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A05089 A petition directed to Her Most Excellent Maiestie wherein is deliuered 1. A meane howe to compound the ciuill dissention in the Church of England, 2. A proofe that they who write for reformation, do not offend against the stat. of 23. Eliz. c.2. and therefore till matters be compounded, deserue more fauour ... : here vnto is annexed, some opinions of such as sue for reformation ... : also, certayne articles vvherein is discouered the negligence of the bishoppes ... : lastlie, certayne questions or interrogatories dravvn by a fauourer of reformation ... Barrow, Henry, 1550?-1593. 1591 (1591) STC 1522A; ESTC S1453 68,920 84

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Seek of Reformation doe mainteine that their iurisdiction is contrary to the worde of God Not condemning externall honor which is good and godly in it selfe but misliking that it should be accepted by such persons as are disabled and made vncapable there of by the Scripture Thus much for better vnderstanding of this question To proceed 1 There must diuers things concurre to make bookes felonious by this statute First they must be written Aduise●ly against the Queene that is of purpose wittingly not of simplicitie or ignorance Ignorantia fact● excusat Ignorance of the fact excuseth the fault And therefore as the Prell dealt mi●●iouslie with Richard Carmicheill in Scotland in compelling him to burne his bill because in his dreame hee did crie out The Diuell take away the Priestes for they are a greedy packe so if any man in his sleepe or at vnwares shal cast forth di●●amatory wordes against the Queene he is not within this statute Secondly the booke must be writen of malicious intent and as the preamble of the statute is by one ill affected to hir Maiestie and therefore if a man vse such a speach as Burder the Marchant did when he saide He would make his sonne the heire of the crowne meaning his house at the signe of the Crowne not intending any hurt to the King or Crowne of Englande he could not without great iniustice be drawne within this or the like statute Thirdlie the wordes must conteine false and seditious matter therefore if a man shoulde haue saide that the King William Rufus did wickedly who to ge●t mony of the Iewes caused some cōuerted to Christianity to returne to Iudaisme the fact beeing trew and words not seditious he could not iustly be punished by this or any like statute The Seekers of Reformation h●ue not neither doe write Aduisedlie to diffame the Queene for they name not hir Maiestie to any di●honor in any of their bookes If the contrary can be proued Currat lex let the offender be punished as he deserueth They onely seeke to haue as they thinke the corruption of the t●●e redressed as ●he Prophetes the holy men of God haue done heretofore without ●●tending anie dishonour to good Princes such as her Maiesty●s The Seek of Reformation write against ignoraunt and vnlearned ministers so the Prophet Esa●e liuing vnder the godly king did call the priestes that wanted knowledge Dumbe dogges such as can not barke The Seekers of Reformation write against such as be careles and negligent in feeding the soules that depende vpon them that take the fleece turne ouer the care of the flocke to other so Esa●e reprooueth the priestes of his time That lye and sleepe and delight in sle●ping And another Prophet taxeth them that did not Keepe the ordinaunces of holy thinges them selues but set other to take charge of the sanctuarie The Seekers of Reformation doe cry out against plurified persons that can not be content with a competent liuing but insatiablie by dispensations and qualifications doe ioine benefice to benefice and charge to charge rather to enriche them selues then benefite the Church against such men did Esaie complaine calling them Greedie dogges that can neuer haue inough euerie one of them looking to his owne waie and to his owne aduantage The Seekers of Reformation write against the ciuill authority and rule of Ministers So Ieremy in the dayes of Iosiah a vertuous Prince condemned Priestes For bearing rule The Seekers of Reformation write to haue the Church throughly purged of all remnants of popery idolatry So the spirit of God did note as a fault euen vnder most excellent Kings That the h●e places remained vnremoued All these and many other witnesses of the trueth did speake and write against the state of the Church in Iudah and were not I trust aduised de●famers of the Princes vnder whome these corruptions had gotten strength In like maner the writinges of the Seek of Reformation against such thinges as they verilie beleeue to be enormious corruptions can not iustly bee deemed aduisedly and of purpose diffama●orie to hir Highnesse When persecution was most furious in Englande they that wrote most vehemently against the Bishops their proceedings contenanced by lawe were neuer accounted aduised diffamers of the Prince for then they should haue bene reputed and punished as traytours or rebells r●ther then as s●ismatikes and heretikes Neither hath their bene in all the thirtie yeares of her Maiesties most flourishing raigne till within 2. or 3. yeares last part any such conclusion euer made though the same lawes in substance haue bene in force and occasion giuen of great extremity I am perswaded that vpon hearing the matter debated by learned I awiers on the part of the defendantes as lawe and reason would in this matter of difficulty that toucheth life that our reuerende Iudges would at the first make a quaere whether the aduised di●●amation of the Bb. were an aduised diffamation of the Queene Therefore it may well come vnder the title of Newes that the Seekers of Reformation should resolue in a point of lawe wherein the best lawiers may stand in doubt ●f my father were a ● Bishop or a No●resident and ● would write against the state of the Bb. or Nonresidence to make men conformable to the lawe of God it were adsurde to affirme that I did write of purpose and aduisedly to diffame my Father So in our case mutatis mutandis c. Neither doe the Seekers of Reformat write against the iurisdiction of Bb. of any hatred or Malice to the Queene For whosoeuer were King or Queene of England though it were Dauid him selfe they would vvrite to the same effect that they doe nowe It is not like that they malice her Maiesty for sauing the matters in vari●nce no man can charge them with any shewe of disloyall behauiour They are instant for hir Maiesty in prayer both publike and priuate They detract no duety no imposition no taxe or subsidie as becommeth duetifull and louing subiests It was neuer heard that any one no not one of them did euer attempt any hurt to hir Royall person Search the Rolls looke the Recordes it will appeare that some o● them whom England while England indureth shall still with thankfulnes remember haue hazarded themselues asmuch for her Maiesties safety and Englands good as any subiect what soeuer When the Spaniards intended an inuasion the establishment of a forraine potentate in the Sea Royall and the conuersion of this lande into A●eldama a fielde of bloude the Ministers that seeke Reformation gaue great assurance of their affection and loyalty to the Queenes maiesty and the seate They were importunate with the Lord by priuate and publike prayer fasting for the safety of her Royal person before the Bishops or their followers were seen to goe about any such matter And being interdicted by the Bishops such was their zeale to the
it euidently appeare where the fault lyeth This is the intent of this humble petition made onely for the peace of this Church quiet of the Realme Which two things it behooueth all Christian subiectes to aduaunce forward with their whole endeuour The God almighty who to the great wonder of the world hath most miraculous●ie defended and deliuered you from all the cursed enterprises against your Realme and person preserue your Maiestie many yeares in health honour prosperity and victory to his glory the good of his Church the reliefe of his Saints to the ioy of Englande and all Nations that professe the trueth AMEN good Lord and cursed be he from heauen that sayeth not from the heart AMEN AMEN To the ende that it may appeare howe vniustlie the Seekers of Reformation are slaundered by the Bishoppes and others I thought good bries●●e and truely to deliuer the opinions of such as sue for Reformation which I haue gathered out of their bookes and seene in their practise and heard in conference which I haue had with them 1 THEY openly professe and acknowledge that they be sinfull men subiect to infirmity as well as others They doe not call or account them selues Cathar● or 〈◊〉 and therefore if Augustine say true that Cathar● sunt q●i ●eipsos isto nomine quafi propter munditi●● suberbissime at que o●iosissimè nominant They bee Puritanes That in conceipt of their owne puritie do● most proudly and odiously call them selues by that name then vvithout question they be no Puritanes vnles in that sence that all the Apostles saue Iudas and all other true Christians are called 〈◊〉 or Puritanes in the Scriptures 2 They doe absolutely yeelde and subscribe to all the articles of Christian f●●th and doctrine professed in the Church of Englande according as they bee inioyned by the lawes of the lande and therefore they doe not offende against the Statute made in the thirteenth yeare of her Highnes raigne and withall haue open iniurie in being called schismatikes 3 They doe vnfeinedly giue to her maiesty all that power souera●tie and authoritie whatsoeuer is recognised to be in her Highnes by the othe of the Supremacies as her maiesty 〈◊〉 and the Parliament haue expounded 〈◊〉 and there●ore they be not Traytours by the statutes of 〈◊〉 or quinto of her Maiesty 4 They professe all submission reuerence and obedience to the right Honourable the Lordes of the priuy Councell the Iudges and all other ciuill Magistrates of this state honouring them as Lieutenants of God and her Maiesty and therefore they be not Anababtists who would abandon the authority of Magistrates and distinctions of states among Christians And although they beleeue that it is not agreeable to the doctrine and example of Christ and his Apostles that Bb. and Preachers should accept temporall Lordship and ciuill authority yet they honour that authoritie which is deriued to them from her Maiestie in regard whereof they submit them selues to be conuented imprisoned fined c. by them much lesse will they vvith force and armes resist or rebell against her Maiesties most lawfull authority eyther in her selfe or being deputed to others who are not disabled by Gods worde to vse it and therefore they bee not within the statute of vice ●imo tertio of Raising rebellion against her Highness 5 They hold it lawfull and necessarie before Magistrates to take an oth being called thereunto so that the oth being a matter highly concerning the worship of God be guided and taken as the Scriptures allowe that is not in vaine where a matter may bee otherwise proued by sufficient euidence or witnesse nor yet rashly as swearing to answere they know not to what or before the Articles which they must answere vpō their oth be made knowen vnto them 6 They seeke not to pull downe the Courts of Iustice as the high Court of Parliamēt the Starchamber the Kings bench the Chanceri● or any of the rest but they desire they may stande as they doe sauing that Bb. Ecclesiasticall persons should be shut out from them set to preach the gospell follow their owne vocation not being charged with other offices vnles they were sometimes called in weighty difficult causes to giue counsell aduise what may or should be done by the word of God 7 They denie not but that matters of Testamentes and Mariages may bee determined by Ciuilians in their Courtes if it seeme not good to the Parliament to transferre these things to the temporall Lawiers alwaies prouided that their Courtes may be made meere tēporall not intermedling wi the Church Censures prouided likewise that the Bb. or other Ministers haue no dealing therin prouided also that causes may be iudged there not by popes lawes but by the word of God the laudable Customes Statutes Iniunctions Synodall and Prouinciall Constitutions accepted in this Realme a greable to the word of God and established by hir Maiesties authoritie and act of Parliament 8 They teach that neyther the Ministerie nor people of this Realme ought to make any general Reformation neither with force and armes or otherwise of their owne authoritie change any lawes made or established for religion by authoritie of Parliament but they holde that the generall reformation doeth belong to the Magistrate as Gods Lieuetenant to deale in and that for them selues they may and oughte in dutifull and christian forte both preache write and sue to the Magistrates for redresse of enormities and also practise the or dinances of Christ which he hath commanded his Church to keepe to the ende of the world and therefore they haue not incurred the dangers of lawes made against Riots Routes or vnlawfull Assemblies 9 They detest all such as aduisedly falsly or malicious●ie slaunder or dis●ame her most excellent Maiestie and therfore they be not felons by the statut prouided against spreaders of Newes or false rumours 10 They doe maineteyne that according to the approued doctrine of Englande Emperours or any Christian magistrats whatsoeuer being members of the Church of Christ ought to submit themselues to excommunication or other ecclesiastical censures being duely orderly vpon iust occasion according to the commaundements of Christ executed 11 That a Magistrate standing excommunicated ought to be obeyed and honoured in all respectes of subiection for custome subsidie loue or any other imposition or seruice whatsoeuer of body goods and landes as if hee were not excommunicated And therefore they abhorre the Antichristian and most pestiferous doctrine of the popish ●orte that giueth liberty to the subiect to withholde his seruices and duties from the Magistrate so long as he standeth excommunicate 12 Their suite to her M●iesty and this honorable state is that it may be permitted and enacted by law that the church of Christ may bee ruled by such lawes orders and officers as Christ himselfe hath expressed in his
the Bishops Chappell else the book would not say Take authoritie to preach in this Congregation For it can not be im●gined that all the Priestes which a Bishop maketh haue authoritie to preach or exercise their office in the Bish. Chappell when they list Yet notwithstanding the authority of this booke the Bb. admit ministers who be no Preachers whereas this book and their owne authoritie by Lawe Artic Cler. cap. 13. might aunswere any Quare impedit if they would refuse a Clearke for non abilitie of preaching Also notwithstanding this booke to get mony for if that bee not their purpose let them doe it gratis but then they would not stick at it they compell men beeing ordered after this book to take new licences to preach not beeing contented when they shewe them their letters of orders which the Bishops at their pleasure vpon a supposed misdemeanor doe vse to take from them Furthermore sundrie of the Prelates doe preache and take their texts out of the Apocripha wherein they goe beyonde their commission vnlesse the Apocripha be a parte of the scripture as one of the Bishops doeth intitle it Lastly notwithstanding the intent of this booke they ordeine Ministers at large in nubibus without a cure they neuer ordeyne them in the Congregration to which they are presented that the people of the Church who are likelie to be most inquisitiue into his conuersation that ●halbe their Pastor might except against them for the Bb. willeth the people present to speake if they knew any impediment or crime in the person presented that may hinder him from the ministery Which by all likelihoode can not be meant of a people of a st●aunge parish nor of the Bishops family vnlesse the Bish. famely be like the knights of the post in Westminster who know al men their conditions lands and estates though they neuer saw or heard of them before 35 All the Bishops that be present at the consecration of Bishops should we are Coapes and Surplesses hauing their Pastor●ll Staues in their handes they rete●ne the Surplesse seldome the Coapes but they neuer vse their Pastorall Staues Out of the Queenes Iniunctions 36 By the Queenes Iniunctions which should be executed in all her Highnes Realmes and Dominions all ecclesias●icall persons hau●●g cure of soules ought to preach in their church and 〈◊〉 other cure they haue one s●imon euery moneth And in their owne person they should preach once euery quarter or else read an Homely so that in euery parish●● England Ireland Wales there should haue bin twelue sermos preached euery yeare either by the Minister or his deputy as it is expounded and the minister in proper person should haue preached foure sermons or read foure Homilies euery yeare since her Maiesty began hir raigne yet there bee many hundred churches within theese Dominions especially in Wales Irelande the Northen Western partes that haue scarcely had twelue sermons in twelue yeares and there be many persons that cry formality that come not twise in a yeare at their charge to benefite the people by any duty 38 Erasmus Paraphrases should bee had in all Churches yet the Bishops wilbe more carefull to enquire if euery parish haue a su●plesse rather then to enjoyne any booke learning 38 Ecclesiastical persons should not play at dice cardes tables or any other vnlawful game but vse some other honest exercise as shooting but the Bb. chaplens and followers that pretend most obedience to the Queenes lawes doe more offende in these matters then any other Ministers 39 All Nonresidents which may dispende aboue twentie pound yearly ought to distribute the 40. part of their liuing to the poore of the parish but this is lightly regarded of the most as I suppose 40 Whosoeuer Parson Vicar c. may dispend in ecclesiasticall promotions aboue 100. pounde yearely should giue for euery 100. pound three pounds six s●illings and viij pence yearely to so many poore schollers in the Vniuersitie or Grammer schooles as he hath hundred poundes that hauing profited in learning they might bee made partners of their Patrons cure and otherwise be imployed for the good of the common wealth The Bishops doe not inioyne their Chapleins their Deanes and Doctours to subscribe to this article though if this one article had beene obserued by our formall Prelates who be accompted the onely obedient subiectes as it should haue bene and yet bee if our Bishops and regarde the Queenes orders there would haue growed and hereafter growe more profite hereby to the Church state vnder hir Maiesty then hath ensued by all episcopall subscription for these hūdred yeares Marke Bish. it is your fault that learning decayeth and that there wanteth a continuall supply of learned Ministers If this Article had bene performed there might haue bene relieued yearely euer since her Maiest came to the Crown aboue 1000. poore schollers who for want of maintenance haue applyed her time trauell to other matters Blush at your negligence herein 41 The Queenes Iniunctions ought to be read in the Churches openlie once euery quarter But this were no wisedome for then the people would expect many things at the Bishops and their P●●estes handes that are not conuenient to be knowen of the common sort 42 The holidaies should be spent in hearing Gods word in priuate and publike prayers in reconciliation of enemies receyuing the Sacramentes and visiting the poore vsing all sobernes and godly conuersation yet the Bb. themselues and their Priests who should be ensamples to the flocke bestow these daies prophanely at bowles hearing Commedies and Tragedies c. Which be farre from the dueties both here in the scriptures commaunded 43 All superstitious pictures paintings in walles and glasse windowes should be abolished out of Churches and houses yet many Church-windowes bee full of such pictures and as I heare the Bb. be not without such paintings in their Chambers 44 The Wiues of Ministers and Deacons should be allowed by the ordinarie and two Iustices of peace Many foreward Chapleins regard not this 45 All Cleargie people should weare their habits sqare cappes c. and no● hattes in iourneying yet there bee a number of the Bishops Priestes that breake this order as well as the Ministers that seeke reformation 46 The Iniunctions allow a man to be absent from common prayer at his owne parish Church and to resort to another in the same Towne to heare a sermon yet the Bishops and their O●●ici●lles punishemen in such cases vnlesse they will giue them a Marke or such like see for a licence of absence 47 Where Musicke is vsed in churches it should bee in such a distinct modest song that the same might be plainlie vnderstood as if it were read without singing But the curiosity of Cathedrall churches doth disdaine this simplicity 48 None
ecclesiasticall lawes put in execution rather then to inforce such as be lesse profitable needfull For w●ether is it more requisite to the glorie of God and good of hir Maiestie and this Realme that Ministers shoulde Catechise their Pari●he that they should debarre notorious offendours from the Communion That Sabboth dayes shoulde be kept holy That Church Wardens and Ministers should admoni●he p●●uatelie all euen the most Noble to leaue their faultes The Nonresidentes and fat beneficed persons shoulde relieue the poore at home studious scollers abroade That there should be twelue sermons yerelie in euerie parish through Englande Wales and Ireland That no Aduowsons should be graunted That the pernicious and detestable sinne of Nonresidence and Pluralities shoulde bee reformed and such good orders practised Is it not more requisite I s●●e that these thinges should be looked vnto rather then the wearing of a surplesse Marying with a ring Christening with a crosse Subscription to an Article and such like Yet it is apparaunt to all men that Bishops their Officialles Deacons Doctoures and Fauoures are more curious in vrging and vsing the latter then the former yet both haue like authoritie from hir Maiestie and them selues I suppose the Bishops and their followers would be as vnwilling to execute the Queenes lawes and Iniunctions as any fauourers of reformation if they were vrged there vnto in earnest It is certaine that the Bb. can tollerate the neglect of all these and innumerable other dueties in one of their flatterers whereas if a m●n bee but suspected to mislike in hearte the Lordlie goue●nement of Bishops hee sh●lbe sure to haue all extremitie shewed against him if hee o●●ende but in the least ceremonie Yea greater seueritie shall be vsed for neglect of the least and most improfitable obseruation then for neglect of the most neces●arie and important O Englande Englande howe long wilt thou bee missed by those carnall wordlinges that haue their speciall care to adnance and inriche them selues and their posterity rather then to obey thy lawes or the lawes of thy God bee they neuer so holy so necessarie and godlie Who hath bewitched thee that thou canst not see that they bee more rebellious more s●hismaticall more disloyall and disobedient subiectes vvho acknowledge thy lawes to bee good and godly but doe despise them euen the greatest of them then they that yeelding to the greatest matters doe of conscience refuse such thinges as be least profitable and expedient in any Church O that hir Ma●esty would appoint faithfull trewe christian and ●nglish-harted men indeede to examine these thinges to call the Bb. their Chaplens and Officers to account in these matters shee shoulde finde that they b●e of the most vnduetiful subiects in all the lande and they that be now least regarded would bee founde the most trustie most godly and obedient of all other My wordes will proue true in the daies of triall when these things shall be regarded and rewarded with indifferency and then Bishoppes assure your selues that the day of your desolation is at hande Howe long O Lord holie and trewe Reuel 6. 10. Come Lord Iesus come quickelie 22. 21. Certaine Questions or Interrogatories drawen by a fauourer of Reformation out of the former treatises and other writinges concerning Reformation wherein hee desireth to be resolued by the Prelates which the Printer hath thought good here to annexe QVae●e whether the right honorable and chie●e ●ustice of England Sir Christopher Wra● Knight did not at th' examin●tion of H. Barrowe in the Bish of Londons pallace affirme that men should incurre no penaltie for opinions which they helde doubtinglie And whether a man may not without breach of lawe Diuine or Humane for his further satisfaction make quaerees and doubtes in speciall causes shewing withall the reason of his doubting affirming nothinge peremptorily or positiuely but submitting him selfe to sounde resolution If that be graunted why may not I be a Put-case say as followeth 2 Quaere whether the forme of praiers administration of the Sacramentes attire of Ministers and other Church-ceremonies in Englande doe more agree to the Apostolical primitiue order or to the vse of the Romi●h Church And whether popish orders be more seemely conuenient then the Apostolike 3 Quaere whether our rites and ceremonies taken from the papistes doe not giue them offence and harden them in their sinne seeing Harding doeth gather thereby that Poperie is not so ill as it is commonlie reputed And Bristowe saith That our religion and Communion were nothing worth vnlesse we borrowed from them their Masse-booke whether al indifferent things that giue of●ence vnto the weake ought not by Paules doctrine be remoued from the church 4 Quaere whether the square C●ppe Surplesse and other monumentes of popery and idolatry condemned in generall by the Queenes Iniunctions Bishops Articles and publike doctrine of Englande and other Christian Churches misliked and wished to be abolished by Bull●ger Alas●o Bucer B. P●●kington and Bale derided by Bucer and Maister ●ox refused to be worne by Peter Martyr Bucer Ho●per Rogers Humfrey Philpot Bradfort Haddon Saunders as I haue credibly hearde whether the Surplesse called by Martyr monstrous apparell by Caluin Player-like apparell and vaine visardes by Bez● Insignes of the Baaltticall Priesthoode by B. R●●ley foolish and abhominable too fond for a vice in a play by D. ●a●lor apish toyes and toyishe trumperie by D. Poinet a Porters weed at Billingsgate by the Bee-hiue of the Romish Church a smocke and long shirt by Bale pretie toyes by Becon Hist●●onicall see●●call and hick-scorne●like app●rell Whether I say this apparell thus accounted of by le●rned men the best iudges of decencie be decent comely for a preacher of the Gospell and whether things vncomely should not by Paules doctrine be ab●ndoned the Church 5 Quaere If Maiors Iustices Stageplayers and others may not aswell be inforced to subscribe to the Bi●●ops three articles by the ●●at of 1. ●liz cap. 1. as Ministers seeing the stat vrged by D. Bridges to that purpose doethreach to them aswell as Ministers 6 Quaere If the Bb. that appoint other prayers to be vsed in the Church besides the prayers in the Communion booke doe not o●●ende against their owne articles and the statute of 1. Eli. c. 1. which inioin● that Ministers should vse the forme of publike prayer pres●ribed in that books and no other Itē whether the Bb. thus o●●ending against the stat ought not to deale more mercifully with the ministers who haue offended in like quality 7 Quaere whether the Marcionites did well who as Chrisostome vpon the words what doe they that are baptized for the dead reporteth when any of their Catechumeni or nouices in religion did die had wont to hide one vnder the bed where