no learned man would willingly be guilty of 2 I answere that of infants actuall faith is not required for that cannot be iustly required whereof in the ordinary course their very infancy makes them altogether vncapable This I haue so largely proued in the former Chapter as I should rightly bee condemned of tautologizing if I should stand to repeat all the testimonies before alleaged out of Zanchius Martyr Chameir D. Ames D. Davenant and the Author of the Com. vpon Tit. who all confesse that in infants it is enough to make them capable of the inward grace in Baptisme that they haue the Holy Ghost in them insteed of faith to apply the same 3 I answere that if these men will yet so farre gratifie the Anabaptists as to contend further that elect infants cannot be capable of the inward grace in baptisme without faith infants may in some sense bee admitted to haue faith and so not vncapable of the inward grace of that Sacrament Hee that said whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that beleeue in me p Mat. 18. would giue vs to vnderstand that it is no extraordinary thing for infants elected to haue in them some degree of faith not actuall but potentiall initiall seminall which is no other then the spirit of faith communicated as Zanchius and Peter Martyr well If my words bee worth nothing with these men if none of the worthies before alleadged may prevaile let them yet giue some credit to Mr Aynsworth a man farre enough off from from Popery and also from conformity to our present Church He in his Censure of a Dialogue of the Anabaptists when hee comes to that objection of theirs against the Baptizing of Infants viz that if it cannot be proued that infants haue their hearts sprinkled from an evill conscience haue faith repentance c. they ought not to be baptised giues a double answere 1. That this makes as much against circumcision of old as against baptizing of infants now 2. That Christian infants haue the graces they speake of repentance faith regeneration c. though not actually or by way of declaration to others yet they haue through the worke of the SPIRIT the seed and beginning of faith vertually and by way of inclination so that they are not wholy destitute of faith and regeneration though it bee a thing hid and vnknowne vnto vs after what manner the Lord worketh these in them This hee proueth solidly and fully and among other his arguments this is one They to whom God giueth the signe and seale of righteousnesse by faith and of regeneration they haue faith and regeneration for God giueth no lying signe hee sealeth no vaine or false covenants But God gaue to infants circumcision which was the signe and seale of the righteousnesse of faith and regeneration Gen. 17.12 Rom 4.11.2.28.29 Col. 2.11 Therefore infants had and consequently now haue faith and regeneration though not in the crop or harvest by declaration yet in the bud and beginning of all Christian graces Then marke his censure of such as deny this They saith hee that d ny this reason must either make God the Author of a lying signe seale of the covenant to Abraham his infants or they must hold that infants had those graces then but not now both which are wicked and absurd to affirme Or they must say that circumcision was not the signe and seale of the righteousnesse which is by faith and then they openly contradict the Scripture Rom. 4.11 And after more full proofe hee makes this sharpe conclusion Wherefore they are but a faithlesse and crooked generation that notwithstanding all that God hath spoken and done in this kind doe deny this grace of Christ to the infants of his people and the seale or confirmation of this grace by baptisme now as it was by circumcision of old Thus Hee pressed hereto by the Anabaptists Read the Author himselfe pag. 42. 43. 44. 45. whom it is not possible otherwise to shake off 4 Lastly I answere by retorting the argument vpon them that make it The same necessity which lies vpon an infant to haue actuall faith ere hee can partake of the spirit of Regeneration by his baptisme will also be as strong to exclude him from participation of the outward signe For baptismall washing is at least significant and obsignant too sealing to the party baptized the inward grace signified and exhibited by their owne confession that so much quarrel me for this Position of Baptismall Regeneration And if so what should an infant doe with this honourable mystery and sacred Ordinance he being not able to put any difference between baptismall washing by the Minister and ordinary washing of his face at home by his Nurse Now then if his present incapacity hinder not his partaking of the outward element which yet in the ordinary course of dispensation requires faith to discerne the vse and mystery of this Divine Institution as well as to apply the inward grace thereby signified what should hinder but that an infant belonging to the election of grace should partake initially of the grace of the Sacrament by the Spirit which is in him insteed of actuall faith Deny him this and deny him the Scacrament it selfe By all this I hope it is now evident out of the Scripture it selfe that either elect infants doe ordinarily partake of the spirit in Baptisme or else they receaue not whole Baptisme but only a peece if wee consider this Ordinance as the Scripture doth viz not only as an outward signe but as that which euer is accompanied with the inward grace to all that are elected My other Arguments drawne from Divine Testimony are two and both taken from two distinct vses of Baptisme which now follow in order Arg. 2 2. Argument Major That which was ordained to bee the Laver of spirituall regeneration renovation vnto all that are saued by it must needs containe in it the donation of the spirit by which this worke may be done Minor But Baptisme was ordained vnto this end that it should bee the Laver of regeneration and of the renewing of the Holy Ghost vnto all that partake of it and are saued ordinarily Therefore Baptisme taken as the Scripture takes it for all that which in baptisme is vsually giuen to the elect containes in it ordinarily the conferring of the spirit to all the elect that partake of it The Maior is vndeniable vnlesse we will maintaine that the effect may bee produced without it's proper cause for how can Baptisme wash and renew a man spiritually without conferring of the Spirit This is as if I should grant a man to speake yet deny him to haue a tongue or to admit him to act and moue rationally and yet not yeeld him to haue a reasonable soule This Proposition therefore I take for granted This place was alleadged in the former argument but to another purpose there to proue the spirit of Regeneration to be
loath to declare himselfe against that charitable conceipt of Antiquity viz. that for as much as infants having in them no sinne that is every way their owne but originall which is done away in baptisme if any faith be farther required to bring them to heaven in case they then depart this life they may be saved by the faith of their parents But this he doth as admitting this rather then the other touching actuall or habituall faith of their own which in the ordinarie course he thinkes as all other judicious Divines ever doe and ever did to be very incongruous and absurd whether we consider the nature of grace or the capacitie of nature in an infant for reception of such grace But for a Conclusion however he following the iudgment of many more in the ancient schooles of the Papists themselues * Vid Alex. Hâ—l par 4. q. 8. 〈◊〉 â—rt 3. 〈…〉 espâ—t 〈…〉 â—ast in 4. sen dist 4. c. non Extrast de Bapt. maiores will not heare of any infusion of so much as of the habit of faith in infants hee commeth backe to his former position wherein wee saw his accord with Peter Martyr and S. Augustine and shuts vp all thus o Sed etsi infantes non habere fidem habitualem tamen à spiritu sancto purgari dicimus sieri novas creaturas quia caro sanguis regnum culorum non possiarbunt â—â—â—ex aqua spiritu sancto râ—nati suerint 〈…〉 in regnum 〈◊〉 â—â—â—cperaâ—t spiritum saâ—ctum â—â—dabiliter 〈◊〉 Contâ—â—â—ce Bapt. quâ—dâ— 4. cap 6. in conclus But although infants haue not habitual faith yet we say that they are purged by the holy Ghost and made new creatures for as much as flesh and blood shall not inherit the kingdome of heaven and vnlesse they be borne againe of water and of the spirit they cannot enter into the kingdome of God therefore wee conclude that the spirit of God worketh in them in such a manner as cannot by vs be expressed I willingly admit that this purging and renuing of infants which he speakes of is to be vnderstood of the worke of the Spirit in such as die in infancie and are saved Howbeit he yeeldeth the spirit to be in all the rest also that belong to Gods election although the same effects bee not produced till they coâ—â— to age as those two plaine and pregnant pâ—â—ces alleadged but now our of his 5. Chapter concerning the efficacie of baptisme clearely and fully proclaime to all the world And so I haue done with him also D. White B. of Norwich Our next witnesse is that learned Doctor Francis White now L. Bishop of Norwich in his Answere to Fisher the Jesuite whom though I haue alleadged before and might therefore well be excused if I should passe him over here Yet because some that are resolued neuer to assent to this truth when they see or heare any testimonie produced out of anie good Author that is clearely for me they vse to shift it off among those that either cannot or will not examine the Authors themselues with this aspersion cast vpon me It is true say they that he makes a noise with quotations out of many Authors but how He catcheth vp here and there a word or a sentence that seemeth to make for his purpose and vseth them quite contrary to the Authors meanings as would easily appeare by examination of what goeth before and followes after in those Authors I am therefore constrained to bee tedious in many things not only to others but to my selfe also in being more large then I intended at the first meerely to vindicat my selfe from that which I am afraid they too well know that they vniustly lay to my charge vpon all occasions And for this reason am I compelled to repeate what formerly I alleadged out of this Author and to adde therevnto all that he hath spoken of the point that it may be manifest that I haue not wronged him as some giue out to their disciples The charge which Fisher commeth on withall vpon all Protestants at once is this Their errors against Baptisme the gate and entrance into Christian life wherof they deny the virtue to sanctifie men and the necessity thereof for infants to whom they grant salvation without Baptisme In which complaint the Iesuite would faine perswade that Protestants deny both the efficacie and the necessity of Baptisme Our Author answeres him to both particulers We haue here to deale only with the former touching which the whole passage runnes thus viz. p Pag 175.176 Although some persons haue beene Christians before their Baptisme as S. Augustine saith of Cornclius Even as in Abraham the iustice of faith was precedent and the seale of circumcision followed after so likewise in Cornelius spirituall sanctification by the gift of the Holy Ghost went before and the Sacrament of Regeneration in the Laver of baptisme succeeded yet notwithstanding the ordinary gate and entrance into Christian life is baptisme S. Ambrose sive Prosper d. vocat Gent. li. 1. ca. 5. The beginning of true life and righteousnesse is laid in the Sacrament of regeneration that looke where man is new borne there also the verity of vertues themselues may spring Neither doe Protestants deny the virtue and efficacy of Baptisme to sanctify men But according to the Holy scriptures Ephes 5.26 Tit. 3.5 Gal. 3.27 1 Pet 3 21. Act. 22.16 Rom. 6.3 And the ancient church they teach and maintaine that this sacrament is an instrument of sanctification and remission of sinnes The Leiturgy of the Church of England in the forme of administration of Baptisme hath these words Seeing now D.B. that these children be regenerate c. Wee yeeld thee hearty thankes most mercifull father that it hath pleased thee to regenerate this infant with thy holy spirit to receiue him for thine owne chiâ—d by adoption c. And master Hooker saith Baptisme is a Sacrament which God hath instituted in his Church to the end that they which receiue the same might be incorporated into Christ and so through his most pretious merit obtaine as well that saving grace of imputation which taketh away all former guiltinesse and also that infused diuine virtue of the holy Ghost which giueth to the powers of the soule their first disposition toward future newnesse of life Zanchius hath these words When the Minister baptizeth I beleeue that Christ with his hand reached as it were from heaven be sprinkleth the child baptized with water with his blood to remission of sinnes And in another place The Holy Ghost moveth vpon the water of Baptisme and sanctifieth the same making it to be a Lauer of Regeneration Calvine saith Per Baptismum Christus nos mortis suae participes fecit vt in eam inseramur By baptisme Christ hath made vs partakers of his death that wee may be ingraffed into it And in another place If any demand how can infants which want vnderstanding bee
from hence against the baptizing of infants that they are not capable of the inward grace If that be true Which Dr Ames affirmeth that they be as capable of baptisme in respect of the cheife vse thereof as persons of yeares who shall deny them the inward grace Doe we not know that in Gods account the sacrament of circumcision was not accounted circumcision when it was only outward in-the flesh and not inward also in the heart For he is not a Iew which is one outwardly neither is that circumcision which is outward in the flesh But he is a Iew which is one inwardly and circumcision is that of the heart in the spirit and not in the letter whose praise is not of men but of God Rom. 2. Circumcision We know was a seale of the righteousnesse which is by faith b 6. Rom 4.11 Now I demand whether any sound diuine did euer affirme that only the outward ceremony of circumcision of the flesh was vnto the elect the proper and only seale of the righteousnesse which is by faith Sure I am the Scripture euery where teacheth that the spirit is the seale of God set vpon the saithfull c 2. Cor. 1 22. Ephes 1.13.4.30 If then Circumcision were accounted vncircumcision where it was not accompanied with the inward grace what shall we say other of baptisme where the spirit is not communicated Therefore also in baptisme of the elect for whose sakes only this and all other ordinances of Christ were set vp in thâ— Church there must be ordinarâ—ly not only the outward element of water sprinkled on the child but the inward grace also else it must necessarily follow â—hat either in the baptizing of elect infants but halâ—e baptisme is ordinarily conferred which in Gods account is no better then no baptisme or Baptisme is not to infants what the scriptures affirme it to be to men of yeares And if this last be true in the ordinary course of diuine dispensation I will maintaine that infants are not to be baptised If those infants which may bee saued without baptisme receaue no more then the outward signe when they are baptized why are they baptized Can the outward signe saue them or make them more certaine or more capable of salvation then they were before so long as they remaine void of faith Were it not as good to deferre their baptisme till they be of yeares as to offer them to baptisme in infancy which doth them no more good then it doth to a reprobate till their actuall conversion To say that Baptisme admits them to the outward meanes is to say iust nothing to the purpose For aske these men what is it that makes a person capable of the inward grace of baptisme They will answer faith But how is this faith wrought By preaching of the word say they Well admit this may not an infant vnbaptised come to heare the word read or preached Anabaptists doe not shut their children out of the Church when the word is preached but onely exclude them from the Sacraments And wee also permit excommunicate persons to heare Sermons howeuer we debarre them from other ordinances Therefore infants need not baptisme meerly for their admission vnto the outward meanes of faith and conuersion for as much as they may participate of the word without baptisme and the word being by these mens telling the onely outward ordinary meanes of begetting faith If Anabaptists might as freely shew themselues here among vs as they doe in other countries this doctrine of Baptismal grace would bee better entertained by such as now oppugne it without consideration of this sequele This therefore to mee is without all controuersie that What the Scriptures doe attribute to Baptisme as the principall part and as it were the soule of Baptisme is ordinarily communicated from Christ vnto the Elect although infants because in them actuall faith is not required in their baptisme Where the Scripture makes no difference why should we What else doth the Author of the Commentary on the Epistle to Titus meane where he saith d Pag. 63 9. We must conceaue that in every Sacrament there bee three essentiall parts the absence of any of which destroy the whole 1. The Signe 2 the thing signified 3. the analogy betweene them which is the vnion of them both The first is some outward and sensible thing the second inward and spirituall the third mixt of them both To this agree all learned Divines and confessions of Reformed Churches so farre forth at least that they vnanimously conclude Sacraments to be not naked signes but certâ—ine sure witnesses and effectuall signes of grace and Gods good will towards vs by which he doth worke invisibly in vs e Articlâ—s of Relig. art 25. and convey some inward grace ordinarily from Christ vnto all that haue true interest in the couenant of Grace whereof Sacraments are the Scales And so my Maior stands good against all Sacramentarians and their vnwitting Proctors whatsoever I come therefore to the Minor The Minor Proposition now to be proved is this But the Scriptures doe attribute the conferring of the Holy Ghost to that ordinance as the principall part of it This I make good by all such Scriptures as mention the conferring of and washing with the Holy Ghost as well as with the outward element without difference of yeares and without mention of actuall faith to apply the same I might begin with that place in Ioh. 3.5 Except a man bee borne of WATER and of the SPIRIT c. where Water and the Spirit are ioined as going together into all heyres of the Kingdome Which place how ever some make a doubt whether it be meant of the Sacrament of Baptisme yet not onely the Ancients but Beza f Sed de Baptismo â—â—cagâ— siue simpliciter sive alâ—quà ad legalâ—s ablutiones allusione omnino existimo Beza in lâ—cum also without all doubt doe interpret of Baptisme so also the learned Bucer * Nec enim audiendos puto eos qui hic per aquam non aquam sed Spiriâ—um Sanctum volunt intelligi qâ—asi vero Dominus voluerit spiritum Sanctum bis ponere eoâ— dicere vel qui nâ—n fuerit gentâ—us ex â—piritu saâ—cto spiriâ—u saâ—cto vel quâ— non fuerit geâ—ituâ— ex aqua quae est spiritus sanctus Bucer de vi effic Baptis inteâ— scripâ— Anglic pag. 596. But because I did not vse it in my Lectures and some may wrangle at the exposition therefore resolue to waue it and quote only three other Texts The first is that in Math 3.11 I indeed baptize you with water vnto repentance but hee that commeth after me is mightier then I whose shooes I am not worthy to beare he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire In which place Iohn makes the Baptisme of Christ to consist non onely of Water but of the Holy Ghost and of the powerful operation of the Holy Ghost
one maine branch of whole baptisme here to declare the end of baptisme in respect of regeneration The Minor is expresse Scripture Tit. 3.5 Of his mercy he saued vs by the Laver of regeneration and of the renewing of the Holy Ghost which he shed on vs abundantly through Iesus Christ our Saviour Therefore the Conclusion is sound But you will perhaps except and say that the Apostle speakes here of Actuall Regeneration which by my former distinction and foundation cannot agree to infants Answ That he speakes of Regeneration the Text it selfe will cleare it but that hee speaks only of actual Regeneration wrought by the Word is not apparent yea no circumstance of the Text will warrant any man so to restraine it The Text tells vs that Baptisme is the Laver of Regeneration but that it is only to actuall beleeuers such what words will beare such an exposition But to make all sure let vs heare what Iudicious Calvine and other of the Learned speake of the true meaning of this place that so in the mouths of two or three witnesses every word may be established 1 Mr Caluine in his answere to the Anabaptists who deny baptisme to infants vpon pretence of their incapacity of the end of Baptisme to witt Regeneration till they be able to make vse of the Word brings them in thus obiecting But how say they are infants regenerated in baptisme they being not capable of so much as any knowledge either of good or euill To this saith he wee answere that this is the secret worke of God which although to vs it be not euident yet we may not say that therefore it is none at all a At quomodo inquiunt regenerantur insantes nec boni nec mali cogniâ—ione praediti nos autem respondemus opus Dei etiamsi captui nostro non subiaceat non tamen esse nullum Instit lib 4 cap. 16. Sect. 17. Now if he meant not this of what God ordnarily workes in and at baptisme it were no answere to their obiection which lies only against all present efficacy of Baptisme in the ordinary course in and vpon Infants The same Author prosecuting the same businesse to that obiection which they further make viz. that Circumcision and therefore Baptisme is the sacrament of repentance and faith Saith thus Although infants in the moment of their circumcision were not able to comprehend what that signe meant they were yet truly circumcised for the mortification of their corrupt and defiled nature which after they came to yeares they meditated on In a word this obiection is easily answered they are baptized vnto future repentance and faith which graces although they be not formed actually yet by the secret operation of the spirit the seedes of both doe lye hid in them By this answere is at once ouerthrowne whateuer these men obiect against vs from the signification of Baptisme such as that for example where Paul calls baptisme the Lauer of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Ghost from whence they would conclude that this sacrament is to be administred vnto none but to such as are capable of these graces b Etsi infantes quo circumcide bantur momâ—nto quid sibi vellet lignum illud intelligentia non comprehendebant vere tamen circumcidebantur in naturae suae corruptae as coâ—taminatae mortificationem quam adulti postea mâ—ditarentur Denique nullo negotio solui potest obiectio haec baptizari in futuram paenitentiam fidem quae etsi nondum in illis formatae sunt arâ—ana tamen spiritus operatione vtriusque semen in illis lateâ— Hac responsione semel euertitur quicquid aduersum nos torquent a baptismi significatione petitum Quale estielogium quoa Paulo insignitur vbi vocat lauaâ—rum regenerationis renovationis vnde ratiocinantur nemini nisi earum rerum capaci conferendum Idem ibid Sect. 20. So then Caluine you see avoucheth infants to be partakers of Regeneration in Baptisme although not actuall yet seminall and initiall and that from this very place of the Apostle 2 Zanchius in his Confessions affirmeth that not only those of yeares but infants also if they doe truly and indeed belong to the couenant are in baptisme so sealed as they that euen now are incorporated by the Holy Ghost into Christ and that therefore among other titles giuen vnto baptisme in scripture it is called the Lauer of regeneration c Baptismus primum Novi Faederis sacramentum est quo cum omnes qui vel paenitentiam peccatorum professi fidem etiam in Christum adeoque in deum patrem Filium spiritum sanctum profitentur vel altem propter parentum pietatem ad faedus pertinere creduntur 1 Cor. 7.14 tum maxime illi qui vere ad faedus pertinent Christo tanquam ei iam per spiritum sanctum incorporati obsignantur vt non sint amplius sui turis sed illius per quem in faederis societatem eâ—que in vnum corpus cum eo sanctisque omnibus in omnium spiritualium caelestiuinque bonorum participationem asciti esse dicuntur Act. 19.5 1 Cor. 6.19 Per hunc baptismum tanquam lauacrum regenerationis a peccatis vi sanguinis Christi mundati cum Christo consepulit in mortem vt quemadmodum ille resurrexit a mortuis per gloriam patris sic nos in novitate vitae ambulemus vnde sacramentum paenitentiae in remissionem peccatorum sacramentum fidei â—ymbolum faederis Lauacrum regenerationis c. appellari consueuit lib. confess cap. de Cap. de Bap. sect 1. 3 Peter Martyr expounds this place not only of that which is conferred on persons of yeares endued with actuall faith but euen vpon elect infants also by virtue of the Holy Ghost supplying in them the roome of faith I alleadged the place before yet because hee speakes so fully to this purpose I will repeat the same againe This Author hauing declared himselfe for the efficacy of baptisme doth with al giue vs to vnderstand that in persons of yeares faith is so requisite that without faith they neither receiue the seale of iustification nor yet of sanctification in their baptisme For as Austin well the efficacy of baptisme is from the word of institutioÌ„ indeed yet not as it is pronounced by the minister but as it is beleeued by the receiuer But what benefit then can baptisme may some say bring to Infants who cannot actually beleeue This d Loc. Com. clas 4. cap. 8. sect 2. See our former Chap. where the Authors own words are quoted in the Margent pag. 51. our Author wisely and roundly preuents by adding that in Jnfants who by reason of their tender yeares cannot beleeue the Holy Ghost supplies the roome of faith And to assure vs that such infants haue the spirit he alleadgeth this very place of our Apostle to Titus saying The effusion of the holy Ghost also is promised in Baptisme as the Apostle expressely writes to Titus where he saith who saued
am willing to giue euery man an answere to the least appearance of an Argument against this position as well as to those of more strength and substance I will in this chapter adde answers to all the rest that ever I could yet see or read or heare of so as no man shall haue cause either to complaine that I haue sleighted him by not giuing answere to his obiections or to triumph ouer my silence as if in that I did acknowledge his reasons to be vnanswerable 7 Octiection What circumcision was to the Obiect 7 beleeuing Iewes that baptisme is now to elect Christians forasmuch as Baptisme succeeds in the roome of Circumcision But in Circumcision the spirit was not giuen ordinarily to the elect themselues as appeares in the Apostle Saint Paul himselfe who long after his circumcision thus complaineth I am carnall sold vnder sinne Rom. 7.14 I was a blasphemer a persecutor and iniurious 1 Tim 1.13 and in Tit. 3.3 he puts himselfe among the sort of vnhallowed persons for wee our selues saith he were sometimes foolish disobedient seruing diuers lusts and pleasures liuing in malice and envy hatefull and hateing one another Therefore the spirit is not ordinarily giuen in baptisme no not to the elect I Answere Answere 1 To the Maior then to the Minor Proposition in order thus 1 To the maior that it may be vnderstood three waies it holds true but only in one of the three For Circumcision may be said to be the same with baptisme either in respect of the substance which both doe lead vnto viz Christs blood and spirit or in respect of the manner of representation or lastly in respect of the measure of grace conferred The proposition holds true only in the first of these three And euen in that it must be considered that the Apostles calls Circumcision a seale of the righteousnesse which is by faith Rom 4.11 that is of that righteousnesse which the Gospell proclaimeth and not of that which is expected by the law Now the seale of righteousnesse vnto the elect is not the outward ceremony alone but the inward grace annexed therevnto and exhibited conferred therewith And the seale wherewith they are sealed is the earnest of the spirit in their hearts 2 Cor. 1.22 If therefore the elect were sealed in Circumcision it followes that they receiued the spirit As for the manner of representing the inward grace of the sacrament and for the measure of grace conferred in the sacrament I doubt not to say with Iudicious a Lib. 4. Instit cap. 14. sect 22. nec non in Antidoto Caluin forasmuch as b Cum Calvino integerrimo Theolog. respondeo vetera sacramenta vmbras dici non quod non omnino Christum representarent sed quod minus clare significanter id facerent quam nostra quod in nostris vberior spiritus gratia se proserat quam in illis Whitak de sacram in genequest 5. cap. 2. D. Whitaker hath so answered before me and calls Calvin a most compleat Diuine for so saying the sacraments of the old Testament were called shaddowes not because they did not at all represent Christ but because they did it lesse clearly and significantly than ours doe and because there is a more plentifull measure of grace of the spirit conferred in ours then was in them The Maior proposition then comes short of what it should because it ought to affirme that there is no more efficacy in baptisme in respect of the measure of grace conferred than was of old in circumcision which both Mr Calvin and Dr Whitaker do deny That proposition therefore proues nothing worth 2 I deny the Minor viz that in circumcision the spirit was not ordinarily giuen to the Elect notwithstanding the instance of blessed Paul For 1 It is no good arguing Paul had not the spirit in circumcision therefore none of the Elect did ordinarily then receiue it They that deny our maine position will not deny that any at all doe receiue the spirit The only thing they take offence at is that I say this is ordinary in the baptisme of the elect For say they some particular cases doe not proue an ordinary practise Now then I retort their owne rule vpon them What if Paul had not the spirit Doth this proue that none at all haue him He that saith the spirit is ordinarily giuen but not alwaies may say true notwithstanding one or two instances wherein it falls out otherwise If they like not that I should from the particular instance of Iohn Baptist inferre that all are sanctified in the womb what reason haue they to conclude from one example that the thing in not ordinarily done at all viz Paul had it not therfore ordinarily none haue it This is but trifling and vnequall dealing 2 I say that I will not doubt to maintaine that Paul who saith of himselfe that God seperated him from his mothers womb Gal. 1.15 did receaue the spirit in circumcision notwithstanding any thing to the contrary in any of those places alleaged for confirmation of the Minor proposition For let vs examine them and we shall finde that they fall short of prouing that which they are produced for 1 That place in Rom. 7. I am carnall and sold vnder sinne is confessed by all Orthodox Divines to bee spoken in the person of a man actually regenerated to shew what he is in part even after such his Regeneration in respect of the flesh lusting against the spirit and leading him oft-times into captiuity to the Law of sinne And so this confirmes what I formerly affirmed in answere to the sixth Objection touching some kinde of reigning sinne that the regenerate are not wholy freeed from The dominiō of sinne in the regenerate which is but improperly called a Dominion may be distinguished from the proper dominion of sinne in reprobates by the instāce in two men swimming in a strong tide one swimming against the tide the other with it They are both carried downe the streame by the strength of the water but one striues against it even when hee is most violently carried away with it the other is carried away and neuer striues but puts out all his strength to swimme along with the tide willingly and wilfully with delight and desperate resolution For in respect of the victory of sin ouer them at some times in som particulars sinne may be said to reigne because it hath so gotten the vpper hand that it leads them captiue yet it doth not absolutely reigne because they doe not freely and wholy giue themselues vp vnto it without any desire to change Lords They are sold vnder sinne but yet they doe not as Ahab sell thēselues to work wickednesse They are ouercome yet they obey not willingly but only vnwillingly suffer in respect of the part regenerate In the same sense also the same Apostle calls them carnall 1. Cor 3.3 whom but a little before ver 1. hee had pronounced babes in Christ