye not seeing and leaving the corruptions thereof and what grounds besides they lay of Anabaptistrie herein let such as are vvise obserue and let themselues better consider vvith themselues hereafter as carefully renounce their vvicked opinions
recording their acts to haue made ●●ception of children expressely and not to haue used such speaches and termes as in other places of the Scripture are used to include and imply children therein as vve haue shevved here before So as euen hereby we may therefore learne Pag. 2. and 4. and be more assured that in the ministration of baptisme the Apostles still reteyned like practise as had ben bsed before in circumcising of children when the fathers of families beleeved had received circumcision themselues Gen. 17 chap. and 21 4. Exod. 12 48 49. OBJECTION III. But Christ commaunded the Apostles first to teach and then to baptize Matth. 28 18 19. And so the Apostles practised Act. 2 14 41. and 8 35 38. and 10 34 48. and 16.14 15 31 32 33 34. and 18 4 8. ANSWER 1. The Word of God is not the bare letter or outward syllables but the intendement and meaning of the holy Ghost by whom it was giuen Which should carefully be observed by the due consideration of the Scriptures vvith the circumstances thereof and by the conference of other places of Scripture and the proportion of fayth layd together Which vvhiles the Anabaptists neglect they look on the Scripture partially and presse the letter extreamely vvithout consideration of the true right meaning thereof neyther observing the time persons of vvhom the Scripture speaketh nor conferring the Scriptures of the old and new Testament together nor regarding the analogie and proportion of fayth as they should Much like as the Papists deale vvhen they presse the letter in other vvords of Christ vvhere it is said This is my bodie Matth. 26 26. others also in those vvords Tell the Church c. Matth. 18 17. So in much like manner doe the Anabaptists in these Teach all nations and baptize them c. Matth. 28 19. Where the Scripture it self being duely weighed and compared together vvith other places according to the proportion of faith it vvill be found necessarily to imply the baptizing of children so to be directly against themselues The vvord here used signifieth to make scholers or disciples and consequently to teach as may be seen in Mat. 27 57. Act. 14 21. Matt. 13 52. Now the thing to be taught the nations that they might become disciples of Christ vvas the Gospell as Mark sheweth vvhen he relateth the same commission saying Goe into all the world preach the Gospell to every creature Mark 16 15. And vvhat Gospell Euen that vvhich vvas preached before unto Abraham As the Apostle teacheth expressely vvhen he sayth that the Scripture foreseeing that God would justifie the heathen through faith preached before the Gospell unto Abraham saying In thee shall all nations be blessed Gal. 3 8. Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made He saith not And to seeds as of many but as of one And to thy seed which is Christ ver 16. And vvhosoever are Christs they are also Abrahams seed and heires according to the promise ver 29. For if the inheritance be of the law it is no more of promise but God gaue it to Abraham by promise ver 18. Which Gospell and promise giuen unto Abraham the Apostles were by Christ appointed to teach and make knovvne in the world that the Gentiles should 〈◊〉 fellow heires with the Iewes and of the same bodie and joynt partakers of Gods ●●omise in Christ by the Gospell Ephes 3 6. with Gen. 12 3. and 17 7. and 22 18. ●●om vvhich Scriptures compared together and understood according to the proportion of faith we learne that the Gospell preached and promise made unto Abraham comprehendeth all that are Christs Psal 47 3 4 8 9. Zac. 2 11. vvhether Iewes or Gentiles and that the Gentiles being by the Gospel made fellovv-heires and of the same body vvith the Ievves and joynt-partakers of Gods promise in Christ it must therefore needes follovve hereupon that their children asvvel as the children of the Ievves are together with their Parents under the covenant of grace and to be made partakers of the seale thereof vvith them Which things the Apostles knovving vvell did therefore accordingly understand the commission of Christ thereupon also publishing the Gospel abroad in the vvorld baptized not onely the Fathers of families but those also that vvere theirs as the Scriptures before alledged doe manifest 2. Neyther in deed could the Apostles any othervvise understand nor might they any othervvise practise the commission aforesaid seeing by this meanes the Gentiles should become the Lords people as the Ievves vvere and the Christian church novv succeeded into the place of the church of Israel under one and the same Lord having one and the same covenant in Christ vvith like benefit and mysterie of the Sacraments unto them both as the Prophets had foretold Esa 49 5 22. and 60 chap. and 66 18 23. Hos 1 10. and 2 23. Amos 9 11 12. Micah 4 1 2. Zach. 2 11. 13 1. with Act. 13 46 47. and 15 14 18. Rom. 9 24 25 26. 1 Cor. 5 7. and 10 1 4. 12 12 13. Ephes 2 11 22. and 3 6. and 4 4 5 6. Phil. 3 3. In so much that the Apostle Paul expressely saith the Israelites of old vvere baptised 1 Cor. 10.2 and the Christians novv are circumcised Col 2 11. though not according to the outvvard ceremonie yet according to the spirituall intendement and mysterie thereof And moreover that the aforesaid promise of the Gospell made unto Abraham includeth the kinreds and families of the earth among the Gentiles vvhich all the vvorld knovves haue children in them as vvell as the families of the Ievves According as the Apostle Peter speaking to the Ievves alledgeth it vvhen he saith Ye are the children of the Prophets and of the covenant which God made vvith our fathers saying unto Abraham And in thy seed shall all the kinreds or families of the earth be blessed Act. 3 25. vvith Gen. 12 3. and 22 18. Where marke that he useth the vvord kinreds or fathers-families so to speake according as the vvord in the originall is derived as it vvere of purpose to imply herein the kinreds of the Gentiles the families and children together vvith their fathers According as the Apostles also observed in their practise baptizing the families together vvith the fathers thereof as appeareth in the Scriptures aforesaid Cleane contrarie to the opinion practise of the Anabaptists vvho haue no regard of the kinreds or families in this behalf but onely of that vvhich such as are of yeres being taught professe for them selues from time to time 3. Neyther doe they as they should consider the time and persons spoken of in the Scriptures alledged by themselues The time was at the first publishing of the Gospell abroad among all nations manifesting that Iesus vvas the Christ novv come in the flesh The persons vvere both Ievves and Gentiles of all the nations of the vvorld beginning at Ierusalem and going
clause vvhich he savv I mentioned about Antichrist that he takes not away wholly the church of God c. Is it because he can fynd no answer and yet vvill not yeeld to the trueth and therefore rather then he vvill not oppose useth these shifts and slye conveyances thinking that his followers vvil not obserue these sleights of his Hovv ever it be let the reader obserue that himself seeth the heathens haue not the church of God as the church of Rome vvhere Antichrist sitteth hath and that therefore fetching his answer from the heathens he doth vvholly leaue out this clause of the Church of God which they haue not among them in their estate and so in deed giues us the cause whiles he would seem to oppugne it And whereas he saith the Divel hath not taken avvay vvholly every trueth ordinance of God among the heathens it is nothing to the purpose seing they are not the church and people of God under his covenant neyther doe so enjoy any of them Take an instance in one of the particulars which he mentioned before where he said that the heathens reteyne baptismes or washings among them yet vvhen any of them leaue that estate and come to the faith and church of Christ they are to be baptized into the Lords name and to receiue the seale of his covenant giuen to his church vvhich they had not before But so may not be done vvith those that haue received baptisme in the church of Rome or any other apostate churches when they leaue such estate because they are already baptized into the name of Christ and haue in those Churches received the seale of Gods covenant which the heathens haue not As I haue shewed ‘ Pag. 27 c. here before more particularly And this is alwaies a sure ground and firme rule to be observed The Lord shevveth his vvord unto Jacob his statutes and his judgements unto Israel He hath not dealt so vvith any nation and as for his judgements they haue not knovven them Psal 147 19 20. That which he saith he noted here before is ” Pag. 94 c. before ansvvered vvhither I refer the Reader And vvhere he saith next that the Divel and Antichrist so much as in them lay and as stood vvith the safetie of their deceitfull kingdome haue sought wholly to take avvay the church and trueth of God and to put lyes in the place this is against him self both implying that it vvas not vvholly done which is the thing that vve say and he oppugneth and manifestly shevving that Gods goodnes and power superabounded aboue all the malice and iniquitie of the Divell and Antichrist vvhich therefore vve should all obserue vvith thankfulnes to God not obscure or oppugne as the Anabaptists this man doth what they can Besides that Gods goodnes and power did yet more appeare in nourishing the vvoman his church in the vvildernes from the presence of the serpent Rev. 12 14. Like as before the Lord measured the Temple and Altar and vvorshippers therein vvhich were most inward and secret to himself vvhenas he gaue the Court of the Temple resembling the outward visible estate of the church into the hands of the Gentiles the Antichristian apostates and persecuters and the holy City to be troden upon by them which Court City notwithstanding vvere stil the Lords though thus exposed dealt vvith for the time appointed Whereabout I haue noted some fevv things ‘ Pag. 128 129 130 c. here before which the Reader may make use off concerning this matter Other things that might be observed thereabout I doe not now enter into or insist upon For the last thing which he alledgeth out of that which I vvrote heretofore euen in it also there is sufficient for confirmation of this matter against himself for us inasmuch as the apostasie of Antichrist the man of sinne ‡ Answ to M. Ja. p. 137. could not justly be accounted a mysterie of iniquitie and truely said to speak lyes in hypocrisy also privily to bring in damnable heresies and to haue a shew of godlynes if they did absolutely and vvholy depart from the faith and not onely from some points thereof c. And hitherto of the understanding of the Apostles vvords where he speaketh of Antichrists sitting in the Temple of God 2 Thes 2 4. and of the tvvo inferences thereupon against the Papists Anabaptists c. In all which this man opposeth what he can thus chusing rather to strengthen such in their errors then he vvill seem to haue erred himself or cease to oppose us thereabout Of Gods people in Babylon spoken off Rev. 18 4. Next I observed ‘ Advert pag. 59. here againe as I had done before concerning the baptisme had in the church of Rome that which is said Rev. 18 4. Goe out of her my people and partake not in her sinnes c. Whereupon I inferred that those words my people imply the covenant of God continued among them For thus is the covenant taught and set down unto us in the Scripture I will be your God and you shall be my people c. This also he setteth to oppose in words but confirmeth it in deed though against his will For vvhat doth he ansvver ” Animad p. 80. These very words saith he are taken from Ier. 51 45. My people goe out of the midst of her where by my people the church of Babylon is not meant but the Israelites c. Very vvell But are not those words My people the words of the covenant as I said And vvere not that people now in Babylon the church people of God under his covenant Had not that people also polluted the Temple of the Lord and fallen into notorious idolatrie apostasie and other iniquitie for vvhich they vvere giuen by the Lord into the hands of the Babylonians and vvere they not still the Lords church people his vineyard and heritage notvvithstanding 2 Chron. 36 14 20. with Jer. 12 7 10. and 20 4. Lamen 1 3 8 10 14 15. c. Esa 63 10 17 18 19. Is there not difference moreover to be put betweene the people of God in Babylon and between Babylon it self How els vvill he make this speach and case in the Revelation to accord with that other spoken of by the Prophet from vvhence himself saith these very words are taken if that there be not novv as there vvas of old in Babylon of Chaldea the people of God under his covenant continued among them in the mysticall Babylon of the Beast whether it be applyed to the city of Rome the throne of Antichrist and jurisdiction thereof or to the apostasie of the church of Rome vvherein the man of sinne sitteth and dominereth Whereabout see more ‘ Pag. 152 153 154 c. here before And to make this matter yet more plain obserue moreover in the Prophet Zacharie how afterward he speaking of the same matter and same
harlot the great who●e the mother of the whoredomes and abominations of the earth beleeving and speaking lyes in hypocrisie giving heed to seducing spirits and having pleasure in unrighteousnes c. Rev. 17. 1 5. 1 Tim. 4 1 2 3. 2 Thes 2 3 10 11 12. And that thus there being in divers respects a double consideration had of the Church of Rome novv as of Israell heretofore it will appeare how in one respect it may be said there is the church of God or a true church there and in another respect there is an apostate or a false church there as it is said of the same woman that she is dead and aliue in divers respects 1 Tim. 5 6. * These also he mentioneth not And of the Iewes that they ar enemies in one respect yet beloved in another Rom. 11 28. So Iohn Baptist is Elias is not Elias in divers respects Ioh. 1 21. with Matt. 11 7 14. 17 10 13. Iudas is an apostle yet a divel Mat. 10 2 4. with Ioh. 6 70. The Iewes are the children of Abraham yet the children of the divel Ioh. 8 33 34. As the Prophets also called the Iewes the seed of the wicked the seed of the adulterer a false seed in one respect when in other respects they acknowledge them to be the seed of Abraham Iacob Israel so a true seed people of the Lord. Esa 1 4. 5● 3 4. with 41 8. 45 19. 58 1. Hos 2 1 2. 4 15. Esa 63 16 17. 64 9. Ier. 31 36 37. Hos 4 6 12. 5 4. 14 2 3 4. And endles it were to recount the many speaches several considerations of things thus spoken off in the Scriptures Christ is without Father and without mother Heb. 7 3. and yet he hath Father and mother Luk. 2 48 49. Ioh. 1 18. and 2 3. Christ was put to death in the flesh but quickned in the spirit 1 Pet. 3 18. Abraham is unrighteous in him self but righteous by faith Rom. 4.3.5 The Apostle Paul and all the regenerate serue the law of God and the law of sinne the one with the mynd the other with the flesh Rom. 7.25 Peter is a disciple and an Apostle yet in other respect is by Christ called Satan Mat. 10 2. and 16 23. A leprous Iew is a true man and an Israelite but a corrupt diseased man to be put and kept out of the host of Israell till he be cleane Lev. 13. and 14. with 2 Chron. 26 20 21. Numb 12 10 15. The Temple is the house of God and yet is made a denne of thieues Mat. 21 13. The Emperours of Rome of Babylon the other nations are kings and higher povvers ordeyned of God Rom. 13 1. with Rev. 17 10. Dan. 7 17. yet are they also in other respects Beasts Lyons Beares Leopards c. Rev. 12 3. and 13 1 2. with Dan 7 3 6. So likewise the beast was and is not and yet is Rev. 17 8. And a number the like that may be observed in other places of the Scriptures compared together M. Ainsvv comming to answer and treat of this double regard aforesaid ‘ Animad p. 92 93 94 95 96. setteth himself to except and oppose vvhat he can finding the light of the truth herein to be so evident as it is is driuen divers times to yeeld unto it which yet he doeth in such sort as euen then also he ceaseth not to except and oppugne after his manner as the Reader in his treatise may obserue Novv how needfull profitable the consideration of this double regard is both about this and other questions in religion I leaue to the judgment of such as are of judgment and indifferency and that it may the better be considered of I haue here againe set it downe as I did heretofore Whereunto I will novv having this occasion annex this moreover touching Israel about the point in hand That when Ionah was commanded by the Lord to goe to Niniveh that great city and cry against it it is said * Jon. 1 3. he rose up to flee unto Tarshish from the presence of the Lord that is saith Piscator out of the land of Israell where the Lord dvvelt with his people Piscat in Ion 1 3. And that Ionah prophecied in Israel among the tenne tribes appeareth by 2 King 14 23 24 25 26. and vvas himself of Gath Hepher a towne of the tribe of Zebulun 2 King 14 25. vvith Josh 19 10 13. Now by this may appeare that Israell being compared vvith other nations as I noted before had another consideration estate in the account of God and his Prophets then those nations had Tarshish vvhither Ionah novv would flee is out of the presence of the Lord as the phrase is here used and understood Israell from whence Ionah fleeth is in the presence of the Lord. And so it is said in the historie the Lord was gracious unto Israell speaking of the ten tribes and had compassion on them and had respect unto them because of his covenant vvith Abraham Isaak and Jacob and would not destroy them neyther cast he them from his presence as yet 2 King 13 22 23. As the same phrase likevvise is used touching Iudah that through the anger of the Lord it came to passe in Ierusalem and Judah untill he had cast them out from his presence that Zedekiah rebelled against the king of Babilon 2 King 24 20. Jer. 15 1. Whereupon Piscator also compareth this phrase vvith the like speach in Moses where Cain said unto the Lord from thy face shall I be hid Schol. in Gen. 4 14. as M. Ainsw himself doth vvith those words And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord. In his Annot. on Gen. 4 16. The like may be observed in Amos his speach to Amaziah vvhere he calleth the land of Assyria a polluted land in respect of Israell Amos 7 16 17. And yet in other respect the land and people of Israell not onely of the ten tribes but of Iudah all the tribes of Israell together is said to be polluted and defiled Psal 106 38 39. Jer. 2 7. and 3 2 9. and 16 18. Hos 5 3. and 6 10. But of this and divers other things that may hither be referred I haue spoken here before more particularly Pag. 61 62. and 114 c. Novv before I proceed to other things it will not be amisse to shew what some others haue observed about this matter concerning a divers consideration of the church And namely vvhat Keckerman vvhose judgement I shewed here before vvriteth further thereabout The church saith he largely taken is again considered eyther distinctly with opposition to the heathen or collectiuely in respect of Christians among themselues The Christian church if it be loo●ed upon distinctly in opposition to the heathen is the company of al those which professe Christian religion or the name of
violent death but shal vve therefore match them together as like touching eternall death 3. Difference also is to be put betvveene the revealed and the hidden vvill of God so to call it As may be observed in the Lords dealing with Abraham Ezechiah and others God biddeth Abraham take Isaac his sonne sacrifice him yet Gods purpose vvas but thus to trie Abrahams faith and obedience vvhich purpose of God was as yet concealed from Abraham till God did afterward manifest it Gen. 22 1 2. c. The Lord also biddeth Esaiah goe tell Hezekiah that he should then dye when God notwithstanding doeth afterward adde fifteene yeres more to his life which as yet was concealed from Hezekiah Esa 38 1. c. Yet this double will so to call it is but in respect of us and the manifestation thereof unto us For otherwise in respect of God himself he never would any other thing but that vvhich also he doth 4. Again difference is to be put between willing as delighting with willing as decreing Otherwise if God simply would not none should dy at al. 5. Obserue vvithal vvhether in the places aforesaid the Prophet speak not of the vvicked converting to the Lord and not of the Reprobate whereabout the question novv is For which consider that vvhich is vvritten in Ezech. 18 21 22 27 28 c. 6. Finally the right translation understanding here is thus † Or I am not delighted with I haue no pleasure saith the Lord in the death of the wicked c. Whereupon obserue againe that God delighteth not in the death of a sinner in one respect as it is the destruction of his creature Ezech. 18 23. and 33 11. But he delighteth in it in another respect as it is his just punishment of sinne Psal 37 13. vvith 2 4 5 12. Prov. 1 26. Ezech. 21 17. And here see Piscat in Ezech. 18 23 32. and 33 11. Also Piscat Resp. ad duas disputat Taufreri Resenij pag. 38 100. Object III. But the doctrine of Gods predestination especially of Reprobation should not be taught or at least not be taught unto the common people c. Ansvv 1. Why then doeth the Scripture teach it the Prophets Apostles and Christ himself The Prophets Gen. 25 23. vvith Rom. 9 12. Exod. 9 16. and 33 19. vvith Rom. 9 15 17 18. Ier. 6 30. Mal. 1 2 3. vvith Rom. 9 13. Prov. 16 4. vvhere it is expressely said that the Lord hath made all things for himself yea euen the vvicked for the day of evill And Christ himself also teacheth the same when he saith † or I confesse to thee I thank thee O Father Lord of heauen and earth because thou hast hid these things the mysteries of the kingdome of heauen from the vvise and prudent and hast revealed them unto babes Euen so Father for so it seemed good in thy sight Mat. 11 25 26. Where it is evident that Gods decree not onely of election but of reprobation also dependeth meerely on Gods good will and pleasure Also Matt. 13 11. And again when he saith in his prayer to the Father Those that thou hast giuen me I haue kept and none of them is lost but the sonne of perdition meaning Iudas John 17 12. Like as Antichrist also is called the sonne of perdition 2 Thes 2 3. that is appointed to perdition and condemnation As by the sonnes of death is understood also such as are appointed to dye Psal 79 11. and 102. 20. And the Apostles teach it in like sort namely the Apostle Paul Rom. 9 11 23. and 11 chap. 2 Tim. 2 19 20. Ephes 1 3 11. 1 Thes 5 9. where the Apostle having said Let us not sleep as doe others but let us that are of the day be sober putting on the brestplate of faith and loue and for an helmet the hope of salvation then presently annexeth For God hath not appointed us to vvrath but to obteyne salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ And Peter likewise who teacheth out of the Prophets that Christ is a stone of stumbling and a rock of offence to them vvhich stumble at the word being disobedient vvhereunto also they vvere appointed 1 Per. 2 8. And Iude the Apostle saying There are certain men crept in unavvares vvho vvere of old foreordeyned to this condemnation c. Jude ver 4. Thus doe the Prophets Apostles Christ himself plainly and purposely teach this doctrine And should not then the ministers of Christ tread in their steppes being still carefull to teach it wisely and soundly according to the Scriptures For vvhatsoever things are vvritten aforetime they vvere vvritten for our learning that we through pacience and comfort of the Scriptures might haue hope Rom. 15 4. 2. Moreover this doctrine is both lawful and good to be taught in the church 1. Because it glorifyeth God ascribing and yeelding to God the glorie of his mercie justice wisdome and povver over all Ioh. 16 14. Rom. 9 22 23. and 11 33 36. II. Because it stirreth up to holynes of life prayer thanksgiving good vvorks searching and relying on the word of God c. 1 Thes 5 6 9. Mat. 11 25 26. Act. 4 24 28. c. Ephes 1 3 12. and 2 10. Rom. 15 4. 2 Tim. 3 15 16 17. 2 Pet. 1 3 10. III. Because it assureth us of the certaintie of our salvation being grounded in the eternall and unchangeable counsell of God It teacheth us to cast off all confidence in our selues and to ascribe our salvation onely to the grace of God acknowledging and admiring the riches of Gods mercy vvho of his free grace hath chosen us to life and salvation in Christ It comforteth us against distrust despaire and other manifold tentations arising by meanes of troubles and adversities that befall us in this life teaching us in all things paciently to rest in the work of God and particularly it strengtheneth us against the grief and offence that otherwise we might take at the iniquitie and evill dealing of hypocrites and other wicked persons in the church or out of the church in asmuch as we knovv that God is the disposer of all things that they come to passe according to his eternall and most certain and determinate counsell vvho therefore will vvork all things for good unto us in Christ 2 Tim. 2 19 20. Rom. 8 28 39. and 11 33 36. 2 Sam. 16 10 11. and Iob 1 21. Mat. 11 25 26. and 20 15. John 17 12. Act 2 23. and 4 27 28. 1 Pet. 2 6 7 8. Jude ver 3 and 4. Rev. 13 8. and 17 8. 20 15. and 21 27. 3. It giueth us good necessarie occasion to put difference between Gods decree of election reprobation which was before all beginning and betvveen the execution thereof vvhich succedeth in time aftervvard And thereupon to obserue that many things come betvveen the decree it self and the execution thereof which are due meanes causes of