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A84686	The great interest of states & kingdomes. The second part. A sermon preached on a publike thanksgiving, on the 12th. of May, 1646. at Botolphs Alders-gate: and after (upon the desire of some friends) enlarged at Pauls Church in Covent-garden, on the Lords Day, May 17th. 1646. / By Simon Ford, minister of the Gospel at Puddle-Towne in Dorcet-shire.	Ford, Simon, 1619?-1699.	1646 (1646)	Wing F1487; Thomason E356_1; ESTC R19643	34,887	43

THE GREAT INTEREST OF STATES KINGDOMES The Second Part. A Sermon Preached on a Publike Thanksgiving on the 12 th of May 1646. at Botolphs Alders-gate And after upon the desire of some friends enlarged at Pauls Church in Covent-garden on the Lords Day May 17 th 1646. By SIMON FORD Minister of the Gospel at Puddle-Towne in Dorcet-shire PSAL. 105. 15. He rebuked Kings for their sakes Saying Doe my Prophets no harme LONDON Printed by W. WILSON for Francis Eglesfield and are to be sold at his shop in Pauls Church-yard at the Signe of the Marigold 1646. To the truely Noble and publike-hearted PATRIOT SIR WILLIAM WALLER Knight A Member of the Honourable House of COMMONS This Sermon and the Authors Prayers Honoured Sir THAT this plaine Sermon casts it selfe upon your Patronage the Subject it handles justly challengeth at my hands For besides that I am a debtor to your selfe mainly under God for that ranke whatsoever it be though of the lowest Forme which I have had in the Schooles and now have in the Society of the Prophets it is an obligation to me that I see you among your many imployments of meerely publike importance so cordially carefull of preserving unviolated this Interest of Interests the maine Subject of these Meditations Sir 't is to me and to all those whose glory 't is indeed though it is now in some mouthes grown a name of Scorne to be old Disciples that is tried Saints a matter of praise to that good God that principles prospers you to behold the evenness of your spirit carryed out in all conditions to the prosecution of publike Interests with the same height of faithfulness fervency To instance only in a few particulars seeing I know such a Discourse if enlarged as it might be though it might be very welcome to all understanding and well-affected Readers besides yet to you it would relish ill whose in some sense supererogatory piece of worth it is to be willing to doe well without being desirous to be told of it Sir we remember how in the Martiall part of this Ages imployment notwithstanding continuall oppositions of the first Magnitude both at home and abroad the Lord blessed your small inconsiderable numbers of the worst furnished and least pai'd souldiers of any with successes which the judgment of the late yeares thought somewhat bordering on miracles that you were the kingdomes Wall of Brasse next our God at Alton Arundell and Cheriton field and by Gods speciall never-to-be-forgotten goodnesse a principall meanes of its preservation that you cheerfully obeyed the call of the Houses in a calme resignation of your Forces and Command and sate downe one of the chief Self-denying Members without capitulating for pay or giving any manner of encouragement to or so much as accepting of the desires of the souldiery easie enough to have been induced to follow example and to mutiny for a dispensation of the continuance of your command as the stirrings of many quieted by your wisedome and the wet eyes of more abundantly drencht by their affection did largely testifie at your departure And we hope shall remember to Gods eternall praise your perpetuall glory that now in your meerely representative Capacity you keep steddy to your Principles of Conscience and Honour voting and acting from an impulsive within your owne breast without those Springs and Wires and weights that only keep many mens motions regular that in these dayes great justles of severally ingaged Parties you retaine still the same unbyassed Covenant-spirit and do not promote with a politick compliance or act with a tumultuous precipitancy the designes of Jesuiticall incendiaries whether of the line of Rome or of Munster who concur in an endeavour of setting a new fire on three kingdomes ere the old be fully extinguished for no other ends that I know but that like that Monster Nero they may sing 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in the heat c. or see more new light in the flames of it But above all that which renders you most precious in the eyes of all that hate Babel is your setled and constant affection to the Prophets of God now the scorne of this as * one well calls it Christ-glutted and Mr. Shepherd in his Sound Beleever Gospel-glutted Age and trampled upon on all hands as the very off-scouring of all things of which you dayly give such ample testimony that I dare assure you you have a large share in Prophets Prayers and I hope will one day have * Mat. 10. 41. according to the promise a liberall portion of the Prophets reward And now Sir for the future whatsoever discouragements you meet withall in the same good way remember him I pray you who endured the contradiction of sinners and yet grew not weary of his worke but carryed it on to perfection in despight of all the powers of darknesse Go you and do likewise Tell the humorous world that although its experienced ficklenesse gives you little reason to build much upon its constancy yet you will add one wonder more to its seven to wit that you are in this Lunatick age the same man you were a yeare since And I hope when England hath recovered its wits againe when its Platonick yeare comes about and Errors Circle is run quite through so that cast Truthes like super-annuated factions shall return and become New-light again which I doubt not but it will be in time it wil then see cause to acknowledge to your honour and theirs who have with you obtained grace to be kept faithfull that those who have stood to their places and Principles in all this change have done far better then those fallen Angels among us who have left their Stations and run the ring of apinions and parties so long to returne at last to the Point from whence they begun their irregular motion I have onely one word more and that concerns this homely piece of mine Sir in this Dedication I hope you wil look upon my desire to testifie to the world how far you have obliged me and the maine motive that put me upon the thoughts of it and accordingly accept it Yet I must acknowledge that I have withall a plot upon your name being perswaded that for its sake in the front of this Epistle many transient Readers may be perhaps stayed and intreated to read beyond the Title-page some of whom might else perchance lay it by for a Pamphlet sick of the extravagancies of this Age it being owned by so obscure an Author as is SIR Yours and the Churches weake but to his power faithfull Servant in the Gospel S. FORD To the Reader REader though this second Part had not the honour to be so publike from the Pulpit as its elder brother the first had yet the judgement and importunity of some well affected to me and the threatnings and mis-reports of others dis-affected to it and mee have made it no lesse publike from the Presse And yet as thou maist

to the dunghill with such unsavory salt They may be employed any where cheaper to the Eo deteriores sunt quia meliores non sunt qui meliores esse debuerunt Salv. State that employes them then in the Pulpit Let their lot be so much the heavier by how much they should have beene better then they are seeing they are so much the worse as Salvian saith in another case because they are no better who should have been better I could wish they had not too many Patrons among those who thinke the continuing them will so corrupt our governement as to make a greater resort to their separated Congregations I thinke I speake the thoughts of all the godly Ministers in the land they will be so far from charging you with harming Prophets for punishing and putting out these that they will thinke no action of yours will do them more right then freeing them from such botches of that honourable calling Those I plead for are the faithful Orthodox able and conscientious Pastors Use them well as you love your selves and the Kingdome which I am confident if they perish from the Land will not long survive them And now a word to you of the City and all that feare God and heare me this day The Lord be blessed you have for the most considerable part of you been the shields and bucklers of the Prophets And be you so still My Text hath a charge for you too I hope you see how the Prophets Interest and yours are intwisted each within the other You cannot but know how soon Munsters calamity followed the persecution of of its Ministers You know how a community of prophesying there ushered in a community of estates and plurality of Wives and when their new-come Prophets had altogether expelled or infected their standing Preachers 't was not long ere they fell to cut the throats and rifle the houses of the wicked that is all those that had not lost their Religion and their Wits like themselves Sleyden tells us that Thomas Muncer the fire-brand of Germany in its first Reformation began those Combustions by preaching against Luther and cutting out a middle way between him and the Pope to make Luther as odious on one side as the Pope on the other side a Sleid. lib. 5. Com. Huc●scil Alstetum ubi eomnigra vit ille coepit docere primum non solum adversas p●n●ificem Romanum sed ipsum quoque Lutherum utri●sque doctrinam esse vi●iosam impuram c. And a little after in Munster 't was voted an Ace beyond him that of the two false Prophets the Pope and Luther Luther was the worst b Id lib. 10. Comm. Lutherum etiam Pontificem Romanum aiunt esse falsos Prophetas Lutherum tamen altero deteriorem And what were the sister opinions unto this and into what confusion they quickly reduced the whole City and Countrey by decrying the Magistrates as much the same Historian abundantly relates Sure that Generation hath hitherto had like good will to both Civill and Ecclesiasticall power I cannot but take notice that Mr. * Tombes in his late examination of Master Marshall's Sermon though he deny the necessary dependance of the rest of those Muncerian and Munsterian miscarriages upon the opinion of Antipaedobaptisme in which point Master Marshall hath answered sufficiently yet taking occasion to lay downe some reasons upon which it may seem no wonder it was so accompanied in those dayes among the rest he alledgeth their want of a regular Ministery and hence I believe I may be bold to argue thus far that whatever Sects are enemies to a regular Ministery as most of the Sectaries in England c But it is no marvaile that when men grow into Sects such things happen ospecially when the Reformation of an abuse is denyed in an orderly Synodicall way In which yet referring to Munster Master Tombes to excuse the Anabaptists without Authority crosseth the History that Sleyden tells us l. 10. that before the Magistrates of Munster expelled them by a Decree they allowed them a dispute before them with the Ministers which as the place would permit was an orderly Synodicall way and afterwards offered them another before learned and able Moderators which Rotman refused and the persons that seek it declaimed against accused and accursed and persecuted as Schismaticks and Hereticks and unlearned and factious men marke these words this is the plaine state of most of our Sectaries in England joyne with a discontented party for finister ends so that the men that hold an opinion have no regular Ministery nor orderly meetings to debate or conclude of things among themselves and to agree upon a confession of their Doctrine to be by all avouched Tombs Examin page 24. Sect. 5. are and most Anabaptists of any 't is no wonder if they bring themselves and the places where they are into such turbulent and Antimagistraticall practises And truely 't is no wonder to me when I consider that the Principles of their enmity to Ministery will easily be improved to an overthrow of Magistracy Heare it I beseech you all you that love order and believe it Citizens whose Government hitherto hath been your Glory according to these mens principles as farre as they are pleased to discover them you have no greater security for your sword or seat of Justice for your Chaines and Scarlet then wee have for our Coats or our Pulpits And sure in their usuall way of arguing from a pretended flaw in our Calling to a scorn of our Doctrine a surprizall of our Office and a persecution of our Persons though they doe not mention you in their premises yet they may in the Conclusion 'T is ordinary with their Sophistry to bring more in the conclusion then is in the premises and it will goe hard with them if when they have begun with the Minister they do not end with the Magistrate when they have made the Minister good man Priest they will bid faire to make my Lord Mr. Major a And how probable this is see the disputation recorded in Gangraena 2. Part. p. 17. where the Anabaptisticall Disputants unlorded the Lord Ma●or called him in scorne Master Major For let any man tell me in sober sadnes whether by the Warrant which they pretend from 1 Pet. 4. 10. they may not as wel make themselves Magistrates as they conclude themselves Preachers I know not if a mans sole gifts authorize him to teach though not by vertue of any office yet out of charity as they distinguish most absurdly as if Charity would beare a man out in doing acts of office without a Commission why they may not be as charitable to the Lord Major and Court of Aldermen as to us especially seeing the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withall sure there is a gift of Governing as well as a gift of Prophecying And let any man againe resolve me whether if Be not