given them by Deed shall be void and not due So that when either or both of them shall be married here to such as sincerely cleave to the Church of England then the payment to be made c. As for my Body I charge my Executor to write these Words upon my Grave-stone Hic jacet Corpus HERBERTI THORNDIKE Prebendarii hujus Ecclesiae Qui vivus veram Reformandae Ecclesiae Rationem ac Modum precibusque studiisque prosequebatur Tu Lector Requiem ei beatam in Christo Resurrectionem precare THE CONTENTS CHap. 1. Mr. A. Pulton Iesuit consider'd in his Certificates Page 1. Chap. 2. Mr. A. P. consider'd in an Artifice used by him in his TRUE and FULL ACCOUNT with a like Instance relating to Dr. Hammond p. 7. Chap. 3. Mr. P' s Reasonings and Authorities considered and refuted and first in Relation to his Charge against Luther p. 17. Chap. 4. Mr. P's Objections against the Rule of Faith shown to be weak and unconvincing p. 33. Chap. 5. Mr. P. consider'd with relation to what he hath said about the Lateran Council p. 58. Chap. 6. Mr. P. consider'd in relation to what he has said touching the Antiquity of Popery in England p. 61. Chap. 7. Mr. P. consider'd in his Accusations p. 67. Chap. 8. Mr. P. consider'd in his Triumphs p. 93. Chap. 9. Mr. P. consider'd in his Threatnings p. 96. The Conclusion p. 97. CHAP. I. Mr. Pulton consider'd in his Certificates THE Iesuit has usher'd in his Second Pamphlet with a pompous Company of Testimonials With Testimonies in Favour of A. P. A new stile in Certificates which ought to be written either without Fear Affection or Favour There was as little necessity for any of them as there is sincerity in some For I affirm'd from very good Evidence That several Persons enter'd with him but I repeated it in the Second Page of my Account that I did not say they were all of Mr. Pulton ' s bringing Nor did I affirm there was one Iesuit there besides himself For certainly all Orders are not swallow'd up in his how widely soever he may open for that purpose I do not dispute either the L. S. I's or the Provincial's Certificate but if others under his Obedience have the like Sincerity with Mr. Pulton they may have been there without saying they were so as well as Katharine Lamb might not at first be there yet say she was Well his false Quotations will not be swallow'd and now his Refuge is Certificates But they have likewise fail'd him And he that reads the following Testimonies and enquires after the Integrity of those who subscrib'd them and the Capacity they have been in of knowing the Truth and considers the little Reason they have had to expose themselves to the ill will of many if their love of Truth would have suffer'd them to be private Such a person I say for the buying of Truth will not be apt to go to Mr. Pulton to purchase it And when our Disputant lays his hand upon his heart and reflects in Christian manner upon this insincerity he will I hope makea moreopen acknowledgment for a publick Scandal than an Auricular Confession can amount to And let him henceforth forbear his Raillery about Katharine Boren left he put people in mind of Katharine Lamb. This Katharine Lamb for ought I know may be a vertuous and true Woman But as She is represented in Mr. Pulton's Certificate she is a very extraordinary person Certainly she must have some Relation to that Famous Dr. Lamb whom the Mobile believ'd to be a Conjurer For to be in a Room kept on purpose private by Mrs. R. till D. T. and Mr. Pulton should come in and neither to be seen by her or him or in her passage by any of the Family if it has nothing in it of one Black Art I 'm sure in the telling it it has something of another If she was there she must have come in by some unsuspected way such as the Chimney or the Key-hole And if there she remain'd she must have put her self into the shape of some such thing as a Table a Chair or a Candlestick This Long-Acre Miracle will not pass nor make many Conversions For the People understand that if Katharine Lamb did not certifie this there 's Forgery in it and if she did there is False Evidence Now this as our Representer pleases to speak of a Query is a Horned Beast of an Argument It is a curst Dilemma which hath long Horns and let him take heed that they do not push him But let us see what Mr. Pulton himself says to this matter for he is an Artist at mending a business by making more holes in it On Novemb. the 4 th he Publish'd his Remarks That Night the false Certificate of Katharina in Nubibus was publickly expos'd This came to his Ear and it was no doubt as welcome to him as the next days History On the Lord's day following in the Afternoon the better the day the worse the deed he closes his Sermon with this Iargon not deliver'd without a Concern in his Looks and Disorder in his Voice I was mistaken this Week in one thing of my last Paper which tho true yet I had it not from the person 's own hand tho it came as if it came from them It is about one of the Evidences or Testimonials which I shall clear by a Printed Paper to morrow and satisfie therein about it The thing I say is true but the Evidence not made by the Person to me tho it came as from their own hands But I shall give an account of it to morrow by a Printed Paper Now commend me to the Infallible man who was thus mistaken to the man who will be plain in nothing relating to me He is the man in the World who is good at a Conclusion He is that Wise man in my Lord Bacon's Essays who reserves his great business for a Postscript He is concern'd in a false way let him neither dance nor dance in a Net for he is seen through his Cover and he shews his halting as often as he stirs As to the Famous Paper he promis'd to publish the very next day with such Solemnity no Person that I can hear of has ever yet beheld it tho inquiry after it has not been wanting And now I have greater Compassion than ever for deluded I. S. for he hapned upon a man who if he is a Lover of Truth has a very notable Art in concealing his Affection IMPARTIAL CERTIFICATES relating to the CONFERENCE betwixt Mr. A.P. and D.T. WE Inhabitants of the Parish of St. Martin in the Fields in the County of Middlesex and others whose Names are subscribed Do hereby certifie That Robert Uppington of Long-Acre in the said Parish Brasier is a Person of Honesty and Integrity and during his abode there has lived peaceably orderly and in good Esteem amongst his Neighbours Witness Our Hands the 11
Mr. Pulton Consider'd Imprimatur Liber cui titulus Mr. Pulton Consider'd in his Sincerity Reasonings Authorities c. November 25. 1687. H. Maurice Reverendissimo in Christo P. D. Wilhelmo Archiepiscopo Cant. à Sacris Mr. Pulton Consider'd In his Sincerity Reasonings Authorities OR A JUST ANSWER To what HE hath hitherto published in His TRUE ACCOUNT His TRUE and FULL ACCOUNT of a Conference c. His REMARKS and in them his pretended Confutation of what he calls D. T 's Rule of Faith. By the said THO. TENISON D.D. LONDON Printed for Richard Chiswell at the Rose and Crown in St. Paul's Church-Yard M DC LXXXVII TO THE PARISHIONERS OF St. MARTINS in the Fields AND St. IAMES's Westminster My most Worthy Friends THE Iesuit who occasioned my first application to you in this way has by his Letter mov'd me to give you this Second trouble Perhaps it may be the last in this kind for I do not envy him the Honour of throwing the first and the second and the third handful of Dirt. I am unawares ensnared into the most disagreeable Employment of defending and proving But this I have to offer in just Excuse That I went in the simplicity of a Christian as to a Private Discourse which the Arts of others have improv'd into a Publick Brawl I will not so much suspect your Sagacity as to imagine you do not guess at the reason why my self and much better men are on this manner treated why that Reverend Person the Dean of St. Paul's is here call'd most disingenuous and elsewhere egregiously slander'd as one who has exchanged Christianity for Paganism Why the Reverend Dean of Canterbury has been in terms revil'd as a Writer void of Modesty Charity Sincerity and good Manners Why the Reverend Mr. Wake has been just now accused of Calumnies Unsincerities willful Mistakes and Plain Contradictions You can well understand that this Work is laid before us for the hindering of better and that they say this Ill of us not because we are such but because we are not theirs Mr. Pulton in his Letter to you is unwilling to believe that any Romanists spread false stories of me yet I have spoken with great numbers of you who have heard them from the mouths of the less generous of them in publick places In due time they may call in question that sense too He tells you further of Letters sent into the North and West of England in which He and his Brethren were misreported If such Papers were sent I did no more either by direct or indirect Order occasion the writing of them than I have subscribed Pope Pius's Creed This matter had been more probably laid if he had mentioned the other Points of the Compass and told of Letters sent into those parts of England where I have liv'd For I imagine he does not take NORFOLK for a Northern County He speaks here of Bitterness and Scurrility and tells the World elsewhere he has not gall enough for me tho he seems at present troubled with the over-flowing of it And yet the provocation was only this great Truth That his Patient I. S. grew worse under his hands I. S. is now under better I voluntarily own'd what I then thought less decent and have accounted for it and I have been by my Friends reprov'd for making Apologies in my Epistle Dedicatory for Warmnesses which they say they cannot find in the Book The Iesuit would fix that Indignation which I speak of to you upon Persons and Orders when in express words I make the Objects of it to be Hypocrisie and Injustice And perceiving in him too great a Degree of those Evils my resentment such as it was was reasonable And for my Memory it offer'd me a wholesom Admonition when I met with a second Gubbard who attempted to take away I do not say the Fleeces but those things which have ever been much dearer to me the Souls of my Sheep This he and his Friend who in part repeats him and then enlarges has constru'd as a Grudge and a Prejudice of thirty years standing and an impotence in retaining a Childish impression for so many years But 't is no more Prejudice and Childishness than for one who in his Youth has read the History of Naboth's Vineyard and hates the Encroachment to think of it a-fresh when he sees a man invading his own For the future seeing I now know him better than at first I did and have found him instead of a serious Schollar a man of Comical and Jocular Humour in misrepresenting and exposing I shall do Justice upon him by that which I hope is no unbecoming Negligence He goes on but steps into a great Mistake by saying I pretend to prove that Mr. Gubbard was a Priest by his favour with the Committee For besides that I there pretend not to such a Proof otherwise than the Circumstances of the Relation prove it I have said That the Committee who put him in as a Protestant Dissenter put him out when they discover'd him to be a Roman The Grounds upon which they went may in time be published But he tells you he might have preached up Purgatory which by the way was not the openest Point he preached without being a Romanist And in one sense I allow it for Bellarmine argues for a Purgatory from the Poet Virgil but it was not certainly that Purgatory out of which men are relieved by Masses And such a Purgatory notwithstanding Mr. P's Suggestion Mr. Thorndike could not hold having forbidden his Nieces to marry with any who should go to Mass. Nor did he in Mr. Pulton's way desire an Ora pro Animâ to be engraved on his Tomb. For he imitated some Christians about the Fourth Age who wish'd Rest to none but those who as they thought already enjoy'd it And even this Wish of theirs if it had Charity it had also in my Opinion weakness in it That which follows concerns the suffering of his Family in the Evil Times from the Honour of which I desire not to detract It seems by his Story that the Spirit of persecution has not confin'd it self to the Established Church which so far as I can understand the Temper of it had rather suffer injuries than do them That you may continue in the safe bosom of this Apostolical Church is and shall be my most importunate Address to Almighty God in your behalf as being My most Worthy Friends Your most Obliged Thankful and Faithful Pastor and Servant THO. TENISON An Extract out of the Last Will of the Reverend Mr. HERBERT THORNDIKE sign'd c. Iuly 3. 1672. and prov'd the same year and month But my Will is That if my said Pieces or either of them shall return to new-New-England after my Decease or shall marry with any that goes to Mass or any of the New Licens'd Conventicles then whatsoever is given them by this my Will exceeding the 400. l. which I have absolutely
th day of November 1687. Richard Rider Edward Salisbury William Cleer Christopher Cock William Thompson Robert Wood Iohn Roydhous Benjamin Thody Novemb. 4 th 1687. WHereas in a Book this day published by Mr. Pulton School-Master in the Savoy there is this following Certificate inserted viz. Being in the Chamber where the Conference was held I saw Mr. Pulton come up with only one Gentleman in his Company and a third person who followed them Witness my Hand Cath. Lamb. Now this is to Certifie That I was in my own Chamber being the place where the Conference was held when Mr. Pulton came up with his Train following him who shall be named when there is occasion And that no Woman or any other Person besides Dr. Tenison and my self was there at that time Witness my Hand the 4 th of November 1687. Susanna Robinson WE living in the same House and seeing what persons came in Do certifie That besides Dr. Tenison no Person went into Mrs. Robinson's Chamber till Mr. Pulton entered with his Company Witness our Hands Anna Uppington Sarah Wood. I Do certifie That during the time of the Conference several Gentlemen came to the Door and importuned me to let them in telling me Mr. Pulton had appointed them to meet him there at Three of the Clock Witness my Hand A true Copy Sarah Wood. I Do in Relation to the Testimony of the L. S. I. Certifie That Three Persons came to my House at the Conference and pressed to come in and one of them asking me if I did not know him and I answering I did not said he belonged to the L. S. I. and came from thence And that it was never suggested that one of them was the L. S. I. Priest for then it would not have been said a Person supposed to be a Priest by reason the L. S. I. Priest is known to the Neighbourhood and I believe having never heard the contrary that he has been civilly used by them Witness my Hand the 11 th Day of November 1687. Robert Uppington I Do Certifie That I have been to acquaint the L. S. I. of the persons coming to my House and one of them saying he belonged to her But she being with Company I told the same to some of her Servants Witness my Hand the 11 th Day of November 1687. Anna Uppington CHAP. II. An Artifice in Mr. Pulton's Second Narrative detected together with an Instance of the like Artifice practis'd in relation to Dr. Hammond CUrsory Notes have already been made both upon the Iesuit's True and his True and Full Account And I do not yet see any great Reason given by him for the blotting out of a single line Something hovvever may be added seeing he has been pleas'd to make both Additions and Alterations He has added an Advertisement and a Preface and in both of them he is a pleasant man. In his Advertisement he excuses his false English by his having been Eighteen Years out of England And yet he can write two English Books in a few Weeks and in one of them use three several Stiles I do not enquire whereabouts he has liv'd one would think by his Narratives and Certificates that he has liv'd among the Cretians But seeing he speaks English as readily as any man it may reasonably be demanded how in his Travels a man of his Profession retains the Pronunciation and loses the Grammar of his Native Language Now perceiving that the Printers are become Criticks in the English Tongue he sends me a Challenge to dispute with him in Latin. Latin it seems is so belov'd a Language that he chuses to have both Prayers and Conferences in that Tongue for the Edification of the People for certainly the Learned have no need of our assistance I fear we may rather become their sport After this our Champion advanceth with his Preface and there he imitates the ruggider Duellists who without any Embraces make fierce passes at one another He accuses me of Mistakes and Misrepresentations and want of Sincerity not thinking of his own guilt whilst he traduces his Neighbour Nay I am become so potent in these Arts that I have confounded the whole matter and truly inverted the whole Order of the Conference I have done a wondrous thing in representing that as Confusion which was so By whose means the unbyass'd can tell But what if in the little method that was us'd Mr. P. himself should be the man who has inverted the Order Why then he wants either Memory or Sincerity Now after having spoken of the Words of St. Ambrose he introduces the story of Luther and the Courtezans This was mention'd at the beginning and St. Ambrose towards the end And if the setting of the last first and the first last be Order Mr. P. is a man of Method and no Inverter But perhaps it was in him a Point of Good Manners to set St. Ambrose before Luther and let it go so Of this true Relation he says that D. T. recounted he knows not what Story of some Priest at Rome And yet the Story is told as plainly as a Story can be told and it needs no Interpreter He is a singular man He will neither tell a thing plainly himself nor understand another that does so He goes on and informs the World for it is informing That I was offering at another long passage in Luther ' s Works and yet it was a Story out of the Acts of his beloved Second Synod of Nice as set forth by the Iesuites Labbe and Cossart If the Iesuites Collection of Councils and Popes Epistles and Decrees be Luther's Works the Lutherans and Romans are in a marvellous accommodation which none of them know of This is a Discovery worthy the invention of the invisible Catharine But why is my I know not what Story of a Priest so very idle He gives a false Account of Luther's leaving the Mass and I requite him with a true one He from Luther's bitter Adversaries and I from Luther himself The Protestants thought it not at all amiss that I should give him an Allen for his Duncomb But to come to his Artifice He sends me his Second Narrative in Writing He expects my Notes upon it He desires in order to his easier finding of my Objections that I will observe the Numbers of his Paragraphs I do this little Service for him I send him my Account and Notes in Print on Wednesday My Man carries a Book to him before he brings one either into my own House or Parishes He reads these words in it Observe here the Fidelity either of Mr. P' s Memory or his Conscience He says the Dr. told a Story of some Priest at Rome who having pronounced the Words of Consecration was heard to say aloud That he believed not as the Roman Church obliged Whereas the Story as before repeated was about the Courtezans over-hearing the Priest say Bread thou art and Bread thou shalt be c. Notwithstanding
me of Roman Miracles again This was certainly the happiest stroke of a Launce we shall ever find mentioned in History if his Hand was not that of a Lady his Eyes at least those of an Eagle and his Heart of a Lyon. I wonder this Chirurgion is not Canonized by the pretended Reformers for thus totally routing the Romish Church What need then of tumbling over Concordances and beating mens Brains to search out misapplied Texts of Scripture and bring them in by the Head and Shoulders against Popery an instance whereof we have in that Learned Catechism lately cry'd about the Streets and to give it the greater Credit father'd on our Doctor when this one story of the Chirurgion with the help of Doctor T 's Application would every whit as well do the feat and be as much to the purpose As you may see by this Specimen Master Were there ever any Miracles wrought in the Roman Church these Twelve hundred years Scholar No for there was a Chirurgion c. Master Must we then believe that all those recounted by St. Austin St. Gregory St. Bernard Venerable Beda and Infinite others were so many Impostures Scholar Yes for there was a Chirurgion c. Can any man be so unreasonable as to desire a more irrefragable Proof of the Roman Churches Errors Our Accuser is very smart upon me and I must mind him when he says smart things or else he will take it for a Neglect He is here as grave as he was in his Pulpit when he talked of an Arian Cobler capping of Texts with a Protestant Doctor Here 's smartness again Capping of Texts and capping of Shoes he is mightily improv'd in the space of a Month for a man that has been Eighteen years out of England for I suppose they never quibble nor speak nor write nor read any English in the English Seminaries abroad But to return to the story if he by mis-telling it and making it a Tale and I by telling it as it is in the Book do not justify my self and shew his Talent in Repetition I am in Tale-telling a most fallible man. The story is neither more nor less than this in the Book from whence I repeat it These Gentlemen are so imprudent as to bring to light such scandalous Histories as rejoice Hereticks For example can any thing be more terrible than what they have caused to be printed against Indulgences and Relicks with that Bull of Innocent the XI which condemns some supposed Relicks without design of injuring those that are real Amongst others this is one of the Stories they have published in the year 1668 Pope Alexander the VII sent into France three Chests of Relicks to be put into the Hospital Church these Three Chests were bound up with Red silk Cords and sealed with the Seal of Cardinal Ginetti Commissary for the Relicks and with the Seal of the Popes Sacristain These Relicks were accompanied with a Bull which said they might with all surety be exposed to the Veneration of the people they had already caused Magnificent Bills to be fixed in every Quarter of the City to draw the people to this Devotion The Bishops of Bayeux and Cahors Father Don Cosme Father Crasset and the Abbot Fromentieres were to Preach during the Octave It was however order'd they should be search'd In the third Chest was found a Head which at first appear'd to be a real one It had this Inscription The Head of St. Fortunatus In searching it there was perceived above the ear a piece of Painted Cloth. The Physician whose name was M. de S. Germain took an Iron Instrument and scraped it and thrust it in and found it was a Paist-board Head. They put a lighted Candle into the Head but the light did not appear through at last they cast the Head into hot water which defaced the Paint and the Paist-board fell in pieces M. de St. Germain made his Verbal Process thereupon But by a Letter of Cachet he was forbidden to show it upon pain of being sent the same moment to the Bastille Is not it insupportable that Hereticks must learn such like Stories from Catholicks Now I appeal to men of common sense whether this was represented as it ought to be either by a Woman of so raw a Conscience as to doubt her Salvation in our Church or by a Iesuit who speaks so frequently of the day of Iudgment and has cited me to appear at that day for denying the modern Real Presence Here let the Misrepresenter call for his Chirurgion for the healing this breach he has made in his sincerity But A. P. goes on and with great Condescension grants that the Doctor added another Story to fix this wavering mind of the Querist in an Aversion to the Roman Church and it was of a person of his own Acquaintance who had been at Rome where he had known those who for six-pence a Month obtained a dispensation to live at discretion and violate the Commands of God and the Church at pleasure He is again a very Fidentinus in repeating Instead of this it was said that Pope Leo in Luther's time set out a Book of Rules in which the greatest Villanies even Incest with nearest Relations was rated at a few pence and that I had this Book of Rates of the Edition of Rome I do believe I added that I had had an acquaintance there who if the Priest was but sure of his Six-pence was never importun'd by him to see Mass. Now if a Iulio be Six-pence farthing then I am quite lost with him for a Computer For this in his very charitable opinion I am commenc'd Doctor at Salamanca and become a very Titus in Narrative Now tho mine is the History and his ' the Fable yet upon it he gives me this friendly advice that I addict not my self much for the future to this way of Tale-telling For once however I will decline his advice and the rather because he does not use it himself And I will tell him a Tale out of a Jesuit's School and it shall be about his beloved Article of Transubstantiation Bellarmin the fam'd Cardinal and Learned Jesuit wrote a Catechism for Youth He pretends in it to lay the Grounds of Religion You will perceive by the Story that his Grounds and mine do very much differ if I be the Author as I never said I was of the Catechism cry'd about in my Name in the Streets He means if a man can guess at his meaning the Catechism of the Church of England with Scripture Proofs Scripture Proofs are good Grounds whomsoever they offend but they will not always serve the Jesuits turn Therefore he has found out an easier way and a pleasanter way for Children for Story-telling shall settle them in the Faith. Thus then we find it in the Edition of Cologn tho in the English Editions they are as sparing of putting it in as they are of