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A42231 Hugo Grotius, Of the government and rites of the ancient church, conciliation of grace and free will, certainty and assurance of salvation, government of the highest powers in church affairs in a letter to the states embassador. Grotius, Hugo, 1583-1645.; Barksdale, Clement, 1609-1687. 1675 (1675) Wing G2118; ESTC R34449 21,440 54

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HVGO GROTIVS OF THE Government and Rites of the Antient Church Conciliation of Grace and Free-will Certainty and Assurance of Salvation Government of the Highest Powers in Church-affairs In a LETTER To the States Embassador LONDON Printed for the Tr●●●lator 1675. Gerardus Vossius de Idol 1. 36. The most illustrious Hugo Grotius greater then all praise Dr. Casaubon I have always admired the wit and judgment of Grotius and have had a peculiar veneration for his writings Lege p●● ult exspired To the Right Honourable Sir ROBERT VINER Lord Maior of London My Lord In remembrance of your worthy Brother our late Dean of Gloucester I offer your Lordship these brief Discourses In his Study I first met with that useful Collection of Ecclesiastical Epistles where this is exstant At his House under his favour first came I into your knowledge Now after his decease his Name dear still to us who once enjoyed his learned generous and obliging Converse will add some Grace unto these Papers in your Eye and your Name my Lord worthily advanced to your high Office will make them acceptable to some of this great people under your Government I heartily wish we may all Translate into our minds the sedate and pacific temper of this Author A man above my Praise Whose Writings as it was said in the last Age of his Country-man the great Erasmus are the delight of our learned World If any Reader please to dissent from the Opinion of the excellent Grotius he may but then he ought not to be displeased if another dissent from him A difference in some Questions may well consist with Christian Charity The encrease of this rare virtue is the Design both of the Author and the Translator God Almighty grant your Lordship a year of peace that you may see the State and Church-affairs to flourish and Pious men who now go under several new to close in one and that the old and best Denomination Your Lordships faithful Servant Cl. Barksdale A Letter of HUGO GROTIUS To the States Embassador IN FRANCE Touching the Government and Rites of the Antient Church the Conciliation of Grace and Free-will the Government of the Highest Powers in Church-affairs SIR Consulting with my self about an Answer to the Writing of the famous Molinaeus I return unto this Epistolar office for some time intermitted If I should say nothing I should injure the truer opinions concerning the rites and government of the antient Church the Conciliation of Grace and Free-will the government of the highest Powers in affairs Ecclesiastical All which either by reason of his haste into England or because his exact care of other controversies gave him no leisure to consider of these were not handled by Molinaeus according to his usual learning Truly I am not glad he read that part of my letter wherein I did with some freedom touch the maladies of the Gallican Churches for there are few that can patiently endure the handling of their Ulcers Being offended herewith he does me great injury in answering so as if I disswaded the nearer union of the Protestant Churches when as I have many years had the same wishes with him and cease ●ot to do all the service I can to that end But from your Epistle most Noble Sir what I writ had its rise wherein you signified the English Embassador gave small hope of promoting that business Hence I took occasion to search after the causes which might hinder so good a design God grant my Conjectures be not true Whether the reformed French have so much reverence for the highest Powers as the English these very times I fear will give too great an evidence The King of Great Britain long since hath declared his judgment that the too near equality of Church-men will not consist with due obedience and he hath been often heard to say No Bishop No King That in England there is more respect given to the antient Church then in France I wonder any man will deny In the Canons of the Anglican church written in the year 1571 I find this The preachers shall have a special care that they deliver nothing in their Sermons but what is agreeable to the old and new Testament and which the Catholick Fathers and old Bishops have collected t●ence I much doubt ●hether the French ministers will receive this law Touching Rites I am sure the English Liturgy the imposition of hands at Confirmation of baptized children the authority of Bishops Convocation of Priests alone and many like things agree well with the institutes of the more antient Church from which things we must needs confess in France and Belgium they have receded That He hath a better esteem of Bishops and Confirmation I rejoyce but he is not ignorant that some of his acquaintance call the one a device of Satan the other a note of Antichrist a sort of men great enemies to the Churches peace True it is which Molinaeus affirms peace may consist with different rites and disciplin but then great care must be had that they prefer not their own too much above others especially things lately invented above those which are received from antiquity Molinaeus imagins I meant cunningly to engage him in the Belgic controversies but I can religiously protest I had no other purpose but by your mediation to get the assistance of his Councel for my self and others toward the making of peace For having formerly seen another writing of his concerning concord to be made between protestants the Lutherans also included in which he clearly professeth that many questions not necessary to salvation are to be laid aside and namely those moved by Arminius of predestination of freewill and of perseverance I verily thought he would propose such a form of doctrin therein as not to condemn the opinion which I will not say Arminius but Melanchthon liked best He does indeed propose some Theses which he saith agree with the doctrin of Austin Prosper Fulgentius and the Arausican Council But they that differ from Molinaeus will ask why the Authority of Austin must be greater then of all the Fathers who lived in the elder and the purer times i e within 400 years after the birth of Christ From whom what we have received the King of Great Britain doth profess he will never condemn and very many of us are of the same mind Now all they nearest to the Apostles Age and their successors many of them both Bishops and Martyrs held Gods purpose and predestination according to prescience that he made some vessels of honor some of dishonor because he fore-saw the end of every one and fore knew their will and deed under the aid of Grace as their Books do testify and Prosper doth in plain words confess This is the constant judgment of those Fathers that the will is free in beleiving yet not without the aid of divine Grace As to the Arausican Council there is not any thing at all touching the question of predestination