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A95901 To his reverend and much respected good friend, Mr. John Goodwin: be these I pray presented. Vicars, John, 1579 or 80-1652.; Taylor, Daniel, ca. 1614-1655. 1645 (1645) Wing V331; Thomason E259_3; ESTC R212477 7,509 9

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TO HIS REVEREND AND MUCH Respected Good Friend Mr. JOHN GOODWJN Be these I pray presented REVEREND SIR HAving lately received from you by the hands of my loving Neighbour and Friend Mrs. Ducker a both undeserved and unexpected favour one of your last Books intituled Innocencie and Truth triumphing together I acknowledge it a just engagement of obliged gratitude and therefore accordingly I do here return you deserved and most humble thanks for the same by the same friendly hand And because worthy Sir I conceived and considered with my self that you sent it by way of love and desire to give me who am as I acknowledge a poor and unworthy Presbyterian satisfaction if it might be touching your Independent Church-way I having now perused it all over even à capite ad calcem and I hope with that pietie and impartialitie as my God hath enabled me which becomes a Christian and fellow servant to the same Lord Jesus Christ with you I therefore hope you will not so much pardon which I pray not as accept which I heartily desire with Christian Candor mine ingenuitie and plain dealing with you in now giving you an account briefly as I thought it most fit of what light or content and satisfaction I have received from it Truly Sir I having read your Epistle to the Reader found therein very full and fair promise of your ingenuous aym and intention in the subsequent discourse viz. that you projected four things therein Brevitie Perspicuitie Moderation and Satisfaction But having I say perused your Book truly Sir if I am not mistaken as I believe I am not you have come extream short of your promised project in every of the four branches thereof For first if I found you short I am sure I found you sharp and tart For Perspicuitie I assure you I found much cloudie obscuritie Veri similitudinem multam non ipsam veritatem satisfaction therefore none at all But especially in that of projected moderation and promised temperature in writing the great defect and foul fault so cried out upon by Independents against all Presbyterian Writers or Speakers in stead of moderation I found abundance of bitternesse and unsavourie jerkes and jeeres the light issues me thought rather of a youthfull green-head then the solid expressions of such a grave heart sprinkled almost over all your whole discourse which I must confesse much troubled and affected me with wonder to meet with after such a seeming promise of moderation Some few of very many whereof because I knew Dolosus versatur in generalibus J have here particularized with their pages where they are evidently and easily to be seen As first to omit your Via Sanguinea with all its most bitter and biting yea sorely wounding expositions of that term in your Theomachia c. pag. 13. you compare Mr. Prynn in his Reply to the two false witnesses who falsly accused our blessed Saviour And in the same Page you tell the Reader Here Mr. Prynn vapours in his Reply immediatly after in the same page how notably do you jeer and scoffe him about three Tabernacles And with what an elated spirit do you answer him page 16. line 4. together with a down-right jeer about a Nationall Church some 12 lines after You also grossely taxe him with errors Page 17. Sect. 21. And Page 18. and 19. you frequently jeer him and amongst those jeers you tell him that Acts 15. is onely Mr. Prynns Gospell what a bitter and unchristian censure lay you upon him and all Presbyterians Page 24. Sect. 26. towards the end of it And O how you jeer him with his quotations Page 37. towards the bottome as also Page 49. and Page 51. you slander him with want of Reason and Truth too and Page 52. you tell him his pen spits black reproches in the face of Independents You also accuse him Page 65. of much untruth and the same also again most fouly Page 84. Together with a Notable jeer exalting your selfe and vilifying Mr. Prynn which I have noted at large in your book page 85. Together with very many other such like expressions too tedious to be here recited And yet strange to consider you conclude them all with the conclusion of your book page 99. in a hortatorie way to Mr. Prynn in these words That he would put lesse Vineger and Gall into his inke and more Wooll and Cotten And in the Apostles words Ephes. 4. 31. That all bitternesse and evill speaking be put away as becomes brethren And now any impartiall person may judge whether you your self have followed this brotherly exhortation Nay whether contrariwise you have not with unbrotherly aspersions indeavored to besmear the face of that precious Gentleman most worthy ever to be honoured both by you all and us all Truly Sir you Independent Gentlemen have dealt with this most worthy servant of the Lord just as the people of Lystra did with the Apostle Paul whom at first they so honoured and admired as that they were ready to deifie him and make him a god but shortly after they furiously indeavoured to stone him to death So ye at the first in the time of Mr. Prynns first most elaborate and learned divine writings yea and for his most glorious and Saint-like sufferiugs O then how ye all with us most highly and that most justly too honoured him and brought him home from bauishment as it were in the triumphing Chariot of your love and praises But now since he hath piously and faithfully written against your Independent way and onely for this O how have you and almost all of your way indeavoured as much as in you is to stone to death his illustrious reputation by most unworthy and unchristian reviling and vilipending of him both in words and writings Even him I say who for his pietie humilitie incomparable constancie fortitude and magnanimitie in suffering for Gospell Truths was not inferiour to any of his most faithfull fellow-sufferers yea whose soundnesse and sinceritie whose profound learning and indefatigable labours in writing upon deepest points of Divinity and controverted Gospel Truths witnesse his Perpetuity of the estate of a regenerate man his Anti-Arminianisme Vnbisboping of Timothy and Titus his Histri-Mastix and many other his later most learned orthodox and precious peeces have made his never-dying name and fame most worthily renowned both in England and other parts of the world beyond the Seas And yet this noble Gentleman to be thus I say besmeared and bespattred with your unjust accusations onely I say again for writing the truth against Independent novelties O! it is most sad and bad to consider Truly Sir you must here give me leave to be yet more plain with you I professe in the sinceritie of my soul that I do most groundedly beleeve that had Mr. Prynn been such a Non-sense Consciencelesse irrationall false and frivolous writer as you and others of your way only have strugled but all in vain to make and demonstrate him by your lavish