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A27046 A third defence of the cause of peace proving 1. the need of our concord, 2. the impossibility of it, on the terms of the present impositions against the accusations and storms of, viz., Mr. John Hinckley, a nameless impleader, a nameless reflector, or Speculum, &c., Mr. John Cheny's second accusation, Mr. Roger L'Strange, justice, &c., the Dialogue between the Pope and a fanatic, J. Varney's phanatic Prophesie / by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1681 (1681) Wing B1419; ESTC R647 161,764 297

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of a Bill for Accommodation Octavo price 2 s. The Narrative of Rob. Bolron of Shippon-hall Gent. concerning the late horrid Polish Plot and Conspiracy for the Destruction of His Majesty and the Protestant Religion Wherein is contained 1. His Informations upon Oath before His Majesty in Council and before several Justices of the Peace of the said Design and the means by which he arrived at the knowledge thereof 2. Some particular Applications made to himself to assist those design'd in the murdering of his Majesty the persons by whom such Applications were made and the Reward promised 3. The project of the Popish party to Erect a Nunnery at Dolebanck near Ripely in Yorkshire together with the Names of some Nuns actually design'd for that Imployment and taking the Profession upon them As also an Account of a certain Estate of 90 l. per annum given by Sir Thomas Gascoigne to the Nunnery for ever With other remarkable Passages relating to the horrid Piot Together with an Account of the Endeavours that were used by the Popish party to stifle his Evidence The Narrative of Lawrence Mowbray of Leeds in the County of York Gent. concerning the bloody Popish Conspiracy against the Life of his Sacred Majesty the Government and the Protestant Religion Wherein is contained 1. His knowledge of the said Design from the very first in the Year 1676 with the Opportunity he had to be acquainted therewith and the Reasons why he concealed it so long with the manner of his discovering the said wicked Project to his Majesty and his most honourable Privy Council 2. How far Sir Thomas Gascoigne Sir Miles Stapleton c. are ingaged in the Design of Killing the King and Fireing the City of London and York for the more speedy setting uppermost the Popish Religion in England 3. An Account of the Assemblings of many Popish Priests and Jesuits at Father Rishton's Chamber at Sir Gascoigue's house at Barmebow with their Consultations and Determinations with other considerable matters relating to the Plot. Together with an account of the Endeavours that were used to stifle his Evidence by making an Attempt upon his Life in Leicester Fields price 6 d. A Memento for the English Protestants c. with an Answer to that part of the Compendium which reflects on the Bishop of Lincoln's late Book Quarto price stitcht 6 d. Naked Truth the first part Being the true state of the Primitive Church By an humble Moderator price stitcht one shilling Causa Dei Or an Apology for God wherein the perpetuity of Insernal Torments is evinced and Divine Goodness and Justice that notwithstanding defended c. By Richard Burthogge M. D. Tulli's elect Orations Gouge's Works Octavo Horrid Popish Plot in a Pack of Cards A second Pack continuing a Representation of their Villainous Design from the publication of the first Pack to the last Sessions of Parliament begun Octob. 21. 1680. AN ANSVVER TO M R. HINCKLEY SIR I Have perused yours I think Impartially and to tell you my Judgment of it I perceive is like to offend you more I find it is natural to men to desire to be thought to be in the right and to have said well and done well be it never so ill It is some Honour to Truth and Goodness that the Names and Reputation of them seem desirable to those that cannot endure the things yea that the Things are never loathed or opposed formally as such but for their opposition to somewhat that is more loved And it is some help to the depression of Falshood and Sin that it is ashamed of its own Name and cannot endure to see its own Face which hath ever inclined it to break the Glass though to its greater shame when every piece will shew that ugliness which was shewed but by the whole before If nothing else had notified it to us one might have strongly suspected that you are of that Tribe who take themselves to be persecuted when they may not domineer and when others may but Preach and live without their Consent by your excessive tenderness and impatience calling it Poyson Hornets and abundance of such smarting angry Names if a man that is cast out of God's Vineyard as well as his Maintenance among many hundreds more do but plainly in a private Letter speak for himself and shew the injustice of your Printed Accusations O! that you were all but the thousandth part as tender I will not say of your Brethrens sufferings but of the danger of many thousand perishing starved Souls I shall only tell you this much in general that I now perceive you are used but for a Temptation to me to lose my time by the neglect of better Work And that you do so notoriously bawk the Truth and hide Untruth in a heap of Confident Rhetorical Flourishes that while you are of this temperament I will not undertake to prove to you that Two and Two are Four 1. My Beginning was taken from your Ending where you wrote You will satisfie your self as little as you will do others And what others Mind know you better than your own And sure that which satisfieth not you doth you no good as to its proper end what ever it may do by accident some other way Yet it seems you forgot that you had written this and that was warrant enough for all your confident Impertinencies on that occasion Sandy foundations light and darkness Hornets Nests rushing into the midst of the Pikes waking Dragons the golden Fleece c. come all in upon this your oversight And you seem to think that you have acquit your self well 2. You tell me of bringing the Controversie to an issue by dint of Scripture whether you sin in Conforming Is this fairly done to pretend that to be the Controversie which I never undertook to meddle with Could you possibly forget 1. That You were the Plaintiff and Accuser in Print not content that your Brethren were forbidden to Preach Christ and that many of them live in great poverty and want You wrote a Book of reproachful Oratory with no strength of Argument worthy an Answer to make them seem the flagitious Causes of their own silence and sufferings Against which they that meddled not with you had nothing to do but to justifie themselves 2. That in this Book you vehemently importune me who never knew you nor meddled with you to give the World the Reasons of my Non-conformity 3. That hereupon the Question that I treated about with you was How I may have leave to do it And whether it be ingenious thus publickly to urge me to that which you know I cannot do This was all the Controversie I had with you I tell you again I would go on my knees to any Bishop in England to procure but License for my self alone much more my Brethren to Write and Print the Reasons of our Non-conformity after Nine years Silence Suffering and Accusation that the World and Posterity may but once hear us
Doctrine Worship or Religious Ministration for the Ministration of the word and Sacraments and Keys is already appointed by Christ And the Office or Order is specified by the work and terminus and a new Office hath new work But in the same species of Religious Ministration there are abundance of accidentals and circumstances and Princes or consenting Churches may give men power in those accordingly But not to forbid what Christ commanded nor destroy the works and power of his Institution And if they that are for other superiour or co-ordinate species of Church-power besides what is afore-granted say that it is a lawful humane Ordinance 1. Those that say Princes only may make it confess the Church had none that was lawful for three hundred years And they must prove the Commission 2. Those that say the Inferiour Bishops made it by consent 1. feign Inferiours to have power to make a power above their own which is more than for Presbyters to ordain their like 2. Why may not Archbishops then make Patriarks and they a Pope ad summum ascendendo 3. They must prove their power and that they are so far equal to Apostles who yet were but to teach the Nations what Christ commanded them which these Men know not but by the Scripture 4. What Man maketh Man may unmake And how came we to be less free than our Ancestors that made such Offices XLI In my Book of Concord where this is granted yet I say that let Church-Patriarchs Metropolitans Primates Archbishops or Diocesans like ours that have no Bishops under them be never so probably maintained to be lawful yea and desirable yet the uniting in them by consent and approbation will never become the terms or way of Universal Concord which I have fully proved even all that is true and good will never be the terms of Universal Concord nor just Christian Communion much less that which hath so much matter of doubt and great suspition of evil But I will live in Christian love peace and submission my self on terms uncapable of common concord or my own approbation of the things as imposed or done by all others XLII Lay-Chancellours may do what belongeth to a Magistrate but not use the Church-Keyes nor be the Church-Judges of Mens Communion because Christ hath Instituted the Sacred Office for it XLIII A Church is Ens Politicum in the sense in hand and the form of it is Relative in the predicament of Relation XLIV The parts of the Universal Church are similar and dissimilar more simple or more compound And the word whole applyed to a part disproveth not its being a part of the whole Christian world or Church A whole hand foot head c. is part of a whole Body and a whole Body part of a whole Man and a whole Man part of a whole Family and a whole Family part of a whole street and that of a whole City and that of a whole County or Kingdom A whole Colledge of a whole University c. All Members save Souls and Atomes are compounds XLV When we call all the Christian world The Catholick Church and call e. g. Hippo A or the Catholick Church the word Catholick and The are not univocal In the later we mean only The Church at Hippo which holds the true Catholick Faith and is a true part of the Catholick Church in the first sense Penuria nominum necessaria reddit aequivoca XLVI Particular Churches are Visible in the Regent and Governed parts The Universal Church is Visible in the Governed part and in the Head only so far as he was once on Earth and is now visible in Heaven his Court and will be visible at last to all and ruleth by visible Laws but not as a Head now visible on Earth nor is this any deformity to his Church nor any reason why it may not be called Visible as I have fully proved in two Books against W. Johnson alias Terret XLVII Those that deny an Universal Visible Church differ only de nowine not de re They only deny any Universal Regent power Monarchical or Aristocratical or Democratical under Christ but I know no Christian that ever denyed the fore-described XLVIII Forma dat esse Divers constitutive forms or specifying differences make divers Essences Therefore the form of a Troop being the Captains Government differs from the form of a Regiment which is the Colonels Governing Relation and both from the forms of the Army which is the Generals The formal Essence of a Colledge is divers from that of an University and of a Family from a Corporation or City and that from a Kingdom And as forma dat nomen they have divers names A Family quatalis is not a Kingdom c. Reader forgive the mention of these things which Children know and till now I never read or heard any man deny or question In that which followeth you shall see the Reasons that excuse me CHAP. III. What Mr. Cheyney saith against these things And 1. Of Church-Forms and Essence § 1. THough it tempt me not to Conformity as the way of Concord where I see the great difference of such as plead for it amongst themselves yet I must do that right to the Conformists as to tell the world that they must not be judged of by Mr. Ch 's opinions and that I know no other Conformist or Non-conformist of his mind about Church-Forms § 2. But I must add that his Case doth increase my Conviction against himself and them that their Conformity is so far from being the necessary Cement that it is utterly destructive of it as so imposed and that it must be on few plain necessary things that common concord must be held or we must have none Mr. Ch. thinks me one who may be endured in the Ministry and I think so by him and yet how far easier and plainer than our Controversies of Conformity are those things in which we differ to the height of his following Accusations If none should be endured that cannot Covenant Swear Subscribe Declare and Practice as is required how much less can such as he and I be endured in one Church if we differ as he saith we do O what pardon and forbearance doth our peace require § 3. Of Church-Forms and Essence hear some of his Judgment Pag. 3. The several Congregations and Assemblies of Pastors and People throughout the Kingdom are not limbs and parcels of a Church but they are so many Churches consisting of a Pastor Governing and people governed joyning together in publick worship It is called the Church of England as all the Christian Pastors and people throughout the world are called the Universal Church One Church of which Christ is the transcendent Head I do not see but it is proper to call all the Christian Pastors and people of England One Church P. 6. Christ is the Head of the Church of England and under Christ all the Parish-Ministers are subordinate Guides and Rulers of their Flocks