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A45460 A reply to the Catholick gentlemans answer to the most materiall parts of the booke Of schisme whereto is annexed, an account of H.T. his appendix to his Manual of controversies, concerning the Abbot of Bangors answer to Augustine / by H. Hammond. Hammond, Henry, 1605-1660. 1654 (1654) Wing H598; ESTC R9274 139,505 188

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be_v deceive_v and_o there_o i_o acknowledge_v infallibility_n upon_o this_o ground_n whether_o of_o nature_n or_o of_o grace_n of_o common_a dictate_v or_o of_o religion_n that_o it_o be_v impossible_a for_o god_n to_o lie_v to_o deceive_v or_o to_o be_v deceive_v but_o that_o the_o whole_a canon_n of_o scripture_n as_o it_o be_v deliver_v to_o we_o by_o the_o laodicean_n council_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n though_o i_o full_o believe_v this_o also_o and_o have_v not_o the_o least_o doubt_n to_o any_o part_n of_o it_o yet_o i_o account_v not_o myself_o infallible_a in_o this_o belief_n nor_o can_v any_o church_n that_o affirm_v the_o same_o unless_o they_o be_v otherwise_o privilege_v by_o god_n be_v infallible_a in_o affirm_v it_o nor_o any_o that_o believe_v that_o church_n be_v infallible_a in_o their_o belief_n and_o as_o that_o privilege_n be_v not_o yet_o prove_v by_o any_o donation_n of_o god_n to_o belong_v to_o any_o church_n particular_o to_o the_o roman_a so_o till_o it_o be_v prove_v and_o prove_v infallible_o it_o can_v be_v no_o competent_a medium_n to_o induce_v any_o new_a act_n of_o infallible_a belief_n the_o want_n of_o which_o may_v denominate_v we_o either_o heretic_n or_o schismatics_n num._n 40_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n this_o be_v certain_a that_o i_o that_o do_v not_o pretend_v to_o believe_v any_o thing_n infallible_o in_o this_o matter_n not_o so_o much_o as_o that_o the_o church_n be_v not_o infallible_a must_v yet_o be_v acknowledge_v to_o believe_v her_o fallible_a or_o else_o i_o can_v not_o by_o this_o gentleman_n be_v adjudge_v a_o schismatic_a for_o so_o believe_v and_o then_o this_o suppose_v that_o i_o may_v believe_v what_o in_o his_o opinion_n i_o believe_v untrue_o that_o sure_o be_v that_o i_o may_v believe_v what_o i_o do_v not_o believe_v infallible_o the_o matter_n be_v visible_a i_o can_v think_v fit_a to_o enlarge_v on_o it_o num._n 41_o one_o thing_n only_o i_o must_v far_o take_v notice_n of_o the_o ground_n which_o he_o here_o have_v on_o which_o he_o find_v his_o exception_n against_o the_o solidity_n of_o my_o discourse_n call_v it_o my_o great_a evidence_n that_o we_o that_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v infallible_a may_v be_v allow_v to_o make_v certain_a supposition_n that_o follow_v there_o num._n 42_o the_o matter_n in_o that_o place_n chap._n ii_o sect._n 12._o lie_n thus_o in_o examine_v the_o nature_n of_o schism_n i_o have_v occasion_n to_o mention_v one_o not_o real_a but_o fiction_n of_o case_n suppose_v first_o that_o our_o ancestor_n have_v criminous_o separate_v from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o suppose_v second_o that_o we_o their_o posterity_n repent_v and_o desire_v to_o reform_v their_o sin_n and_o to_o be_v reunite_v to_o they_o yet_o suppose_v three_o that_o they_o shall_v require_v to_o our_o reunion_n any_o condition_n which_o be_v unlawful_a for_o we_o to_o perform_v in_o this_o conjuncture_n i_o say_v we_o can_v not_o just_o be_v charge_v for_o continue_v that_o separation_n num._n 43_o this_o fiction_n of_o case_n i_o can_v not_o think_v have_v any_o weak_a part_n in_o it_o for_o as_o it_o suppose_v that_o on_o one_o side_n which_o i_o know_v a_o romanist_n will_v not_o grant_v viz_o that_o they_o shall_v require_v any_o condition_n unlawful_a for_o we_o to_o perform_v so_o it_o suppose_v on_o the_o other_o side_n that_o which_o we_o can_v no_o way_n grant_v viz_o that_o our_o ancestor_n criminous_o separate_v but_o this_o i_o know_v be_v ordinary_a to_o be_v do_v in_o fiction_n of_o case_n suppositio_fw-la non_fw-la ponit_fw-la be_v the_o acknowledge_a rule_n my_o suppose_v either_o of_o these_o be_v not_o the_o take_v they_o for_o grant_v and_o yet_o after_o all_o this_o i_o foresee_v that_o objection_n that_o the_o romanist_n who_o acknowledge_v not_o any_o such_o hard_a condition_n require_v to_o our_o reconciliation_n will_v conceive_v this_o a_o impossible_a case_n and_o to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o we_o that_o acknowledge_v not_o their_o church_n to_o be_v infallible_a may_v be_v allow_v to_o make_v a_o supposition_n mean_v as_o before_o a_o fiction_n of_o case_n which_o be_v found_v in_o the_o possibility_n of_o her_o insert_v some_o error_n in_o her_o confession_n and_o make_v the_o acknowledgement_n of_o it_o the_o indispensable_a condition_n of_o her_o communion_n what_o i_o have_v offend_v herein_o i_o can_v imagine_v for_o 1._o i_o only_o set_v a_o fiction_n of_o case_n do_v not_o take_v their_o infallibility_n for_o a_o thing_n confest_o false_a nor_o in_o that_o place_n so_o much_o as_o dispute_v against_o it_o only_o i_o say_v that_o which_o be_v sufficient_o know_v before_o i_o say_v it_o that_o their_o infallibility_n be_v not_o acknowledge_v by_o we_o and_o so_o that_o her_o insert_v some_o error_n in_o her_o confession_n be_v to_o we_o i_o e._n in_o our_o opinion_n a_o thing_n possible_a and_o so_o for_o disputation_n sake_n supposable_a in_o the_o same_o manner_n as_o i_o suppose_v that_o which_o i_o be_o know_v not_o to_o believe_v and_o if_o this_o gentleman_n be_v thus_o severe_a i_o shall_v despair_v to_o approve_v my_o discourse_n to_o he_o num._n 44_o second_o that_o i_o make_v it_o my_o great_a evidence_n be_v not_o with_o any_o appearance_n of_o reason_n suggest_v by_o he_o it_o come_v in_o mere_o as_o a_o incidentall_a last_o branch_n the_o least_o necessary_a most_o unconsiderable_a of_o any_o and_o that_o which_o may_v have_v be_v spare_v then_o or_o leave_v out_o now_o without_o any_o weaken_n of_o or_o disturb_v the_o discourse_n num._n 45_o three_o whereas_o he_o add_v that_o i_o proceed_v to_o make_v certain_a supposition_n that_o follow_v there_o this_o be_v still_o of_o the_o same_o strain_n i_o make_v but_o one_o supposition_n viz_o in_o case_n she_o make_v any_o unlawful_a act_n the_o indispensable_a condition_n of_o her_o communion_n and_o that_o one_o certain_o be_v not_o in_o the_o plural_a more_o or_o indefinite_o certain_a supposition_n num._n 46_o that_o i_o put_v this_o one_o case_n as_o possible_a and_o then_o proceed_v to_o consider_v what_o be_v by_o the_o principle_n acknowledge_v by_o all_o particular_o by_o mr._n knot_n to_o be_v do_v in_o that_o one_o case_n be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o strict_a law_n of_o discourse_n which_o i_o have_v meet_v with_o and_o if_o in_o compliance_n with_o this_o gentleman_n i_o must_v deny_v myself_o such_o liberty_n and_o yet_o yield_v he_o so_o much_o great_a on_o the_o other_o side_n if_o i_o must_v at_o the_o begin_n of_o a_o defence_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v require_v to_o grant_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n infallible_a i._n e._n to_o yield_v not_o only_o that_o she_o speak_v all_o truth_n but_o also_o that_o it_o be_v impossible_a she_o shall_v speak_v any_o thing_n but_o truth_n who_o yet_o by_o enter_v on_o this_o theme_n i_o undertake_v to_o contradict_v and_o to_o prove_v injurious_a in_o censure_v we_o for_o schismatic_n this_o be_v as_o i_o have_v say_v a_o hard_a task_n indeed_o the_o very_a same_o as_o if_o i_o be_v require_v to_o begin_v a_o duel_n by_o present_v and_o deliver_v up_o all_o weapon_n into_o the_o enemy_n hand_n to_o plead_v a_o cause_n and_o introduce_v my_o defence_n by_o confess_v myself_o guilty_a of_o all_o that_o the_o plaintiff_n do_v or_o can_v have_v the_o confidence_n to_o charge_v upon_o i_o num._n 47_o and_o if_o these_o be_v the_o condition_n of_o a_o dispute_n these_o will_v questionless_a be_v hard_a whatsoever_o the_o condition_n of_o our_o reunion_n be_v conceive_v to_o be_v and_o moreover_o this_o gentleman_n will_v be_v as_o infallible_a as_o his_o church_n and_o then_o it_o be_v pity_n he_o shall_v lavish_a out_o medicine_n that_o be_v so_o secure_v by_o charm_n that_o he_o shall_v defend_v his_o cause_n by_o reason_n which_o have_v this_o one_o so_o much_o cheap_a expedient_a to_o answer_v a_o whole_a book_n in_o one_o period_n num._n 48_o and_o so_o much_o for_o his_o animadversion_n on_o this_o second_o chapter_n which_o be_v no_o excellent_a presage_n of_o that_o which_o we_o be_v to_o expect_v in_o the_o ensue_a chap._n iii_o exception_n to_o the_o three_o chapter_n answer_v sect._n i._n the_o division_n of_o schism_n justify_v of_o schism_n against_o the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n of_o unanimity_n of_o belief_n in_o the_o dispersion_n of_o the_o church_n num._n 1_o the_o exception_n against_o the_o three_o chap_n be_v reducible_a to_o 4_o head_n the_o first_o about_o the_o insufficiency_n of_o the_o division_n of_o schism_n in_o these_o word_n num._n 2_o in_o his_o three_o chapter_n what_o be_v chief_o to_o be_v note_v to_o our_o purpose_n be_v that_o his_o division_n be_v insufficient_a for_o he_o make_v schism_n to_o be_v only_o against_o monarchical_a power_n or_o against_o fraternal_a
charity_n which_o be_v very_o much_o beside_o the_o principle_n of_o those_o protestant_n who_o pretend_v so_o much_o to_o the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n i_o think_v he_o shall_v have_v remember_v there_o may_v be_v schism_n against_o conciliatory_a authority_n whether_o this_o be_v call_v so_o when_o the_o council_n actual_o sit_v or_o in_o the_o unanimity_n of_o belief_n in_o the_o dispersion_n of_o the_o church_n so_o that_o the_o doctor_n suppose_v he_o conclude_v against_o the_o pope_n have_v not_o conclude_v himself_o no_o schismatic_n be_v separate_v form_n the_o catholic_n world_n and_o again_o in_o the_o next_o page_n by_o way_n of_o recollection_n or_o second_o thought_n thus_o but_o i_o must_v not_o forget_v here_o what_o i_o omit_v to_o insert_v before_o that_o in_o his_o division_n of_o schism_n he_o omit_v the_o principal_a if_o not_o indeed_o and_o in_o the_o use_n of_o the_o word_n by_o the_o ancient_n the_o only_a schism_n which_o be_v when_o one_o break_v from_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n for_o though_o a_o breach_n make_v from_o the_o immediate_a superior_a or_o a_o particular_a church_n may_v in_o some_o sort_n and_o in_o our_o ordinary_a manner_n of_o speak_v be_v call_v a_o schism_n yet_o that_o by_o which_o one_o break_v away_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v proper_o and_o in_o a_o high_a sense_n call_v schism_n and_o be_v that_o out_o of_o which_o the_o present_a question_n proceed_v whereas_o other_o division_n as_o long_o as_o both_o part_n remain_v in_o communion_n with_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v not_o proper_o schism_n but_o with_o a_o diminutive_a particle_n so_o that_o in_o this_o division_n he_o leave_v out_o that_o part_n which_o appertain_v to_o the_o question_n num._n 3_o my_o division_n of_o schism_n be_v that_o which_o i_o can_v not_o conceive_v subject_a to_o the_o exception_n of_o any_o rational_a man_n of_o what_o persuasion_n soever_o schism_n be_v a_o breach_n of_o unity_n and_o communion_n as_o many_o sort_n as_o be_v conceivable_a of_o unity_n and_o communion_n so_o many_o and_o no_o more_o i_o set_v down_o of_o schism_n some_o as_o breach_n of_o the_o subordination_n which_o christ_n settle_v in_o his_o church_n other_o of_o mutual_a charity_n which_o he_o leave_v among_o his_o disciple_n num._n 4_o for_o be_v it_o not_o evident_a that_o all_o man_n in_o the_o world_n be_v either_o our_o superior_n or_o inferior_n or_o our_o equal_n and_o can_v i_o break_v communion_n with_o any_o as_o long_o as_o be_v a_o inferior_a i_o live_v regular_o under_o all_o my_o superior_n and_o brotherly_a with_o all_o my_o equal_n there_o be_v certain_o no_o place_n of_o doubt_n in_o this_o when_o therefore_o in_o his_o second_o period_n here_o set_v down_o he_o mention_n it_o as_o the_o principal_a and_o in_o the_o ancient_n use_v of_o the_o word_n the_o only_a schism_n when_o one_o break_v from_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n it_o be_v strange_a he_o shall_v think_v that_o man_n be_v not_o comprise_v in_o either_o member_n of_o my_o division_n when_o certain_o he_o be_v guilty_a of_o both_o for_o how_o can_v he_o separate_v from_o the_o whole_a church_n unless_o he_o separate_v both_o from_o his_o superior_n and_o his_o equal_n too_o and_o if_o he_o separate_v from_o both_o then_o questionless_a he_o separate_v from_o one_o and_o from_o more_o than_o one_o of_o they_o num._n 5_o be_v it_o possible_a for_o any_o care_n more_o sollicitous_o to_o have_v prevent_v this_o exception_n than_o that_o which_o by_o i_o be_v use_v when_o among_o the_o branch_n of_o equality_n with_o which_o every_o one_o be_v oblige_v to_o preserve_v unity_n and_o communion_n i_o reckon_v up_o not_o only_o the_o believer_n of_o the_o same_o congregation_n etc._n etc._n but_o the_o several_a community_n of_o christian_a man_n from_o parish_n and_o diocese_n to_o clime_n of_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n chap._n 3._o §_o 5._o and_o indeed_o it_o be_v a_o great_a piece_n of_o austerity_n that_o when_o i_o have_v endeavour_v to_o prove_v that_o we_o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v not_o voluntary_o separate_v and_o that_o only_o be_v the_o crime_n of_o schism_n from_o any_o one_o particular_a church_n and_o no_o one_o of_o those_o proof_n be_v invalidate_v nor_o as_o yet_o so_o much_o as_o except_v against_o it_o shall_v yet_o be_v think_v seasonable_a to_o reply_v that_o we_o have_v break_v off_o from_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n num._n 6_o be_v not_o that_o whole_a make_v up_o of_o these_o several_n as_o a_o body_n of_o limb_n the_o universal_a of_o particular_n and_o can_v the_o hand_n be_v break_v off_o from_o the_o whole_a body_n when_o it_o be_v not_o break_v off_o but_o remain_v in_o perfect_a union_n with_o every_o part_n of_o the_o body_n if_o the_o arm_n be_v break_v from_o the_o body_n the_o hand_n which_o remain_v unite_v to_o the_o arm_n may_v yet_o be_v separate_a from_o the_o whole_a body_n because_o by_o be_v fasten_v to_o the_o arm_n it_o be_v unite_v but_o to_o one_o and_o not_o to_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o body_n but_o a_o union_n to_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o body_n suppose_v a_o separation_n from_o no_o one_o part_n that_o remain_v in_o the_o body_n and_o sure_a that_o must_v be_v a_o union_n with_o the_o whole_a body_n which_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o all_o the_o member_n together_o num._n 7_o and_o so_o as_o his_o second_o thought_n be_v effect_n not_o remedy_n of_o his_o forgetfulness_n the_o very_a same_o which_o he_o have_v mention_v before_o under_o the_o style_n of_o separation_n from_o the_o catholic_n world_n so_o certain_o they_o be_v again_o effect_n of_o his_o inobservance_n that_o his_o principal_a sort_n of_o schism_n separation_n from_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v comprehend_v by_o i_o under_o this_o style_n separation_n from_o the_o several_a community_n of_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n num._n 8_o as_o to_o the_o former_a branch_n of_o his_o exception_n that_o in_o my_o division_n of_o schism_n into_o that_o which_o be_v against_o monarchical_a i_o say_v and_o when_o he_o recite_v my_o word_n he_o shall_v do_v so_o too_o paternal_a power_n and_o that_o which_o be_v against_o fraternal_a charity_n i_o omit_v to_o mention_v the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n it_o be_v evident_o a_o causeless_a suggestion_n for_o 1._o if_o counsel_n as_o he_o say_v have_v any_o authority_n that_o will_v certain_o be_v reducible_a to_o paternal_a power_n and_o if_o they_o have_v none_o any_o far_a than_o by_o way_n of_o counsel_n and_o advice_n that_o will_v direct_o fall_v under_o the_o head_n of_o fraternal_a charity_n num._n 9_o second_o if_o by_o counsel_n he_o mean_v provincial_n counsel_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o power_n which_o several_o belong_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o each_o province_n be_v unite_v in_o that_o of_o a_o provincial_n council_n where_o all_o the_o diocesan_n bishop_n be_v assemble_v and_o the_o despise_n of_o that_o be_v a_o offence_n under_o the_o first_o sort_n of_o schism_n a_o breach_n of_o the_o subordination_n to_o the_o bishop_n yea_o and_o the_o metropolitan_a too_o who_o preside_v in_o the_o provincial_n council_n num._n 10_o so_o again_o if_o he_o mean_v national_n counsel_n the_o power_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o all_o the_o province_n there_o assemble_v divolve_v upon_o this_o assembly_n compound_v of_o all_o of_o they_o the_o despise_v thereof_o be_v the_o despise_n of_o these_o ecclesiastical_a superior_n of_o the_o whole_a nation_n and_o culpable_a and_o schismatical_a upon_o that_o account_n num._n 11_o as_o for_o ecumenical_a or_o general_n counsel_n if_o they_o be_v true_o such_o the_o power_n of_o all_o the_o bishop_n of_o all_o the_o province_n in_o all_o christian_a nation_n divolve_v upon_o that_o and_o so_o can_v be_v despise_v without_o despise_v of_o all_o rank_n of_o our_o ecclesiastical_a superior_n bishop_n metropolitan_o primate_fw-la or_o patriarch_n and_o therefore_o this_o 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