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A66445 The blovdy tenent, of persecution, for cause of conscience, discussed, in a conference betweene trvth and peace vvho, in all tender affection, present to the high court of Parliament, as the result of their discourse, these, amongst other passages, of highest consideration. Williams, Roger, 1604?-1683.; Cotton, John, 1584-1652. 1644 (1644) Wing W2758; ESTC R2405 232,471 275

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to be violated urged or constrained And whensover men have attempted any thing by this violent course whether openly or by secret meanes the issue hath beene pernicious and the cause of great and wonderfull innovations in the principallest and mightiest Kingdomes and Countries c. It cannot be denied to be a pious and prudentiall act for Your Honours according to your conscience to call for the advice of faithfull Councellours in the high debates concerning Your owne and the soules of others Yet let it not be imputed as a crime for any suppliant to the God of Heaven for You if in the humble sense of what their soules beleeve they powre forth amongst others these three requests at the Throne of Grace First That neither Your Honours nor those excellent and worthy persons whose advice you seek limit the holy One of Israel to their apprehensions debates conclusions rejecting or neglecting the humble and faithfull suggestions of any though as base as spittle and clay with which sometimes Christ Iesus opens the eyes of them that are borne blinde Secondly That the present and future generations of the Sons of Men may never have cause to say that such a Parliament as England never enjoyed the like should modell the worship of the living eternall and invisible God after the Bi●● of any earthly interest though of the highest concernment under the Sunne And yet saith that learned Sir Francis Bacon how ever otherwise perswaded yet thus he confesseth Such as hold pressure of Conscience are guided therein by some private interests of their owne Thirdly What ever way of worshipping God Your owne Consciences are perswaded to walke in yet from any bloody act of violence to the consciences of others it may bee never told at Rome nor Oxford that the Parliament of England hath committed a greater rape then if they had forced or ravished the bodies of all the women in the World And that Englands Parliament so famous throughout all Europe and the World should at last turne Papists Prelatists Presbyterians Independents Socinians Familists Antinomians c. by confirming all these sorts of Consciences by Civill force and violence to their Consciences To every Courteous Reader VVHile I plead the Cause of Truth and Innocencie against the bloody Doctrine of Persecution for cause of conscience I judge it not unfit to give alarme to my selfe and all men to prepare to be persecuted or ●●nted for cause of conscience Whether thou standest charged with 10 or but 2 Talents if thou huntest any for cause of conscience how canst thou say thou followest the Lambe of God who so abhorr'd that practice If Paul if Iesus Christ were present here at London and the question were proposed what Religion would they approve of The Papists Prelatists Presbyterians Independents c. would each say Of mine of mine But put the second question if one of the severall sorts should by major vote attaine the Sword of steele what weapons doth Christ Jesus authorize them to sight with in His cause Doe not all men hate the persecutor and every conscience true or false complaine of cruelty tyranny c. Two mountaines of crying guilt lye heavie upon the backes of All that name the name of Christ in the eyes of Iewes Turkes and Pagans First The blasphemies of their Idolatrous inventions superstitions and most unchristian conversations Secondly The bloody irreligious and inhumane oppressions and destructions under the maske or vaile of the Name of Christ c. O how like is the jealous Iehovah the consuming fire to end these present slaughters in a greater slaughter of the holy Witnesses Rev. 11. Six yeares preaching of so much Truth of Christ as that time afforded in K. Edwards dayes kindles the flames of Q. Maries bloody persecutions Who can now but expect that after so many scores of yeares preaching and professing of more Truth and amongst so many great contentions amongst the very best of Protestants a fierie furnace should be heat and who sees not now the ●ires kindling I confesse I have little hopes till those flames are over that this Discourse against the doctrine of persecution for cause of conscience should passe currant I say not amongst the Wolves and Lions but even amongst the Sheep of Christ themselves yet liberavl animam meam I have not hid within my breast my souls belief And although sleeping on the bed either of the pleasures or profits of sin●e thou thinkest thy conscience bound to smite at him that dares to waken thee Yet in the middest of all these civill and spirituall Wars I hope we shall agree in these particulars First how ever the proud upon the advantage of an higher earth or ground or ' clooke the poore and cry out Schismatickes Hereticks c. shall blasphemers and seducers scape unpunished c. Yet there is a sorer punishment in the Gospel for despising of Christ then Moses even when the despiser of M●ses was put to death without mercie Heb. 10. 28 29. He that beleeveth not shall bee damned Marke 16. 16. Secondly what ever Worship Ministry Ministration the best and purest are practised without faith and true perswasion that they are the true institutions of God they are sin sinfull worships Ministries c. And however in Civill things we may be servants unto men yet in Divine and Spirituall things the poorest pesant must disdaine the service of the highest Prince Be ye not the servants of men 1 Cor. 14. Thirdly without search and triall no man attaines this faith and right perswasion 1 Thes. 5. Try all things In vaine have English Parliaments permitted English Bibles in the poorest English houses and the simplest man or woman to search the Scriptures if yet against their soules perswasion from the Scripture they should be forced as if they lived in Spaine or Rome it selfe without the sight of a Bible to beleeve as the Church beleeves Fourthly having tried we must hold fast 1 Thessal 5. upon the losse of a Crowne Revel 13. we must not let goe for all the ●lea bitings of the present afflictions c. having bought Truth deare we must not ●ell it cheape not the least graine of it for the whole World no not for the saving of Soules though our owne most precious least of all for the bitter sweetning of a little vanishing pleasure For a little puffe of credit and reputation from the changeable breath of uncertaine sons of men For the broken bagges of Riches on Eagles wings For a dreame of these any or all of these which on our death-bed vanish and leave tormenting stings behinde them Oh how much better is it from the love of Truth from the love of the Father of lights from whence it comes from the love of the Sonne of God who is the way and the Truth to say as he Iohn 18. 37. For this end was I borne and for this end came I into the World that I might be are witnesse to the Truth A Table of
and Cities out of which all false worshippers and wicked persons were to be cut Rev. 2. 3. The Divells throne was in the City of Pergamus in respect of the state and persecution of it and yet there was also the Throne of the Lord Iesus set up in His Church of worshippers in Pergamus out of which the Balaamites and Nicholaitans and every false worshipper was to be cast though not out of the City of Pergamus for then Pergamus must have beene throwne out of Pergamus and the World out of the World CHAP. CI. Peace OH that my head were a fountaine and mine eyes River● of teares to lament my children the children of peace and light thus darkning that and other lightsome Scriptures with such darke and direfull clouds of bloud Truth Sweet Peace thy teares are seasonable and precious and botled up in the Heavens but let me adde a second consideration from that Scripture If that Scripture may now literally be applied to Nations and Cities in a parallel to Canaan and Ierusalem since the Gospel and this Psal. 101. be literally to be applied to Cities Townes and Countries in Europe and America not only such as assay to joyne themselves as they here speake in a corrupt Church estate but such as know no Church estate nor God nor Christ yea every wicked person and evill doer must be hanged or stoned c. as it was in Israel and if so how many thousands and millions of men and women in the severall Kingdomes and governments of the World must be cut off from their Lands and destroyed from their Cities as this Scripture speakes Thirdly since those persons in the New English plantations accounted unfit for Church estate yet remaine all members of the Church of England from which New England dares not separate no not in their Sacraments as some of the Independents have published what riddle or mysterie or rather fallacie of Sathan is this Peace It will not be offence to charity to make conjecture First herein New England Churches secretly call their Mother whore not daring in America to joyne with their owne Mothers children though unexcommunicate no nor permit them to worship God after their consciences and as their Mother hath taught them this secretly and silently they have a minde to doe which publickly they would seem to disclaime and professe against Secondly If such members of Old England should be suffered to enjoy their consciences in New however it is pretended they would profane Ordinances for which they are unfit as true it is in that naturall persons are not fit for Spirituall worship yet this appears not to be the bottome for in Old England the New English joyne with Old in the ministrations of the Word Prayer singing contribution maintenance of the Ministrie c. if I say they should set up Churches after their conscience the greatnesse and multitudes of their owne Assemblies would decay and with all the contributions and maintenance of their Ministers unto which all or most have beene forced Truth Deare Peace These are more then conjectures thousands now espie and all that love the purity of the worship of the living God should lament such halting I shall adde this not only doe they partially neglect to cut off the wicked of the Land but such as themselves esteemed beloved and goldy have they driven forth and keep out others which would come unto them eminently godly by their owne confession because differing in conscience and worship from them and consequently not to be suffered in their holy Land of Canaan But having examined that Scripture alledged let us now weigh their Reasons First say they the not cutting off by the sword but tolerating many Religions in a State would provoke God unto which I answer first and here being no Scripture produced to these Reasons shall the sooner answer that no proofe can be made from the Institutions of the Lord Iesus that all Religions but one are to be cut off by the Civill Sword that Nationall Church in that typicall Land of Canaan being abolished and the Christian Commonweale or Church instituted Secondly I affirme that the cutting off by the Sword other Consciences and Religions is contrarily most provoking unto God expressely against his will concerning the Tares Matth. 13. as I have before proved as also the bloudy mother of all those monstrous mischiefes where such cutting off is used both to the soules and bodies of men Thirdly let conscience and experience speake how in the not cutting off their many Religions it hath pleased God not only not to be provoked but to prosper the state of the united Provinces our next neighbours and that to admiration Peace The second reason is such tolerating would leaven divide and destroy the peace of the Churches Truth This must also be denied upon so many former Scriptures Reasons produced proving the power of the Lord Iesus and the sufficiencie of his Spirituall power in his Church for the purging forth and conquering of the least evill yea and for the bringing every thought in subjection unto Christ Iesu 2 Cor. 10. I adde they have not produced one Scripture nor can to prove that the permitting to leaven of false doctrine in the World or Civill State will leaven the Churches only we finde that the permission of leaven in persons doctrines or practices in the Church that indeed will corrupt and spread 1. Cor. 5. Gal. 5. but this Reason should never have been alledged were not the particular Churches in New England but as so many implicite Parish Churches in one implicite National Church Peace Their third Reason is it will dissolve the continuity of the State especially theirs where the walls are made of the stones of the Churches Truth I answer briefly to this bare affirmation thus that the true Church is a wall spirituall and mysticall Cant. 8. 9. Then consequently a false Church or Company is a false or pretended wall and none of Christs The civill State Power and Government is a civill wall c. and Lastly the walls of Earth or stone about a City are the naturall or artificiall wall or defence of it Now in consideration of these foure wals I desire it may be proved from the Scripture of Truth how the false spirituall wall or company of false worshippers suffred in a City can be able to destroy the true Christian wall or company of beleevers Againe how this false spirituall wall or false Church permitted can destroy the civill wall the State and Government of the City and Citizens any more then it can destroy the naturall or artificiall wall of earth or stone Spirituall may destroy spirituall if a stronger and victorious but spirituall cannot reach to artificiall or civill Peace Yea but they feare the false spirituall wall may destroy their civill because it is made of the stones of Churches Truth If this have reference to that practice amongst them
Christs mouth a sword with two edges But more particularly the contributions of Christs Kingdome are all holy and spirituall though consisting of materiall earthly substance as is Water in Baptisme Bread and Wine in the Supper and joyned with prayer and the Lords Supper Act. 2. 42. Hence as Prayer is called Gods sacrifice so are the contributions and mutuall supplyes of the Saints sacrifices Phil. 4. Hence also as it is impossible for naturall men to bee capable of Gods worship and to feed be nourished and edified by any spirituall ordinance no more then a dead childe can sucke the breast or a dead man feast So also is it as impossible for a dead man yet lodged in the grave of Nature to contribute spiritually I meane according to Scriptures rule as for a dead man to pay a reckoning I question not but naturall men may for the outward act preach pray contribute c. but neither are they worshippers suitable to him who is a Spirit Iohn 4. nor can they least of all bee forced to worship or the maintenance of it without a guilt of their hypocrisie Peace They will say what is to be done for their soules Truth The Apostles whom wee professe to imitate preached the Word of the Lord to unbeleevers without mingling in worship with them and such Preachers and preaching such as pretend to be the true Ministry of Christ ought to be and practise Not forcing them all their dayes to come to Church and pay their duties either so confessing that this is their Religion unto which they are forced or else that as before they are forced to be of no Religion all their dayes The way to subdue Rebels is not by correspondence and communion with them by forcing them to keepe the City Watches and pay sessements c. which all may be practised upon compulsion treacherously the first work with such is powerfully to subdue their judgments and wills to lay downe their weapons and yeeld willing subjection then come they orderly into the City and so to Citie priviledges CHAP. CVI. Peace PLease you now deare Truth to discusse the Scriptures from the Old Testament Nehem 13. and 2 Chron. 31. Truth God gave unto that Nationall Church of the Jewes that excellent Land of Canaan and therein Houses furnished Orchards Gardens Vineyards Olive yards Fields Wells c. they might well in this settled abundance and the promised continuation and increase of it afford a large temporall supply to their Priests and Levites even to the Tenth of all they did possesse Gods people are now in the Gospel brought into a spirituall land of Canaan flowing with spirituall milk and honey and they abound with spirituall and heavenly comforts though in a poore and persecuted condition therefore an inforced setled maintenance is not sutable to the Gospel as it was to the Ministry of Priests and Levites in the Law Secondly in the change of the Church estate there was also a change of the Priesthood and of the Law Heb. 7. Nor did the Lord Iesus appoint that in his Church and for the maintenance of his Ministrie the Civill sword of the Magistrate but that the Spirituall Sword of the Ministrie should alone compell 3. Therefore the compulsion used under Hezekiah and Nehemiah was by the civill and corporall Sword a type in that typicall State not of another materiall and corporall but of an heavenly and spirituall even the sword of the Spirit with which Christ fighteth Revel 3. which is exceeding sharpe entring in between the soule and spirit Heb. 4. and bringing every thought into captivitie to the obedience of Christ Iesus He that submits not at the shaking of this sword is cut off by it and he that despiseth this sword all the power in the World cannot make him a true worshipper or by his purse a mainteiner of Gods worship Lastly If any man professing to be a Minister of Christ Iesus shall bring men before the Magistrate as the practice hath been both in Old and New England for not paying him his wages or his due I aske if the voluntarie consent of the party hath not obliged him how can either the officers of the Parish Church or of the Civill State compell this or that man to pay so much more or lesse to maintaine such a Worship or Ministrie I ask further if the determining what is each mans due to pay why may they not determine the tenth and more as some desired others opposing in New England and force men not only to maintenance but to a Iewish maintenance Peace Yea but say they is not the Labourer worthy of his hire Truth Yes from them that hire him from the Church to whom he laboureth or ministreth not from the Civill State no more then the Minister of the Civill State is worthy of his hire from the Church but from the Civill State in which I grant the persons in the Church ought to be assistant in their Civill respects Peace What maintenance say they shall the Ministrie of the Gospell have Truth We finde two wayes of maintenance for the Ministrie of the Gospell proposed for our direction in the New Testament First the free and willing contribution of the Saints according to 1 Cor. 16. Luc. 8. 3. c. upon which both the Lord Jesus and his Ministers lived Secondly the diligent worke and labour of their owne hands as Paul tells the Thessalonians and that in two cases 1. Either in the inabilities and necessities of the Church 2. Or for the greater advantage of Christs truth as when Paul saw it would more advantage the name of Christ he denies himselfe and falls to worke amongst the Corinthians and Thessalonians Let none call these cases extraordinary for if persecution be the portion of Christs sheep and the busines or worke of Christ must be dearer to us then our right eyes or lives such as will follow Paul and follow the Lord Iesus must not thinke much at but rejoyce in poverties necessities hunger cold nakednesse c. The Stewards of Christ Iesus must be like their Lord and abhorre to steale as the evill Steward pretending that the shamed to beg but peremptorily dig he could not CHAP. CVII Peace ONe and the last branch deare Truth remaines concerning Schooles The Churches say they much depend upon the Schooles and the Schooles upon the Magistrates Truth I honour Schooles for Tongues and Arts but the institution of Europes Universities devoting persons as is said for Scholars in a Monasticall way forbidding Mariage and Labour to I hold as far from the mind of Iesus Christ as it is from propagating his Name and Worship We count the Universities the Fountaines the Seminaries or Seed-plots of all Pietie but have not those Fountaines ever sent what streames the Times have liked and ever changed their taste and colour to the Princes eye and Palate For any depending of the Church of Christ upon such Schooles
part with his Inheritance to King Ahab counting all Ahabs seeming reasonable offers most unreasonable as soliciting him to part with a Garden plot of Canaans land though his refusall cost him his very life What Land what Country now is Israels Parallel and Antitype but that holy mysticall Nation the Church of God peculiar and called out to him out of every Nation and Country 1 Pet. 2. 9. In which every true spirituall Naboth hath his spirituall inheritance which he dares not part with though it be to his King or Soveraigne and though such his refusall cost him this present life CHAP. CXII Peace DOubtlesse that Canaan Land was not a patterne for all Lands It was a none-such unparalleld and unmatchable Truth Many other considerations of the same nature I might annex but I picke here and there a flowre and passe on to a second Head concerning the people themselves wherein the state of the people shall appeare unmatchable but only by the true Church and Israel of God First the people of Israel were all the Seed or Off-spring of one man Abraham Psal. 105. 6. and so downward the Seed of Isaac and Iacob hence called the Israel of God that is wrastlers and prevailers with God distinguished into twelve Tribes all sprung out of Israels loynes But now few Nations of the World but are a mixed Seed the people of England especially the Britaines Picts Romanes Saxons Danes and Normans by a wonderfull providence of God being become one English people Only the Spirituall Israel and Seed of God the New-borne are but one Christ is the Seed Gal. 3. and they only that are Christs are only Abrahams Seed and Heires according to the promise This Spirituall Seed is the only Antitype of the former figurative and typicall A Seed which all Christians ought to propagate yea even the unmarried men and women who are not capable of naturall off spring for thus is this called the Seed of Christ who lived and died unmarried Isa. 59. 21. Secondly this people was selected and separated to the Lord his Covenant and Worship from all the people and Nations of the World beside to be his peculiar and onely people Levit. 20. 26. c. Therefore such as returned from Babyl●n 〈◊〉 Ierusalem they separated ●hemselves to eat the Passeover 〈◊〉 6 And in that solemne humiliation and confession before the Lord Nehem 9. the children of Israel separated themselves from all strangers This separation of theirs was so famous that it extended not only to Circumcision the Passeover and matters of Gods worship but even to temporall and civill things Thus Ezra 9 they separated or put away their very wives which they had taken of the strange Nations contrary to the Commandement of the Lord. But where hath the God of Heaven in the Gospel separated whole Nations or Kingdomes English Scotch Irish French Dutch c. as a peculiar people and Antitype of the people of Israel Yea where the least footing in all the Scripture for a Nationall Church after Christs comming Can any people in the world patterne this samplar but the New-borne Israel such as feare God in every Nation Acts 10. 35. commanded to come forth and separate from all uncleane things or persons 2 Cor. 6. and though not bound to put away strange wives as Israel did because of that peculiar respect upon them in Civill things yet to be holy or set apart to the Lord in all manner of civill conversation 1 Pet. 1. Only to marry in the Lord yea and to marry as if they married not 1 Cor 7. yea to hate wife and children father mother house and land yea and life it selfe for the Lord Iesus Luc. 14. Thirdly this Seed of Abraham thus separate from all people unto the Lord was wonderfully redeemed and brought from Aegypts bon●age through the Red Sea and the Wildernesse unto the Land of Canaan by many strange signes and wonderfull miracles wrought by the ou●stretched hand of the Lord famous and dreadfull and to be admired by all succeeding peoples and generations Deut. 4. 32 33 34. Aske now from one side of the Heaven unto the other whether there hath been such a thing as this c And we may aske againe from one side of the Heaven unto the other whether the Lord hath now so miraculously redeemed and brought unto Himselfe any Nation or people as he did this people of Israel Peace The English Scot●h Dutch c. are apt to make themselves the parallels as wonderfully come forth of Pope●y c. Truth 1. But first whole Nations are no Churches under the Gospel Secondly bring the Nations of Europe professing Protestanisme to the ballance of the Sanctuary and ponder well whether the body bulk the generall or one hundreth part of such peoples be truly turned to God from Popery Who knowes not how easie it is to turne and turne and turn againe whole Nations from one Religion to another Who knowes not that within the compasse of one poore span of 12 yeares revolution all England hath become from halfe Papist halfe Protestant to be absolute Protestants from absolute Protestants to absolute Papists from absolute Papists changing as fashions to absolute Protestants I will not say as some worthy witnesses of Christ have uttered that all England and Europe must againe submit their faire necks to the Popes yoake But this I say many Scriptures concerning the destruction of the Beast and the Whore looke that way And I adde they that feele the pulse of the people seriously must confesse that a victorious Sword and a Spanish Inquisition will soone make millions face about as they were in the Fore-Fathers times CHAP. CXIII Peace O That the Steersmen of the Nations might remember this Bee wise and kisse the Sonne lest he goe on in this His dreadfull anger and dash them in peeces here and eternally Truth I therefore thirdly adde That only such as are Abrahams Seed circumcised in Heart New-borne Israel or wrastlers with God are the Antitype of the former Israel these are only the holy Nation 1 Pet. 2. wonderfully redeemed from the Aegypt of this World Titus 2. 14. brought through the Red Sea of Baptisme 1 Cor. 10. through the wildernesse of afflictions and of the peoples Dent. 8. Ez●k 20. into the Kingdome of Heaven begun below even that Christian Land of Promise where flow the everflowing streames and Rivers of Spirituall milke and honey Fourthly All this people universally in typicall and ceremoniall respect were holy and cleane in this their separation and sequestration unto God Exod. 19. 5. Hence even in respect of their naturall birth in that Land they were an holy Seed and Ezr● makes it the matter of his great complaint Ezra 9. 12. The holy Seed have mingled themselves But where is now that Nation or Country upon the face of the Earth thus cleane and holy unto God and bound to so many ceremoniall cleansings
the power of Christ to censure sufficiently an offendour on whom yet they have executed the deepest censure in the world to wit cutting off from Christ shutting out of Heaven casting to the Divell which offendours crime reacheth not to hurt the good of the civill state but that she is forced to make complaint to the civill state and the Officers thereof for their helpe O let not this be tole in Gath nor heard in Ashkalon and O! how dimme must needs that eye be which is blood shot with that blo●dy and cruell Tenent of Persecution for cause of Conscience Peace But what should be meant by this passage viz. That they cannot give liberty to the Magistrate to punish without exception all excommunicate persons within so many months Truth It may be this hath reference to a Law made formerly in New England that if an excommunicate person repented not within as I have heard three months after sentence of excommunication then the Civill Magistrate might proceed with him These worthy men see cause to question this Law upon good reasons rendred though it appears not by their words that they wholly condemne it only they desire a longer time implying that after some longer time the Magistrate may proceed and indeed I see not but according to such principles if the Magistrate himselfe should be cast out he ought to be proceeded against by the Civill state and consequently deposed and punished as the Pope teacheth yea though happily he had not offended against either bodies or goods of any subject Thirdly from this true confession that the Magistrate ought not to punish for many sinnes above mentioned I observe how they crosse the plea which commonly they bring for the Magistrates punishing of false Doctrines Heretiques c. viz. Rom. 13. The Magistrate is to punish them that doe evill and when it is answered True evill against the Second Table which is there onely spoken of and against the Bodies and Goods of the Subject which are the proper object of the Civill Magistrate as they confesse It is replied why is not Idolatry sinne Heresie sinne Schisme and false Worship sinne Yet heere in this passage many evils many sins even of Parents against their Children Masters against their Servants Husbands against their Wives the Magistrate ought not to meddle with Fourthly I dare not assent to that assertion That even originall sinne remotely hurts the civill State T is true some doe as inclinations to murther theft whoredome slander disobedience to Parents and Magistrates but blindnes of minds hardnes of heart inclination to choose or worship this or that God this or that Christ beside the true these hurt not remotely the civill state as not concerning it but the spirituall Peace Let me in the last place remind you of their charge against the Magistrate and which will necessarily turne to my wrong and prejudice They say the Magistrate in hearing and prosecuting the complaints of children against their parents of servants against their masters of wives against their husbands without acquainting the Church first transgresseth the rule of Christ. Truth Sweet Peace they that pretend to be thy dearest friends will prove thy bitter enemies First I ask for one rule out of the Testament of the Lord Iesus to prove this deepe charge and accusation against the Civill Magistrate Secondly This is built upon a supposition of what rarely falls out in the World to wit that there must necessarily be a true Church of Christ in every lawfull State unto whom these complaints must goe whereas how many thousand Common-weales have been and are where the name of Christ hath not or not truly been founded Thirdly The Magistrates office according to their own grant properly respecting the bodies and goods of their Subjects and the whole body of the Common-weale being made up of Families as the members constituting that body I see not how according to the rule of Christ Rom. 13 the Magistrate may refuse to heare and helpe the just complaints of any such petitioners Children Wives and Servants against oppression c. Peace I have long observed that such as have been ready to ascribe to the Civill Magistrate and his Sword more then God hath ascribed have also been most ready to cut off the skirts and in case of his inclining to another conscience then their owne to spoile him of the robe of that due Authoritie with which it hath pleased God and the People to invest and cloath him But I shall now present you with the 13. Head whose Title is CHAP. CXXIX What power Magistrates have in publike Assemblies of Churches FIrst say they the Churches have power to assemble and continue such Assemblies for the performance of all Gods Ordinances without or against the consent of the Magistrate renuente Magistratu because Christians are commanded so to doe Matth. 28. 18. 19. 20. Also because an Angel from God commanded the Apostles so to doe Acts 5. 20 Likewise from the practice of the Apostles who were not rebellious or seditious yet they did so Act. 4. 18. 19. 20. Act. 5. 27 28. Further from the practice of the Primitive Church at Jerusalem who did meet preach pray minister Sacraments censures Act. 4. 23. renuente Magistratu Moreover from the exhortation to the Hebrewes 10. 25. not to forsake their Assemblies though it were in dangerous times and if they might doe this under professed Enemies then we may much more under Christian Magistrates else we were worse under Christian Magistrates then Heathen therefore Magistrates may not hinder them herein as Pharaoh did the people from sacrificing for Wrath will be upon the Realme and the King and his Sons Ez●● 7. 23. Secondly it hath been a usurpation of forraigne Countries and Magistrates to take upon them to determine times and places of Worship rather let the Churches be left herein to their inoffensive Libertie Thirdly concerning their power of Synod Assemblies First in corrupt times the Magistrate desirous to make Reformation of Religion may and should call those who are most fit in severall Churches to assemble together in a Synod to discusse and declare from the Word of God matters of Doctrine and Worship and to helpe forward the Reformation of the Churches God Thus did Iosiah Secondly in the reformed times he ought to give Libertie to the Elders of severall Churches to assemble themselves by their owne mutuall and voluntary agreement at convenient times as the meanes appointed by God whereby he may mediately reform matters amisse in Churches which immediately he cannot nor ought not to doe Thirdly Those meetings for this end we conceive may be of two sorts 1. Monthly of some of the Elders and Messengers of the Churches 2. Annuall of all the Messengers and Elders of the Churches First monthly of some First those members of Churches which are neerest together and so may most conveniently assemble together may by mutuall agreement once in a