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A83496 Speeches and passages of this great and happy Parliament: from the third of November, 1640, to this instant June, 1641. Collected into one volume, and according to the most perfect originalls, exactly published. England and Wales. Parliament.; Mervyn, Audley, Sir, d. 1675.; Pym, John, 1584-1643.; Strafford, Thomas Wentworth, Earl of, 1593-1641. 1641 (1641) Wing E2309; Thomason E159_1; ESTC R212697 305,420 563

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and so perplext with the thoughts to miseries into which I finde my selfe plunged and besides the departure of the messenger that carried those letters was so suddaine that it was not possible to perform this dutie to your Lordship sooner For the which I do most humbly crave pardon your Lordship may now please to accept the expressions from the saddest and most wounded soule in the whole World who am a spectacle of misery in my selfe in my distressed Wife and Children and in my whole fortunes who have left the attending of my Soveraigne and Master and accesse to the best Prince in the world who am become a scorne and by-word to all the world both at home and abroad a wanderer an Exile from mine own Country now in the declination of my years and likely to end my dayes in a remote Country and far from the comfort of all my friends What I am guilty of none knows so well as his Majesty whom I have served faithfully diligently painfully and with as true and loyall an heart according to my poore abilities as any other whatsoever and if I found my Conscience charged with any crime of basenesse corruption infidelity or any thing else unworthy of a Gentleman I should not venture to addresse these complaints to your Lordship or to any other person of Honour in this disconsolate estate being an object not altogether unworthy of your Lordships compassion be it for no other respect but that I have long served the King and Queens Majesties I doubt not but your Lordship in your generosity and goodnesse will have a lively sense and f●●ling of my sufferings and vouchsafe me such reliefe as in your Honour you may and if my self who by course of Nature cannot be now of long continuance be not considerable I most humbly beseech your Lordship to have pity upon my poore innocent wife and children that they receive such comfort and assistance from you in my absence that they may be preserved from perishing And to that end I most humbly crave your Lordships favour to this Bearer my Sonne and to give him the honour of accesse whensoever he shall make his addresses to you wherein you shall doe a worke of singular charity and because there is an opinion in the world that I have much improved my fortunes by the Romane party and there hath beene some designe by my ministery to introduce Popery into England I shall most humbly crave your Lordships patience in giving me leave to clear those two great misunderstandings which if they were true were sufficient to render me uncapable of his Majesties favours or of the compassion of any person of honour whatsoever For the first it is notorious to all the world that having now served his Majestie in the place of a Secretary above eight years I have not added one foot of Land to the inheritance left me by my father which in Land and Lease was not above 500. pounds per annum a poore and inconsiderable estate for a Secretary and such an one as most Secretaries have more than trebled in a short time for my manner of living it hath been much under the dignity of a Secretary and if I had not been very frugall I could not have subsisted where then this concealed Masse of Treasurie is I wish those that speak so liberally of it would let me know for I doe protest to God I am utterly to seek where to discover it and at this present I am so unfurnished with monies that if his Majestie cause me not to be supplied I am unable to subsist in these parts without exposing my Family in England to the danger of starving and yet neither my purpose nor inclination is to live otherwise here than in the greatest obscurity and closenesse that possibly I may I assure your Lordship that those of the Roman party that passed my hands by his Majesties commandement were poore distressed creatures and farre from being able to inrich me and besides how little I have attended my own private and how freely and like a Gentleman I hope I may speak the truth without ostenation I have done curtesies to all I wish it should rather appeare by the testimonie of such as have made use of my services then by mine own My Father and I have served the Crown of England neare 80. years together in which time if a greater estate had been raised it might well have been justified confidering the great imployments neer the persons of Queen Elizabeth King James and his Majesty that now is we both have had and your Lordship may believe it for I avow it upon the faith of a Christian that it is no more then I have above mentioned and whether there are not many from lesse imployments have risen to be Noblemen and made their fortunes accordingly I leave to the world to judge For the other suspition of my being a favourer or an advancer of Popery I protest before the Almighty God and as I shall answer at the last dreadfull day that I know no ground for the least suspition thereof neither am I my selfe nor is any other to my knowledge guilty of the least thought of any such purpose For my self I received my Baptisme in the Church of England and I know nothing in the Church of Rome that can win me from that Church wherein I was made a Christian I doe therefore hold this Church of England not onely a true and Orthodox Church but the most pure and neer the primitive of any in the Christian world and this I will be ready to seale with my blood whensoever there shall be occasion with this further protestation that if I did not hold it so I would not continue in it for any worldly respects whatsoever For that which hath passed my hands for favor of that party it hath been meerly ministeriall as his Majesty best knows and I must be bold to say that his Majesty hath not been deceived by it but hath received many greater advantages besides that if a Secretary of State should not hold intelligence with the party is absolute to disable him for the service of the State and that hath been done alwaies more or lesse and so must alwaies continue Kings and their Ministers of State have ever had and might ever have a Latitude according to time and occasion and cannot be so tied according to strictnesse of law as others are without perill to the government therefore when the Roman party were practique and busie about the State there was reason to be more strict but now by the wisedome of the Queen and her good Officers they are better tempered lesse severity hath been used it being the prerogative of the Prince to use moderation according to accusation further than this I have not had to doe with the Roman party nor thus far but in obedience to my Masters commandement which I hope shall not be censured a crime this being my condition I most humbly
Speaker who can frame an argument aright unlesse he can tell against what he is to argue Would you confute the Convocation-house they were a holy Synod they were Commissioners will you dispute their Commission they will mingle all power together and perhaps answer they were something else that we neither knew nor imagined unlesse they would unriddle themselves and owne what they were wee may prosecute non-concludent Arguments Mr. Speaker I have conferred with some of the Founders of those Canons but I professe here that I could never meet with any one of that assembly who could well answer to that first question of the Catechisme What is your name Alas they were parted before they knew what they were when they were together The summe of all the severall answers that I have received do all together amount unto this They were a Convocationall Synodicall Assembly of Commissioners Indeed a threefold Chaemera a Monster to our Lawes a Cerberus to our Religion A strange Commission where no Commissioners name is to be found A strange Convocation that lived when the Parliament was dead A strange holy Synod when the one part never saw nor conferred with the other But indeed there needed no conference if it be true of these Cannons which I read of the former Quis nescit Canones Lambethae formari priusquam in Synode ventilentur Well Mr. Speaker they have Innovated upon us wee may say it is Lex talionis to Innovate upon them and so I hope we shortly shall doe In the meane time my humble motion is that every member of that assembly who voted their Cannons may come severally to the Barre of this House with a Book of Cannons in his hand and there unlesse he can answer that Catechisme question as I called it better then I expect he can conceptis verbis in such expresse termes as this honourable house shall then think fit he shall abjure his owne Issue and be commanded to give fire to his owne Canons And this motion I take to be just The fourth Speech of Sir Edward Deering Concerning the Arch-Bishop and divers other Grievances Mr. Speaker YEsterday we did regulate the most important businesse before us and gave them motion so that our great and weighty affaires are now on their feet in their progresse journying on towards their several periods where some I hope will finde their latest home Yet among all these I observe one a very maine one to sleepe sine die give me leave to awaken it it is a businesse of an immense weight and worth such as deserves our best care and most severe circumspection I meane the Grand Petition long since given in by many thousand Citizens against the domineering Clergy Wherein for my part although I cannot approve of all that is presented unto you yet I do clearely professe that a great part of it nay the greatest part thereof is so well grounded that my heart goes cheerefully along therewith It seemes that my Countrey for which I have the honour to serve is of the same minde and least you should thinke that all faults are included within the walls of Troy they will shew you Iliacos intra muros peccatur extrae The same grievances which the City groanes under are provinciall unto us and I much feare they are Nationall among us all The pride the avarice the ambition and oppression by our ruling Clergie is Epidemicall it hath infected them all There is not any or scarce any of them who is not practicall in their own great cause in hand which they impiously doe mis call the Piety of the times but in truth so wrong a Piety that I am bold to say In facinus jurasse putes Here in this Petition is the disease represented here is the cure intreated The number of your Petitioners is considerable being above five and twenty hundred names and would have been foure times as many if that were thought materiall The matter in the Petition is of high import but your Petitioners themselves are all of them quiet and silent at their owne houses humbly expecting and praying the resolution of this great Senate upon these their earnest and thrice hearty desires Here is no noyse no numbers at your doore they will be neither your trouble nor your jealousie for I doe not know of any one of them this day in the towne so much they doe affie in the justice of their Petition and in the goodnesse of this house If now you want any of them here to make avowance of their Petition I am their servant I doe appeare for them and for my selfe and am ready to avow this Petition in their names and in my owne Nothing doubting but fully confident that I may justly say of the present usage of the Hierarchy in the Church of England as once the Pope Pope Adrian as I remember said of the Clergy in his time A vertice capitis ad plantam pedis nihil est sanum in toto ordine Ecclesiastico I beseech you read the Petition regard us and relieve us Master BAGSHAWES Speech in Parliament Febr. 9 th 1640. Concerning Episcopacy and the London Petition Mr. Speaker I Was yesterday and the time before for the retaining of the London Petition and am in the same minde still and therefore doe now rise up against the proposall of that question which is now called for Whether Episcopacy it selfe be to be taken into consideration by the Committee wherein I doe distinguish of a twofold Episcopacy the first in Statu puro as it was in the Primitive times the second in Statu corrupto as it is at this day and is so intended and meant in the London Petition Now I hold that Epistopacy in this latter sence is to be taken into consideration as a thing that trencheth not onely upon the right and liberties of the Subject of which I shall have occasion to speake hereafter But as it is now it trencheth upon the Crowne of England in these foure particulars wherein in I know this House will willingly heare me First it is maintained by the Bishop of Exeter in a Booke which he hath writ to this purpose that Episcopacy it selfe both in the office and in the jurisdiction is de Iure Divino of Divine right which position is directly contrary to the Lawes of England of which I will cite but two or three in stead of many more The Statute of Carlisle 35. Ed. 1. mentioned in Caudries case in the fifth Report saith that the Church of England is founded in the state of Prelacie by the Kings of England and their Progenitors Which likewise appeares by the first Chapter in Magna Charta in these words Concessimus Deo Ecclesiae Anglicanae omnes libertates c. and in the twentie fifth yeare of Edward the third in the French Roll which I have seene there the Archbishop and Clergie petition the King for their liberties in these words thus Englished That for the reverence of God and
to the Lord Conttington then present said That this was a poynt worthy his Lordships consideration 27 That in or about the Moneth of August last he was made Lieutenant Generall of all his Majesties Forces in the Northerne parts against the Scots and being at York did in the Moneth of September by his owne authority and without any lawfull warrant impose a Taxe on his Majesties Subjects in the County of Yorke of eight pence per●iem for maintenance of every Souldier of the Trayned bands of that County which Summes of money hee caused to bee leavied by force And to the end to compell his Majesties Subjects out of feare and terrour to yeeld to the payment of the same He did declare that hee would commit them that refused the payment thereof and the Souldiers should be satisfied out of their estates and they that refused it were in very little better condition than of High Treason 28 That in the Moneth of September and October last he the said Earle of Strafford being certesild of the Scottish Army comming into the Kingdome and hee the said Earle of Strafford being Lieutenant Generall of his Majesties Armie did not provide to the defence of the Towne of New-Castle as he ought to have done but suffred the same to be lost that so hee might the more incence the English against the Scots And for the same wicked purpose and out of a malicious desire to ingage the Kings kingdoms of England and Scotland in a Nationall and bloody Warre he did write to the Lord Conway the Generall of the Horse and under the said Earles command that hee should fight with the Scottish Army at the passage over the Tyne whatsoever should follow notwithstanding that the said Lord Conway had formerly by Letters informed him the said Earle that his Majesties Armie then under his command was not of force sufficient to encounter the Scots by which advice of his hee did contrary to the duty of his place betray his Majesties Armie then under his command to apparent danger and losse All and every which Words Counsells and Actions of the said Earle of Strafford traiterously and contrary to his allegeance to our Soveraigne Lord the King and with an intention and endeavour to alienate and withdraw the hearts and affections of the Kings Liege people of all his Realmes from his Majesty and to set a division betweene them and to ruine and destroy his Majesties said Kingdomes For which they doe further impeach him the said Thomas Earle of Strafford of High Treason against our Soveraigne Lord the King his Crowne and Dignity The Earle of Bristowes Speech the 7th of Decemb. 1640. MAY this dayes Resolution be as happy as the Proposition which now moves me to rise seasonable and necessary for whether wee shall looke upon the King or the people it did never more behoove us the great Physitian the Parliament to effect a true consent towards all parts than now This debate carries with it a double aspect towards the Soveraigne and towards the Subject though both innocent both injured both to be cured In the representation of Injuries I shall crave your attention In the Cures I shall beseech your equall cares and better Iudgements surely in the greatest humility I speake it their illegall wayes are works and punishments of indignation The raising of Leavies strengthened by Commission with un-heard of instructions the billiting of Souldiers and by Lieutenants and their Deputies without leave have beene as if they would have perswaded Princes nay worlds the right of Empire had beene had to take away what they please by strong hands and they have endeavoured as farre as it was possible for them to doe it This hath not beene done by the King under the pleasing shade of whose Crowne I hope we shall ever gather the fruits of Iustice but the Projectors have extended the Prerogative of the King beyond the limits which mars that sweete harmony They have rent from us the light of our eyes enforced Companies of guests upon us worse than the Ordinary of France vitiated of wives and daughters before our faces brought the Crowne to greater want than ever it was by anticipating the Revenue And can the shepheard be thus smitten and the sheepe not scattered They have introduced a Privie Councell ravishing at once the spheares of all ancient government imprisoning without Bayle or Bond. They have taken from us what shall I say indeed what have they left us All meanes of supplying the King and ingratiating our selves with him taking the rootes of all propriety which if it be seasonably set into the ground by his owne hand we shall have instead of beauty baldnesse To the making of them whole I shall apply my selfe and propound a remedy to all these diseasis by one and the same thing Hath King and People beene hurt and by one and the same thing must they be cured to vindicate what new things no our ancient sober vitall libertie by reinforming our ancient Lawes made by our Ancestors by setting such a Charter upon them as no licentious spirits should dare hereafter to enter upon them And shall wee thinke that a way to breake a Parliament no our desires are modest and just I speake truely both for the interest of the King and people if we enjoy not this it will bee impossible to relieve him Therefore let us feare they shall not bee accepted by his goodnesse Therefore I shall discend unto my motions which consists of foure parts two of which have relation to the persons two to the properties of goods For the persons the freedome of them from imprisonment and from imployment abroad contrary to the ancient customes for our goods that no leavies be made but in Parliament Secondly no billiting of Souldiers It is most necessary that these be resolved that the subject be secured in both Then the manner in the second place be fit to det-ermine it by a grand Committee Mr. MAINARDS Speech before both Houses in Parliament on Wednesday 24 th of March in reply upon the Earle of Straffords answer to his Articles at the Barre My Lords I Shall repeat little of that which hath beene said onely this That whereas my Lord of Strafford did answer to many particulars yet hee did not answer to that which was particularly objected against him that is that you were to heare the complaints of the whole Kingdome now the particular of our aime is to take off the vizard which my Lord hath put on wherein the truth and honour which is due to his Majestie he would attribute to himselfe My Lords there is one thing which I desire your Lordships to remember it being the maine of our complaints The alteration of the face of government and tradacing of his owne Lawes and this is the burthen upon all the Lords and Commons of Ireland Concerning the breach of Parliament he would put it on Sir George Ratcliffe but i●me sure he cannot put off himselfe for Sir George
manifold and grosse superstitions and idolatries and to be repugnant to the Doctrine Discipline and order of our Reformation to the confession of faith constitutions of generall Assemblies and Acts of Parliament establishing the true Religion that this also was Canterburies worke we make manifest By the memoirs and instructions sent unto him from our Prelates wherein they gave a speciall account of the diligence they had used to do all which herein they were enjoyned by the approbation of the Service booke sent to them and of all the marginall corrections wherein it varieth from the English book shewing their desire to have some few things changed in it which notwithstanding was not granted This we finde written by Saint Androis own hand and subscribed by him and nine other of our Prelates By Canterburies owne letters witnesses of his joy when the booke was readie for the Presse of his prayers that God would speed the worke of the hope to see that Service set up in Scotland of his diligence to send for the Printer and directing him to prepare a black letter and to send it to his servants at Edinburgh for printing this booke Of his approbation of his proofes sent from the Presse Of his feare of delay in bringing the worke speedily to an end for the great good not of that Church but of the Church Of his encouraging Rosse who was entrusted with the Presse to go on in this peece of service without feare of enemies All which may be seen in the Autographs and by letters sent from the Prelate of London to Rosse wherein as he rejoyceth at the sight of the Scottish Canons which although they should make some noise at the beginning yet they would be more for the good of the Kirk than the Canons of Edinburgh for the good of the Kingdom So concerning the Leiturgy he sheweth that Rosse had sent to him to have an explanation from Canterbury of some passage of the Service booke and that the Presse behoved to stand till the explanation come to Edinburgh which therefore he had in haste obtained from his Grace and sent the dispatch away by Canterburies own conveyance But the booke it selfe as it standeth interlined margined and patcht up is much more than all that is expressed in his letters and the changes and supplements themselves taken from the Masse-booke and other Romish Ritualls by which he maketh it to vary from the Booke of England are more pregnant testimonies of his popish spirit and wicked intentions which he would have put in execution upon us then can be denied The large declaration professeth that all the variation of our booke from the booke of England that ever the King understood was in such things as the Scottish humour would better comply with than with that which stood in the English Service These popish innovations therefore have been surreptitiously inserted by him without the Kings knowledge and against his purpose Our Scottish Prelates do petition that something may be abated of the English ceremonies as the Crosse in Baptisme the Ring in Marriage and some other things But Canterbury will not only have these kept but a great many more and worse superadded which was nothing else but the adding of fewell to the fire To expresse and discover all would require a whole booke we shall only touch some few in the matter of the Communion This book inverteth the ordor of the Communion in the book of England as may be seen by the numbers setting down the orders of this new Communion 1.5.2.6.7.3.4.8.9.10.15 Of the divers secret reasons of this change we mention one only in joyning the spirituall praise and thanksgiving which is in the book of England pertinently after the Communion with the prayer of Consecration before the Communion and that under the name of memorable or oblation for no other end but that the memoriall and sacrifice of praise mentioned in it may be understood according to the popish meaning Bellar. de Missae lib. 2. cap. 21. Not of the spirituall sacrifice but of the oblation of the body of the Lord. It seemeth to be no great matter that without warrant of the book of England the Presbter going from the North end of the Tabls shall stand during the time of Consecration at such a part of the Table where he may with the more ease and decencie use both hands yet being tryed it importeth much as that he must stand with his hinder parts to the people representing sayth Durand that which the Lord sayd of Moses Thou shalt see my hinder parts He must have the use of both his hands not for any thing he hath to do about the bread and wine for that may be done at the North end of the Table and be better seen of the people but as we are taught by the Rationalists that he may be stretching forth his arms to represent the extension of Christ on the Crosse and that he may the more conveniently lift up the bread and wine above his head to be seen and adored of the people who in the Rubrick of the generall Confession a little before are directed to kneel humbly on their knees that the Priests elevation so magnified in the Masse and the peoples adoration may go together That in this posture speaking with a low voyce and muttering for sometimes he is commanded to speak with a lowd voyce and distinctly he be not heard by the people which is no lesse a mocking of God and his people then if the words were spoken in an unknown language As there is no word of all this in the English Service so doth the booke in King Ed. time give to every Presbyter his liberty of gesture which yet gave such offence to Bucer the censurer of the book and even in Cassanders own judgement a man of great moderation in matters of this kinde that he calleth them Nunquam satis execrandos Misse gestus and would have them to be abhorred because they confirm to the simple and superstitious ter impiam exitialem Misse fiduciam The corporall presence of Christs body in the Sacrament is also to be found here for the words of the Mass-book serving to this purpose which are sharply censured by Bucer in King Ed. Leiturgy and are not to be found in the book of England are taken in here Almighty God is incalled that of his Almighty goodnesse he may vouchsafe so to blesse and sanctifie with his Word and Spirit these gifts of bread and wine that they may be unto us the body and bloud of Christ The change here is made the worke of Gods omnipotencie the words of the Masse ut fiant nobis are translated in King Edwards booke That they may be unto us which are againe turned into Latine by Alesius ut fiant nohis On the other part the expressions of the booke of England at the delivery of the Elements of feeding on Christ by faith and of eating and drinking in remembrance that Christ dyed for
and Liberties were of late more pressing than we were able to bear That our Complaints and Supplications for redresse were answered at last with the terrors of an Army That after a pacification greater preparations were made for war whereby many Acts of Hostility were done against us both by Sea and Land The Kingdome wanted administration of Justice and we constrained to take Arms for our defence That we were brought to this extreme and intolerable necessity either to maintain divers Armies upon our Borders against Invasion from England or Ireland still to be deprived of the benefit of all the Courts of Justice and not onely to maintain so many thousands as were spoyled of their ships and goods but to want all Commerce by Sea to the undoing of Merchants of Saylors and many other who lived by Fishing and whose Callings are upholden from hand to mouth by Sea trade Any one of which evils is able in a short time to bring the most potent Kingdome to Confusion Ruine and Desolation how much more all the three at one time combined to bring the Kingdome of Scotland to be no more a Kingdome Yet all these behoved We either to endure and under no other hope than of the perfect slavery of our selves and our posterity in our souls Lives and means Or to resolve to come into England not to make any Invasion or with any purpose to fight except we were forced God is our Judge our actions are our witnesses and England doth now acknowledge the truth against all suspicions to the contrary and against the impudent lies of our enemies but for our relief defence and preservation which we could finde by no other means when we had essayed all means and had at large expressed our pungent and pressing necessities to the Kingdome and Parliament of England Since therefore the war on our part which is no other but our coming into England with a Guard is defensive and all men do acknowledge that in common equity the defendant should not be suffered to perish in his just and necessary defence but that the persuer whether by way of Legall processe in the time of Peace or by way of violence and unjust invasion in the time of war ought to bear the charges of the defendant We trust that your Lordships will think that it is not against reason for us to demand some reparation of this kinde and that the Parliament of England by whose wisedome and justice we have expected the redresse of our wrongs will take such course as both may in reason give us satisfaction and may in the notable demonstration of their Justice serve most for their own honour Our earnestnesse in following this our Demand doth not so far wrong our fight and make us so undiscerning as not to make a difference between the Kingdome and Parliament of England which did neither discerne nor set forward a Warre against us And that prevalent faction of Prelates and Papists who have moved every stone against us and used all sorts of means not onely their Counsells Subsidies and Forces but their Church Canons and Prayers for our utter ruine which maketh them obnoxious to our just accusations and guilty of all the losses and wrongs which this time past we have sustained Yet this we desire your Lordships to consider That the States of the Kingdome of Scotland being assembled did endeavour by their Declarations Informations and Remonstrances and by the proceedings of their Commissioners to make known unto the Councell Kingdome and Parliament of England and to forewarn them of the mischief intended against both Kingdomes in their Religion and Liberties by the Prelates and papists to the end that our Invasion from England might have been prevented if by the prevalency of the faction it had been possible And therefore we may now with the greater reason and confidence presse our Demand that your Lordships the Parliament the Kingdome and the King himself may see us repaired in our losses at the cost of that faction by whose means we have sustained so much dammage And which except they repent we finde sorrow recompenced for our grief torments for our toyl and an infinite greater losse for the Temporall losses they have brought upon a whole Kingdome which was dwelling by them in peace All the devices and doings of our common enemies were to bear down the truth of Religion and the just liberties of the Subjects in both Kingdomes They were confident to bring this about one of two wayes Either by blocking us up by Sea and Land to constrain us to admit their will for a law both in Church and Policy and thus to make us a precedent for the like misery in England or by their Invasion of our Kingdome to compell us furiously and without order to break into England That the two Nations once entred into a bloody Warre they might fish in our troubled waters and catch their desired prey But as we declared before our coming We trusted that God would turn their wisedome into foolishnesse and bring their devices upon their own pares by our Intentions and Resolutions to come into England as among our Brethren in the most peaceable way that could stand with our safety in respect of our common enemies to present our petitions for setling our peace by a Parliament in England wherein the intentions and actions both of our adversaries and ours might be brought to light The Kings Majesty and the Kingdome right informed The Authors and Instruments of our divisions and troubles punished All the mischiefs of a Nationall and doubtfull warre prevented and Religion and Liberty with greater peace and amity than ever before established against all the craft and violence of our enemies This was our Declaration before we set our England from which our deportments since have not varied And it hath been the Lords wonderfull doing by the wise counsels and just proceedings of the Parliament to bring it in a great part to passe and to give us lively hopes of a happy conclusion And therefore we will never doubt but that the Parliament in their wisedom and iustice will provide that a proportionable part of the cost and charges of a work so great and so comfortable to both Nations be born by the Delinquents there that with the better conscience the good people of England may sit under their own Vines and Fig-trees refreshing themselves although upon our great pains and hazard yet not altogether upon our cost and charges which we are not able to bear The Kingdome of England doth know and confesse that the innovation of religion and liberties in Scotland were not the principall designe of our common enemies but that both in the intention of the workers whose zeal was hottest for setling their devices at home and in the condition so the work making us whom they conceived to be the weaker for opposition to be nothing else but a leading case for England And that although by the power of God which
crime goes not beyond the person that commits it nor can anothers fault be mine offence If they have contracted any filth or corruption through their own or the vice of the times cleanse and purge them thorowly But still remember the great difference between reformation and extirpation And he pleased to think of your Triennall Bill which will save you this labour for the time to come fear of punishment will keep them in order if they should not themselves through the love of vertue I have now my Lords according to my poor ability both shewed the conveniences and answered those inconveniences that seem to make against them I should now propose those that make for them As their falling into a condition worse than slaves not represented by any and then the dangers and inconveniences that may happen to your Lordships but I haue done this heretofore and will not offer your Lordships Grambenbis coctam A Speech in Parliament delivered by Mr. PEARD against the Oath Ex Officio 1640. Mr. SPEAKER I Assure my selfe we are here met to discover and reforme as much as in us lyeth all abuses of the Church and Common-wealth many and great ones have been spoken against some contrary to all Law and some established by new Lawes contrary to all Law The Wolfe having put on the Lions skinne and rapine presuming to passe undiscovered under the robe of Justice But I shall not neede to light a candle to search out that which already the sunne hath made manifest That which I shall speak hath not been spoken but if I shall speak that that shall seeme to be against Law I humbly crave the pardon of this House since if it be law it is summum jus Law without conscience That which I shall speake against is the Oath Ex Officio It is acknowledged by themselves that Administer this Oath that it is unjustly done to tender it to any man unlesse there be a publique Fame or particular Presentment or Articles testified against him I make no question but the practice of this confest Injunction wil be found cōmon amongst them And I hope it shal be severely censured since unjust proceedings upon unjust grounds are double Injustice I shall therefore leave that as a plaine case and examine their best grounds First Fame they say is a just cause for them to take Cognizance of a matter to proceed against it Fame we know may arise upon very small and groundlesse suspitions by secret whisperings creeping at first but quickly gets it wings And as the Poët saith Creseit eundo This is the manner of all Fame if this be Fame their Court shall never want worke as long as a Promooter hath an ill tongue or a knave can slander an honest man Therefore I thinke Fame no good ground to proceed upon If Fame be just what most men speake certainly some men will testifie No man will testifie it is false Let no accusation then stand but out of the mouthes of two or three witnesses of Presentments are a just ground of proceedings in all Courts and upon all causes But neither witnesses nor presentments are or can be a just ground of the Oath Ex officio For if the partie accused be examined no further then is testified then the Oath Ex Officio is superfluous If he be examined further or upon other matters then is testified then a man is made to betray himselfe which is unjust Mr. Speaker such is the Mercy of the Common Law that Murderers and Poysoners are not examined upon the rack but the Civill law upon every occasion racketh the Conscience These are the Lyme-twigs which were set to catch the poore Martyrs in Queene Maries daies And in our daies I dare beleeve it will appeare that some good men are fallen into this snare Mr. Speaker If the foundations faile what shall the buildings doe If the conformity of good men shall undoe them who shall stand I desire nothing but that evill men may suffer I desire the Law may punish not make offenders I desire that our words and actions at this time and at other times may be subject to the Law I would have thought free Mr. Speakers Letter to Sir Jacob Ashley SIR WEE have had cause to doubt that some ill affected persons have endeavoured to make a mis-understanding in the Army of the intentions of the Parliament towards them To take away all mistaking in that kinde the house of Commons have Commanded me to assure you that they have taken the affaires of the Army into their serious Care And though for the present their moneys have not come as they wished and as was due by reason of the many distractions and other Impediments which this House could no wayes avoid yet they rest most assured that they shall not onely have their full pay but the House will take their merits into their further consideration in regard they take notice that notwithstanding their want and endeavours of those ill-affected persons they have not demeaned themselves otherwise then as men of honor and well affected to the Common-wealth which this House takes in so good part that we have already found out a way to get money for a good part of their pay and will take the most speedy course we possibly may for the rest From my house at Charing-Crosse the 4th of this present Moneth of May. 1641. So I remain Your very Loving Friend SIR 'T is the pleasure of the House that this Letter be Communicated to the Army to the end their Intentions may be cleerly understood by them Sir BENJAMIN RUDYERDS Speech Tuesday the 29. Decem. Mr. SPEAKER THe principall part of this businesse is Moneys and now we are about it I shall be glad we may give so much as will not only serve the turn for the present but likewise to provide that it come not quick upon us againe I beleeve that the two subsidies are spent already Wee know how much time this businesse hath cost us if we be but halfe as long about another it may cost more then money For if two Armies should be driven to extreame necessitie and they will be Judges of their owne necessitie we shall not be able to sit here and give more though we would Believe it Sir this is the businesse of all the businesses in the House of all the businesses in the Kingdom If we stand hacking for a little money wee may very thriftily lose all we have this being a businesse of so peremptory and destructive a nature Wherefore Mr. Speaker my humble and earnest motion is that we may dispatch it fully and at once If there should be an overplus of money remaining wee can soone resolve how to dispose of it Foure subsidies will doe the worke if they be given presently for every day tells us that we are not so much Masters of our owne time and occasions as to doe nothing when we would Let us doe this whilest we may though I dwell not
in the North yet I dwell in England Sir BENJAMIN RUDYERDS Speech concerning the QUEENS Joynture Jan. 1640. Mr. SPEAKER GOD hath blessed the Queens Majestie with a blessed Progeny already whereby she hath relieved and fortified this Kingdome which may put us in minde in a fit time to provide according to their birth and interest Shee is the daughter of a great and famous King she is the wife of our King which to us includes all expressions But in one thing Mr. Speaker her Majestie is singular in that she is the Mother to the greatest Prince that hath beene borne amongst us above these hundred yeers which cannot but work a tendernesse in us The Queene likewise may be another Instrument of happinesse to us in her good affection to Parliaments by a good hansell in this And I beleeve we shall see effects of it for it neerly and wisely concernes her Majestie even in all the Relations that are most deare to her to contribute her best Assistance to Uphold the Government and greatnesse of the kingdome By which meanes also the king will be better enabled to make a further enlargement of his bounty towards her in some degree proportionable Wherefore Mr. Speaker it will become this House to shew our cheerfulnesse in passing of the Bill Articles against Doctor Piercie Bishop of Bath and Wells exhibited by Mr. James Minister within his Diocesse 1 HEE hath Ex officio convented mee before him for having two Sermons preached in my Church on Michaelmas day to the great disturbance hinderance of the sale of the Church Ale as his Lordship pretended and further examined me upon Oath whether I had not the said Sermons preached for the same purpose and intent admonishing me for the future neither to preach my selfe nor suffer any other to preach in my Cure in the afternoon of either the Lords-day or holy dayes 2 I heard him say to his Register That whereas Information had been given concerning certain Ministers that they expounded upon the Catechisme this Information was too narrow to catch them and therefore it should have runne thus that they Catechised or expounded upon the Catechisme Sermon-wise and then they would have been obnoxious to censure 3 At the meeting to elect Clerks of the Convocation he threatned to send forth Censures of the Church against all that would not pay in the Benevolence late granted in the late Synod within a fortnight after the second day of November last past And further at the said election his sonne gave eight single voyces two as Arch-Deacon of Bath two as Prebend of the Church of Wells two as Parson of Buckland Saint Mary two as Vicar of Kingsbury and many others also there present gave as many double voyces as they had Benefices and Dignities against which one Mr. Rosnell protested saying that it was illegall The Bishop replyed that they gave in severall capacities and thereupon commanded him silence saying that he was a young man 4. That upon the meer Information of Mr. Humphry Sydenham Rector of Buckington that in a certain Sermon Preached at the Visitation of the Arch Deacon of Taunton I bespattered the Clergie The Bishop summoned me before him down to Wells and there objected unto mee that I had preached a scandalous Sermon wherein I had cast some aspersions on some of the Clergy Upon which charge I proferd to bring in an exact Copy of the Sermon I preacht and to depose that I spake neither more nor lesse then was contained in the said Copy This the Bishop would not accept of saying that he would not have the Ministers who came to witnesse against mee troubled with a second journey One of my Proctors desired time till the next Court day for me to give in my answer the Bishop commanded him to hold his Peace and the other Proctor though he was retained by me had received a Fee never opened his mouth pretending unto me that because the Bishop was so highly displeased with mee he durst not appeare in my behalf being denyed time to give in my answer at the next Court day I desired respit untill the afternoon this also was denyed In fine contrary to the rules of their own Court he examined witnesses against me and proceeded to Censure me before he received my full answer he would not heare the answer which I could give to the Articles objected to me which I proferd to give and which he had by oath required me to give further by vertue of the oath he administred unto me he questioned me not only concerning matters of outward fact but also concerning my most secret thoughts intentions and aymes Moreover whereas the witnesses confessed that I only said in the foresaid Sermon that some put the Scriptures into a staged dresse the Bishop perswaded them that that expression was equivalent with the Article objected that some mens Sermons were Stage Playes and they by his perswasion swore down right that I saidsome mens Sermons were Stage Playes The Doctor made an Act and Order that I should make publique retractation which I refused to doe and appeald unto the Arches But upon either the Bishops or M. Sidenhams Information my Procter Hunt renounced my appeale and Sir John Lambe dismissed the same cause without hearing unto the Bishop againe 5 The Churchwardens of my Parish by order from the Bishop were enjoyned to turn the Communion Table and place it Altar-wise c. Now they that they might neither displease the Bishop nor transgresse against the Rubrick of the Liturgie made it an exact square Table that so notwithstanding the Bishops order the Minister might still Officiate at the North side of the Table M. Humphry Sydenham informed against this and upon Information the Bishop sent to view it and upon his view he certified the Bishop that it was like an Oyster Table whereupon the Bishop ordered the Churchwardens to make a new one 6 Upon M. Humphry Sydenhams Information that M. John Pym was a Parliamenteer the Bishop would not suffer me any longer to sojourn in his house although before such Information he gave me leave And when I demanded of some of his servants the reason why his Lordship had thus changed his minde they told me that his Lordship was informed by M. Sydenham that M. Pym was a Puritane The Lord Andevers speech in March 1640. concerning the Star-Chamber MY Lords since your Lordships have already looked so farre into priviledges of Peers as to make a strict inquisition upon forraign honours Let us not destroy that among our selves which we desire to preserve from strangers And if this greivance I shall move against have slept till now It is very considerable lest custome make it every day more apparent than other your Lordships very well know there was a Statute framed 3 Hen. 7. Authorizing the Chancellor Treasurer and Privy Seale and the two Chiefe Justices calling to them one Bishop and a temporall Lord of the Kings Councell to receive complaints