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A13028 An assertion for true and Christian church-policie VVherein certaine politike obiections made against the planting of pastours and elders in every congregation, are sufficientlie aunswered. And wherein also sundrie projectes are set downe, how the discipline by pastors & elders may be planted, without any derogation to the Kings royal prerogatiue, any indignitie to the three estates in Parleament, or any greater alteration of the laudable lawes, statutes, or customes of the realme, then may well be made without damage to the people. Stoughton, William, fl. 1584.; Knollys, Francis, Sir, d. 1643. 1604 (1604) STC 23318; ESTC S117843 177,506 448

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that_o it_o may_v fall_v out_o that_o more_o under_o their_o jurisdiction_n discipline_n by_o the_o bb._n excommunication_n more_o may_v be_v 〈◊〉_d of_o communion_n then_o in_o communion_n it_o be_v therefore_o by_o his_o own_o reason_n a_o deform_a discipline_n may_v be_v out_o of_o their_o communion_n then_o in_o communion_n with_o they_o because_o one_o man_n alone_o as_o he_o playnelie_o insinuate_v may_v excommunicate_v the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o church_n under_o his_o censure_n for_o otherwise_o he_o can_v never_o have_v suppose_v that_o more_o will_v be_v out_o of_o communion_n then_o in_o communion_n because_o i_o say_v these_o deformity_n &_o these_o inconvenience_n by_o their_o own_o experience_n have_v be_v find_v to_o have_v follow_v upon_o that_o discipline_n of_o excommunication_n which_o hitherto_o have_v be_v practise_v it_o fall_v out_o that_o they_o can_v not_o otherwise_o judge_v but_o that_o all_o other_o manner_n of_o discipline_n by_o excommunication_n must_v be_v of_o the_o same_o nature_n &_o condition_n that_o be_v as_o deform_v and_o inconvenient_a as_o their_o own_o be_v and_o yet_o in_o this_o place_n it_o be_v worthy_a to_o be_v mark_v what_o a_o rod_n the_o admonitor_n have_v get_v out_o of_o s._n augustine_n to_o deformity_n by_o s._n augustine_n reason_n bishopply_v excommunication_n have_v many_o deformity_n whip_v his_o own_o discipline_n by_o excommunication_n only_o out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o thus_o it_o may_v be_v frame_v that_o discipline_n whereby_o more_o will_v be_v or_o more_o may_v be_v excommunicate_v then_o in_o communion_n have_v in_o it_o many_o deformity_n and_o inconvenience_n but_o by_o the_o discipline_n of_o excommunication_n which_o the_o reverend_a bishopp_n their_o archdeacon_n chauncelor_n commissary_n and_o official_o practise_v more_o will_v be_v or_o more_o may_v be_v excommunicate_v then_o in_o communion_n therefore_o that_o discipline_n by_o excommunication_n which_o the_o reverend_a bishopp_n their_o archdeacon_n &c._n &c._n practice_n have_v in_o it_o many_o deformity_n and_o inconvenience_n the_o mayor_n proposition_n if_o he_o speak_v true_o be_v st._n augustine_n but_o whether_o it_o be_v or_o be_v not_o it_o be_v no_o great_a matter_n because_o it_o need_v not_o the_o authority_n of_o any_o man_n to_o confirm_v it_o the_o same_o be_v sound_n and_o true_a in_o it_o own_o nature_n the_o minor_a be_v draw_v from_o his_o own_o reason_n thus_o where_o there_o be_v more_o man_n of_o stubborness_n in_o the_o church_n then_o of_o obedience_n &_o where_o there_o be_v more_o man_n that_o shun_v not_o then_o that_o shun_v the_o company_n of_o those_o that_o be_v excommunicate_v there_o more_o will_v be_v or_o may_v be_v excommunicate_v then_o in_o communion_n but_o there_o be_v more_o man_n of_o stubborness_n then_o of_o obedience_n and_o more_o that_o shun_v not_o then_o that_o do_v shun_v the_o company_n of_o those_o that_o be_v excommunicate_v by_o the_o reverend_a bishopp_n 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